The Big Picture: MovieBob's 2011 Top Ten

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SteelStallion:

No, I didn't read your post. No, I'm not going to. I thought the movie was bad, and you're for some reason butt hurt that I don't like it. Get over it. I didn't like the movie, opinions differ. I really don't see what you were hoping to achieve with that post, after I clearly indicated that I don't want to start a meaningless argument.

I am not butthurt that you didn't like the movie because personally I didn't find it amazing either, it had created good characters, only not to have most of them develop enough in the short running time. My main gripe with your post is that your reasons for hating it are for the most part utter crap under close scrutiny(as previously stated "abysmal acting" is a horribly simplistic criticism of any film). The sense of humour wasn't meant as an insult, some people don't have the capacity to recognise comedy as you have now demonstrated. If you and your friend had been paying attention to the film you would have realised the kids did not have water (if you get my meaning) in their water gun and the comedy wasn't from the ridiculousness of two 9 year olds thinking they could take on an alien larger than themselves with just a water gun. If you don't understand how that could be construed as funny, then you obviously have a serious lack of humour.

+1 for Attack the Block should not have been in the top 10.

Maybe it is a US, UK thing. For a US audience it probably seems interesting in a isn't stuff from the UK quaint.

For people in the UK, they felt no empathy with the kids as they just seemed like the usual gangster wannabe, delinquent, dirt bangs that hang around most UK cities. The same types who would have been out looting over the summer. I for one was cheering for the aliens. Even Nick Frost in an amusing all leather shell suit could not save this rubbish.

As far as their acting goes, it must have been good enough for me to hate them.

Maybe for most in the UK, we are biased. It is a bit like asking if a rape victim enjoyed a movie where the lead has a history of raping people. It's just to close to home....

Planet of the Apes was ludicrous nonsense; the humans had all been replaced with their retarded horror movie counterparts meaning common sense was in short-supply, leading to a very cliché and contrived film.

And Drive? More like Drivel. I have never seen a more awkward romance then the one between Gosling and Mulligan. Apparently her character is magically attracted to the autistic behaviour of Gosling, while the film featured a complete lack of driving, with short-lived ultra violent action scenes. It watches like a mash-up of Hostel, Rainman and Notting Hill if Garth Marenghi was at the helm. The sound track was good, but the film is nothing more than a pretentious piece of shit and a waste of time.

Certainly wouldn't have put Cap America ahead of X-men but rest of the list was decent.

TownTattle:

SteelStallion:

No, I didn't read your post. No, I'm not going to. I thought the movie was bad, and you're for some reason butt hurt that I don't like it. Get over it. I didn't like the movie, opinions differ. I really don't see what you were hoping to achieve with that post, after I clearly indicated that I don't want to start a meaningless argument.

I am not butthurt that you didn't like the movie because personally I didn't find it amazing either, it had created good characters, only not to have most of them develop enough in the short running time. My main gripe with your post is that your reasons for hating it are for the most part utter crap under close scrutiny(as previously stated "abysmal acting" is a horribly simplistic criticism of any film). The sense of humour wasn't meant as an insult, some people don't have the capacity to recognise comedy as you have now demonstrated. If you and your friend had been paying attention to the film you would have realised the kids did not have water (if you get my meaning) in their water gun and the comedy wasn't from the ridiculousness of two 9 year olds thinking they could take on an alien larger than themselves with just a water gun. If you don't understand how that could be construed as funny, then you obviously have a serious lack of humour.

I was already reluctant to elaborate on why I hate the movie, and what, you expected some kind of intricate breakdown of the movie and a meaningful critique? Of course it's a crude criticism, I'm not writing a fucking blog post review for you to read.

No, I do not find kids thinking they can take on an alien with a water gun funny. At all.

No, it's not called a "serious lack of humour", you're just ignorant and think the world revolves around your opinion. Different people find different things funny. The sooner you realize that sense of humor is subjective, the sooner you'll stop humiliating yourself post after post.

Look at all the trolls trying to be cool by simply hating for the sake of hating!

OT: I am surprised Super 8 isn't anywhere on this list. That was a rather decent movie!

SteelStallion:

I was already reluctant to elaborate on why I hate the movie, and what, you expected some kind of intricate breakdown of the movie and a meaningful critique? Of course it's a crude criticism, I'm not writing a fucking blog post review for you to read.

No, I do not find kids thinking they can take on an alien with a water gun funny. At all.

