Jimquisition: Mass Effect 3: A Gay Erotic Love Story

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Xanthious:
Hey those are just options. They wouldn't affect your Shepard. You dont like em don't use em. As for being illega, well we illegal things in games all the time so I fail to see how that's relevant. What you and those like you are really saying though isn't let's be open minded and accommodate all sorts of different people but rather simply just to accommodate you and those like you while everyone else can piss off.

Well, if you fail to see the difference between consensual sex between two dudes and an adult having sex with a minor, i don't think we can do anything for you mate.

I'm trying to understand how this is going to help reduce homophobia. Yeah, I get it- a joke, irony, but still. Were there really no better options?

5ilver:
I'm trying to understand how this is going to help reduce homophobia. Yeah, I get it- a joke, irony, but still. Were there really no better options?

Wait, was he trying to do that? If so, boy this is a shitty vid. Here i thought he just wanted to have a laugh.

Vault101:

Volf:

Rainboq:
That's rape, not homosexuality. Homosexuality is simply being attracted to another of the same sex, how one acts based on that has nothing to do with homosexuality itself, but rather the individuals past experiences.

And why not, what's wrong with a phallus?

You made a sweeping generalization that homosexuality has never hurt anybody, I called bs because it has(i.e. people have committed crimes because of it). Now I'm not saying that all homosexuals are bad people(because their not) just that it is ignorant of you to say that no homosexual has ever hurt anybody because their homosexual.

actually isnt most prison rape less about "homosexualisty" and more about well..I dont know dominance and such,,liek they probably wouldnt be gay outside of prison...

anyway Im still not seeing the issue here...you could play ME3 WITHOUT any homosexual activity what so ever

and say if a gay charachter does hit on your shepard..it will prbably be a few seconds of dialouge and nothign else..

also the only reasonm femshep can be "gay" is because they had Liara and couldnt "go back" on how assari are suposed to be..I don know why they cut the romance with ashly but kept the one with liara..but they cut the gay relationship with ash for the same reason they did kaiden...I guessing to e PC or somthing

plus do you have a problem with with femshep "technically" being able to be bi?

I didn't make a comment about the option for being gay, I made a comment about a sweeping generalization.

Volf:

Thyunda:

Volf:
It's still his image, and he should have final say over that. Actually if Bioware really want this option in the first game, why not just get a model that was ok with it?

Then identical twins should control what the other appears in.
You really don't think it's a bit petty to be upset that a virtual man who merely LOOKS like you happens to possibly have a taste for cock?

No I don't think its wrong for a person to have human feelings about how their digital image is being depicted.

Its just like if (hypothetically) the model Jacqui Ainsley didn't like being portrait as a women willing to use her body, I wouldn't try to minimize her feelings.

That's totally different. That's portraying a person as something they're not. But you see, there's this thing called 'acting'. And, since this is a digital representation of a person NOT INTENDED TO BE THE ACTOR, then I can't see any problem with how it's used. Especially since he's not a very distinctive person. If he was instantly recognisable from the image, and it was used as a slight against him, I'd understand it. But to get upset because you're a motion capture for a possibly gay character?
It's not him. It just looks like him. It has no relation to him. It's Captain Shepard. It'd be like saying Gerard Butler is without a doubt a murderer because you saw him in Law Abiding Citizen once. Only...this is actually more far-fetched.

Tanakh:

Therumancer:
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I am not particulary trilled by a gay shepard, my problem is that it feels like retconning. I also don't like the video, between EA's buisness practices and the whole Hepler's issue, gay shep feels like the less important of ME3 you can talk.

That said, if you are going to have a "romance" option on a videogame and it includes woman-man, woman-alien woman, man-woman; it's only natural to have man-man, it has nothing to do with left or right wings or with entitlement, with your players being gay or straight (I like pussy, not even going to say women, because at this point in life I am just looking for their body without any commitment due me sucking hard when i try to commit; but as an ex-tabletop RPG veteran i have played both girls and guys with every sexual orientation quite well, or at least thats what the other players tell me). It has nothing to do with being entitled, lesbians are even less common than gays and you didn't saw this for the fem shep on hot pice of blue ass action, it just makes it has more choices and be more free, maybe deeper for some RPG plots, to have a gay shep.

As for being liberal... that might be, but not because liberals are soo interested in what their male voters do with their asses, instead it has more to do with republicans being interested in such subjects; liberals don't run on "you have the right of inserting a dick up your ass", it's republicans that run on the "gays are evelspaws trying to destroy our lifestyle" forcing liberals to take a stand on that (and surprisingly the normaly pussy liberals grow the balls to take a stand there).

