Mass Effect 3: The Process

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BX3:

Darkmantle:

the basic issue is that the finale of the game is essentially "well you are fucked, but please, press buttons A B or C to choose your ending cinematic"

Did you play a model citizen? Doesn't matter same ABC

Did you play a violent Arrogant Prick? doesn't matter ABC

did you speed run the games? Doesn't matter ABC

Did you painstakingly complete EVERY sidequest? doesn't matter, ABC

Ah, I see, so not the endings, but the way in which they were implemented. That does sound pretty rage inducing. Seems like a bit of a cop out on Bioware's part, especially given that many of the game's fans are attracted to the story driven and role playing nature of the franchise.

Thanks for explaining it in layman's terms.

what makes it worse is that they bragged it up in a few interviews that EVERY choice would be represented in the endings and it was going to be "incredibly complex".

What a joke.

And no problem :)

I made a point that this seemed to be happening in a lot of the "I'm fine with the ending now" threads... after they were signing petitions to get the ending changed. They were angry about it before. And bewildered before that.

You've reached acceptance. Bravo. You are now officially sad, sad people.

MiracleOfSound:
Exactly how I felt. Crushed.

Never thought a damn videogame could make me feel so down in the dumps - especially my freakin favorite series of all time.

Hehe! Reminds me how I felt after Shadow of the Colossus or the end of LIMBO.

Just so broken up and left asking "WHY GOD WHY!?!"

RaeAlethea:
I'm deeeep in depression. With a touch of denial. I'm seriously considering making a Kaidan pillow to make it all hurt just a little less.

Care to make a second?

MiracleOfSound:
Exactly how I felt. Crushed.

Never thought a damn videogame could make me feel so down in the dumps - especially my freakin favorite series of all time.

Just do what I and others are doing sir; try to erase the last ten minutes of the game from memory, and focus (heavily) on the good parts that made the Mass Effect series so special to you.

In my case, Kaidan. Lots and lots of Kaidan:

*sighs* I'm going to need a lot more Kaidan to forget about this...

True story - after I beat the game, me and the boyfriend were dumbstruck for 20 minutes, just going 'huu-whaaaa?'. I even walked around in a confused daze.

I ranted and raved at the nearest available target (my mother) for about 10 minutes after finishing. I believe I described it as "imagine if your first time watching The Lord of the Rings you watched the extended cuts and all back to back, and then Return ends when Gollum and Frodo fall off the ledge in Mt. Doom". Except with some more ranting and slightly more colorful language thrown in. I knew what was coming and STILL was mad. If anything, experiencing it made it worse, even knowing what the ending was. I am still firmly in the anger stage.

I'm right now inbetween 'acceptance' and 'bartering' when it comes to the ending. It hasn't effected me fully because I haven't actually played the whole game yet but still I'm trying my best to be emotionall prepared for what I do.
I should say outright that when I say I'm in the 'bartering' stage I mean simply that I still really want Bioware/EA to hurry up and approve of these:
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A DLC remaking the endings may be hopeless but this is something that I am willing to let myself get emotionally invested in. Come on Bioware, if I really can't have a happy ending I can at least have high quality Play Arts Kai figures of my favorite characters, especially Ashley I would rather a PAK figure of her then a bishoujo statue. Surely that's no asking for the world.
Before I wouldn't even have worried about this because after all they are really well made, could sell for a huge price and given Bioware's attempts to market Mass Effect to Japan having toys made by a Japanese company would help.
But after these endings made thousands of people pissed off an depressed I now am actually worried about EA/Bioware when it comes to making good decisions.

I have decided that simply if Bioware don't license these, it will be the last straw for me.

And now you finally understand the heart break of a Megaman fan.

I swear to god, in the end they will release a dozen "proper" endings as DLC, $10 each.
The most GLORIOUS ripoff of all times.
And abuse of the bargain stage, of course. It will be so awesome *___*

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-14-bioware-responds-to-mass-effect-3-ending-furore

Not sure if this is good news or not, they arent ruling out continuation DLC but they are saying that this is how they wanted us to react to make it "memorable"

So true.

It's funny 'cause it's true.

