King Arthur II Review

King Arthur II Review

King Arthur II attempts to blend the genres of RPG, RTS and grand strategy war game.

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Roman Legionaire...Space Marines? Whoa. Didn't know that tenth century soldiers could move while wearing a semi's worth of metal about themselves. But...why did it have a shield? Gah...@.@

Anyways. Looks like an interesting blend of the two genres. Not sure I'd pick it up, especially with Amalur sitting on shelves as it is, but it might be interesting to play a bit down the road.

To be picky...

*Tenant*:
"a: one who holds or possesses real estate or sometimes personal property (as a security) by any kind of right
b: one who has the occupation or temporary possession of lands or tenements of another; specifically, one who rents or leases (as a house) from a landlord"

Did you perhaps mean *tenet*? "a principle or belief" :p

But regarding the game, the rpg+rts mash-up idea I like, but that art style is awful. I like my Arthurian legends either in the Romance style or gritty and realistic. This comic-book/Warhammer style doesn't cut it for me.

Love the game and enjoyed the campaign but can't argue with criticisms like the small font xP

Just to add to this review, it's worth noting that king arthur 2 has been extremely divisive amongst its fan base in that the game isn't as total war as the first in regards to objectives and game progresion, basically in ka2 the campaign is much more driven and you're directed from goal to goal with a few bonus objectives here and there (also the tier system means you can only conquer pronvinces in a certain order, so you won't be able to take over a province whose armies out tier you due to their troops being much more powerful), but not like the more freeform style of ka1. This has annoyed quite a few who wanted to see a bigger and improved version of ka1 and the tier system despit helping pacing also railroads the player.

On the upside this does have the effect of making the campaign experience more consistent then ka1, which would have a MASSIVE difficulty spike towards the end due to constantly respawning strong armies which a lot of players simply couldn't handle.

Can add quite a bit more to ka2 but no point writing a tl dr if no one is interested in reading it, so will just conclude by mentionning my favorite addition to the series: air units.

The air units in this game are simply awesome, they swoop down on the hapless soldiers below, duel other air units in the skies in a way that looks awesome and dynamic (they dont just stand there in the air trading bows) and also, dragons. Dragons in this game look awesome as they strafe enemy regiments and burn dozen of soldiers with each pass.

EvilPicnic:
that art style is awful. I like my Arthurian legends either in the Romance style or gritty and realistic. This comic-book/Warhammer style doesn't cut it for me.

Aw I like the art style :( Warhammerish is perfect way to describe it though.

The game itself looks interesting indeed, I can live with crappy and inconcistent voice acting, but the draw backs of the gameplay itself looks like the kind of things I might want to pull out my hair in anger and scream at my screen. It's a shame, really, the game looked interesting.

I hated battles in the first King Arthur. It ended up being "capture the irrelevant points of interests" rather than actual battles. I wanted an actual battle a la Total War instead of a cheap multiplayer capture the point gameplay.

Is this still the case? Because I couldn't even finish King Arthur 1 with that god awful battle set up.

i dont get why its just england, why not middle east seeing how theres where christianity started? its why its all convoluted. lord of the rings makes sense because its not based on real world

In short, it's ass.
Don't know where they got the devs for this but they have no fucking clue, every part of the game feels like it's glued together with gum and ready to fall off at any time.
And when there were issues with performance the devs come out with a public statement that anything above 20FPS is fine... where the fuck do you find these retards, who pays these drunken monkeys to make games.

Ultratwinkie:
I hated battles in the first King Arthur. It ended up being "capture the irrelevant points of interests" rather than actual battles. I wanted an actual battle a la Total War instead of a cheap multiplayer capture the point gameplay.

Is this still the case? Because I couldn't even finish King Arthur 1 with that god awful battle set up.

You're in luck then. VPs give access to bonus spells you can use in the battle but there is no win condition related to them.

So far most people seem annoyed at this removal then they are pleased with it though, so if theres a ka3 i'd expect it to make a return then.

The changes from King Arthur 1-2 is pretty much:

Positive:
Air units.
Lots of new units overall.
No VPs Capture needed.
Diplomacy.

Negative:
Tier System.
No Freedom.
Heroes are much more set into their roles.
Limited recruitment and only 3 armies allowed (You also don't have these from the start, you get them as you go along)
No income except from fighting.
The resource system is also just gold now, and there is no upkeep cost.
Imbalanced Meteor spell...(When you can wipe out an entire army with 1 hero in the first minute of a battle it is bad... Especially since you can just continue summoning them until they are all dead.)
Inconsistent and in many cases, Bad Narrator.
Morality system now only affects units and 4 spells(One for each morality)

Basically. This is less Total War now and more Warhammer: Mark of Chaos. There is almost no freedom nor is there any strategy when not in battle. You like linear. Then this is for you.

Vamast:
i dont get why its just england, why not middle east seeing how theres where christianity started? its why its all convoluted.

Sounds like an odd criticism of a King Arthur game. Arthurian legend is about as deeply rooted in English lore as you can get. Inasmuch as it's about Christianity, it's about the birth of English Christianity. You want quests to the Holy Land, you need to go medieval and look at the crusades or something.

