Why The Witcher 2 Needed an Enhanced Edition

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Why The Witcher 2 Needed an Enhanced Edition

CD Projekt vastly improved the unconventional RPG for the Xbox release.

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So, better or worse than Dragon Age 2?

Soooooo much better than DA2... Great game... I'm really impressed

Just so you know, Poles don't use cyrylic alphabet, we're stuck with the same set of letters as the majority of the world ;p Cyryllic aphabet was as weird for us as it was to any english speaking country.

Kahunaburger:
So, better or worse than Dragon Age 2?

It's easy to be better than DA2, it's like scoring higher than a 0 on a test. You get your name right and you're already halfway there.

Kahunaburger:
So, better or worse than Dragon Age 2?

Which one had its expansion canned again? I would say that one was worse.

I gotta say, I'm loving the game.

Combat is deep, signs are awesome, alchemy actually has a purpose and the whole game just feels fine tuned.

Roch is mah bro.

Kahunaburger:
So, better or worse than Dragon Age 2?

Still can't drink potions in combat = worse than DA2. Obviously.

There's still the awkward dialogue choice that allows players to play the prologue out of order.

Which I will never in a million years understand how people mixed up. Roche asks you to talk him through the day, after which you're presented the 4 options which are quite clearly in chronological order. Not exactly a leap of logic.

CD Projekt thankfully removed the annoyingly long animation of Geralt kneeling down, drinking potions, then throwing the bottle away. You still can't drink potions in combat, but I'll take what I can get.

Still in the PC's Enhanced Edition. And drinking potions outside of combat is both part of the lore and a valid element of the combat. It's pretty obvious when you're likely to encounter combat, and any 'surprise' parts (bar one pretty troublesome fight in the original version) are perfectly doable without potions.

Now that the update is available I have to wonder if I even want to play it again... I've already replayed it twice to take the different path and to ignore stuff to see how the story changes.

I'll probably wait for the third installment before playing it again with these enhancements, or if there is nothing to play once I finish my backlog.

Sorry, but I HAVE to mention this - I still cant wrap my head around the perfect score this website gave for DAII. And then we get an article on how TW2 needed an EE. Just saying.

Anyway, I hope you can turn those potion drinking animations back on. Im probably the only guy who liked them but meh. I liked em. Gave you a sense of preparation before jumping into combat.

I actually haven't played the game yet, despite pre-ordering it on GOG.com before its original release. With so many other games (and the Internet, and school) to distract me... I haven't even finished the original Witcher game. Going to try to do something about that this summer, if nothing else.

So glad they're making the menus easier to navigate. I'm still downloading the patch right now, so thanks for the taste of things to come, Mr. Tito!

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Sorry, but I HAVE to mention this - I still cant wrap my head around the perfect score this website gave for DAII. And then we get an article on how TW2 needed an EE. Just saying.

Anyway, I hope you can turn those potion drinking animations back on. Im probably the only guy who liked them but meh. I liked em. Gave you a sense of preparation before jumping into combat.

They're still there for me in the PC EE. And I am still wrapping my head around the 3 pages worth of review which didn't even devote a line to mention the importance of your choices - luckily I have completely refrained from mentioning it in this thread....

Woodsey:
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Pretty much this, I never got how people were confused by that, seemed pretty obvious to me.

Also any chance the fight your on about is

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
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Pretty much this too.

Anywho, I have yet to play the Enhanced Edition, my computers Graphics Card is fuct and with the limited funds I have, its either replace graphics card or go to Download Festival, and I'd rather go Download Festival.

Oh well, I can happily wait until after June to play it. Still waiting on a translated version of Times of Contempt for god sake, it better be coming out in December.

It's funny how much people rage about DA2. Yes, it's not as good as the first, and it may not deserve a perfect score, but it's not the worst RPG ever. It's at least enjoyable.

Please don't think that I'm trolling. I'm a big fan of both the escapist and its staff. It's only because I want to talk about it that I'm mentioning this.

I think Greg Tito didn't realize at the time that Witcher 2 was going to be this big!

Hence, his first take on the game was disregardful. All he wrote in his initial review was how punishingly difficult the beginning section was in contrast to a tutorial. I agree with him on that, but surely he could gather all his thoughts in a simple paragraph and move on to the rest 99%, which was amazing. I for one prefer someting a little unpolished, yet superior in content. How could one find Witcher 2 so lacking when none of its competitors include anything as remotely sophisticated as its atmosphere?

The game stands above all its competitors, its maturity is something completely fresh in the industry.

So I believe Greg Tito has finally seen that gamers will appreciate such a great game, hence he is backtracking from his negative comments now that Witcher 2 started to receive its most deserved praise.

El Luck:

Woodsey:
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Pretty much this, I never got how people were confused by that, seemed pretty obvious to me.

Also any chance the fight your on about is

Yeah, smacked me about like a bitch - of course, there are difficulty levels, so I just turned it down a notch. Certainly a flawed difficulty spike, but the amount of people who complained about the combat originally and refused to turn the difficulty down and instead stopped playing was rather bizarre.

Will be interesting to see if they've done anything with it in the EE, only just reached Flotsam again.

Finally downloaded the patch last night (12 gigs!). I remained ignorant of what, exactly, the Enhanced Edition was bringing to the table, and now I really can't wait to play the game for the 2nd time!

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Anyway, I hope you can turn those potion drinking animations back on. Im probably the only guy who liked them but meh. I liked em. Gave you a sense of preparation before jumping into combat.

What's changed in the EE is that you don't have to wait for Geralt to sit down before the menu appears, that happens much quicker. The animation for drinking a potion remains the same.