As for the 0.1% gays, shrug, as a teen always thought the 30% gay pop that gays say was way over the top, that it was 1% was more the right number. Then went to study math, and there, among my math friends 23% is gay so... no wonder math keeps it's population low! lolz.

Summarizing, I agree with you, but not with your reasons, actually think they are wrong :P

Edit: Also OMFG! As a non english speaker nor gay dude, the use of the sustantives in such ways!!!! Silky.... WTF... my ears -.-''
Didn't liked it, but good work Jim.

Jim was actually trying to use just about every porn-novel clique he could in there, it was kind of funny. Most of those metaphor could have been applied to any sexual situation involving a guy with either gender. People assume because I'm anti-gay men, that I'm ignorant, but truthfully due to my reasons for my outlook I'm more familiar with the whole set of cultures than most people in them are. As far as such things go Jim could probably play that speil as proof that he isn't gay since other than the insertsion of some gay innuendo and popular character names there was nothing to do. It's probably a contender for worst gay porno ever created (in jest or not).

That said, when it comes to the numbers, I've looked into this more than most people would be comfortable with. Both as a victim of child molestation (when I was six) myself and things I leaned during Code Adam training, etc... I've spent a lot of time looking into it and my position has waffled between a few axises over the years before settling on gays and lesbians being differant issues, and being solidly anti-gay men (which I won't go into at length here). Your correct that statistics can be made to lie, and I've made that arguement myself on certain kinds of propaganda from other sides, but when it comes to things like overall numbers you can figure out where they tend to fall pretty easily.

The current gay claims that like 20% to 30% of people are homosexual are bunk, even if they make for good liberal propaganda, and they go through a lot of work to make it seem like these numbers could be true. This is one of the reasons why you see so much effort to force the media to include gay characters in dramas and such. To put things into perspective if between 1 out of 5 to 1 out of 3 people on the planet were gay there never would have been issues with oppression that's just too many people to oppress and force into hiding through most of history. With a representitive population that loud there would not be issues with one person being too scared to help others, and simply the intertia of property ownership and business would have altered things. Even 1% would be pushing it because that's 1 out of every 100 people, which would still represent a minority too numberous to keep down this way. To put things into perspectives Jews have typically had tiny populations within the nations they have inhabited, and even being hated, they have wound up representing a substantial force within society that couldn't just be ignored, while forced into hiding at specific times, they always returned in force. The point is 1% is too many for things to have been "forced into the closet through fear". The Nazis made an active effort to hunt down homosexuals, and while they got bunches of them culumatively, the numbers just weren't that big compared to other minorities they were hunting down, despite some attempts nowadys to inflate it.

One out of a thousand or ten thousand is more accurate as a ballpark because that's enough to be forced totally underground by society, even when drawing together in small groups due to similar interests. It's also fairly representitive of the numbers collected during the more effective gay purges that have been attempted. The Nazis aren't the boogie men of humanity because they sucked at hunting their targets down for example.

Now of course, there are points that can be made in response about the amount of homosexuality recorded at specific times, such as during the twilight years of the Roman Empire. However homosexuality *IS* a medical condition tied to chemicals (as is sexual attraction in general) and the human biological system. We don't understand everything about sexuality, but we do know the basics, and why things like castration work (by removing organs that help receive and process chemical signals). Some people can be born reacting to transmissions of their own gender, or perhaps processing chemicals wrong in their brain due to other problems, and others might wind up there due to outside stimulus such as injury, enviroment, diet, etc... not everything is understood perfectly, but it's likely that something about the enviroment of some of these more decadent nations at the time whether it be food, some kind of disease that altered the biology, but didn't persist into modern times, or whatever could have lead to the increase in that condition to a higher point than other periods of history.

The point is there is an effort made to make it LOOK like gays are everywhere, but that's hardly the case. It's not hard to find gay people if you seek them out (given that it's no longer forced underground) but at the same time it's possible to go to pretty large gatherings of people and not have one present at all, simply by the numbers, not due to any active attempt to keep them out.