No, it's not called a "serious lack of humour", you're just ignorant and think the world revolves around your opinion. Different people find different things funny. The sooner you realize that sense of humor is subjective, the sooner you'll stop humiliating yourself post after post.

crude criticism= bad criticism= bad opinion based on nothing. Care to elaborate on why you didn't find it funny? Also, pulling the subjectivity card means nothing.

The tree of life... juck. Please don't look at me and think "he just didn't understand" because I understood that movie 45 minutes before it was over and in between all those lovely boring shots of space, dinosaurs, algae and other assorted nonsense that was placed in it.

Its a movie for people who think movies are this higher form of artistic expression. It doesn't care that there is an actual human being watching this snooze fest going (opera/symphonic music played on the background to some slow motion image of whats assumed to be the birth of a star?! preteeeeeeentious to nth degree).

Boy did I hate that movie. I was pissed mostly because you know what? the hole thing of it being a portrait of how we tend to remember our childhood and how its more about a man reflecting on the past that up to that moment he had neglected and the hole thing getting mixed with the emotions from the parents and all that happens... brilliant. The rest, art-house-movie porn.

Tree of Life I would´ve thrown out and not because I don´t like hyper artistic experiences like that. It just didn´t click at all with me. I would´ve probably switched it with Melancholia. Now that´s one visually stunning end of the world.

Glad to see Midnight In Paris got some love though. I loved that movie. Funny, smart and not one bit of the usual overdramatic crap you see in other movies of its kind.

2011 has proved to be an interesting year in film, or at least the year-end run down has. I can't remember a year in recent history when film critics' top pick lists have look so dissimilar, and here I'm talking everyone from the old guard (Roger Ebert) to the hip nerds (such as the AV Club, wherein all the critics contributing to the final list had very different ballots). Tree of Life is about the only film I see appearing on most lists, but it certainly isn't always at the top.

I don't think this is a bad thing - it seems we actually had a nice assortment of films actually make it to screens this year, even if you had to hunt down a few of them in art-house theatres. It's kind of comforting in a year when The Smurfs happened... [ugh]

It's also intriguing in that we've had no absolute critical darlings - for every stellar review of Martha Marcy May Marlene, Midnight in Paris, or even Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy there has been a strong opponent who thoroughly disliked the film. Has made for interesting discussions, and may actually make awards season watch-a-ble (although I'm not counting on it)...

I'd love to know if Bob had the chance to see any non-fiction films. It was another great year for documentaries with Tabloid, Project Nim, and The Arbor just to name some of my top picks.

This is a joke, right?
Two utterly pretentious arthouse flicks (Woody Allen and Tree), two forgettable superhero movies (Captain -Propaganda and X-bland), Chavs vs Aliens... Okay while I've not seen Super or the action chick movie, but the only movie in this list that I thought was any good was Drive, and it's nowhere near my personal top 10 for 2010.

Plus I don't see any of the movies Bob actually seemed to like in his review in this list. If it is not a joke, Bob's tastes are even weirder than so far has come clear from his Game Overthinker/Moviebob/blog.

I'd actually be curious to see where Bob but Sucker Punch on the list; like a general area. Did it just miss off the list or in the 25-30 range etc. I only say this because I saw a run down on a website somewhere the other day of the best and worst films of 2011 and Sucker Punch got number one worst. This made me want to reach through the screen and strangle the writer of the list. I know it's subjective and all but I don't get why it's the subject of so much hate. I can understand the scepticism of people who haven't watched it, but if you're actually awake through the film, you'd realise there's a bit more to it than coquettishly dressed teenagers killing baby dragons for the lulz (also enough with that complaint, it's not a real fucking dragon, get over it).

That Super movie sounds very Kick Ass

did bob even watch Bunraku?

I don't understand why people like Captain America so much. The origin was good, but the rest felt rushed and disorienting. The Red Skull was a boring villain and the Captain was unlikeable. Even in comic book land I can't believe that a shrimpy little guy who constantly got his ass kicked isn't at least a little bitter.

As for Bob's opinions I always remember that this is a guy who's watched way to many movies. His and anyone else who watches to many movies overrate something fresh or different even if its bad and hate on things that seem formulaic because even if its actually good.

I thought Joe Johnston's the Rocketeer was a superior film and hero story than Captain America in just about every single way. Captain America fell apart right at the train sequence, and the rest of the film just felt like a jumbled mess.

Have you seen "A separation?"

It will become a reference in Cinema in my opinion, and for Americans, in Foreign Cinema.

Glad to see X-Man in 3rd place. I loved it, way better than the previous ones. I was never Wolverine fan, so that added to the reasons why I loved this one so much.

Looking for your top games.