I could use a Garrus body pillow now.

I didn't hate the ending as much as other people but yeah alongside the already disappointing game overall certainly wasn't the high note I was hoping for the trilogy to end on.

The Jakeinator:
It's funny 'cause it's true.

I could use a Garrus body pillow now.

Mine has Tali.

soren7550:

RaeAlethea:
I'm deeeep in depression. With a touch of denial. I'm seriously considering making a Kaidan pillow to make it all hurt just a little less.

Care to make a second?

I'm currently using my boyfriend as a substitute Kaidan pillow, but of course he doesn't measure up :( Its hard, but we just have to focus on everything that made Mass Effect 3 amazing and not focus on the last 5 minutes. I say that, but I'm still in depression.

I don't know why so many people are upset about the endings! Sure, there wasn't much variety between them, but I found the endings to be fairly good! But hey, that's just me.

Who else is starting to feel like how awesome the rest of the series is (including ME3 up until the last 10 minutes) was nothing more than an elaborate practical joke to raise our hopes as high as possible in order to laugh at how spectacularly they could be crushed...?

Akichi Daikashima:
People are just afraid to let go I guess, I for one, was a bit sad, but all good stories need an ending...

All stories need an ending.

All good stories need a good ending. Relatively subtle difference.

I would be HAPPY if it ended. The game industry is even worse than the movie industry when it comes to actually finishing stories. The ending should be the culmination of everything that has been leading up to it. Threads should be tied up, conclusions made.

Ever read the Mistborn trilogy? There is some FLAWLESS storytelling for you. The purpose of the story is so good and even if the ending can be said to be extremely bittersweet it ended. And it ended good. ME3s ending was a fucking disgrace.

RaeAlethea:

soren7550:

RaeAlethea:
I'm deeeep in depression. With a touch of denial. I'm seriously considering making a Kaidan pillow to make it all hurt just a little less.

Care to make a second?

I'm currently using my boyfriend as a substitute Kaidan pillow, but of course he doesn't measure up :( Its hard, but we just have to focus on everything that made Mass Effect 3 amazing and not focus on the last 5 minutes. I say that, but I'm still in depression.

Are you me? Because I'm pretty sure I'm me, and that's what me is doing.

Could be an evil twin I suppose, but you can't be evil, you like Kaidan. Does that make me the evil twin then? That can't be though, since I too like Kaidan. GAAAAAAAAAHHH!

*goes back to Good Mass Effect Stuff comfort zone*

Yeah, I've moved passed depression and on to acceptance. I learned to appreciate the endings. Could have done some things better, but overall, I've put up with worse.

FINALLY, a shower scene with Erin! All my dreams have come true!

Wait, what? o_O

digital warrior:
Yah the ending was pretty shit. But here something that will at least make it interesting if true. http://social.bioware.com/forums/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423/1

Basically it states that the entire part with the citadel was an indoctrination test set by the reapers in Sheppard's death coma, its an interesting read the theirs allot of evidence to support it.

Still pisses me off though cause that means it's incomplete and they will charge us for the ending. Not cool man, not cool.

Wow.. that actually makes sense.

It explains why the generic pistol never ran out of ammo and didn't need to reload.
It explains how, when you get to the illusive man, the wards still have the lights of cars moving in them.

You better make the DLC free bioware...

I think the final stage is Vengence

This is why I stopped playing at 1...Yeah. I saw it coming.

SpiderJerusalem:

Irridium:

kuolonen:

Its worse than DA2. Atleast DA2 game some information on what happened afterwards.

ME3 has single line "Shepard is legend". Yeah. Ok.

OT: Me, I am steady on the acceptance by now. And by that I mean I dont care if world ends in 2012. In fact I'm kinda hoping it does.

You mean ME3 has even less than "Hawke and friends ran away"?

Holy fuck that's bad.

Yep.

Ya, the disappointment is already gone, it was replaced by denial and rage. Now I'm just depressed because all my trust and previous faith in Bioware is completely gone, in one not so subtle stroke.

Great job Bioware, you now have one less buyer in your next game. Cheers!

