Sol: Exodus Review

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Sol: Exodus Review

It's great to be shooting down fighters and blowing up capital ships again.

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Gah! I can't decide if I want this or Evochron Mercenary. They both look so, sooo sexy!

Downloadig now. Been waiting for a decent space shooter for aaages.

This would be great if it didn't decide to make me and mine the villains. (by which I mean, religious people in general and Christians in particular)
For a rough analogy, atheists in the audience, imagine how you'd feel watching a movie in which a crowd of bloodthirsty videogaming killers (justified in-universe by the popular perception of violent videogames as psychologically affecting) were the villains.

In general, though, I hope the resurgence of space combat games continues. Let's bring the age of Freespace back with a vengeance!

No sound in vacuum ?
Unacceptable !
Techies, install some sound system simulating explosions in my shuttle.
I demand it ! :)

"Shut up Flippy" in relation to barrel rolls? The internet is going to tear you apart Mr. Tito :).

That quote from Lylat Wars/Starfox 64, which became the meme, was said by Peppy Hare. The toad was called Slippy, not Flippy.

Seems like a fun title though. Haven't heard great things about Evochron, so I may pick this one up...

um... Have ANYONE here played Freelancer? because I was thinking about that game when you were describing this game... I missed Freelancer... I wish they would make Freelancer2 or something... because that game... YOU CAN BE THE CARGO SHIP! I just wish they can make the next Freelancer allowing players to form a "guild" and then guild leader would control a slow turning/moving, turret bagging, NPC fighter sending, moving boss fighting Battle ship! MMO-Freelancer! This game... I think graphic and story is nice... but as far as epic-ness... Freelancer is still better choice...

Now...I have a very, very, very srs question.

You hold the destiny of Ģ6.99 in your hands, Escapees!

The only thing that puts me off is the fact that it might be too short. Playing a great game that ends too abruptly would be a waste of time and/or money as I try to dig through my collection of older space sims (x3 most likely) or worse buy a mediocre game just to fill that gaping hole.

mightybozz:
"Shut up Flippy" in relation to barrel rolls? The internet is going to tear you apart Mr. Tito :).

That quote from Lylat Wars/Starfox 64, which became the meme, was said by Peppy Hare. The toad was called Slippy, not Flippy.

Seems like a fun title though. Haven't heard great things about Evochron, so I may pick this one up...

Heh, thanks. I tried to wipe the memory of that game from my mind. So when I tried to recall the exact character, I went with the wrong name altogether.

Fixed in the article.

Greg

omicron1:
This would be great if it didn't decide to make me and mine the villains. (by which I mean, religious people in general and Christians in particular)
For a rough analogy, atheists in the audience, imagine how you'd feel watching a movie in which a crowd of bloodthirsty videogaming killers (justified in-universe by the popular perception of violent videogames as psychologically affecting) were the villains.

In general, though, I hope the resurgence of space combat games continues. Let's bring the age of Freespace back with a vengeance!

To be fair, I think the game is not so much vilifying the religious as it is the immoral manipulative cult leaders who feed on the faithful. Think of it as depicting L. Ron Hubbard as the villain, not religious people in general. The way Mr. Tito put it, it sounded like the mooks you were fighting were generally good people just scared and turned radical...

Then again, I am an Atheist, I haven't played this game, and I probably would be defensive if the setting was instead a bunch of raging non-believers trying to blow up a space-church.

That said though, looking back in history, Organized Religion has been abused and used as a tool of war in the past. And by my understanding of it all, the fallibility of Organized Religion is no reflection of the religious.

Okay, so I got a question for you: how is this better than The Babylon Project? Because I'm not seeing a lot of reasons to fork over 9.99€ for this game. Help me out here, Greg!

OK, I think I already know which game Yahtzee will review in one or two weeks...

The ability to orient your fighter 360 degrees while the momentum continues going in one direction - "Sliding" is what the kids are calling it now, as one character in Exodus points out - lets you get away with breaking some of the rules of physics.

That's not breaking the laws of physics. It's what would happen if you were to cease accelerating and then point the ship in another direction - you keep going in the direction you were originally heading.

Telperion:
Okay, so I got a question for you: how is this better than The Babylon Project? Because I'm not seeing a lot of reasons to fork over 9.99€ for this game. Help me out here, Greg!

It's prettier :P
Well you can't compete on price with a free game, but this does have it's moneys worth of content.
I know it's a strange thing when some devs just create for the fun of it while others ask for money, but it's hard or near impossible to compare them on worth... final question is always if it's worth it to you.

Freelancer was the last good space combat game I played. No hacking enemy capital ships, you shot them full of lasers till they blew up.

