Friends vs Seinfeld

Friends vs Seinfeld

Ugly Naked Guy vs. Soup Nazi

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I've never really watched either.

Being brought up with the anarchic Young Ones, the truly insane {i]Dallas[/i], last week's episode of Soap and Charlene in Neighbours; I've still not sussed Friends or Seinfeld.

Friends was what the girls in my school said was aspirational; when its focus was what latte a group of rich thirtysomethings would drink. Saccharine coated mush.
Seinfeld, like Buffy is something that people wanted me to try via osmosis. Maybe try that soon, now the hype has died down.

Still, of the two, I'd still pick something else.

It seems like you are comparing apples and oranges. Seinfeld and friends are two completely different types of shows, Seinfeld being centered on the individual as a part of the group, and Friends being focused on the group as a collection of individuals. They are written and presented in two very different ways. Friends is more akin to How I Met Your Mother, while Seinfeld is more like My Name is Earl.

The characters on Seinfeld are the cause of the humorous situations while the characters on Friends are more reactionary.

The_root_of_all_evil:
I've never really watched either.
Friends was what the girls in my school said was aspirational; when its focus was what latte a group of rich thirtysomethings would drink. Saccharine coated mush.
Seinfeld, like Buffy is something that people wanted me to try via osmosis. Maybe try that soon, now the hype has died down.

Still, of the two, I'd still pick something else.

Your loss. Both are superior to pretty much every show from the previous decade.

And yet, still no talk of British sitcoms. Namely the Young Ones and Red Dwarf!

Wait... is Red Dwarf technically a sitcom?

EDIT: Wikipidia says yes!

"Red Dwarf is a British comedy franchise which primarily comprises eight series (plus a ninth smaller series named Back To Earth) of a television science fiction sitcom that aired on BBC Two between 1988 and 1999 and Dave from 2009-present."

Seinfeld wins hands down. Friends was just so fucking boring.

As someone who's over the pond, I can say for definite that Seinfeld had practically no impact over here (I know that's a generalisation, but I've never known anyone that's even heard of it here). As such, I grew up on Friends and the Fresh Prince of Bel Air (if we're speaking strictly on American sitcoms and ignoring such shows as Only Fool and Horses - something I assume purely because of article's debaters). I have a nostalgic love for Friends that I will never lose because that's just it - it's a person's personal experience. Sure, I can look at Friends now and see mediocre comedy. But I don't. I look at it and see Friday evenings spent waiting for the new episode. I see Saturday and Sunday mornings spent watching and re-watching old episodes. I see a show that's been on repeat for the past seventeen years that I seem to never got bored of watching.

Hey, long rant, I know, I just think that it's a moot argument that we can argue about people's opinions on what they like. Out of Friends and Seinfeld though? Friends.

theApoc:

Your loss. Both are superior to pretty much every show from the previous decade.

Every show from the 80s?

Even if you're only counting SitComs (And leaving out shows like Magnum PI, Quantum Leap, Miami Vice, Fraggle Rock, MacGuyver, Sledge Hammer, LA Law) there's still

Different Strokes, ALF, The Wonder Years, The Cosby Show, and goddam Cheers.

And, before you go posting a reply, let's be careful out there...
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Never found Seinfeld funny. Friends, on the other hand is hilarious! One of the best episodes was that huge stick they used to poke Ugly Naked Guy from across the street XD

I love Friends. Seinfeld's characters never appealed to me.

Grew up on Young Ones, Bottom and Red Dwarf, never could see what was funny about the US stuff.

{Off topic: Anyone remember TLC? That was awesome but got canned in moments, maybe as you had to know medicine/UK hospital culture to really get it}

Seinfeld isn't on ever in england, least i've not seen it on.

I've still watched the majority of the episodes though.. however you don't want to know how many times i've rewatched every episode of friends... every day at 6pm for about god knows how many years, and me and my sister watched the original showing as well rewatched the entire series on DVD on two separate vacations

Of the two, Friends. I've never actually seen Seinfeld, though, but it's never appealed to me.
My current favourite is The Big Bang Theory and my pick for the actual best ever is definitely Frasier. It's intelligent yet incredibly accessible. It's lengthy but without a dull episode. I love Frasier!

