Mass Effect 3 Review

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MiracleOfSound:

18.99PlusTip:

You sound angry from reading your post, which I certainly hope your not.

I am annoyed... not at your post in particular but by the stupid assumption by many people (not just on this site) that a game they don't like getting a good review means someone was bought off.

This seems especially stupid when you remember it's the final chapter of one of the most critically acclaimed series of all time. OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews. It's an incredible experience for most people who play it, despite its flaws.

18.99PlusTip:

I'm just trying to make sure people understand WHY people are skeptical and reinforce this isn't some "nasty reddit troll" personal attack.
It's a legitimate concern. There is a huge discrepancy between critics and a large chunk normal customers as of late.

I completely understand.

But the problem is people don't seem to be taking Susan's word for it when she explains her side, which annoys the shit out of me. If people want to throw snide insinuations around they should be prepared to give benefit of the doubt.

And any argument about advertising 'influencing' the staff and all that jazz is rendered utterly void in my mind by the fact that every week the site's most popular show takes the absolute piss out of the same developers and games advertised here, sometimes viciously so.

"OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews." In my book, good games get good reviews and rubbish games get rubbish reviews.

I've been alive over 40 years, been a gamer since 1979. Now I accepted Susan's answer to my own question, and I accept her opinion of the game and reasons for giving it a high score. I read the review - it reads like a hate out of ten review imo not the score it got, but a good review nontheless. In all my years gaming I've never accepted "OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews" for any game though, I doubt I ever will.

As far as I'm concerned, we've had a lot of lacklustre games over the last couple of years just because of the "OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews" attitude a lot of gaming media have. Yes, we've had some good games but they haven't been as good as they could have been, and most haven't lived up to the promise the hype would have us believe. The likes of Jim and Yahtzee have made careers commenting on how stagnant the AAA games have become, and I can't imagine either ever saying "OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews" without a certain amount of cynicism. Meanwhile, publishers will keep pushing out the same old crap while "OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews" actually gives them decent reviews that fool enough gamers into buying the product.

I played ME3 for a bit today and my opinion was that it's nothing special - very average. If I had Kinect I'd have liked a voice command for "don't roll there" too. Mind, I don't like intense games, and I was finding ME3 much more intense than I expected and therefore not much fun.

Ridrith:
I will never forgive them, unless they release a new DLC ending that is used as the proper canon for the storyline and lore.

Which I'll bet has been their plan since the beginning. EA should write a book: "How to double to triple the price of your games without the consumer really complaining about it." If somebody tried to release a version of ME3 that was all you had dreamed but wanted 150 bucks for it, all but the most stalwart fans (who would ask where there CE was with the who gives a funk action figure, Tali love pillow, and of course the obligitory art book or CD.) would tell EA to take a hike.

Yet by "subtly" changing the model, now they can do just that and actually have people and institutions that say they honestly care about games defend their flat out greed with a straight face. All for a product that it says right there in the EULA, you don't actually own.

sir.rutthed:

MiracleOfSound:

18.99PlusTip:

Come on. You're not stupid, don't just dismiss any skepticism as "conspiracy theory".

But that's exactly what it is. How dare you accuse someone of being corrupt without even a shred of evidence?

I know for a fact from private conversations that Susan loved ME3, as do I. Not because it suits us, but because it's fantastic fucking game. We're both huge fans of the series. NO one wopuld be more disappointed if it were shit.

I wonder what you lot will say if Yahtzee tears ME3 apart like he's done other Bioware games?

You'll probably say Activision paid him to shit on it.

Posts like this make me kinda wish the Escapist had upvotes, cuz I'd give em to ya. Preach it, brother!

The.Bard:

Susan Arendt:
You realize there's no way for me to answer that question that will "disprove" your theory, right? If I say we don't get ad money from EA, you can say we're bumping up scores to try to persuade them to spend some. If I say we do, then clearly we're bumping up scores to keep the money flowing. If you're determined to believe that we're dishonest - which, frankly, many people are - then there's really nothing we can do about it.

[snip]

Either someone chooses to give us the benefit of the doubt, or they don't.

It's not even worth your time, Susan. If the internet is still in this big of a hateful denial that ME3 isn't the sucky Bioware-destroying game they've been praying it would be for the last two years, your logic will do nothing but evaporate like tears off of their raging red cheeks.

