Non-Violent Game Idea: Puppies in Hell

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Non-Violent Game Idea: Puppies in Hell

Yahtzee has another brilliant/batty idea for a game.

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But isn't the car accident violence?!?

I smirked throughout this idea, imagine the levels in ninja gaiden 2 but in 2d and more zombie like

In fact, it sounds like zombieville USA on iPhone, but with puppies instead of guns

Pffft. Puppies.

Ponies are more contemporary.

So the puppies went to Hell in a handbasket?

Raiyan 1.0:
Pffft. Puppies.

Ponies are more contemporary.

Yes, but the ponies deserve to be in Hell, so the effect and effort are wasted.

Well, I think we all know what'll be GOTY in 2012 then =)

I'd imagine it wouldn't be impossible to mod this into an existing game. You could just turn bullet effects into puppies =)

Cats would be way better in this scenario. They can cling better than dogs, are cuter, and are overall just better. It would take a highly cynical and soulless individual to want puppies over kitties . . oh wait it's Yatzee. Makes sense now.

Sounds like a pretty awesome idea. I really like the main mechanic being based around pacification instead of violence. Sometimes it's pretty depressing to see how many games are focused around violence, and equally depressing to see how little people even notice it.

But cats are quite obviously better than dogs. Just sayin'.

LavaLampBamboo:
Well, I think we all know what'll be GOTY in 2012 then =)

I'd imagine it wouldn't be impossible to mod this into an existing game. You could just turn bullet effects into puppies =)

Didn't Postal already do that?

Yahtzee, you could have made this ultra-low-budget game and posted it to the App store, PSN, and XBLA, drowning you in so much cash, you could afford the metric ton of anti-depressants necessary to pull you out of that suicide watch when (and it is "when") they announce the Gears of War prequel. But no, now someone else will take your ~US$25 million idea and make a mountain of cash without you seeing more than a few cents for you weekly review.

Zachary Amaranth:

Raiyan 1.0:
Pffft. Puppies.

Ponies are more contemporary.

Yes, but the ponies deserve to be in Hell, so the effect and effort are wasted.

Mayday, mayday, calling in all ponies to hug Zachary Amaranth. Mayday mayday...

;)

honestdiscussioner:
Cats would be way better in this scenario. They can cling better than dogs, are cuter, and are overall just better. It would take a highly cynical and soulless individual to want puppies over kitties . . oh wait it's Yatzee. Makes sense now.

But cats are more related to demons and evil. Aside from Anubis, I've never really seen dogs used as a force for evil... plus puppy are better for humor in the situation that Yahtzee is describing.
Btw, I'd totally buy this. It sounds amazing.

Raiyan 1.0:

Zachary Amaranth:

Raiyan 1.0:
Pffft. Puppies.

Ponies are more contemporary.

Yes, but the ponies deserve to be in Hell, so the effect and effort are wasted.

Mayday, mayday, calling in all ponies to hug Zachary Amaranth. Mayday mayday...

;)

Joke's on you. I'm not a demon. I just work for one.

SilverUchiha:

honestdiscussioner:
Cats would be way better in this scenario. They can cling better than dogs, are cuter, and are overall just better. It would take a highly cynical and soulless individual to want puppies over kitties . . oh wait it's Yatzee. Makes sense now.

But cats are more related to demons and evil. Aside from Anubis, I've never really seen dogs used as a force for evil... plus puppy are better for humor in the situation that Yahtzee is describing.
Btw, I'd totally buy this. It sounds amazing.

You've never seen dogs used as a force for evil? Are you kidding me? What guards Hades? A three headed dog! What attacks you in nearly any game where animals attack you? Attack dogs. How are cats related to demons? Dogs and mangy and smelly, whereas cats clean themselves and bury their own poop!

I will admit the game sounds interesting . . it would just be better with cute, fluffy, adorable kitties.

Yahtzee, by any chance, did you get a puppy for Christmas?

Yahtzee Croshaw:
Non-Violent Game Idea: Puppies in Hell

Yahtzee has another brilliant/batty idea for a game.