None, Friends have to much romance and Seinfield have worse characters.

I prefer the first seasons of Himym or Big Bang Theory.

Despite being British, I have every season of Seinfeld on DVD. I can safely say that I vastly prefer it to Friends. I get Friends as something you can just tune into and have a chuckle, but Seinfeld always strikes me as far more subtle, better constructed.

There may only be one or two moments at which you burst out laughing in an episode, but when you do it will stick in your mind for ages, like the Soup Nazi, or the Junior Mint, or Newman's diabolical speech in the last episode. With Seinfeld, despite the episodes all being watchable as stand-alone affairs, as opposed to Friends' two or even three parters, you enjoy it more with every episode you watch - you get the characters better, you know their little neurotic quirks, and can relate to them!

Either way, big up Seinfeld, but it's cool whichever you prefer. Peace out!

I don't remember enough to back it up but Cosby was a bigger deal than those.

Everybody loves raymond would have been a good contendant too.

I've not watched Seinfeld before, because they never show it on TV over here in the UK. Conversely, Friends is on all the time. The only two US shows to have had any real significance on my childhood are Friends and The Simpsons, which are both brilliant, without even considering the nostalgia factor. But Seinfeld? Nah. I hadn't even heard of it until recently, for chrissakes.

You were talking 'bout pop culture permeation from Seinfield, but as I said before, for some reason it seems to be an American only affair (of those phrases I'd only heard of yada yada yada) so Friends still gets the upper hand for genuinely being world popular, it also boosted it's actors way more. Even after watching your debate I could only point out one Seinfeld guy but the friends cast are everywhere and even able to support semi decent movie careers off it

BrotherRool:
You were talking 'bout pop culture permeation from Seinfield, but as I said before, for some reason it seems to be an American only affair

Another British person here. Very few of my friends have seen Seinfeld. Of those who have, I can't think of any who are fans. I suspect that Americans weren't used to having sitcoms with unpleasant, unsympathetic characters. We were.

They. Are. Both. Bad. Bad. Bad. Awful. Bad.

Phil is awesome in this

I personally never cared much for Friends. I've seen about one season worth of episodes and never came back to it. The show was interesting at times but never really funny to me with few exceptions (Mrs. Chanandler Bong)

Seinfeld on the other hand is my all time favorite sitcom, surpassing greats such as Always Sunny in Philadelphia and Arrested Development.

Gotta go with Seinfeld on this, never watched much of friends...but their humour is very different, both sitcoms but with very different writing styles.

You just can't beat Larry David, the writing is genius and the situations in each episode all manage to have a fantastic climax where everyting just comes together.

Seinfeld isn't really funny in the slightest to me, much too in your face American comedy
Friends I find much more entertaining, and the jokes are much better.

I always preferred Seinfeld because it was a much darker comedy and never tried to preach morals or teach lessons about love and happiness and all that jazz like Friends did. Objectively, I think they are both good shows. Subjectively, I liked Seinfeld's humor more because it wasn't overly serious and it never had a single moment of drama.

Friends is the easy winner for me. Seinfeld just never seemed funny or interesting. I still watch Friends almost every night and laugh at it. For me it has the right blend of comedy and seriousness.

Actually, both are horrible shows in my opinion. I immediately change the channel whenever I see the intro.

But I've never really been a fan of any kind of show; I guess I just don't like the genre ("shows"). The only shows I can actually stand to watch is The Big Bang Theory, Dr. Who, and some of the HBO/Starz miniseries (Game of Thrones, Spartacus etc.).

The_root_of_all_evil:
I've never really watched either.

Being brought up with the anarchic Young Ones, the truly insane {i]Dallas[/i], last week's episode of Soap and Charlene in Neighbours; I've still not sussed Friends or Seinfeld.