I doubt anything but the end of the world or extreme boredom will get them to accept that some people are capable of loving the game without being paid off. And I mean, seriously, your video review exudes excitement. You're gushing over it! I watched it at work and immediately wanted to break my own leg so I could go home and play more of it. How anyone could mistake that genuine excitement for a payoff is so far beyond me, my brain hurts contemplating it.

What I'd like to know is if Nintendo Power ever took this kind of heat. I used their reviews heavily in my decision making process back in the day. And Nintendo owned them.

It's astounding to me how ignorant this community as a whole can be. It seems no internet community is immune to some sort of 'Hive Mind' effect, and hating Bioware is the Escapist's hive mentality of choice recently. People hate their games because Bioware have the balls to try to improve on the formula and modernize the RPG, so obviously the only people who LIKE Bioware games are being paid off. It's the only reasonable explanation. And then they dump on people like Susan for liking the game they're 'supposed' to hate for no other reason than that she liked it. It's fucking disgraceful, and it's nothing more than bullying on their part. Shit like this is why I don't post more on the forums; I just can't stand the blatant flaming and pettiness of most of the community.

Yeah well we can't stand nauseating kiss asses who throw around words like "ignorant" as if it meant something purely bad and if anyone disagrees with the professional anus your oralfactory senses have currently claimed practically as their ancestral home (and god FORBID they use logic in their arguments) why they deserve a sound thrashing!! (to use your amazingly labored yet still boring um, lingo?) Then again why break with long-standing Escapist tradition. Such as rabid defensiveness that on it's face causes me to raise more eyebrows than I have. (Takes practice.) Yeah, that's the real reason I left, I ran out of eyebrows....and there just wasn't enough facepalm in the universe at points....

You know what I find "disgraceful"? Something that literally shows a stunning lack of actual grace. Using profanity and name calling in a public space as part of a defensive rant, about a freaking GAME, for example.

Also let's not forget that the best outcome would have been a Mass Effect conclusion that was worthy of the overall work.

So don't feel bad, it doesn't look like a great day for anyone on that front.

Also your wrong about "everybody" (god I hate absolutist terms, problem is guys like you who bravely defend um, corporations? love em'.) hating on this game. They aren't. The truth is most real people DON'T CARE about this game. Don't inflate it's importance

drednoahl:

MiracleOfSound:

18.99PlusTip:

You sound angry from reading your post, which I certainly hope your not.

I am annoyed... not at your post in particular but by the stupid assumption by many people (not just on this site) that a game they don't like getting a good review means someone was bought off.

This seems especially stupid when you remember it's the final chapter of one of the most critically acclaimed series of all time. OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews. It's an incredible experience for most people who play it, despite its flaws.

18.99PlusTip:

I'm just trying to make sure people understand WHY people are skeptical and reinforce this isn't some "nasty reddit troll" personal attack.
It's a legitimate concern. There is a huge discrepancy between critics and a large chunk normal customers as of late.

I completely understand.

But the problem is people don't seem to be taking Susan's word for it when she explains her side, which annoys the shit out of me. If people want to throw snide insinuations around they should be prepared to give benefit of the doubt.

And any argument about advertising 'influencing' the staff and all that jazz is rendered utterly void in my mind by the fact that every week the site's most popular show takes the absolute piss out of the same developers and games advertised here, sometimes viciously so.

"OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews." In my book, good games get good reviews and rubbish games get rubbish reviews.

I've been alive over 40 years, been a gamer since 1979. Now I accepted Susan's answer to my own question, and I accept her opinion of the game and reasons for giving it a high score. I read the review - it reads like a hate out of ten review imo not the score it got, but a good review nontheless. In all my years gaming I've never accepted "OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews" for any game though, I doubt I ever will.

As far as I'm concerned, we've had a lot of lacklustre games over the last couple of years just because of the "OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews" attitude a lot of gaming media have. Yes, we've had some good games but they haven't been as good as they could have been, and most haven't lived up to the promise the hype would have us believe. The likes of Jim and Yahtzee have made careers commenting on how stagnant the AAA games have become, and I can't imagine either ever saying "OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews" without a certain amount of cynicism. Meanwhile, publishers will keep pushing out the same old crap while "OF COURSE it was going to get good reviews" actually gives them decent reviews that fool enough gamers into buying the product.