As far as Mass Effect goes, what you are talking about IS entitlement though. See if your saying that they have all of these othr sexual behaviors (hetero, alien, lesbian) they need to have gay men too, that's entitlement by definition... when you say they HAVE or NEED to be represented. What's more, by that logic your argueing that every sexual deviation NEEDS to be covered if any are going to be. In this case "deviation" is anything other than the norm, which is homosexuality of either flavor. See, to a gay man what he is, is normal, but the same can be said of someone into say scat, extreme bondage, or a furry or whatever. Saying that the gay man should be able to find appropriate content that stimulates him is like saying that there should be an option to have Kelly ride Shepard around his quarters with a riding crop for those submissives out there who can't get it off any other way, or scat play as an option added into the romantic dialogues, or getting Miranda to enter the bedroom in a Girrafe themed fursuit, or whatever.... it never ends, which is why a minority should never be considered entitled to anything, if the writers put something there so be it, if not then just let it go, leave it to them, not political demands.

To be entirely blunt while I appreciate the sexual/adult content in games, I also don't think a general adventure game like this needs to be turned into a sexual carnival, and when you follow this logic through that's what you get because it goes from being a sideline to a major area of development with more thought than it warrents. Everyone has their kinks, I don't think many people want to hear about the nasty little things I'd love to do to Kelly or Liara with a Shepard of either gender BUT I'm not going to go out there insisting that Bioware cater to my hang ups. Likewise if I was playing a game with a romantic subplot and there were no options for me, I'd just ignore it, say if there was only gay men present in a game, I wouldn't sit there and say "noes! we need you to redo the game just for me!" well unless it was grossing me out enough where I'd just not play the game.

That said from what I've seen (though I have yet to play it) all the liberals should probablty forget about Mass Effect and go protest "Bonecraft". I mean it won't happen because it won't get the same platform that Mass Effect gives (and this is all about attention the end, and trying to make gays seem like a bigger deal than they are), but really that represents the issues more than Mass Effect does. Bonecraft is based largely around heterosexual and lesbian action, and from what I've seen the gay men (very stereotypically flaming gay male elves) are the bad guys who you are encouraged to kill as one of the enemy factions. That should be an issue because Sex is the *point* of that game unlike Mass effect. Of course it won't happen, because as I mentioned it's too limited a platform to make a good show, and I'd imagine the guys doing the political QQing realize what idiots it would make them look like for the attempt. :)

Wow Jim, just.... wow. You seem to have a promising career as an erotic (and gay) novelist. Best of luck to you!

That wasn't clever, at all. And this is coming from someone who agree's that people making a big deal about ME3's Male on Male romance options is idiotic.

370999:
snip

Thanks, with your totally called for, clever and non-condescending approval I can now live my life to it's fullest! Aces to that!

You should feel as good about yourself as you think you should. You deserve it. :) Really, a class act!

Anyway

Back on topic, I think a lot of fans have been clamoring about the gayness for no reason. It's purely optional, so I think it's silly.

I just hope the team handles it tastefully unlike in DA2. That game's romanced were like they were written by one of those slash fic gals.

Tanakh:

secretsantaone:
Foot fetishists are fairly common too, do we need a foot sex scene?

Damn it! Stop with the fetish suggestions or you will get me banned from this forums!

Also for me is like having a vegetarian dish in the menu, I will probably skip it because buying veggies in a fine restaurant is for suckers, but always nice to see it.

Not if it comes at the expense of a poorer quality game.

Thyunda:

Volf:

Thyunda:

Then identical twins should control what the other appears in.
You really don't think it's a bit petty to be upset that a virtual man who merely LOOKS like you happens to possibly have a taste for cock?

No I don't think its wrong for a person to have human feelings about how their digital image is being depicted.

Its just like if (hypothetically) the model Jacqui Ainsley didn't like being portrait as a women willing to use her body, I wouldn't try to minimize her feelings.

That's totally different. That's portraying a person as something they're not. But you see, there's this thing called 'acting'. And, since this is a digital representation of a person NOT INTENDED TO BE THE ACTOR, then I can't see any problem with how it's used. Especially since he's not a very distinctive person. If he was instantly recognisable from the image, and it was used as a slight against him, I'd understand it. But to get upset because you're a motion capture for a possibly gay character?
It's not him. It just looks like him. It has no relation to him. It's Captain Shepard. It'd be like saying Gerard Butler is without a doubt a murderer because you saw him in Law Abiding Citizen once. Only...this is actually more far-fetched.

As I said before, the man's feeling should be respected, even if you don't agree with them. You obviously think he is over reacting, fine, that's your opinion. But it's not asking to much to respect the mans feelings.