Duffeknol:
Bob, I think you're a great reviewer and I value your opinions... on anything BUT superhero movies. Seriously. You are so incredibly biased towards them it's actually starting to bug me. X-Men First Class was one of the worst movies I've ever seen and Captain America was 100% forgettable. I know there's opinion and all that, but these movies should be in no one's top 10.

You're more than entitled to your opinion, and I'm sure I'm not the first person to call you on this, so I'm sorry in advance if I say something that upsets you, but I take some issue with you saying that Movie Bob is biased towards superhero movies.

Green Lantern, X-Men 3, Origins: Wolverine, Steel, both Fantastic Four films, The Spirit, Jonah Hex*, Daredevil, Batman and Robin, and while I don't think he's ever said it, I'm gonna put money on Ghost Rider.

These are all superhero movies that Movie Bob has admitted to not liking. It's clearly not a bias or else he would be like "Welp, it's a superhero movie. I like it."

I admit that MovieBob can sometimes be a bit strong in both his positive and his negative opinions (for example, I didn't like the movies at all, but he mentions his dislike for the Transformers movies way too often) but I don't think it's really fair to say he's biased towards a specific subset of films.

*Not sure if Jonah Hex really counts as a superhero or not.

Hmm never heard of super before but its got ellen page and she a psychopath? color me interested.

As far as tree of life the older people who are the main lifeblood of the theater i work at largely walked out of that movie saying it was boring and the parts i looked at made it look like its a movie made by a guy who wanted that feather from the forest gump movie to have it own feature length film.

SteelStallion:

TownTattle:

SteelStallion:

No, I didn't read your post. No, I'm not going to. I thought the movie was bad, and you're for some reason butt hurt that I don't like it. Get over it. I didn't like the movie, opinions differ. I really don't see what you were hoping to achieve with that post, after I clearly indicated that I don't want to start a meaningless argument.

I am not butthurt that you didn't like the movie because personally I didn't find it amazing either, it had created good characters, only not to have most of them develop enough in the short running time. My main gripe with your post is that your reasons for hating it are for the most part utter crap under close scrutiny(as previously stated "abysmal acting" is a horribly simplistic criticism of any film). The sense of humour wasn't meant as an insult, some people don't have the capacity to recognise comedy as you have now demonstrated. If you and your friend had been paying attention to the film you would have realised the kids did not have water (if you get my meaning) in their water gun and the comedy wasn't from the ridiculousness of two 9 year olds thinking they could take on an alien larger than themselves with just a water gun. If you don't understand how that could be construed as funny, then you obviously have a serious lack of humour.

I was already reluctant to elaborate on why I hate the movie, and what, you expected some kind of intricate breakdown of the movie and a meaningful critique? Of course it's a crude criticism, I'm not writing a fucking blog post review for you to read.

No, I do not find kids thinking they can take on an alien with a water gun funny. At all.

No, it's not called a "serious lack of humour", you're just ignorant and think the world revolves around your opinion. Different people find different things funny. The sooner you realize that sense of humor is subjective, the sooner you'll stop humiliating yourself post after post.

It's the difference between giving an image of yourself as a Jerry Springer audience member and a person with conversational skills that can handle a mature conversation. Sure, you've got your right to be that way, but be prepared to be called out on it, especially on an internet forum which is built for argumentation and conversing.

wait, no Sucker Punch on top 10? Did you forget the earlier release of the year, Moviebob? ;)

Four movies added to my watch list. Between them, games, mangas and real life I have the ominous feeling that I will die before catching them all...

I don't watch a ton of movies but did wind up seeing Captain America thanks to a free PPV voucher with my father this year. He was interested being big into war movies himself and liking Tommy Lee Jones and I like action movies of all types. But we were both just BORED and wound up resorting to making fun of everything partway through else we would have turned it off. Everything in the flick was a cliche and stereotype, and I get it, I understand that's the origin, and it uses all those tired formulas because they might very well have invented many of them 70-80 years ago. But even so that doesn't make it a good movie just because it follows its own source material so well. If a story is dated and tired on paper, it'll be dated and tired in film also. Hopefully the character at least will be far more interesting in the Avengers.

Your choices were all great Bob. I admired the fact you included Rise of the Apes- that movie was so unbelievable that it should be #1 (least to me, it's almost my all time favorite movie now.) Anyhow I couldn't help but notice that you picked more then 4 or so Superhero movies. I admit they were fantastic (especially X-men: First class, I loved it.. regardless of who says it's the worst.)

However, it seems to be a little biased. I thought you would include other movies, along with movies I haven't considered watching before. You even picked Captain America as a top movie and personally it was an okay movie. Thor probably deserved the spot more but that's just me. Anyhow good list overall!