I played ME3 for a bit today and my opinion was that it's nothing special - very average. If I had Kinect I'd have liked a voice command for "don't roll there" too. Mind, I don't like intense games, and I was finding ME3 much more intense than I expected and therefore not much fun.

A very sober opinion. Mmm, whether Arendt has been bought-off is not exactly the point though. As dred notes above, there have been many very average games with gigantic flaws and weaknesses that have been given great praise by reviewers, and stunning marks. Check me3 on metacritic, I can't recall such a divergence in opinion between professional reviewers and the public since Dragon Age 2. It is great they told us, it is wonderful they told us, it is exciting fantasy they told us.

Simply, the reviewers of magazines are as a class, rating hyped games very highly. Which makes judging whether a game is really worth our time and money difficult. This calls the reviewing profession into question (and why it actually exists) and it seems they are indeed being brought off or pressured to rate hyped and big games of the industry very highly. I've read of a lot of glitches and annoyances from me3, and I'm not sure such a glitchy game should be given high marks.

Perhaps though, the scores should more factor in depth, longevity and originality (or L.O.D). That way, what is not original and a quick action-fest rates poorly. If you are done in a few days, the score drops again (Dark Souls and Shogun 2 would be examples of games with a high depth and longevity). Another space marine shooter would never score highly in originality.

I don't think I got the ending I deserved.

Other faults include:
Horrible forced morale system (


Overhyped and mediocre combat system with awful controls (oh you want to duck behind cover? Nah, that's boring, let's roll into the hungry hordes instead. You want to pick that item up? Nope, roll. Sprint? Guess what, you get to roll.).
Awful, awful, awful ending.
Too much autodialog. I felt like I was reading a somewhat dull book the majority of the time. Isn't interactivity the whole point of games?
Have I mentioned how bad the ending was?
Day 1 DLC (though this sort of **** is pretty much the norm these days).

The rest of the game was excellent but these problems dragged the whole thing from a 9 or a 10 to a 5 for me.

I just beat Mass Effect 3 barely 30 minutes ago and all I have to say is...wow... the music, the gameplay, the characters. This game IS a true work of art and a masterpiece. I could go back and do the side quests I didn't get around to doing and see if anything turns out different. But I'm not going to. Because this game has done one thing that no other game has. Left me completely and utterly satisfied with how the story ended.

Commander Shepard, I salute you.

Freechoice:
They didn't get rid of the planet scanning mechanic? Jesus Christ.

If you took time to READ and WATCH the video youll know they dumb it down to ridiculess levels.

I still cant beleave people just want to hate on this game. ITS A GOOD GAME! We finely have a game thats not only action packed but SMART! has a interactive story and being just really awesome! The only lagitmet reason i see for hating this game is "From ashes" But its useless! and yet people keep acting like it changes the entier game when in realty it had SO little to do with the main plot. I don't agree with the DLC but its nothing that should hold people back from just buying the game.

Really if your worried about day 1 DLC don't buy anything from Capcom or Ubisoft I'd give Bioware a free pass on this JUST for having a nice neat wrap up to sheperds story. Heres hoping for Mass effect 4!

I pretty much agree with her review but i get the feeling she hadnt finished the game. the ending is really something people need to be warned about

nikki191:
I pretty much agree with her review but i get the feeling she hadnt finished the game. the ending is really something people need to be warned about

why?

Leoofmoon:

Freechoice:
They didn't get rid of the planet scanning mechanic? Jesus Christ.

If you took time to READ and WATCH the video youll know they dumb it down to ridiculess levels.

No they didn't dumb it down, they changed it to be less annoying.

nikki191:
I pretty much agree with her review but i get the feeling she hadnt finished the game. the ending is really something people need to be warned about

As I've already said, several times, I finished the game. I didn't like the ending, but didn't think it invalidated the 35 hours of enjoyment that came before it.

Ok, I know nobody cares, but I might buy ME3
It was heavy 2 days of thinking
Yes ME2, was worse than ME1, but it was still good
It wasn't bad
Especially when thinking about alternatives
It was similar situation as with DeusEx and DeusEx:IW
Invisible War was good game, but it was not good DE game (and I liked both)
Same here, ME1 was excellent, ME2 was only good, but it was still good
I know that ME3 is good, but I will not be as invested as with ME1
So yeah, my previous comment was more emotional and less rational

P.S. I still feel fishy about Origin though...