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But Conflict is the simplest form of Challenge, and Violence is the simplest form of Conflict. What we've got is both games and stories of all types going with the structure that has the lowest overhead.

I think of your "Context - Challenge - Gratification" as the three ingredients to the Experience of a game. The Mechanics of the game should then serve to bring out the key aspects of that Experience. The problem is that a lot of games are conceived "Mechanics-first." People set out to make "a First-Person Shooter," which presumes shooting as Challenge, and so they have to think of Context and Gratification that make sense within a Shooter. How about a war for Context and explosions for Gratification? Brilliant! Ship it!

In other areas, we would consider this Bass-Ackwards approach odd. "I really, really want to use a hammer... Hmm, let me think up a project that depends heavily on my use of a hammer." As opposed to, "I want to build a house. I guess a hammer would be a good place to start," or "I'd love to have a garden. A hammer probably isn't the right tool for this job."

When we start thinking Experience first, we may find ourselves branching out into different or under-used Mechanics.

honestdiscussioner:

SilverUchiha:

honestdiscussioner:
Cats would be way better in this scenario. They can cling better than dogs, are cuter, and are overall just better. It would take a highly cynical and soulless individual to want puppies over kitties . . oh wait it's Yatzee. Makes sense now.

But cats are more related to demons and evil. Aside from Anubis, I've never really seen dogs used as a force for evil... plus puppy are better for humor in the situation that Yahtzee is describing.
Btw, I'd totally buy this. It sounds amazing.

You've never seen dogs used as a force for evil? Are you kidding me? What guards Hades? A three headed dog! What attacks you in nearly any game where animals attack you? Attack dogs. How are cats related to demons? Dogs and mangy and smelly, whereas cats clean themselves and bury their own poop!

I will admit the game sounds interesting . . it would just be better with cute, fluffy, adorable kitties.

A few things:

1 - Hades isn't evil, therefore guarding it isn't evil. The Elysian Fields are down there, too, y'know.

2 - Attack dogs are trained to do that, and not always for evil purposes. Sometimes you're not supposed to be wherever you are and that's WHY the dogs are attacking you.

3 - How are cats related to demons? Well, aside from the notion of a black cat just crossing your path causing you to be cursed, hard to say.

4 - The idea only works because puppies are generally luffable and non-violent. Kittens, while cute and pettable, have a tendency to claw the crap out of you sooner or later. They're also more fragile, so probably not a good idea to throw them at things. Nothing against cats, I just don't think they'd be as practical a choice for the concept (as if "practical" can be applied to the idea of a game about throwing cute animals at demons to calm them down).

I would play this game. I would also buy it for any young nephews & nieces.

I like the idea of the puppies gaining powers throughout the game. Also there could be a mod for turning them into large pitbulls when you got tired of the puppy lovefest. :)

Zachary Amaranth:

Raiyan 1.0:

Zachary Amaranth:

Yes, but the ponies deserve to be in Hell, so the effect and effort are wasted.

Mayday, mayday, calling in all ponies to hug Zachary Amaranth. Mayday mayday...

;)

Joke's on you. I'm not a demon. I just work for one.

It's okay. The Pony Effect is wide ranging.

I don't know if I want to play this as much as I want to play Mankind Will Never Understand My Genius, but I really want to play this.

You know what would be even better: change puppies to hand grenades...
Oh right.

I would play the shit out of this if it appeared on the XBLA

Dammit this game needs to be made.

I could see that as a decent concept.

Being the slightly younger than thou person I am, I feel like that would work better for a 3D adventure game. Nonlinear environments you have to explore through, having the four (four? three?) puppies follow you around, and have it play like a spyro or mario or crash bandicoot or any other adventure game from the PS1/N64/Saturn era.

It would be pretty fun.

LavaLampBamboo:
Well, I think we all know what'll be GOTY in 2012 then =)

I'd imagine it wouldn't be impossible to mod this into an existing game. You could just turn bullet effects into puppies =)

Let's make this with the Doom 3 source code!

I imagine this as a cuter 2D version of pikmin. I also imagine that any of your game ideas could well be hits if they were made for the app store.