I liked the potion drinking animation as well. According to the lore (and they now include an exposition video on 'What is a Witcher' in the Extras menu), Witchers don't simply down a flask and get down to business - it involves a meditative trance that enhances the potion's effectiveness. That's the reason you can't do it in combat. And knowing this, I feel a sense of graveness about the act of drinking potions, and the animation helps in the immersion.

Woodsey:

El Luck:

Woodsey:
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Pretty much this, I never got how people were confused by that, seemed pretty obvious to me.

Also any chance the fight your on about is

Yeah, smacked me about like a bitch - of course, there are difficulty levels, so I just turned it down a notch.

I fortunately had a save just before hand, so I went back to that one, but bloody hell that fight was a pain, granted the way I had Geralt specced at that time he was quite lacking.

What does TW2 have anything to do DA2?

Aiberg:
I for one prefer someting a little unpolished, yet superior in content.

+1

And now that it is superior in content and polished, so much the better :D

Waaghpowa:

Kahunaburger:
So, better or worse than Dragon Age 2?

Which one had its expansion canned again? I would say that one was worse.

Haha that was a nice moment. The way all of the major gaming outlets that had pretended that DA2 was a good game handled that story was incredibly entertaining.

The 5/5 for DA2 will forever stain this site's credibility.

The EA ad revenue's probably worth it though.

Thoric485:
The 5/5 for DA2 will forever stain this site's credibility.

The EA ad revenue's probably worth it though.

And all the players who said they liked the game...were they also paid by EA? I'm curious. A good swath of the people in this very community really loved DA2, so are they also on the payroll?

Dragon age 2 wasn't bad on your first playthrough. You just realize that nothing you do has any consequence on your second playthrough and that pissed people off.

Christ can we not have an article about a fantasy RPG on this site without someone bringing up the damn DA2 review.It was over a year ago and it's a game that a lot of people enjoyed.Get over it FFS

animehermit:
What does TW2 have anything to do DA2?

A thousand times this.

Susan Arendt:

Thoric485:
The 5/5 for DA2 will forever stain this site's credibility.

The EA ad revenue's probably worth it though.

And all the players who said they liked the game...were they also paid by EA? I'm curious. A good swath of the people in this very community really loved DA2, so are they also on the payroll?

I like Final Fantasy XIII. Some people are just freaks.

Seriously, there appears to be a disconnect. If ME 3 is any indicator of what DAII was like, I can understand why people would have a problem with it. The terrible characterizations and corny, boring dialogue were almost too much. The games were released at the same time and DAII was a massive to many disappointment and TW2 wasn't.

CrossLOPER:

Susan Arendt:

Thoric485:
The 5/5 for DA2 will forever stain this site's credibility.

The EA ad revenue's probably worth it though.

And all the players who said they liked the game...were they also paid by EA? I'm curious. A good swath of the people in this very community really loved DA2, so are they also on the payroll?

I like Final Fantasy XIII. Some people are just freaks.

Seriously, there appears to be a disconnect. If ME 3 is any indicator of what DAII was like, I can understand why people would have a problem with it. The terrible characterizations and corny, boring dialogue were almost too much. The games were released at the same time and DAII was a massive to many disappointment and TW2 wasn't.

So you're saying that someone who likes DA2 is a freak? Sorry, but that's just bullshit. As is the idea that you're a freak for liking FF13.

I understand why people take issue with DA2, sure. But what I don't understand is this refusal to accept that some people didn't have those same issues.

There's nothing mature about The Witcher. There's a lot of content unfriendly to a child, but there's nothing at all mature in the product.

CrossLOPER:

Seriously, there appears to be a disconnect. If ME 3 is any indicator of what DAII was like, I can understand why people would have a problem with it.

Mass Effect 3 was much, much better than Dragon Age 2. Take that any way you like.

Greg Tito:
Sex and cursing, blood and filth, The Witcher 2's hallmarks work just as well on the console as they did on Steam - even if you can't pay a whore to do your bidding like you could in the 2011 version.

They took out the whores?! I liked the whores! =O
I always liked to roleplay that Geralt ended his day of witchery with a good old fashioned romp with the nearest doxy.

I'm sure it's still in the PC version, but I can't help but feel the poor console players are missing out on a vital aspect of the game. :P

Susan Arendt:

Thoric485:
The 5/5 for DA2 will forever stain this site's credibility.

The EA ad revenue's probably worth it though.

And all the players who said they liked the game...were they also paid by EA? I'm curious. A good swath of the people in this very community really loved DA2, so are they also on the payroll?

The question isn't whether this site is recieving money from EA - looking at the presence of EA ads, it obviously is. It's whether it has allowed that to influence its journalistic integrity, and in the case of DA2, I believe it did. It's a widely reviled title with multiple, serious flaws and can't be objectively given a perfect score.

And if reviews here are all opinion, with no objective weighing of aspects like graphics, gameplay, story - what does the score represent? Luck, that it fell to the right reviewer for it? Should we put every review from the User Reviews section up on Metacritic so it can too influence developers' bonuses and payrolls?

Grey Day for Elcia:
There's nothing mature about The Witcher. There's a lot of content unfriendly to a child, but there's nothing at all mature in the product.

How so?

Thoric485:
It's a widely reviled title with multiple, serious flaws and can't be objectively given a perfect score.

Objectively?

Newsflash: art is subjective and a review is the personal opinion of the individual giving it. No score is any more or less valid than any other. Just because you feel one way doesn't mean you are right. Simple, really.

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