Origin is just EA's Steam, per say. I'm actually surprised it took this long for another company to emulate it, or at least I didn't hear anything about other Steam-ish services.

On topic, I agree with this;

Susan Arendt:

As I've already said, several times, I finished the game. I didn't like the ending, but didn't think it invalidated the 35 hours of enjoyment that came before it.

The game is good and fun. The main story is great and flows well with the other two games if you played them. If you hate the ending, then get over it. Don't let a five minute cinematic ruin a great game for you. (Yes I know it's more than that but I'm not getting into it.)

Susan Arendt:

nikki191:
I pretty much agree with her review but i get the feeling she hadnt finished the game. the ending is really something people need to be warned about

As I've already said, several times, I finished the game. I didn't like the ending, but didn't think it invalidated the 35 hours of enjoyment that came before it.

What Susan said..

I thoroughly enjoyed ME3, was amazed by the little character encounters across the ship. Really made things interesting. A really nice amount of weapons, armour and upgrades.

Yet I still just can't help myself but feel.. cheated. This whole build up across three games, this massive epic story.. and then THIS ending. It resolves absolutely nothing, it makes no sense, and my shep I invested in so heavily is.. is *gone*.

It really did make me sad.

Oh, you will be sad when it's all over that's for damn sure... but not in a good way.

Susan Arendt:

Volkov:
I have this sneaking suspicion that when the reviewer wrote the phrase "the ending the series deserves" (s)he didn't actually see the ending.

Yes, I did. I was referring to the game as a whole, not the literal ending.

You saw the endings and still gave it a 4.5 star review? I'm not sure i can take your reviews seriously anymore. We obviously are not on the same page. But then, alot of reviewers and me don't see eye to eye, and I hardly think you'd care how i feel. And realistily you shouldn't, but really? 4.5 with that ending? NEAR PERFECT with that ending? To each his own i suppose.

a lot of the quests on the citadel are bugged, but that can be fixed with a patch. honestly i absolutely loved this game... until the final 15 minutes. i can't agree with the statement that every loose end is tied up because far from... this reviewer clearly didn't get to the ending of the game when she wrote it.

Kingsnake661:

You saw the endings and still gave it a 4.5 star review? I'm not sure i can take your reviews seriously anymore. We obviously are not on the same page. But then, alot of reviewers and me don't see eye to eye, and I hardly think you'd care how i feel. And realistily you shouldn't, but really? 4.5 with that ending? NEAR PERFECT with that ending? To each his own i suppose.

Believe it or not, I would have given the game the same score before the ending as after it. Mass Effect 3 is an amazing game, and probably my favorite game in the entire series.

Choffers:
a lot of the quests on the citadel are bugged, but that can be fixed with a patch. honestly i absolutely loved this game... until the final 15 minutes. i can't agree with the statement that every loose end is tied up because far from... this reviewer clearly didn't get to the ending of the game when she wrote it.

Don't be dense. She finished the game and also didn't like the ending. This has been said many times over.

I'm a little hesitant. There's been a lot of complaints publicized, not just from fans but from my friends too, about the ending being awful and the story feeling like there was a lack of choice. I also looked in to the matter and discovered that they reduced the amount of companions you could have and that your romances got brushed off to the side unless you were getting busy with Tali (a fan favourite for some reason?) or Liara.

I don't know that I'll buy this at all until 1) it comes down in prince (soooo not paying 70 dollars) and 2) it can be run without Origin. Origin bugs out on me a *lot* and I've decided it'll go nowhere near my computer in the future; I'll not have my games held hostage by EA.

Susan, I'm really hoping you and the rest of the staff do a podcast on the ending controversy. Personally, I agree with your review that this is a great game and I didn't like the ending either. I can't say I have read all of the previous 440 posts, so I apologize if you have already addressed my question.