Vamast:
i dont get why its just england, why not middle east seeing how theres where christianity started? its why its all convoluted. lord of the rings makes sense because its not based on real world

Because the King Arthur legend is "just England" to the best of my knowlege.

Edit: Ninja'd.

Vamast:
i dont get why its just england, why not middle east seeing how theres where christianity started? its why its all convoluted. lord of the rings makes sense because its not based on real world

It's King Arthur though. Those legends are firmly rooted in Britain.

Ultratwinkie:
I hated battles in the first King Arthur. It ended up being "capture the irrelevant points of interests" rather than actual battles. I wanted an actual battle a la Total War instead of a cheap multiplayer capture the point gameplay.

Is this still the case? Because I couldn't even finish King Arthur 1 with that god awful battle set up.

They're less important, though you certainly still want to control them simply to keep them out of enemy hands. The biggest problem I ran into with them is when the game pulls a "gotcha" on you. "Oh, you thought that weakly rated army with 1/2 dead troops would be a push over. Surprise they spawn right next to two Lightning Bolt locations!"

It's fairly rare and certainly makes you need to adapt your tactics, but it's still really annoying. More so in that you have no way of surveying the battlefield beforehand to bring the right troops for that.

Damn I preordered this game a while back on steam (didn't get round to playing because of work).

Was going to give it a try this weekend, wish i hadn't bought it now

What's with the low video quality?

I guess I'll stick to a more refined RTS experience like Shogun 2 instead then.

I'm still interested in this game. But I guess I'll wait till it is on discount!

Vamast:
i dont get why its just england, why not middle east seeing how theres where christianity started? its why its all convoluted. lord of the rings makes sense because its not based on real world

You understand what the story of King Arthur is right?

If you listen a lot to audio books, you'll eventually get so used to a baritone man reading women's lines in an effeminate voice that you don't even think about it.

Looks like the developers of King Arthur 1 didn't do much to change their formula...

Anyone actually play king arthur 1? Biggest waste of $10 ever (got the collection over steam black friday sale last year) I thought it would be an RPG with some total war elements. What I got was civilization without the armies... Don't get me started on the morale system...

Frank_Sinatra_:
I guess I'll stick to a more refined RTS experience like Shogun 2 instead then.

My thoughts exactly. There's also Might & Magic: Heroes VI, which isn't a bad game at all.

if this is english christianiy, why do they pray to bethlahem and jerewlasem in church?

Vamast:
if this is english christianiy, why do they pray to bethlahem and jerewlasem in church?

Srsly? You need an answer to that? Er - because they're Christians and so they believe Jesus was born in Bethlehem and died in Jerusalem (sp). You know - like people do today. Like that bloke in the big dress in Italy.

Vamast:
if this is english christianiy, why do they pray to bethlahem and jerewlasem in church?

I'm trying to figure out what on Earth you mean by this. Bethlehem and Jerusalem are places and nobody prays "to" them. Some may go on pilgramage to pray "at" them but this is far from being a requirement of the faith. It's not like Christianity has it's own version of the Hajj.

The myth of King Arthur (yes folks, it's not real) is about warring kingdoms during the Anglo-Saxon era of Great Britain. During this period there was a large divide religiously throughout Britain. The Romans had brought over Christianity previously but there were still a lot of Pagan practitioners. It was only until Æthelberht of Kent converted to Christianity that it really started to become popular. So throughout the game you'll be torn between choosing one or the other as it was a major political issue at the time.

The game isn't about Christianity nor Paganism, it just happens to be set within a tumultuous period of Britian in terms of religion, and practically everything else.

Vamast:
i dont get why its just england, why not middle east seeing how theres where christianity started? its why its all convoluted. lord of the rings makes sense because its not based on real world

the company that makes king arthur neocore games already has done 2 middle east games. crusaders:thy kingdom come and the kings crusade.

the game covers england because its about the king arthur legend not about christianity in general.

ive always found it interesting that despite being an english myth there are a lot of french names, etc in the legend. i do wonder if its a mixture of english and french legends

nikki191:

ive always found it interesting that despite being an english myth there are a lot of french names, etc in the legend. i do wonder if its a mixture of english and french legends

The names could have been added or localised during Norman rule.

so king kent believes on old fairy tales of the desert and guides people/his kingdom in the magical powers on jesus and belief of a higher power and salvation?

Vamast:
so king kent believes on old fairy tales of the desert and guides people/his kingdom in the magical powers on jesus and belief of a higher power and salvation?

Right then, time to just hang up the hat and go home. You either don't understand the basics of the history of that period and Christianity and need to read up on them, or you're trolling.

If A: Just ask, and kind forum-goers and I can try and break it down for you to try and erase any misunderstandings. It's always good to teach others about history.

If B: You should probably stop that.

Black rock shooter makes more sense...

Vamast:
Black rock shooter makes more sense...

2/10. Needs work.

constantimople shall always be regarded as the captial of all christianity?

Why is there a religious history debate here.
WHY.

Anyways, I loved the first game, and I would love this one too, if only my computer would let me. Silly broken graphics card.

hm can get the lot all dlcs and KA1 on steam for 13$ right now is it worth that?

 

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