Tree of Life... Well, I hadn't been taking Bob's "Word for it" on movies for a long time, but talk about the last nail in the coffin. It's a big budget film school project with great camera work. Pure pretension with absolutely no meaning with it except what you've convinced yourself should be there, and the absolutely repulsive human beings that the nameless main characters are. But it's a Malick movie and film snobs eat his shit up.

Spoilers: The movie Bob is looking forward to this year is The Avengers.

Anyway, yeah, pretty good list. A few deserving films were on there (Drive was seriously amazing and Rise of the Planet of the Apes really surprised me with how damn good it was), some other films I haven't seen yet but want to made the list.

My only qualm is: I really liked Captain America too, but number 2? Ahead of fucking X-Men: First Class? Seriously? It's good, but it's not THAT fucking good.

Honestly all I can say about the tree of life is "bleeeeeeeeeeeegh...." People were going on and on about that damn film being a master piece and when I finally got to see it I was treated to a film that was so pretentious and boring that I showed admiral restraint by not waling out ofter the first 20 minutes and punching the nearest old person.

HAHAHAHAHAHA, Hannah! Are you serious?! That was the dumbest movie I've seen all year. If anything the movie was more of a comedy movie instead of an action movie. I mean when one of the movie's main antagonists is goldmember you can't take it very seriously

I don't question that Tree of Life may be an Experience Movie (tm), but I'm scratching my head at the comparison to 2001, a movie for which I find myself most likely to experience a nap.

Clarke is my favorite of the Golden Age science fiction authors, and Kubrick's talent is beyond dispute, but this movie had either the most extensive use of zero-dialogue, figure-out-what's-happening-your-damn-self silent scenes, or made the most pretentious use of them, therefore making them FEEL ubiquitous. The one place where it really REALLY worked was the pod bay scene with Dave and Frank, where the silence is cut out to hammer home the point that Hal is reading their lips. The camera cuts back and forth between their mouths and that ominous unblinking red eye and you just thought to yourself, HE KNOWS... Anyway, I thought Clockwork Orange and Full Metal Jacket were superior entries in the Kubrick lexicon.

For me, the genuine Experience Movie was Fantasia (and by extension, F2000).

Seriously Bob, The Artist didn't make the list? Sigh... good pick for top film though, took a couple watches but it sure was an experience.

Atticus113:
Seriously Bob, The Artist didn't make the list? Sigh... good pick for top film though, took a couple watches but it sure was an experience.

I don't think he actually saw "The Artist." I've been struggling to see it myself actually.

OT: Anyway, interesting list. Love the fact that you have four of my favorite movies of the year on the list (Drive, Attack the Block, Midnight in Paris, Tree of Life). I'm certainly in the majority of those who thought "Captain America" and "X-Men First Class" weren't #2 and #3 material, but I wasn't surprised you put them on the list anyway. Kind of surprised how high Tree of Life got on your list though. As much as I like the film (#7 on my favorites of the year), it's ending is total crap IMO. I mean the rest of the film is breathtaking, intelligent and surprisingly ambiguous. Then the last 25 minutes take the ambiguity and throw it out the window.

It certainly wasn't enough to ruin the entirety of the movie, but I was ready to call it the best film of the year until the ending.

MovieBob, I agreed with this list mostly until Tree of Life. That was the worst movie I have ever seen. Twilight 4 was better. Green Lantern was better. Transformers 3 was better. Those were all movies, and even if they were done badly, they at least got the general idea right.

I don't believe you for a second that you actually liked that movie. I don't believe anybody who claims to like that film. Maybe you dozed off halfway through and saw a different movie, it isn't hard to fall asleep during a movie so intolerably boring. Terrence Malick is a fraud, he made a fake-movie, and people bought it hook, line, and sinker.

TownTattle:

SteelStallion:

I was already reluctant to elaborate on why I hate the movie, and what, you expected some kind of intricate breakdown of the movie and a meaningful critique? Of course it's a crude criticism, I'm not writing a fucking blog post review for you to read.

No, I do not find kids thinking they can take on an alien with a water gun funny. At all.

No, it's not called a "serious lack of humour", you're just ignorant and think the world revolves around your opinion. Different people find different things funny. The sooner you realize that sense of humor is subjective, the sooner you'll stop humiliating yourself post after post.

crude criticism= bad criticism= bad opinion based on nothing. Care to elaborate on why you didn't find it funny? Also, pulling the subjectivity card means nothing.