You've said the ending didn't invalidate the 35+ hours of previous game play. But, I wonder if you think that the ending affects the replay value of series. Do you have any other characters besides Joanna? (Awesome name btw. I happen to share it.) If so, will you replay ME3 with them knowing the ending? If not, why not?

i havent finished the game yet, since i do take my time, but even on the official ME3 forum people are complaining about the endings and other stuff in the game.
i will see for my self what ending i will get and if its really as bad as so many say.
so far i do have some complains:

- no holstering the weapons.
- no updating missions status, especially the many side quests you get. so you are left in the dark if you actually have done something or not.
- no neutral choice in dialog wheel.
- at times very long cinematic.
- talking friendly to other people quickly leads to flirting.
- no importing faces from previous games.
- also funny was, when you told the person at the beginning of the game you love her (at least i kept the relationship going from part 1), later on in the game, your partner said she wishes to be with you and i had to choose again if i want her or not. WTF???

otherwise, i do enjoy the game. it is fun and the story is grabbing. my really main issue is, the importing faces problem. i really hope this gets fixed quickly so that i can import my other sheps.

'The ending the fans deserve'

That's so ironic with the fact that the ending was awful.

I have quite seriously never felt so betrayed by a game in my life. Now dont get me wrong, I LOVED ME1 and ME2. I LOVED Bioware, ever since Baldurs Gate, Kotor etc. I didn't even mind Dragon Age 2 that much, they cant all be winners I thought and shrugged. I never jumped the hate-wagon for the day-one DLC (even though in retrospect, considering how large a part the dlc plays in the main story it should have been in the game). But this is just too much! I will think VERY seriously before ever buying a Bioware-game again... With this and the whole Tali-reveal debacle I am seriously put off by the thought of playing another Bioware game.

Now I wont write anything about the ending, others have already pointed out much better than I could WHY it sucks. But MAN it sucks!

This ending is seriously comparable to if Star Wars Episode 6 had ended by George Lucas waking up exclaiming: "It was all a dream!".

Many use the term that a game went Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy) to show how a game with a seemingly well grounded story can suddenly go ape shit on you. I think we need to coin the term Went ME3 to show when the makers of a game spend the last 10 minutes shitting on everything they and their fans have collectively built over 3 huge games.

Also, I agree with others that the reviewer could at least have taken the trouble to watch the different endings or play the game again to see how they differed (they basically dont) and how different choices affect the universe (again they for the most part dont). It quite frankly baffles me how the entire world of game reviewers seems to unisonely praise a game that so many of the fans feel betrayed by. I can absolutely accept that a few reviewers might like it due to differing taste. But is seems virtually impossible to find any review that actually calls Bioware on all the crap they pulled (not just the ending mind you, the game is very small in scope compared to ME2 and is watered down in so many areas). I would give this a 6 or 7 out of 10.

For the most part I am not angry or enraged. I just feel immensely sad. And it's not the kind of good sadness that can come from letting go of a story and characters that you have cared for for a long time. It's the kind of sadness that comes from feeling betrayed by someone you loved and whom you thought loved you back. I was supposed to play ME3 again straight after I finished it with one of my other 3 Shepards I had brought with me since ME1, all with different choices and romance and I was also thinking of playing ME1 and 2 again to get even more variation... But I doubt I will ever play either 1, 2 or 3 again. What is the point?

animehermit:

Kingsnake661:

You saw the endings and still gave it a 4.5 star review? I'm not sure i can take your reviews seriously anymore. We obviously are not on the same page. But then, alot of reviewers and me don't see eye to eye, and I hardly think you'd care how i feel. And realistily you shouldn't, but really? 4.5 with that ending? NEAR PERFECT with that ending? To each his own i suppose.

Believe it or not, I would have given the game the same score before the ending as after it. Mass Effect 3 is an amazing game, and probably my favorite game in the entire series.

Like i said, to each his own. It does suprise me, but then, alot of things people do really suprise me. *shrug* The game was good. Far from perfect. The side missions were clunky, the journal didn't update, well, at all, no easy way to keep track of who wanted what and where. Not to mention the side mission were just kind of... lame. At least the non combat ones. Go find crap and bring it us? One or two fedex missions are fine, did a few in the first two games, but this was a whole new level.

I like, no, i loved the dialog, but hated the conversation style they used. I'd prefer the zoomed in and face to face talking of ME1 and 2, this was, eh, less effeive and, for me personally, harder to hear. (I have hearing issues, very bad ears. Not deaf, but not normal.) I totally agree with her assessment of the combat roll being hard to get used too. i died so many times trying to take cover and rolling into enemy fire... or trying to roll and huging a wall... clunky.

At the end of the day, ending aside, it was the weakest of the 3 games.