I find the attempts to justify the endings extremely pathetic. Look, if 95 (honestly it's probably more) percent of people didn't like your ending, and almost all of those people went through the the other games and this one so they obviously like this sort of thing, YOU'VE MADE A COLOSSAL FUCK UP.

SpiderJerusalem:

Irridium:

kuolonen:

Its worse than DA2. Atleast DA2 game some information on what happened afterwards.

ME3 has single line "Shepard is legend". Yeah. Ok.

OT: Me, I am steady on the acceptance by now. And by that I mean I dont care if world ends in 2012. In fact I'm kinda hoping it does.

You mean ME3 has even less than "Hawke and friends ran away"?

Holy fuck that's bad.

...Wait, you're kidding.

No, you must be fucking joking.

Yeah, that's it. It's a joke...Right?

........Right?

Oh god please tell me you're joking.

...You're not joking are you.

That's actually the ending.

That's actually the ending to fucking mass effect. That's actually the ending to my favourite rpg series of all time.

...Yup, I'm gonna go kill myself now. See ya.

No, wait I gotta survive high school. I know a nuclear plant pretty close to here. I'm gonna see if I can make a nuclear bomb TO KILL EVERYONE WHO DID THIS.

Lumber Barber:

SpiderJerusalem:

Irridium:

You mean ME3 has even less than "Hawke and friends ran away"?

Holy fuck that's bad.

Yep.

That is just horribly disturbing.

Oh god I don't think I can do the romance scenes anymore.

Well..They somehow managed to ruin the entire series. I'm gonna see what I can do about that nuclear bomb plan

SpiderJerusalem:

Irridium:

kuolonen:

Its worse than DA2. Atleast DA2 game some information on what happened afterwards.

ME3 has single line "Shepard is legend". Yeah. Ok.

OT: Me, I am steady on the acceptance by now. And by that I mean I dont care if world ends in 2012. In fact I'm kinda hoping it does.

You mean ME3 has even less than "Hawke and friends ran away"?

Holy fuck that's bad.

The moment I saw that, I couldn't help imagining

That ending was disturbing for multiple reasons.

Danpascooch:

SpiderJerusalem:

Irridium:

You mean ME3 has even less than "Hawke and friends ran away"?

Holy fuck that's bad.

The moment I saw that, I couldn't help imagining

That ending was disturbing for multiple reasons.

Grandpa, in between having Werther's Originals for a snack, also tells stories about:

Psychotic, mentally and physically abused, sexually volatile biotics.
The mass murder of hundreds of thousands of Batarians.
That one time Shep totally punched a woman, three times.
The other time he slept around with every alien on his spaceship.
And Kelly Chambers.
Not to mention all that sex talk he/she had with Garrus.

Ah yes, it's a nice evening in that household. They'll never let the kid see the grandpa again.

Probably won't buy the game... too poor. played the first and second though. Liked em. So I looked up the endings to 3. Eh... Don't see the big issue. The community seems a tad too crazy over it. Why does every ending need to be the happy ending like,"and then Garrus and Shep got married and lived happily ever after". I like that ending, but it's nothing special.

I can see where everyone is coming from but, honestly? I was expecting worse from the comments.

I think, if taken as "that literally happened", then it's okay, if taken metaphorically and interwoven with existing philosophy, it's a thought provoking end. However, I personally favour the indoctrination theory as it makes much more sense.

Or, something I prefer even more to either of these ideas, Drew Karpyshyn's original ending:

http://www.oxm.co.uk/39736/revealed-the-mass-effect-3-ending-bioware-canned-before-release/

Bioware is dead to me.

Audacity:
This is why I stopped playing at 1...Yeah. I saw it coming.

Quicker than me, I saw it coming after 2. I decided this story could never be un-stupided or fixed after the reapers were building terminator out of human smoothie by teaming up with incredibly stupid aliens who think an ambush means letting your enemies into the center of your base and giving them all your sensitive information, then building a pathway out for them and only sending five guys at a time to stop them. No longer an RPG, but another cover based shooter with a bit more plot. I knew then the third game would be just as it is. All this news about controversy and bad endings comes as no surprise whatsoever.

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