Yahtzee Croshaw:
A hodge-podge of pagan midwinter festivals and traditions with a half-arsed connection to Christ tacked on by the Emperor Constantine so it would be easier to convert the rest of the Roman Empire to Christianity. Where do you think that whole Christmas tree thing came from, religious nuts? Not too many evergreens in Jerusalem.

Ah Yahtzee, you magnificent bastard. You should write a book.

5...4...3...

I was reading that thinking, "Man, Yahtzee must be a hardcore cat person!"

And then he M. Night Shyamalaned me (and I'm talking Sixth Sense Shyamalan, not The Happening Shyamalan).

As a cat person, I'm personally glad that this game will use puppies. Because throwing puppies at demons sounds like barrels of fun. >:-)

Raiyan 1.0:

It's okay. The Pony Effect is wide ranging.

As is my wrath.

Frozenfeet2:
I imagine this as a cuter 2D version of pikmin. I also imagine that any of your game ideas could well be hits if they were made for the app store.

It strikes me as something that could have easily been a hit in the NES/SNES days.

[qoute]If you put in cats instead of rottweilers in Quake the only possible threat they could provide would be batting the player character in the face when they're trying to sleep.[/quote]

I don't know cats are pretty threatening. They can stink up whatever room has the litterbox so nobody wants to use that half of the house. They can be all cute and curl up on your lap until some real or imagined danger shows up and then they use your scrotum as a claw-powered springboard. They can get underfoot when your carrying heavy, delicate stuff or walking down the stairs. They can puke between your bedroom and your bathroom so when you wake up in the middle of the night to take a leak you can slip in it and smash your head on the bedframe. They can also prevent you from sleeping by puking somewhere hidden because you know that unless you wake up and find it the previous scenario becomes increasingly likely.

And finally they can give you ptsd by leaving torn up rodent carcasses around and possibly in your bed to indicate that if you were small and furry that would be you.

I know its a bit off topic, but that's one of the best summaries/definitions of Christmas I've ever seen. I'm going to have to remember that one for next Christmas.

The whole concept reminded me of a game called "Robot Wants Puppy" (the second in a series of 2D flash games), where you throw your kitty to your enemies in order to defeat them.

Here´s the URL: http://hamumu.com/robotpuppy.php

The sad thing is?

I would play this game.

I would BUY this game.

Add a role-playing element and call it "Demons & Doggies"...

I am gonna hug the shit out of those puppies.

I was about to say if IJI counts as a non violent game, since your actions of not firing at all get rewarded by the admiration of your enemies and most of the boss fights after that end up dead but not by your hand anyway.

But i guess he refers to a game that doesn't offer the chance to do a pacifist run but instead it full pacifist in its own way.

Speaking of puppies, does anyone here gets flashbacks to the Earthworm Jim 2 stage of "Puppy Love"?? where you have to avoid the puppies from hitting the ground or else you get owned?? Dat fucking stage man

Actually it could be done with cats if done to Lovecraft monsters. Havent you seen "Hello Cthulhu"??

I have to agree with the idea of Dogs being better than cats... (Cats are just fucking stupid!) but I don't really agree with the game concept! It still sounds violent!!

I once played a Net Yaroze game on the PSX that involved having to save babies from ghost. If the babies got hit by an ghost, they would stop and cry, and you would have to recollect them.
You had to diffuse the ghosts by using a selection of weapons... but the weapons were all cutsey guns, such as rainbow rays, and fruit guns (that just turned the ghosts into fruit that you could pick up for extra points.)
The whole game had been converted into cute graphics and ideas, but it didn't stop the fact that you were still running around killing stuff, and that stuff was coming to kill you! Therefore it was still violence... Even though there was no blood, gore, or actual death (ghosts always just faded away, or were transformed into other things) the concept was still there!

An example of a nonviolent game, which was supprisingly good, and immersive, would be Dog's Life back on the PS2! That game was the ultimate in giving the played things to do that didn't involve hunting and killing opponants, or being hunted and killed yourself!

I want that game. Probably as a sidescroller.

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