The major pro's are wonderful charater development and diaolg, dispite how it was delivered, and fun combat, after you get used to goof combat rolling. (shoters are not my strong suit, maybe it's just me.)

Add in the ending and it's... well, the ending really does ruin it for me. It was a 3.5, IMO, before the ending. Like a 2 after. Nowhere NEAR a 4.5 on my scale, even without the ending, but videogame reviews of major triple a games like this hardly ever get the panning the desrive. It's just how game reviews work it seems.

Susan Arendt:

nikki191:
I pretty much agree with her review but i get the feeling she hadnt finished the game. the ending is really something people need to be warned about

As I've already said, several times, I finished the game. I didn't like the ending, but didn't think it invalidated the 35 hours of enjoyment that came before it.

I certainly enjoyed the 35 hrs that came before that, before that it was fantastic and near perfect. Heck, the 60+ other hours for the other two games, also great.

But that ending ruins the series. Completely. Many things can be forgiven, a bad ending can't. No Catharsis? No go. That's the sad truth of writing. As creator and writer you have a -responsibility- to end your work well or you risk spoiling the entire work. Ultimately my player agency was subverted and my work done in the previous games lost some of it's meaning and significance. This game will be remembered for it's ending, for good or ill.

Wow. It's pretty amazing that as more time passes the posts get more and more negative. I think maybe I should make a graph.
OT:

I stayed up a lot longer than I should have some nights playing this game because I wanted to get to the end of the tunnel, to see after all the hard work I'd put into the universe a great and deserving conclusion to Mass Effect. Instead I get an ending that was, and I don't throw around these words casually, worse than Halo 2's.

TsunamiWombat:

Susan Arendt:

nikki191:
I pretty much agree with her review but i get the feeling she hadnt finished the game. the ending is really something people need to be warned about

As I've already said, several times, I finished the game. I didn't like the ending, but didn't think it invalidated the 35 hours of enjoyment that came before it.

I certainly enjoyed the 35 hrs that came before that, before that it was fantastic and near perfect. Heck, the 60+ other hours for the other two games, also great.

But that ending ruins the series. Completely. Many things can be forgiven, a bad ending can't. No Catharsis? No go. That's the sad truth of writing. As creator and writer you have a -responsibility- to end your work well or you risk spoiling the entire work. Ultimately my player agency was subverted and my work done in the previous games lost some of it's meaning and significance. This game will be remembered for it's ending, for good or ill.

I sorta liked some of the endings, youknow... There is like 8 endings depending on whenever you saved the collectorbase or not, whenever you played multiplayer or not, and how much military strength you have. One of them I believe is as close to a good ending as you are gonna get.

You gotta wonder though, if you do that that ending how is that huge Asari/Salarian/Krogan/Elcor/Hanar/Drell/Turian/Batarian/Human fleet gonna leave the Sol System? xD. . I can see Earth becomming a -bit- more Multicultural in the following years.

I would sorta have liked to see a game set after affected by what ending you got, but who knows. Bioware told us to keep the Mass Effect 3 saves so maybe we will.

I agree with you on everything...

Except the ending. Whatever you say, that is not the ending Mass Effect deserved. It deserved something more of the Star Wars trilogy ending, just elongated to include everyone.

The ending was horrible.

The ending was most certainly not the ending that Mass Effect deserved.

The game as a whole was an ending to the series that the fans deserved. It was brilliant on every level for me and far surpassed the gameplay and storytelling of past games.

However, the actual ending of the 3 game epic trilogy was defiantly not what the fans deserved.

The ending, as most people have already stated, completely ruined it for me.It was not only disappointing because it was not the triumphant heroic end that everyone wanted for their commander Shepherd, but because it didn't fit with the tone of the rest of the story. Also, the endings(all of them) are full of plot holes and inconsistencies.

(spoiler alert, however on page 13 i assume everyone reading this has already seen the horrific ending)- If not don't read on

I know some people will say, but not every story can have a good ending. But there is something that feels intrinsically wrong with a sour ending to a game because no matter how artsy a game gets it is still a game. And a game must be able to be won and nothing about those endings felt like a win.

Actually, Earth wasn't the first planet to get hit; the Batarian home-world was annihilated right away.

Actually, Earth wasn't the first planet to get hit; the Batarian home-world was annihilated right away.

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