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Best "Playa" Ever

St. Patrick's Day is around the corner, pretty much a holiday built around eating boiled meat and getting so drunk that Irish little people handing out gold from rainbows sounds plausible. And with ladies everywhere being buzzed, the playas come out to play. But who is the biggest playa of all time? At least let us all agree to not hate the playa ... hate the game.

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St. Patrick's Day is around the corner, pretty much a holiday built around eating boiled meat and getting so drunk that Irish little people handing out gold from rainbows sounds plausible.

Wow. Just wow...

Could you be more offensive? I appreciate that maybe a joke, but if I described 4th July in a similar way, wouldn't I be outright banned?

Seriously guys, so not cool.

St. Patrick's Day is a celebration of the 4 Saints that brought Christianity to Europe and then to the Americas. The very least you could do is not use it as a joke explaining which white guy is acting like a black pimp.

St. Patrick was best known though, for driving the snakes out of Ireland. From what I've seen here, I know where they went.

Oh dear God...I have not laughed so hard in my LIFE! This was an awesome episode!

Although...in all fairness, with Mario going between Peach and Pauline, having a brief stint with Daisy, and getting smooches from damn near every female protagonist in TTYD, he could be a contender with Kirk.

Wait shouldn't Bond get a playa point because he DOES beat competition?
And didn't Spock get that Romulan Commander to defect in the Original series?

The_root_of_all_evil:

St. Patrick's Day is around the corner, pretty much a holiday built around eating boiled meat and getting so drunk that Irish little people handing out gold from rainbows sounds plausible.

Wow. Just wow...

Could you be more offensive? I appreciate that maybe a joke, but if I described 4th July in a similar way, wouldn't I be outright banned?

Seriously guys, so not cool.

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CHILLAX ROOT DAMN! I'd hate to see your reaction to Lucky Charms Cereal. And why would we Americans care about you making a joke about July the 4th? Rupert Murdoch doesn't own the escapist (not yet anyway). Besides I'm pretty Kyle is descended from Irish stock.

DVS BSTrD:

CHILLAX ROOT DAMN!

No.

I'd hate to see your reaction to Lucky Charms Cereal.

I'd hate to see what would happen if you called the New York Police Force a bunch of drunkards.

And why would we Americans care about you making a joke about July the 4th? Rupert Murdoch doesn't own the escapist (not yet anyway). Besides I'm pretty Kyle is descended from Irish stock.

1) It's trolling.
2) It's religion and politics.
3) It's a throw-away line to introduce something irrelevant.

I'd report it normally and I'm reporting it now.

The_root_of_all_evil:
Wow. Just wow...

Could you be more offensive? I appreciate that maybe a joke, but if I described 4th July in a similar way, wouldn't I be outright banned?

Seriously guys, so not cool.

St. Patrick's Day is a celebration of the 4 Saints that brought Christianity to Europe and then to the Americas. The very least you could do is not use it as a joke explaining which white guy is acting like a black pimp.

Ow, I just got a cramp in my irony.

But seriously, St. Patrick's Day isn't really as cut-and-dry as all of that. To some, it's a "celebration" of Catholicism being shoehorned into other cultures, so not much to celebrate. Aside from that the commercialized "St. Patty's Day" is almost a separate entity from the traditional St. Patrick's Day -- kind of like how "Christmas" (Jesus Christmas) and "X-Mas" (Santa Christmas) divide up in much of America.

On the 4th of July thing, there's a 0% chance you'd be banned for saying it's, for instance, a day to get drunk and blow things up. Now, if you said, "That's a stupid holiday for dumb Americans to celebrate dumb stupid American things," that'd be different -- the problem isn't if someone "insults" a day. It's about insulting a culture (or other group of people).

This? Perhaps an overly-casual treatment of the holiday's source material, but really just a harmless jab at the usual activities surrounding the holiday. Hardly what one might deem "offensive."

Dastardly:

Ow, I just got a cramp in my irony.