Friends was what the girls in my school said was aspirational; when its focus was what latte a group of rich thirtysomethings would drink. Saccharine coated mush.
Seinfeld, like Buffy is something that people wanted me to try via osmosis. Maybe try that soon, now the hype has died down.

Still, of the two, I'd still pick something else.

Haha well I wouldn't say the characters in friends are "rich". At different times they have different amounts of money based on their jobs and some of them do alright from time to time. But one of them is practically an out of work actor most of the time and another is a full time masseuse, hardly what I would call rich. Also they all live in apartments and most of them have roommates. Also the fact that lots of people tell you to try something is a pretty bad reason to not try it. It's just as bad as liking it only because other people like it. You should try them at least and then make up your own mind. You might surprise yourself and grow to really like one or both.

OT: I suppose you can guess by now which one I like. I never really got into Seinfeld, I just coulnd't get it's humor. But I love friends I watch it rather often because my sister has all the DVD's.

TimeLord:
And yet, still no talk of British sitcoms. Namely the Young Ones and Red Dwarf!

Wait... is Red Dwarf technically a sitcom?

EDIT: Wikipidia says yes!

"Red Dwarf is a British comedy franchise which primarily comprises eight series (plus a ninth smaller series named Back To Earth) of a television science fiction sitcom that aired on BBC Two between 1988 and 1999 and Dave from 2009-present."

Mr. Flibble for the win. IT Crowd and Black Books were both pretty good too.

Wow and here I thought it would be an easy contest. Seinfeld hands down the writing is pretty relevant to american culture and the characters while pretty despicable tend to have very relatable situations and if you watch the right episodes. Things can be very wacky. The show has influenced pop culture it was that successful and effective. Friends on the other hand.

Look. I don't doubt that Friends was popular. But among my group, friends was the show liked only by dorky suburban plain as bread white people (humorously that stance stands as most of my friends who were Caucasian agreed). You couldn't PAY a person of ethnicity to watch friends. I've seen the show it's like the full house of adult sitcoms. It is like box macaroni and cheese. Edible but so very processed it's garbage in comparison to homemade. It's lack of teeth and ability to truly be witty or clever.

Both are wrong. Frasier is the winner. It manges to be intelligent and funny, never going for jokes which pandered to the lowest common denominator like Friends did and was consistently good unlike Seinfeld which only really got good around the third season.

Something I've definitely discovered with Seinfeld (both the show and the comedian himself) is that his form of wit is simply lost on some. I tried to get my friends as hooked onto the show as I was, but only had something of about a 60% conversion rate, with the other 40 just not "getting it". Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

We really need to dispel this persistent misconception that Friends was a good show.

theApoc:
It seems like you are comparing apples and oranges. Seinfeld and friends are two completely different types of shows, Seinfeld being centered on the individual as a part of the group, and Friends being focused on the group as a collection of individuals. They are written and presented in two very different ways. Friends is more akin to How I Met Your Mother, while Seinfeld is more like My Name is Earl.

The characters on Seinfeld are the cause of the humorous situations while the characters on Friends are more reactionary.

The_root_of_all_evil:
I've never really watched either.
Friends was what the girls in my school said was aspirational; when its focus was what latte a group of rich thirtysomethings would drink. Saccharine coated mush.
Seinfeld, like Buffy is something that people wanted me to try via osmosis. Maybe try that soon, now the hype has died down.

Still, of the two, I'd still pick something else.

Your loss. Both are superior to pretty much every show from the previous decade.

Indeed. And whoever said that the characters in Friends were rich?

Random Fella:
Seinfeld isn't really funny in the slightest to me, much too in your face American comedy
Friends I find much more entertaining, and the jokes are much better.

Indeed. While controversy can be funny and shouldn't be completely shied away from, if you have to be controversial to be funny, you're doing something wrong and are an idiot.

Edit: I just realized how much I've been saying "indeed"...

theApoc:

Your loss. Both are superior to pretty much every show from the previous decade.

Personally, I thought both were awful.

 

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