Volf:

Vault101:

Volf:
You made a sweeping generalization that homosexuality has never hurt anybody, I called bs because it has(i.e. people have committed crimes because of it). Now I'm not saying that all homosexuals are bad people(because their not) just that it is ignorant of you to say that no homosexual has ever hurt anybody because their homosexual.

bi?

I didn't make a comment about the option for being gay, I made a comment about a sweeping generalization.

well you seem to have a problem with the whole thing

secretsantaone:

Tanakh:

secretsantaone:
Foot fetishists are fairly common too, do we need a foot sex scene?

Damn it! Stop with the fetish suggestions or you will get me banned from this forums!

Also for me is like having a vegetarian dish in the menu, I will probably skip it because buying veggies in a fine restaurant is for suckers, but always nice to see it.

Not if it comes at the expense of a poorer quality game.

for fucks sake...its not going to ruin the game...in previous games you could bang aliens now if that didnt ruin the game (which surprise surprise it didnt) then I dont see how shepard having a 30 second scene with another man is going to ruin the game

The Pinray:

370999:
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Thanks, with your totally called for, clever and non-condescending approval I can now live my life to it's fullest! Aces to that!

You should feel as good about yourself as you think you should. You deserve it. :) Really, a class act!

Err.. I did find it funny. Like what you said, I laughed at. I'm sorry if ti came off the other way.

secretsantaone:
Not if it comes at the expense of a poorer quality game.

Which is why this game shouldn't have gotten it, because it IS freaking retconning and retcons are cheap. But if the next Bioware game includes gay options from the beggining of the arc of the character, what would be the problem?

Volf:

Thyunda:

Volf:
No I don't think its wrong for a person to have human feelings about how their digital image is being depicted.

Its just like if (hypothetically) the model Jacqui Ainsley didn't like being portrait as a women willing to use her body, I wouldn't try to minimize her feelings.

That's totally different. That's portraying a person as something they're not. But you see, there's this thing called 'acting'. And, since this is a digital representation of a person NOT INTENDED TO BE THE ACTOR, then I can't see any problem with how it's used. Especially since he's not a very distinctive person. If he was instantly recognisable from the image, and it was used as a slight against him, I'd understand it. But to get upset because you're a motion capture for a possibly gay character?
It's not him. It just looks like him. It has no relation to him. It's Captain Shepard. It'd be like saying Gerard Butler is without a doubt a murderer because you saw him in Law Abiding Citizen once. Only...this is actually more far-fetched.

As I said before, the man's feeling should be respected, even if you don't agree with them. You obviously think he is over reacting, fine, that's your opinion. But it's not asking to much to respect the mans feelings.

I just think he should chill out, is all I'm saying.

You are a king amongst men, truly.

Thank God for Jim Sterling.

370999:

The Pinray:

370999:
snip

Thanks, with your totally called for, clever and non-condescending approval I can now live my life to it's fullest! Aces to that!

You should feel as good about yourself as you think you should. You deserve it. :) Really, a class act!

Err.. I did find it funny. Like what you said, I laughed at. I'm sorry if ti came off the other way.

Sorry, hard to convey tone online. I was mostly back-teasing, anyway. :)

I couldn't finish the video. It might've turned me gay.

Therumancer:

Tanakh:

Therumancer:
-snip-

I am not particulary trilled by a gay shepard, my problem is that it feels like retconning. I also don't like the video, between EA's buisness practices and the whole Hepler's issue, gay shep feels like the less important of ME3 you can talk.

That said, if you are going to have a "romance" option on a videogame and it includes woman-man, woman-alien woman, man-woman; it's only natural to have man-man, it has nothing to do with left or right wings or with entitlement, with your players being gay or straight (I like pussy, not even going to say women, because at this point in life I am just looking for their body without any commitment due me sucking hard when i try to commit; but as an ex-tabletop RPG veteran i have played both girls and guys with every sexual orientation quite well, or at least thats what the other players tell me). It has nothing to do with being entitled, lesbians are even less common than gays and you didn't saw this for the fem shep on hot pice of blue ass action, it just makes it has more choices and be more free, maybe deeper for some RPG plots, to have a gay shep.

As for being liberal... that might be, but not because liberals are soo interested in what their male voters do with their asses, instead it has more to do with republicans being interested in such subjects; liberals don't run on "you have the right of inserting a dick up your ass", it's republicans that run on the "gays are evelspaws trying to destroy our lifestyle" forcing liberals to take a stand on that (and surprisingly the normaly pussy liberals grow the balls to take a stand there).

