Jimquisition: Better Does Not Mean Good

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Better Does Not Mean Good

Things in the game industry could be worst. We could all be living in the 80s, or we could be in Australia, beset by high prices and restricted ratings. We could also have no arms. We could have porcelain eyes. We could be killed by a Terminator to stop our children leading a revolution against a genocidal artificial intelligence.

Things could always be worse, but saying that to counter an argument about the North American videogame industry doesn't really prove a bloody thing.

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This episode could have been a lot worse.

DVS BSTrD:
This episode could have been a lot worse.

...but I'm not sure if it could've been better. I also find that people who espouse the "it could be worse, so shut your trap and take another dick in the arse" attitude are usually the ones who piss and moan about "entitlement" when people air legitimate grievances about a particular game/business model/whatever.

My response to someone telling me "It could be worse" on any topic:

By that logic, only one person in the world is allowed to complain, and that's the person who has it the WORST. So if I have to shut up, so do you.

No, no, no, no, no. Obviously EA are helping the UK by charging them more for the honor of playing their epic game. It must have cost a lot more money to translate it into English so they're going to have to bite the bullet on that one and just deal with it because hey, could be worse right and their doing it for the consumers.

I agree, we do need to make the games industry better. So that way, no one can say "it could be worse" ever again.

You seem to be missing a word on your cereal box:

I agree though. It's OK to complain, and even to make demands. I think some just have an overly extreme aversion to complaining, and only hearing "whining babies" no matter how legitimate the issue is. Or maybe some think that because they eat shit every day without complaining, that means everyone else should do the same without a word in protest.

As usual - awesome episode that uses the effective technique of ... erm, simple logic to prove its point that so many people can't seem to understand.
Also, the subtle product placement made me genuinely laugh out loud!

Thank God for Jim.

Subtle product placement Jim, subtle :D

I agree.

Being punched in the stomach is better than being kicked in the junk.

Doesn't mean I'm going to start lining up for gut punches any time soon.

Urh:

DVS BSTrD:
This episode could have been a lot worse.

...but I'm not sure if it could've been better. I also find that people who espouse the "it could be worse, so shut your trap and take another dick in the arse" attitude are usually the ones who piss and moan about "entitlement" when people air legitimate grievances about a particular game/business model/whatever.

Thats what I figure to.

also whenever someone whines about entitlement you can effectively write off anything they say because they cant make an actual argument.

OT: Good episode jim...Though I dunno why but now I am suddenly craving some cereal...

Oh mah gawd! Jim's advertisin' the Raisin Bran! Gotta go buy that shit!

Anyway, I definitely agree with this, and it's opened my eyes to the kind of crap we're going through. The kind of attitude that complacent gamers are displaying is going to keep the industry in a downward spiral. Seriously, guys. Buy games when they go on sale, buy used games, protest against DRM. If we don't, it's only going to get even worse.

Thank Jim for God.

The episide is good but examples arent.
Sure american poor may be poor, but they still live better than my countries rich.

There's a certain level of amusement to be had from Jim telling us he's not shilling when the video is surrounded by a God of War advert.

DVS BSTrD:
This episode could have been a lot worse.

And therefore, it was good. 5/5 stars for not driving a nail through my genitals!

What I want to know is if Jim just went out and bought that box of Raisin Bran to feature in the video, or if he really starts his days with two scoops of shriveled grapey goodness.

Strazdas:
The episide is good but examples arent.
Sure american poor may be poor, but they still live better than my countries rich.

So you're living on the streets, wondering when your next meal will be, and dreading winter...all while surfing the net on your computer?

I don't believe Jim is corrupt. However, there are concerns that have been raised that people are not necessarily wrong for thinking corruption would be a possibility. Schmoozing with industry people, free swag/games, insulting viewers/readers, scores being far from the average, reviewed games not being played to completion, handling pretty much all the reviews on Destructoid when there are many talented writers on staff, articles written with blatant trolling attempts... And there is probably more.

Jim is a good writer. I genuinely enjoy most of his reviews. I just feel like there is a disconnect in there somewhere.

Jim's got to be the only content provider that actually reads the forums around here.

I salute you sir, it is not an easy task to sift through so much shit.

Miracleofsound doesn't count since he was a community member before he got his show :P

So pretty much consumer Stockholm syndrome?

Thank you Jim for that life long lesson.Since I've been raised with the attitude "be satisfied with what you get" this became just as inspiring as some Extra Credits episodes.
I saw that thread you mentioned and my thought(which was already expressed by someone else) was "I go to both for completely different things,with different perception and expectation".

I shall pray for our Great Emperor!

Raisin Bran! Is the shit.... ;)

Sorry, we did not have time to get your raisins in by product launch. You can buy them in a separate pack for $2. They are a non integral part of the bran experience anyway, so this way consumers win by being able to choose just to eat bland crap.

Somebody should make a reference to this video the next time they stumble onto a EC v JQ or 'since when have we stopped hating Jim' topic.

There better be Fleshlights™ in the next episode or I'm calling the show phallophobic.

The Raisin Bran made me laugh more than it should have. But I have one question, does it come with day 1 spoon DLC?

It could be worse, yes, but we should be striving for something good and better.

Here's a comparison for you: the Jimquisition is to sushi like Extra Credits is to lead paint. You can consume both, but only one of them makes you dumber the more of it you take in.

Complacency and laziness go hand in hand.

People want the industry to change, then bail on the idea when it becomes actual work. It's why activism on the internet fails most of the time.

Heh, just gotta say I could tell with your other arm held down that something was going to be brought up, but still got a good laugh from the cereal box. XD Thanks for that Jim. :)

Keep up the good work man, always get a laugh and some incite from you.