Read it back. Then decide.

Then ask yourself what you'd feel like if I started making 9/11 jokes.

I'm exceedingly angry at certain contributors using their taglines for posts that wouldn't be accepted as normal posts - and I'm making a point here. If you want to condemn others cultures, I believe that falls under "Don't be a jerk".

I'm certain there'll be more people rushing in to tell me I'm being one; I just want to see this recent development of "fair game for shock headlines" to stop.

snoop? cause even including fiction I think we all can agree snoop is the biggest "playa" (edit:I relation to the "biggest playa" question, not the argument of how offensive or not the text blob is) (edit 2: forgot black dynamite, he is slightly more "playa" then snoop)

Kyle fought a noble battle, but I knew he was doomed from a second Dan said "James T. Kirk".

Sidenote: Spock was a sex symbol in his day. Isaac Asimov was somewhat disturbed by his daughter's crush on Spcok.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Dastardly:

Ow, I just got a cramp in my irony.

I'm certain there'll be more people rushing in to tell me I'm being [a jerk]; I just want to see this recent development of "fair game for shock headlines" to stop.

I don't think you're a jerk, but you do seem very easily offended.

The_root_of_all_evil:
Then ask yourself what you'd feel like if I started making 9/11 jokes.

How is 9/11 anything like St. Patrick's Day?!

Well, okay, aside from the train wreck this thread started with look at it this way.

1.James Bond is a position to go with the 007 code name, not the actual name of the character.
2. James T. Kirk is now even more of a playa than he was before.

Sorry, but I must go with Tucker from Red vs. Blue
He is so good that alien DID HIM :D

The_root_of_all_evil:
I'd hate to see what would happen if you called the New York Police Force a bunch of drunkards.

If you actually made a joke about it, it could be funny. If George Carlin can make a joke about rape, you can make a joke about New York police. It's the New York FIREMEN you're still not allowed to touch.

1) It's trolling.

I'm pretty sure the entire concept of this show could be considered trolling. There's a James Bond fanboy who would be OUTRAGED that Kirk was chosen over 007.

2) It's religion and politics.

St. Patrick's Day is a celebration of the 4 Saints that brought Christianity to Europe and then to the Americas.

Firstly I don't believe in sacred cows.
And Secondly they weren't belittling the Religious aspect of the holiday OR the Irish as a people, they were mocking the CELEBRATION of St. Patrick's Day.

3) It's a throw-away line to introduce something irrelevant.

It is a rather weak tie-in.

The very least you could do is not use it as a joke explaining which white guy is acting like a black pimp.

People who live glass houses root_of_all_evil, shouldn't imply that the concept of abusing women and selling their bodies is exclusive to a single race. And comparing James T Kirk and James Bond to actual pimps? Now THAT's Trolling if I ever heard it.

Plus...

St. Patrick was best known though, for driving the snakes out of Ireland. From what I've seen here, I know where they went.

Who's the real mean spirited one here?

I am not sure, but if I search my feelings (like Luke Skywalker) the 2nd post is more offensive to me and my Irish heritage than the original post. The first one is a joke... a ha ha... a funny if you will. The second one appears to be an outright attempt to troll and contains a racially insensitive comment as well. My irony alarm seems to be going off.

Anyways to the part that matters... excellent show boys. I lol'd a bunch. "He's doing some sentient cloud of energy" all time classic line.

Both guys are reasonable choices, but i feel if you took away Kirk's whole space option and kept him on earth (still doing a mission similar to what hes doing in space), there would be less of an argument for him. Plus Bonds only got sexier (why yes im comfortable enough as a guy with my sexuality to say that) while Kirk we... the new kirk is alright looking but hes that bland alright looking like megan fox is, and shatner is just being more and more of a train wreck as he grows older.

Now you cantsay you wouldnt want to go with Sean Connery even now if given the chance (i mean come on, the guys been knighted). And really the worst looking bonds was probably David Niven (and he was in a spoof so i wouldnt really call him an actual bond).

