The Big Picture: Relics

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Relics

Bob opens our eyes on benign racism.

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Very good episode. I more-or-less knew the information already, but you made it click. Now for my question.

Who would win: Anakin Skywalker or Gambit?

Sadly at this point in history it was an assumption held by colonialists that Africa had no history.

Dear MovieBob, what do you think of fans, fanboys, fangirls, fandon hatred, fandom entitlemt, and fandon whining.

Also you opinion on MLP: FIM would be greatly liked.

Huh, certainly didn't know any of that. Though I went right to Indiana Jones and never thought about Tomb Raider.

Mailbag episode, sounds neat.

The Temple of Doom was easily always my least favorite out of all three Indiana Jones movies.
Because there were only three
ONLY THREE.

Damit I'm too white to think of a question.

Orks da best:
Also you opinion on MLP: FIM would be greatly liked.

Bob already listed current TV shows under the things he doesn't know about. Still, brohoof?
/]

That was cool lil history lesson! Bit of an eye opener as well! Bravo Bob!

So Sir Bob, I must inquire do you enjoy cups of tea? If so what kinds? I prefer Earl Grey myself.

Non-Marvel, non-DC, possibly even non-Superhero comics please!

That was a good way of making your point. Also where is my episode about the Phantom?

What are your favorite movies and why?

Heres hoping it gets answered... or at least an ep about it.

A good point well made there.

Mailbag question:
I recall that way back when you reviewed the first Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes film you mentioned that you hadn't seen any of the BBCs modern-day Sherlock series. I was wondering if you have seen any or all of the 6 TV-Film "episodes" since then and, if so, what your thoughts are on the modern day retelling and the series production as a whole.

Great episode as always Bob.

As for my question, I have to ask, what got you into the Movie Critic business? Besides your clear love and knowledge of movies of course.

How about what's your opinion on the DC reboot now that it's happened?

Although I still want an episode on Science Fiction books.

Oh actually then: What's your favorite Sci-Fi novel?

Closer to home, there was a very similar phenomenon with the mound builders of the midwestern US

Good episode. Thought it was gonna be another one of those politically correct soapbox episodes like last week. Not that I mind those exactly but I simply think the whole world has become fixated on political correctness.

Being black I can safely say that I've never felt that my race has ever been something that's kept me from opportunity or success in my life. While I'm sure there are certainly still racist people I think that the racism that went on as recently as 40-50 years ago is just a shadow of what it was.

Of course I'm not one of these over sensitive people that are quick to throw the race card around whenever someone looks at me crossed eyed either. For instance the fellas I play poker with, a bunch of retired cops and a few younger guys, we say some of the most horrible racially insensitive things you can imagine to one another.

Hell a few years back I got a bucket of fried chicken and a watermelon as birthday gifts (in addition to some very thoughtful gifts from the same guys). Both of which were delicious I may add. It was all in good fun and I've given as good as I got though as there is a couple of them that are Mexican, and few white fellas, and one Greek fella but nobody takes it seriously and we are all really good friends at the end of the day.

The bottom line is I simply think that people need to grow a pair and learn to stop being so thin skinned. Yes, things like sexism and racism exist but honestly in today's society neither are really an issue of any significance.

What I liked most about this episode, was that I already had a college course on African History, and knew some of this stuff, so I was able to fallow easily.

Question: Could you give your opinion, based off of just cursory information gained from Youtube and forums, about Mass Effect 3; more specifically, the amount of hate Bioware is currently getting from fans for things like "From Ashes" and ME3's endings?

Huh. That's kind of interesting.

But wait... presumably they had guides and such that they could ask. Someone must have known the history of the cities, even if there was only oral stories.

Well... actually, I guess that's what the books were loosely based off, and then imaginations back home ran wild.

Here's a question for you though:

What are the other non-Tolkein fantasy ancestors?

Just wondering what there was before pointy ears and short bastards.

I don't see why people will automatically tune Bob off when talking about racism... Well, I GUESS nobody wants to sit through these kinds of lectures... but I think they should anyway. >:|

Really, this just reminds me of all the people who refuse to hear what Bob has to say, just because Bob is the one that said it. That's ignorant, and it ruins an otherwise good point he may have made.

Anyway, I like these introspective looks at words, history, etc., it helps you think outside the box, and you might even learn some new things. I also think it's funny, in a very tragic sort of way, hearing about "the lost city" and it's supposed origins, and the whites throught it was some kind of ancient civilization that went unknown for years to come... without even considering that the humans that already lived there might have built them. :(

What's even more sad is the idea that anyone on the Internet will deal with this sort of thing in an "intellectually honest" way. Especially the "intellectual" part.

Nice to see someone talk about racism without letting the conversation devolve into finger-waggling and guilt-tripping.

Anyway, I don't have any questions. Not that there aren't things I wouldn't ask if they occurred to me, it's just that generally speaking, the stuff I find most fascinating is the stuff that I know absolutely nothing about. And see, the way I work is that as soon as I come across something I don't know about, I like to go do some research, so I quickly start to know about it. Therefore, the stuff that I'd want to ask you about is stuff I'd go research on my own rather than wait around for someone to tell me about. If I were to want to hear something from you, it would be something totally outside my experience and, given this, it's kinda hard to ask you a question about it, because I don't know what I don't know about.

So . . . surprise me.