As for the 0.1% gays, shrug, as a teen always thought the 30% gay pop that gays say was way over the top, that it was 1% was more the right number. Then went to study math, and there, among my math friends 23% is gay so... no wonder math keeps it's population low! lolz.

Summarizing, I agree with you, but not with your reasons, actually think they are wrong :P

Edit: Also OMFG! As a non english speaker nor gay dude, the use of the sustantives in such ways!!!! Silky.... WTF... my ears -.-''
Didn't liked it, but good work Jim.

:)

so you say your "anti-gay"....does that mean you think gays should be "cured" in some way or another?

anyway I dont see why its a big deal, persoanlly I dont see this as "catering to a specifi group" I see it more as allowing more options for shepard..both in charachter and romance options

Vault101:

Volf:

Vault101:

bi?

I didn't make a comment about the option for being gay, I made a comment about a sweeping generalization.

well you seem to have a problem with the whole thing

secretsantaone:

Tanakh:

Damn it! Stop with the fetish suggestions or you will get me banned from this forums!

Also for me is like having a vegetarian dish in the menu, I will probably skip it because buying veggies in a fine restaurant is for suckers, but always nice to see it.

Not if it comes at the expense of a poorer quality game.

for fucks sake...its not going to ruin the game...in previous games you could bang aliens now if that didnt ruin the game (which surprise surprise it didnt) then I dont see how shepard having a 30 second scene with another man is going to ruin the game

I have a problem with people making sweeping generalizations.

Thyunda:

Volf:

Thyunda:

That's totally different. That's portraying a person as something they're not. But you see, there's this thing called 'acting'. And, since this is a digital representation of a person NOT INTENDED TO BE THE ACTOR, then I can't see any problem with how it's used. Especially since he's not a very distinctive person. If he was instantly recognisable from the image, and it was used as a slight against him, I'd understand it. But to get upset because you're a motion capture for a possibly gay character?
It's not him. It just looks like him. It has no relation to him. It's Captain Shepard. It'd be like saying Gerard Butler is without a doubt a murderer because you saw him in Law Abiding Citizen once. Only...this is actually more far-fetched.

As I said before, the man's feeling should be respected, even if you don't agree with them. You obviously think he is over reacting, fine, that's your opinion. But it's not asking to much to respect the mans feelings.

I just think he should chill out, is all I'm saying.

I realize that is how you feel, but I think the man has a right to have feelings on this matter just like Ms Ainsley would have a right to have feelings about how she was portrait.

Volf:

Thyunda:

Volf:
As I said before, the man's feeling should be respected, even if you don't agree with them. You obviously think he is over reacting, fine, that's your opinion. But it's not asking to much to respect the mans feelings.

I just think he should chill out, is all I'm saying.

I realize that is how you feel, but I think the man has a right to have feelings on this matter just like Ms Ainsley would have a right to have feelings about how she was portrait.

Portrayed, surely?

And it's still objectively wrong to destroy a whole series of narrative potential because you didn't want people to think you might fancy a bit of bum.

Thyunda:

Volf:

Thyunda:

I just think he should chill out, is all I'm saying.

I realize that is how you feel, but I think the man has a right to have feelings on this matter just like Ms Ainsley would have a right to have feelings about how she was portrait.

Portrayed, surely?

And it's still objectively wrong to destroy a whole series of narrative potential because you didn't want people to think you might fancy a bit of bum.

damn spell check!

...your opinion is that he should chill out, but your using the word "objectively".....what?

Volf:

Thyunda:

Volf:
I realize that is how you feel, but I think the man has a right to have feelings on this matter just like Ms Ainsley would have a right to have feelings about how she was portrait.

Portrayed, surely?

And it's still objectively wrong to destroy a whole series of narrative potential because you didn't want people to think you might fancy a bit of bum.

damn spell check!

...your opinion is that he should chill out, but your using the word "objectively".....what?

No, no, destruction of narrative potential is objectively wrong. That's not an opinion, that's fact, that.

Vault101:

Volf:

Vault101:

bi?

I didn't make a comment about the option for being gay, I made a comment about a sweeping generalization.

well you seem to have a problem with the whole thing

secretsantaone:

Tanakh:

Damn it! Stop with the fetish suggestions or you will get me banned from this forums!

Also for me is like having a vegetarian dish in the menu, I will probably skip it because buying veggies in a fine restaurant is for suckers, but always nice to see it.