DVS BSTrD:
If you actually made a joke about it, it could be funny.

And if they did, it would have been.

You seem to be missing out on what the problem is, so I'll underline it.

With St. Patrick's Day coming up, the "No Right Answer" team decided to celebrate it by getting drunk and eating meat before asking "Who is the Real Playa?"

Not Offensive

As St. Patrick drove the snakes out of Ireland, he might have thought to himself "Begorrah, who moight have done this if I hadn't have been around?"

Not Offensive

St. Patrick's Day is around the corner, pretty much a holiday built around eating boiled meat and getting so drunk that Irish little people handing out gold from rainbows sounds plausible.

Offensive - Because it insults real people beliefs, and is ridiculously inaccurate even for a non-believer.

Not hating the playa - just the game.

The_root_of_all_evil:

St. Patrick's Day is around the corner, pretty much a holiday built around eating boiled meat and getting so drunk that Irish little people handing out gold from rainbows sounds plausible.

Wow. Just wow...

Could you be more offensive? I appreciate that maybe a joke, but if I described 4th July in a similar way, wouldn't I be outright banned?

Seriously guys, so not cool.

St. Patrick's Day is a celebration of the 4 Saints that brought Christianity to Europe and then to the Americas. The very least you could do is not use it as a joke explaining which white guy is acting like a black pimp.

St. Patrick was best known though, for driving the snakes out of Ireland. From what I've seen here, I know where they went.

I don't think they really meant any offense to begin with- they're not targeting a group nor particular set of people to purposely tick off but rather make a joke about a traditional thing about how people tend to celebrate by actually getting drunk (Irish people do love to drink and I am pretty much Irish despite that I don't drink ever.)

But also I can't blame you for feeling offended. If this rubs you off the wrong way thus the post comes off as unjustified you are always free to ask the Staff about this type of stuff. In truth though some people have a sense of darker humor then others while still being civil and respectful towards the community which is why they didn't directly insult the culture of Irish people nor whites in general (if that's the case I assume).

Still, glad to least see you express your concern in a civil manner with some history to share. Props to you of course-

OT: and as for this episode.. I think honestly that Commander Shepard is the biggest player ever despite how convinced I am that James T. 'Universe' does every female he can get his hands on. The reason why I think Shepard is the biggest player?

Because he doesn't just go for whatever chick he can get his hands on.. oh no, he tries to score with the chicks who have the biggest roles or most power in the galaxy. There are some spoilers so turn away now unless you've played through Mass Effect 3. Okay we're good to go!

Liara - Shadow Broker
Tali - Ambassador of the whole Quarian Fleet
Ashly - Specter for the Council
Miranda - Ex Cerberus top agent
EDI - Normandy's if not Cerberus's best Al robot in the universe
Jack - Most powerful biotic human in existence
Samara - An asari justicar

Just those women right there are extremely powerful in their own nature if not literally powerful in a form of physical strength or biotic OPness. So Shepard to me gets the best player hands down because he really goes for the top instead of just scoring with whoever.

The_root_of_all_evil:
[quote="DVS BSTrD"

St. Patrick's Day is around the corner, pretty much a holiday built around eating boiled meat and getting so drunk that Irish little people handing out gold from rainbows sounds plausible.

Offensive - Because it insults real people beliefs.

Not hating the playa - just the game.

Is this a belief you hold, or are you insulted on someone's behalf? As St. Patrick's Day is celebrated now particularly in the US are they that far off? They are talking about the holiday "built" around the Saint and their triumphs. The holiday that has been built into what it is today. They are not saying the original St. Patrick's Day was a celebration of eating boiled meat and getting drunk. That is what it has devolved/been built into.

So does Christmas offend you when there are people that think Santa and gifts first and Jesus and Sacrifice second? Christmas has been built into a celebration of consumerism in the North America. It starts the moment the Hallowe'en crap gets moved off the shelves November 1st.