Yay, I learned something new! thank you sir.

As for a question... since you have worked in movie industrie, my question would have to be: How would you make video game based movies work?

Interesting and informative episode.... funny how we take certain things in fantasy/pop culture for granted.

QUESTION: What's your opinion on the next generation of game consoles and where it will/might take the game industry? Failing that, where do you see consoles in the future i.e. 10-15 years from now?

templar1138a:
Very good episode. I more-or-less knew the information already, but you made it click. Now for my question.

Who would win: Anakin Skywalker or Gambit?

Gambit. Because Anakin Skywalker was apparently a cry-baby.

I loooove all that lost city stuff in videogames/movies ect, but this take on it, i'd never even considered. Bob must really have an insightful mind to notice this kind of stuff right?

Loved the video btw, best one for a while.

I actually think of South America when I think of lost cities, since one of the archetypical lost cities, El Dorado is located around there, or in southern-North America, but I suppose the point of racism still stands.

I do think however, that the standard american perspective on racism does tend to mess up proper understanding of classic ethnocentrism. That is to say, people have been trying to claim that there must've been some mystical/alien force helping the ancients build their wonders from the great Pyramids to Stonehenge, where everyone doubts that the very white, but not-german and not-roman Celts could've built something that a man built in his backyard.

shit; doublepost

The really depressing thing about this is that those European explorers would have likely known what the Spaniards found in the Americas, which included some of the largest cities in the world at the time, so the notion that non-Europeans/Asians could build such civilizations was not so inconceivable as to be ludicrous. Hell, even the then-legendary city of Timbuktu, which contained an ancient library and other buildings reminiscent of Alexandra, was located in Northern Africa and was almost inaccessible to those without guides.

As for questions:

-Any opinion on the current US presidential race?

-Are there any movies that you would like to be remade now that certain advances in cameras, film, and effects have been made? It's real easy to tear down reboots/remakes, but there's got to be a movie that you actually want remade well.

-Have you ever watched an okay movie and wondered if it would have been better suited for another medium?

Wow, very informative, I had no idea "The Lost City" trope originated from Africa like that, pretty depressing when it's put like this.

When I see "The Lost City" my mind jumps straight to South America, Mayans, Aztecs, that sort of thing.

Same deal with the Mound builder cultures of the mid-west. Cultures and languages drift, populations migrate, civilizations collapse, etc. It's not like anyone in Britain has an oral tradition of the building of stonehenge, and for that matter for most if not all of the dark ages Europeans were unable to duplicate the construction methods and accomplishments of the Romans, though at least in that case they knew who built them.

now if i may, do you (bob) think possibly that the reason they didnt think blacks built the civilizations was because that these were astounding castles and when they got there the people were....living in huts......thats sort of what is was thinking the whole vid. they probably thought that way because almost no other civilization has gone from castles to huts and seemed to move...backwards.
Now of course im not saying anything negative to be mean, i just like to think about all 3 sides of an issue (there's always at least 3 sides to any argument. Quiet frankly if i found a new civilization that lived in huts while finding remains of huge empires, i sort of wonder why the hell no one ever thought of rebuilding or replicating it for better living conditions. That may be part of the reason they couldn't believe they made it.

beniki:
Huh. That's kind of interesting.

But wait... presumably they had guides and such that they could ask. Someone must have known the history of the cities, even if there was only oral stories.

Well... actually, I guess that's what the books were loosely based off, and then imaginations back home ran wild.

Here's a question for you though:

What are the other non-Tolkein fantasy ancestors?

Just wondering what there was before pointy ears and short bastards.

Same deal with the Mound builder cultures of the mid-west. Cultures and languages drift, populations migrate, civilizations collapse, etc. It's not like anyone in Britain has an oral tradition of the building of stonehenge, and for that matter for most if not all of the dark ages Europeans were unable to duplicate the construction methods and accomplishments of the Romans, though at least in that case they knew who built them.

This is one of the most level headed assessments of what racism is/was that I have ever heard a voice say (besides the one's in my head). So many things are racist and based on racism that have nothing at all to do with any sort of negative connotation that it outright gives me a headache when this subject is brought up. For instance, take affirmative action. It is racist in the sense that it's a social movement that defines some people of a certain race (or gender or backround or religion) as more deserving of something based on that very thing. And how about this, if you are positively racist about a person then you are by extension negatively racist about other people who are not like them.

What it all comes down to is choices. People want to define choices that other people make as a choice based on race, when many times that simply is untrue. No one is denying that there are folks out there who hate women, blacks, hispanics, jews, etc., based on those very things. But when you throw racism around so lightly as it's done today, then you basically are harming the cause of equality. And in conclusion, if you want there to be equality, you must get completely rid of any policies that are based on race.

PS. This does not mean it's ok to call someone who beat you League of Legends, the N-word or a jew or anything of that sort. as I have seen so many of the children who play that game, and others, do so often.

Don't know if this is a bit silly or anything you know about, but anyways:

Why so many fantasy works repeat the same tropes of elves, dwarves, dragons over and over again? Why is it so hard to come across a fantasy work which feels fresh and new?

Good episode Bob... Maybe next week you can tell us the origin of the villainous laugh.

My question is: Why is it when a director like Uwe Bol gets the film rights to a game, instead of making a decent movie he make a total pigs-ear of it?

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