Truthfully I'm pretty happy with the $60 price tag, it seems pricey but I get ten plus hours of enjoyment out of games so it's worth it, plus games drop in price rather quick so just wait six months and get it at half price. Some of the other stuff that is crap.

lord.jeff:
Truthfully I'm pretty happy with the $60 price tag, it seems pricey but I get ten plus hours of enjoyment out of games so it's worth it, plus games drop in price rather quick so just wait six months and get it at half price. Some of the other stuff that is crap.

Except the problem is that it isn't just good games that are $60, with the rest being priced based on how long they are, multiplayer.etc - they are ALL $60 at release. Just because you are happy to pay that for a game that might turn out to be shite, doesn't mean everyone else should be.

Aureliano:
Here's a comparison for you: the Jimquisition is to sushi like Extra Credits is to lead paint. You can consume both, but only one of them makes you dumber the more of it you take in.

Yeah, sushi has never done right by my digestive system. Clearly only morons would eat it.

Great episode as always Jim. However, can I still point out that games actually used to be more expensive when people start complaining about how much more expensive games are these days? I think that should still be totally legal.

40 for a new game is quite high, especially since I lost my job, yet I dont really mind paying that much for it either. If a game passes my money-enjoyment theory, then I'm pretty content most of the time.

1/hour. If I get the same amount of hours out of a game as the amount of pounds I paid for it, then I dont feel like I've been fucked. Yes, that does include multiplayer too.

Right I have people responding to this comment, but not seeing the rest of my comments later where my point is better clarified, so I'm going to post ALL of my posts on this topic here.

Urh:

DVS BSTrD:
This episode could have been a lot worse.

...but I'm not sure if it could've been better. I also find that people who espouse the "it could be worse, so shut your trap and take another dick in the arse" attitude are usually the ones who piss and moan about "entitlement" when people air legitimate grievances about a particular game/business model/whatever.

As a person who see's an issue with entitlement among gamers, I resent that. People do throw that buzz word around a bit too much, but it is a problem in some cases.

When gamers chastise a developer about a game for being "consolised" or being dumbed down, arguing that the developers don't care about their franchise and fans that follow them, ignoring the fact that the "streamlining" is intended to make a game more accessible to people with less tolerance to inefficient/unwieldy designs, and that audience being just as entitled to the games as you (but not as patient with games as you) since they will pay for it with money that is of equal value to your own... . Ergo, Entitlement. Your investment is equal to theirs, you have no real ground to argue otherwise (beyond feeling entitled).

Or gamers who complain about DLC in a general sense, associating all DLC with CoD map packs and weapon/armour/skin packs, while plenty of developers who have released complete games and merely want to extend playability post release and offer substantial DLC in place of the old Expansion pack system. These gamers think that DLC is intrinsically bad because they have to pay for more content and feel as though they deserve that content for buying the full game they already have. No you don't. It's optional, you don't need it unless you want to play more of that game but with NEW content. These are Entitlement issues.

*An example of this one would be the Deus Ex: HR game. When the "Missing Link" DLC was released, it added finished piece of content was cut entirely from the original release. The Developers figured the content was worth having in the game so reworked it into a full DLC (with 3-5 hours game play added to the game) and took on criticisms from the main game and experimented with solutions in the DLC.
However, people argued that because the content, in one form or other, was originally intended to be in the game in order to flesh out certain plot points, they were somehow entitled to the DLC at no cost. I have many problems with that.

However, situations where people throw the entitlement card down and in the process promote and praise bad Producer/Consumer relations, should be checked and confronted. When a Company treats it's customers like sheep or cattle of some form, seeing them as something to be exploited rather then being their only lifeline... that's when shit becomes a problem. On Disk DLC (as sterling argued before), Online passes, actions that diminish consumer power (attempts to demonise the used game market), Intrusive DRM, regional price differences... all these things are detestable and are only pushed by Companies who think they can get away with pull the rug from under us by telling us it's for our own good or that we don't understand...

No, YOU don't understand mister business man... you're here FOR US. If your very presence upsets the blood of your business (the consumer and their wallet) then you are doing something fucking awful.

EDIT: also, sorry for everyone who get's a message only to be shown this mess of a post.

Jim's life quote of the day; "Don't be a silly Billy!"

How about we say, "Could be better, could be worse, but lets aim for better.", from now on?

Also perfect bit at the start with the cereal.

Aureliano:
Here's a comparison for you: the Jimquisition is to sushi like Extra Credits is to lead paint. You can consume both, but only one of them makes you dumber the more of it you take in.

I don't know, man; I've had sushi. (:P

utter brilliance

the timing of the Raisin Bran

the argument on the whole, some of the examples where a bit off but, but the point was made

and far as the argument it self goes, your right, could be worse, but the problem is on the consumer end as i see it, soon people wake up and stop giving money to these company's that clearly don't like us, the sooner they can start improving, or, they can die.

and as i've said before, I'm fine with ether result

BLATANT PRODUCT PLACEMENT!!! JIM YOU ARE SUCH A SELLOUUUT!!!!!!

....Ahem.

Ok, silliness aside, I agree with Jim. I hate seeing that argument. I complain that our Canadian Prime Minister is shitting on our country and wants to spy on everyone and turn Canada into the US, and some people go "Oh yeah? Well, people in Africa are dying of aids and are being enslaved, so you have no right to complain!"

It's a stupid argument, and if everyone followed it, then we would ALL have shitty lives, no matter where we are. Fighting to improve your good life, or at least keep it from getting worse isn't entitlement. It doesn't take away from the validity of our arguments, even when others have it worse than us (which we can't even affect anyway). It's something that we NEED to do, or else we WILL get fucked.

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