No, bad criticism = poorly represented opinion. And why does it matter to you? Are you the internet-criticism police or something?

I don't even understand what you're trying to accomplish here besides piss me off when you don't even like the movie either in the first place.

Edit: Okay, you know what, if it'll get you off my back I'll give you some legitimate criticism.

First off, it's hard to care at all about the fates of some punk kids with incomprehensible accents (to anyone outside Britain) when the very first thing they do at the very beginning is mug a woman on the streets at knife point. I was rooting for the Aliens to win at that point because I wanted the smug bastards to get whats coming to them. They're a bunch of punk kids with very few redeeming features until the very end where it doesn't matter that much anymore.

You're right, it is a comedy, and I'm sure it's funny to someone who lives in the ghettos of Britain and gets all the references. Hey, I guess maybe I'm the minority here /sarcasm, but I don't get the jokes at all. The only obvious one is that toy gun one, and it isn't funny. It's childish, which may be the point, but at that point of the movie I found myself barely able to tolerate sitting in the theater any longer.

The acting isn't all bad, I guess, I retract that statement. They did a fine depiction of punk kids I'd like to smack in the kisser over Xbox Live. If that's what they were aiming for, and not likable underdogs trying to get by in downtown London. I suppose it's more the script for the characters than the actors themselves.

Protip: If you put very, very unlikable characters in a monster movie where people die guess what I'm going to be waiting for?

The effects aren't that great. No, I'm not much of an effects freak and no, I don't want to watch Transformers "or something" before you pull that card out of your ass. I enjoy a good movie even if the effects are wonky. But as you can already tell, I despised the movie and the subpar effects did very little to alleviate that.

Oh yeah, and why I'm not really big on this issue, it does irk me that we learn nothing about the aliens at all. They're just random things that fall out of the sky and eat people, localized into one block. Why?

Fuck knows. Makes for a good movie. Except it doesn't.

Satisfied? I hope so, because if you quote me one more time asking me to "elaborate on why you find the effects bad" I'm going to memorize your user name and ignore everything you ever say for the rest of my time on these forums.

um... the hobbit?

SpiderJerusalem:

SteelStallion:

TownTattle:
I am not butthurt that you didn't like the movie because personally I didn't find it amazing either, it had created good characters, only not to have most of them develop enough in the short running time. My main gripe with your post is that your reasons for hating it are for the most part utter crap under close scrutiny(as previously stated "abysmal acting" is a horribly simplistic criticism of any film). The sense of humour wasn't meant as an insult, some people don't have the capacity to recognise comedy as you have now demonstrated. If you and your friend had been paying attention to the film you would have realised the kids did not have water (if you get my meaning) in their water gun and the comedy wasn't from the ridiculousness of two 9 year olds thinking they could take on an alien larger than themselves with just a water gun. If you don't understand how that could be construed as funny, then you obviously have a serious lack of humour.

I was already reluctant to elaborate on why I hate the movie, and what, you expected some kind of intricate breakdown of the movie and a meaningful critique? Of course it's a crude criticism, I'm not writing a fucking blog post review for you to read.

No, I do not find kids thinking they can take on an alien with a water gun funny. At all.

No, it's not called a "serious lack of humour", you're just ignorant and think the world revolves around your opinion. Different people find different things funny. The sooner you realize that sense of humor is subjective, the sooner you'll stop humiliating yourself post after post.

It's the difference between giving an image of yourself as a Jerry Springer audience member and a person with conversational skills that can handle a mature conversation. Sure, you've got your right to be that way, but be prepared to be called out on it, especially on an internet forum which is built for argumentation and conversing.

I don't think you get that he isn't even arguing against my opinion, he doesn't like the movie either. He's just arguing because he feels I'm obliged by the powers of the internet to write a formal essay on why my funny gland operates a certain way.

Thunderhorse31:
I was in a room full of people this week discussing movies, and someone brought up Midnight in Paris.

All but one guy (about 13ish people) said the movie sucked. And not just the normal kind of suck. I mean suuuuuuuuuuuuucccked.

The other guy? Thought it was brilliant.

I don't know who to believe, I guess I have to see it now.

Believe the other guy.

There seems to be a generational bias against Woody Allen... and it surely isn't fair because he's one of the greatest filmmaker's and greatest comic minds of the 20th Century. But like all things that age, the new generation doesn't appreciate him. (at least many don't yet)

I think if you take the time to read his early work, look at his earlier films, consider the width and breadth of his career, and judge his work in the context of its own time, you get a picture of a visionary who created an exceptional body of work and who had a powerful and lasting influence on all who followed him.

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