I can't help but think from your profile and your sheer number of posts you troll. So congrats on helping the guys you called snakes (surely they wouldn't be offended by that would they?) get additional page views.

The_root_of_all_evil:

St. Patrick's Day is around the corner, pretty much a holiday built around eating boiled meat and getting so drunk that Irish little people handing out gold from rainbows sounds plausible.

Offensive - Because it insults real people beliefs, and is ridiculously inaccurate even for a non-believer.

Not hating the playa - just the game.

How about a Christmas being built around drinking so much eggnog that the idea of a charitable fat man that lives on an ice-flow breaking into the homes of every Christian on earth in a single night?
St.Patrick's is named after Saint Patrick just as Christmas is named after Jesus, but the basis for the celebration of these holidays is not proselytizing and exterminating reptiles OR giving birth in a barn. It's not 'drink so much leprechauns sound plausible' day, but that's basically what it's about.

The_root_of_all_evil:

St. Patrick's Day is around the corner, pretty much a holiday built around eating boiled meat and getting so drunk that Irish little people handing out gold from rainbows sounds plausible.

Wow. Just wow...

Could you be more offensive? I appreciate that maybe a joke, but if I described 4th July in a similar way, wouldn't I be outright banned?

Seriously guys, so not cool.

St. Patrick's Day is a celebration of the 4 Saints that brought Christianity to Europe and then to the Americas. The very least you could do is not use it as a joke explaining which white guy is acting like a black pimp.

St. Patrick was best known though, for driving the snakes out of Ireland. From what I've seen here, I know where they went.

Root, I honestly can't tell if you ate legitimately angered by the post, but let me set the record straight. we were not referring to Irish people as drunks, we were talking about how many people celebrate the holiday. Go into any store this week and you will see green beer on sale. If you find offense in what we posted, then you must also find offense in 90 percent of ads for the holiday, showing leprechauns dancing under displays of guinness. Plus, the Irish little people is a reference to leprechauns, so calm down.

We didn't mean to offend you, but the post had as much to do with st pattys day as buying tons of toys has to do with Christmas.

I hate to bring up internet nerdzardry, but if you want to get the lo-down on how many places Kirk boldly went where no man had gone before, I recommend reading: http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/kirkgirls.htm

In short? 2. Kirk had sex with 2 ladies over the course of the show.

Bond banged dozens of ladies, sometimes more than one at a time. So if you want to go by the numbers, Bond wins by at least an order of magnitude. And don't get me started on Casino Royale (the good one from the '60s, not the one with the new gay bond who doesn't have sex with ladies anymore). Everybody in bed with everybody in that awesome one. Plus, Woody Allen as Jimmy Bond!

That being said, Dan still won the argument with honorable mention to Kyle's fist of fury. Fantastic. Definitely as classic as the amazing racism episode of Drinking Games.

Well this thread quickly descended into a clusterfuck of oversensitivity.

Bond is British.

The ladies love our various accents, well, unless you're from Liverpool.

Or Birmingham

Or Newcastle

Or Yorkshire

Or Manchester

Also, I seriously don't get the way Americans celebrate St Patrick's day.

Daystar Clarion:
Well this thread quickly descended into a clusterfuck of oversensitivity.

Bond is British.

The ladies love our various accents, well, unless you're from Liverpool.

Or Birmingham

Or Newcastle

Or Yorkshire

Or Manchester

Also, I seriously don't get the way Americans celebrated St Patrick's day.

You forgot Gloucester, or "Glottarrr" if you are a local. And I also don't get the way they celebrate, it is mostly just a drink a lot of irish stout day over here.

Wuvlycuddles:

Daystar Clarion:
Well this thread quickly descended into a clusterfuck of oversensitivity.

Bond is British.

The ladies love our various accents, well, unless you're from Liverpool.

Or Birmingham

Or Newcastle

Or Yorkshire

Or Manchester

Also, I seriously don't get the way Americans celebrated St Patrick's day.