Chrono212:
Now...I have a very, very, very srs question.

You hold the destiny of Ģ6.99 in your hands, Escapees!

No you don't it works with mouse/keyboard, and Gamepads too. In fact my Joystick doesn't work with it :(

One thing though the developers are really on the case with tweaks and patches. In fact I'm downloading the latest patch which adds more joystick support (so maybe it'll work now).

This is a fun game, and well worth the Ģ6.99. Combined with the amazingly quick tech support on their forums then I'd say this is a great buy.

This makes me very happy to hear. These people can shut up and take my money the moment I have money again.

It also makes me happy to see this genre making a comeback now. Between this, Darkstar 1, StarRaiders, etc were finally getting some titles.

But I too am a little resentful at yet another opportunity being taken to try and scapegoat religion. Really im not even a religious person, but its such a worn out tedious trope that really is just as hypocritical as what it is supposed to be rallying against, But i digress.

We need more games like this. Now if only interplay would either release or come off the IP for descent we would be doing pretty damned good.

Reading this review finally made me realize why I am so incredibly dissapointed by this game.
I approached it from the perspective of Freespace 2 and Starlancer.
Donīt do that.
Donīt expect a significant degree of variation in mission design, ships, weapons or characters.
Donīt expect a gripping storyline. Donīt expect huge battles between entire fleets.
It wonīt give you any of these things.

It will give you good combat and good graphics (but dear god do I ever hope you like escorting transports).
It is fun, but this is not the ressurgence of games like Freespace and Wing Commander.
Thought if this sells well, we might get that one day, too.

viranimus:

But I too am a little resentful at yet another opportunity being taken to try and scapegoat religion. Really im not even a religious person, but its such a worn out tedious trope that really is just as hypocritical as what it is supposed to be rallying against, But i digress.

I really can't understand this. Look at the world around you. Pay attention to the news, certain extreme political speeches, terrorist propaganda and the like. Do any of these accurately reflect you, your beliefs or those of the people you know? Then why would you assume that the antagonists of this game are modeled after your beliefs and not the very real extremists I just mentioned?

Scars Unseen:

viranimus:

But I too am a little resentful at yet another opportunity being taken to try and scapegoat religion. Really im not even a religious person, but its such a worn out tedious trope that really is just as hypocritical as what it is supposed to be rallying against, But i digress.

I really can't understand this. Look at the world around you. Pay attention to the news, certain extreme political speeches, terrorist propaganda and the like. Do any of these accurately reflect you, your beliefs or those of the people you know? Then why would you assume that the antagonists of this game are modeled after your beliefs and not the very real extremists I just mentioned?

Its really simple. Its the way that the gaming industry portrays religion. Consistently religion as a whole is portrayed as nothing but religious zealots bent on death and destruction to all who oppose their system of belief. There is also the reoccuring theme that religion is inherently corrupt monstrosity preying on the desparate and ignorant.

Honestly, its sort of like Iran getting pissed off because they see Battlefield 3 implying that Iran is nothing but terrorists who want to chop other peoples heads off and blow up shit with RPGs

Seriously, when was the last time you saw a game try to portray religion (even its own fictional made up ones) in any light other than negative?

viranimus:

Scars Unseen:

viranimus:

But I too am a little resentful at yet another opportunity being taken to try and scapegoat religion. Really im not even a religious person, but its such a worn out tedious trope that really is just as hypocritical as what it is supposed to be rallying against, But i digress.

I really can't understand this. Look at the world around you. Pay attention to the news, certain extreme political speeches, terrorist propaganda and the like. Do any of these accurately reflect you, your beliefs or those of the people you know? Then why would you assume that the antagonists of this game are modeled after your beliefs and not the very real extremists I just mentioned?

Its really simple. Its the way that the gaming industry portrays religion. Consistently religion as a whole is portrayed as nothing but religious zealots bent on death and destruction to all who oppose their system of belief. There is also the reoccuring theme that religion is inherently corrupt monstrosity preying on the desparate and ignorant.

Honestly, its sort of like Iran getting pissed off because they see Battlefield 3 implying that Iran is nothing but terrorists who want to chop other peoples heads off and blow up shit with RPGs

Seriously, when was the last time you saw a game try to portray religion (even its own fictional made up ones) in any light other than negative?

When's the last time you saw an action or story driven game focus on the positive aspects of anything. Ultima IV is one of the few I can think of. As for minor aspects of games, Shenmue let you pray at the Buddhist shrine in your home. The Castlevania series is all about the triumph of Christianity(and whips) over evil. In many 4X games you can utilize religion for poisitve or destructive purposes. What about clerics in the Baldur's Gate series? And then there's the Jedi. In Dragon Age 2, the Grand Cleric was all that kept Kirkwall from falling into chaos. There's more if you want to actually look for it.