Not if it comes at the expense of a poorer quality game.

for fucks sake...its not going to ruin the game...in previous games you could bang aliens now if that didnt ruin the game (which surprise surprise it didnt) then I dont see how shepard having a 30 second scene with another man is going to ruin the game

Because it's not a 30 second scene. It's a series of dialogue trees, written scenarios, coding, animations, voice acting and testing, all of which takes up a lot of development time. Development time which could have been spent adding more content or improving on existing content.

Add into that the excuses Bioware will have to write up due to not making any mention of it in the previous 2 games, the possibilities of falsely initiating it just by being friendly ala DA2 and the obvious pandering to knee-jerk accusations of homophobia, it all seems more trouble than it's worth. Does the gay community now feel vindicated because a virtual character can stick it up a guys arse?

Would the Day 1 dlc have been in the main game if Bioware didn't feel they had to put a gay romance in?

I spit Kool-Aid on my screen when he said "dick-sucking lips."

That was... I'm not a mass effect fan, but I'll admit it, I fapped.

Thyunda:

Volf:

Thyunda:

Portrayed, surely?

And it's still objectively wrong to destroy a whole series of narrative potential because you didn't want people to think you might fancy a bit of bum.

damn spell check!

...your opinion is that he should chill out, but your using the word "objectively".....what?

No, no, destruction of narrative potential is objectively wrong. That's not an opinion, that's fact, that.

Being forced to do something that you find uncomfortable is also wrong.

Also I don't think that the ME series would be seriously affected if there was no gay option.

Fan-Fucking-Tastic! But alas, sadly I lack a gay boner, even in the radiance of our God given Jim Sterling.

On the topic of gay Mass Effect fan works, search for the following artists if you are in the mood to fuck up your mind.

Chillchell
Narse
Norah_Enilem
Beralin
Consensus
Raynorium
Todex
And TaoRen...

Ah fuck it, go to paheal and kill every last brain cell you have, yah bunch of wankers.

secretsantaone:

Vault101:

Volf:
I didn't make a comment about the option for being gay, I made a comment about a sweeping generalization.

well you seem to have a problem with the whole thing

secretsantaone:

Not if it comes at the expense of a poorer quality game.

for fucks sake...its not going to ruin the game...in previous games you could bang aliens now if that didnt ruin the game (which surprise surprise it didnt) then I dont see how shepard having a 30 second scene with another man is going to ruin the game

Because it's not a 30 second scene. It's a series of dialogue trees, written scenarios, coding, animations, voice acting and testing, all of which takes up a lot of development time. Development time which could have been spent adding more content or improving on existing content.

Add into that the excuses Bioware will have to write up due to not making any mention of it in the previous 2 games, the possibilities of falsely initiating it just by being friendly ala DA2 and the obvious pandering to knee-jerk accusations of homophobia, it all seems more trouble than it's worth. Does the gay community now feel vindicated because a virtual character can stick it up a guys arse?

Would the Day 1 dlc have been in the main game if Bioware didn't feel they had to put a gay romance in?

this isnt a major retcon..actually as far as ashley/femshep (or maleshep and kaiden) its not such a huge stretch of logic

So, I don't get it. Is there a movement saying that Mass Effect 3 will turn you gay? Because otherwise I don't see the joke.

Hilarious, and amazing and fitting music. Dat FFIX soundtrack.
EDIT: Realised that all Jimquisition has FFIX music (at least that I know of). Now I feel silly.

I've never liked Jim, but this was just brilliant. I must give credit where credit is due.

Bravo.

Saulkar:
Fan-Fucking-Tastic! But alas, sadly I lack a gay boner, even in the radiance of our God given Jim Sterling.

On the topic of gay Mass Effect fan works, search for the following artists if you are in the mood to fuck up your mind.

Chillchell
Narse
Norah_Enilem
Beralin
Consensus
Raynorium
Todex
And TaoRen...

Ah fuck it, go to paheal and kill every last brain cell you have, yah bunch of wankers.

You are quite versed in alien sex, I am truly frightened and fascinated.

Volf:

Thyunda:

Volf:
damn spell check!

...your opinion is that he should chill out, but your using the word "objectively".....what?

No, no, destruction of narrative potential is objectively wrong. That's not an opinion, that's fact, that.

Being forced to do something that you find uncomfortable is also wrong.

.

BUT...YOU....WONT....BE....

at all

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