You forgot Gloucester, or "Glottarrr" if you are a local. And I also don't get the way they celebrate, it is mostly just a drink a lot of irish stout day over here.

Indeed.

All I do is drink Guinness all day :D

Seriously.
Why wasn't Hank Moody on the list?

Now that I'm thinking about it, why was this even something to discuss? Hank could've snatched any girl right out of the hands of Bond and Kirk simultaneously, and proceed to wisecrack his way out of the door while the girls would be fighting over who gets the privilege to be the first one to suck his dick.

"Set Phasers To Win" Should have been the quote of the week really.

OT: The moment Dan said Jame's T. Kirk I knew that he was going to win. Also surprised that Dan makes Kyle laugh so many times throughout the episode but wasn't able to get a disqualification

The_root_of_all_evil:

St. Patrick's Day is around the corner, pretty much a holiday built around eating boiled meat and getting so drunk that Irish little people handing out gold from rainbows sounds plausible.

Offensive - Because it insults real people beliefs, and is ridiculously inaccurate even for a non-believer.

It's actually incredibly accurate for American non-believers, where the holiday has barely anything to do with religion and everything to do with leprechauns, wearing green, and drinking one's weight in beer. The fact that the creators of the show (and the majority of people on these forums) are American, should have indicated to you that they were referring to the American version of St. Patrick's Day, as opposed to the versions people everywhere else may celebrate.

It's one thing to find the American customs themselves to be offensive (which is a valid point of contention), but it doesn't make any sense to find the show's description of the American customs to be offensive.

OT: Ahhh yeah, James T. Kirk.

The_root_of_all_evil:
-snip-

For what is worth mate, I support you. As a mexican with some french heritage, I find a lot of comments in the regular American media to be biased and ignorant, but just sigh and remind me that it's not their fault to be thick, most of the time they don't do it with ill intentions.

Magnalian:
How is 9/11 anything like St. Patrick's Day?!

Because both are off limits to significant ammounts of people. I live in a country with 95% of chatolics, dissing the Saints is something to do with caution, the same as mocking 9/11 in Mississippi or Alabama.

OT: I would nominate Bruce Wayne over those two.

Us Americans really bastardized St. Patrick's Day into our own holiday that does involve copious amounts of alcohol being consumed until everyone can see a tiny Irish man (aka a Leprechaun.) NRA is made by Americans and thus know the American version of the holiday. Get over it people.

OT: Yeah, as soon as I heard Kirk come up it was over.

This was definitely one of your funniest episodes. I had to try to keep it down to a low snicker so I wouldn't look like the office crazy person. Thanks for the laugh!

To everyone getting offended about the drinking and St. Patrick's Day thing:

In America, we have converted every single day of celebration to drinking alcohol until we pass out. New Year's, Valentine's, President's, Spring Equinox, Mother's, Father's, Graduation, Independence, Summer Solstice, August, Autumn Equinox, Back to school, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Winter Solstice, Everything in the second half of December, Saturday. And those are just the nationally celebrated getting drunk days. We have all of the regional celebrations for drinking. In my area we have Cinco De Mayo, Dia De Los Muertos, Mexican Independence day and Thursday.

And the real right answer is Ash Ketchum. He's hooked up with ladies across different regions, and he's only 10.

krellen:
Kyle fought a noble battle, but I knew he was doomed from a second Dan said "James T. Kirk".

i could not agree more

bringing Kirk in to a 'who gets more tail' argument is like bring 40k in to a 'who would win' argument, its over before it even began

"He never called"

I legit knee slapped there

Let's get back on topic.
I really liked this episode, very good debate with lots of good points. It didn't hurt that the one I rooted for won in a landslide either. And also, how dare you say Nimoy and Kelley aren't attractive?

I'm confused about how "Kirk has no competition" is an argument for Kirk. Bond gets the girls while having actual competition - and in addition to everything else, it seems to me that Bond is truly the biggest Playa.

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