The positive is there if you want to look for it. If you want to see everything in a negative light and take on a persecution complex, that's on you, but in no way has anything to do with the developers of Sol.

thenumberthirteen:

One thing though the developers are really on the case with tweaks and patches. In fact I'm downloading the latest patch which adds more joystick support (so maybe it'll work now).

Hm...I'll have to consider it. I'm not buying this game, if it doesn't have XYZ-axis support for my joystick. Actually, I'm okay with just XY, but having Z really makes it easier on those "slides" Greg talks about.

Eh I think I'm going to take TotalBiscuit's verdict on this game since it doesn't seem like his first impression was particularly far off from the rest of the game. There really doesn't seem to be "much" in this game in the way of content. Only 8 missions, only 3 weapons and only 1 not-very-clever gimmick.

omicron1:
This would be great if it didn't decide to make me and mine the villains. (by which I mean, religious people in general and Christians in particular)
For a rough analogy, atheists in the audience, imagine how you'd feel watching a movie in which a crowd of bloodthirsty videogaming killers (justified in-universe by the popular perception of violent videogames as psychologically affecting) were the villains.

In general, though, I hope the resurgence of space combat games continues. Let's bring the age of Freespace back with a vengeance!

It's an easy choice story-wise to make some fanatical religious people the bad guys but I don't blame them. The easiest way to create a legion of humans who are somehow against the survival of their own species is to stick religion in there. I'm hard pressed to think of any other plausible motivations.

Starfighter game. Target lead indicator. Using a fighter to take down capitol ships. Screw Battlestar Galactica! I see a LOT of Freelancer in there! But,shamefully,the length is pushing me away...I like a meatier experience. Yes,I'm a glutton. So sue me.

Scars Unseen:
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Ok, I see where your coming from its not all bad of course dependent on your perspective. But my problem is not that positive takes on religion do not exist. Its the sheer ratio of negatives vs positives as well as as the industry bending over backwards of portraying the negatives in grossly over exaggerated levels of unmitigated evil. The point I was making is that its like a joke that has long since ceased to be funny.

Anyway, getting back on track. I know its a smaller, more indie game and honestly the genre is not back in form, but before last year, what type of space combat games were we getting? the X series? Project Sylpheed? So really even if it is a baby step, its absolutely a step in a direction I would gladly throw money at. I would throw especially large amounts at a new colony wars for that matter, but thats prolly never going to happen.

viranimus:

Scars Unseen:

viranimus:

But I too am a little resentful at yet another opportunity being taken to try and scapegoat religion. Really im not even a religious person, but its such a worn out tedious trope that really is just as hypocritical as what it is supposed to be rallying against, But i digress.

I really can't understand this. Look at the world around you. Pay attention to the news, certain extreme political speeches, terrorist propaganda and the like. Do any of these accurately reflect you, your beliefs or those of the people you know? Then why would you assume that the antagonists of this game are modeled after your beliefs and not the very real extremists I just mentioned?

Its really simple. Its the way that the gaming industry portrays religion. Consistently religion as a whole is portrayed as nothing but religious zealots bent on death and destruction to all who oppose their system of belief. There is also the reoccuring theme that religion is inherently corrupt monstrosity preying on the desparate and ignorant.

Honestly, its sort of like Iran getting pissed off because they see Battlefield 3 implying that Iran is nothing but terrorists who want to chop other peoples heads off and blow up shit with RPGs

Seriously, when was the last time you saw a game try to portray religion (even its own fictional made up ones) in any light other than negative?

Umm. Quite often. Many games have religion as a positive, RPGs and 4Xs give special magic powers to religious characters (In fantasy ones) That either buff them up, or allow them to take down evil easier. Not necessarily make them able to take down other neutrals and good easily - look at Holy Light in WC3, healed any living, killed any undead. When it doesn't do magic stuff, it is reflected in games like Civ IV to provide HAPPINESS bonuses to your people. There is no unhappiness from religion, only happiness.

Religion is an easy target to pin stuff on thanks to the way that many religious people act. Many don't sit back and be quiet, but will openly attack those who aren't religious, and sometimes those who are. I'm not just talking Westborough here, but other literal fanatics too. These people generally are given more publicity than the good religious people as they are controversial. Someone saying 'We should all understand that religion is a choice, not a necessity' whilst being religious is not going to get as much coverage as someone saying 'All you atheists are blasphemers, and need to go to hell! Believe in god or suffer the consequences!', and is screaming that around town. The former generally is quiet, and what the mind of most people is - not too interesting - the later is going around declaring stuff to the world, and is highly controversial in their message. = more views for whatever news show/magazine.
This is why religion gets a bad name mostly in these cases, with fanatical leaders and such. This (Hopefully) minority who is rather vocal at times, and sticks in everybody - theist, atheist or agnostic - 's head as being annoying and somewhat villainous. It is these people that things involving Religious fanatics are usually based off - the fanatics. You don't want to get grouped with them, show people you are different. You don't have to do anything special, hell, doing nothing at all is preferable. People will accept you as you, and not a fanatic. Of further help would be getting people to actually shut the fanatics down, but that would end up as even more trouble overall.

Besides, there have been games and movies that target pretty much everyone as a villain - atheists largely included. Hell, pop culture is in movies and games that religion is good. How often do you see that evil monster being the good guy, and the priest with the sign of the cross as the bad guy in a horror movie? Not often. In shows like the Simpsons, is going to church not portrayed as a very good thing to do?

The 'attacks' occur on both sides. Personally, I prefer shows that take a fair stance on religion, and not just praise it or criticise it.

thenumberthirteen:

Chrono212:
Now...I have a very, very, very srs question.

You hold the destiny of Ģ6.99 in your hands, Escapees!

No you don't it works with mouse/keyboard, and Gamepads too. In fact my Joystick doesn't work with it :(

One thing though the developers are really on the case with tweaks and patches. In fact I'm downloading the latest patch which adds more joystick support (so maybe it'll work now).

This is a fun game, and well worth the Ģ6.99. Combined with the amazingly quick tech support on their forums then I'd say this is a great buy.

But is it more fun with a joystick?

Chrono212:

thenumberthirteen:

Chrono212:
Now...I have a very, very, very srs question.

You hold the destiny of Ģ6.99 in your hands, Escapees!

No you don't it works with mouse/keyboard, and Gamepads too. In fact my Joystick doesn't work with it :(

One thing though the developers are really on the case with tweaks and patches. In fact I'm downloading the latest patch which adds more joystick support (so maybe it'll work now).

This is a fun game, and well worth the Ģ6.99. Combined with the amazingly quick tech support on their forums then I'd say this is a great buy.

But is it more fun with a joystick?

Flight games generally are. I have fond memories of myself as a young boy sitting in my room gleefully playing away with my joystick clenched in my right hand pumping the throttle and jiggling it about wildly playing X Wing. Good wholesome fun.

thenumberthirteen:

Chrono212:

thenumberthirteen:

No you don't it works with mouse/keyboard, and Gamepads too. In fact my Joystick doesn't work with it :(

One thing though the developers are really on the case with tweaks and patches. In fact I'm downloading the latest patch which adds more joystick support (so maybe it'll work now).

This is a fun game, and well worth the Ģ6.99. Combined with the amazingly quick tech support on their forums then I'd say this is a great buy.

But is it more fun with a joystick?

Flight games generally are. I have fond memories of myself as a young boy sitting in my room gleefully playing away with my joystick clenched in my right hand pumping the throttle and jiggling it about wildly playing X Wing. Good wholesome fun.

Well played.

We are adding more content very soon!

the whole layout looks a lot like Hawx 2 but in space to me.i was disappointed by hawx,but ill buy this anyway though, games like this need to be encouraged.

Christopher Stockman:
We are adding more content very soon!

Sweet. I went and bought the game today. While there are some issues with the game generally speaking I though it well worth the 9.99€. I played through a few missions, and I didn't find the whole hacking minigame too offensive. Heck, Triple-A games have much more annoying and intrusive minigames than this thing. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but it's better than just loading up Missile Type X to kill Enemy Type A. The three weapons are nice, and the retro feel of the game certainly doesn't hurt. Okay, you could do a little better with collision detection, because on several occasions (having only played four missions) I have gone right through a big ship. At first I thought, I needed to be really close for hacking, so I kept colliding with enemy ships - this is where I noticed the collision detection bugs.

I want to thank everyone that has not only supported us but this genre.

I'll be the first one to admit we stumbled a bit upon release but we have taken ALL criticism to heart and have since released 4 patches that not only drastically changed core gameplay (and in some cases missions themselves) but also fixed a number of issues that our customers have identified.

And we're not done yet. Not by a long shot. We're hard at work on additional content, DLC, and more.

We want to bring space shooters back into the mainstream by making them accessible and fun to play. And our team (all 6 of us!) are dedicated to making this happen.

In the coming days we'll be releasing a demo and you can judge the game for yourself to determine it's worth the asking price.

P.S. Totalbiscuit's review (along with almost everyone else's_ was based on an outdated build. Much has changed since.

Thank you,

Chris Stockman
Seamless Entertainment

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