Hitman: Plan B

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Rblade:
Because there is no such thing as bad publicity and boy, are we talking about this.

There's no such thing as bad publicity if no one knows who you are. In any other situation, that adage suggests the mindset of a child throwing a tantrum so they can get any attention.

We're talking about it, but will we buy it? After this, I won't. And I'm sure I'm not the only one in that range.

Look at all the publicity DNF managed to wrack up. Did you buy it? Did I? Did anyone? That game dropped to $5 awfully fast. It had a lot of publicity, and most of the department stores still can't get rid of their preorder copies around here.

Starke:
It says it by not being funny. There's no joke. Nothing amusing. To be fair, I wouldn't call it disturbing either, but my own apathy towards brutality is pretty well documented.

I'm tempted to drag up that old line about porn... "I don't know what parody is, but I know it when I see it," this isn't parody. It's not wandering into the ridiculous to tell a joke. It's really trying to be serious, edgy, and whatever other random adjective that some exec wanted in the add.

You might not share the same humour as many others do, I found its absurdity funny, not "ha ha" funny but "heh" funny.

Boris Goodenough:

Starke:
It says it by not being funny. There's no joke. Nothing amusing. To be fair, I wouldn't call it disturbing either, but my own apathy towards brutality is pretty well documented.

I'm tempted to drag up that old line about porn... "I don't know what parody is, but I know it when I see it," this isn't parody. It's not wandering into the ridiculous to tell a joke. It's really trying to be serious, edgy, and whatever other random adjective that some exec wanted in the add.

You might not share the same humour as many others do, I found its absurdity funny, not "ha ha" funny but "heh" funny.

True so far as it goes. I find it hilarious, that there was an idiot in marketing dumb enough to greenlight this mess. But as for the video itself, there isn't really a joke here that doesn't end with egg on the publisher's face.

Vrex360:
Huh, evidently the message needs to be more overt.

IT IS NOT THAT WOMEN DIED IN THE AD, IT'S BECAUSE THEY FELT THE NEED TO SEXUALIZE THE WOMEN DYING THAT IS THE CAUSE OF CONTROVERSY!!

Can we stop with the fucking 'if it were men you wouldn't be angry' bullshit now? Because if it were men, then they wouldn't be being sexualized!! Which is the reason that there was a controversy!

My god I can't believe so many people can read the woman's article and completely miss the point that she made over and over again and instead make up an argument born of their own imagination and diminish it.
Can you say 'Straw man in pathetic attempt to portray wounded puppy routine'?

I've already made a massive post on this so I'll leave the link for it:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.376929-My-views-on-the-controversy-over-the-new-Hitman-trailer?page=2#14702444

No offence Grey, but I'd hoped you of all people would have a better understanding of what the issue was. I like your work, it's pretty smart and well done for the most part and I like the character Erin Stout that you created, I just don't like it when people add to the fire rather than put it out.

EDIT: Oh never mind, just saw that you quote mined one out-of-context section of her argument and didn't leave a link to the article for people check. I'm just going to leave a link and leave a quote from her article:

"Let's be clear here: the problem is not that Agent 47 is graphically murdering a group of women, though that's pretty nasty. It's that it fetishizes the violence and sexualises the women, drawing a clear line between sex and graphic violence that makes the trailer really distressing to watch, and leaves you questioning who the hell it's designed to appeal to."

Source:http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/05/30/opinion-what-the-hell-is-with-that-hitman-trailer

EDIT: Also she doesn't project an ideology onto the ad, that bit about them 'deserving it' was just a passing reference.

Thank god. Someone gets it. Christ, the complaint isn't that women are killed. The problem isn't the nun outfits or that they are women. It is what they are wearing after they take off the nun outfits.
Point is, we will never see a trailer of a bunch of male assassins in tight shorts with no shirts on getting murdered while the camera does close ups of their pecks and asses.

Why is everyone acting so surprised? This a period in gaming that still has Soul Calibur and Dead or Alive and Bayonetta and a score of other games I can't even think of where women are sexualised.

But you know what? This trailer shows that Hitman is taking a turn for the weird and surreal which is not something that happens enough in games.

Vrex360:
Huh, evidently the message needs to be more overt.

IT IS NOT THAT WOMEN DIED IN THE AD, IT'S BECAUSE THEY FELT THE NEED TO SEXUALIZE THE WOMEN DYING THAT IS THE CAUSE OF CONTROVERSY!!

Can we stop with the fucking 'if it were men you wouldn't be angry' bullshit now? Because if it were men, then they wouldn't be being sexualized!! Which is the reason that there was a controversy!

My god I can't believe so many people can read the woman's article and completely miss the point that she made over and over again and instead make up an argument born of their own imagination and diminish it.
Can you say 'Straw man in pathetic attempt to portray wounded puppy routine'?

I've already made a massive post on this so I'll leave the link for it:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.376929-My-views-on-the-controversy-over-the-new-Hitman-trailer?page=2#14702444

No offence Grey, but I'd hoped you of all people would have a better understanding of what the issue was. I like your work, it's pretty smart and well done for the most part and I like the character Erin Stout that you created, I just don't like it when people add to the fire rather than put it out.

EDIT: Oh never mind, just saw that you quote mined one out-of-context section of her argument and didn't leave a link to the article for people check. I'm just going to leave a link and leave a quote from her article:

"Let's be clear here: the problem is not that Agent 47 is graphically murdering a group of women, though that's pretty nasty. It's that it fetishizes the violence and sexualises the women, drawing a clear line between sex and graphic violence that makes the trailer really distressing to watch, and leaves you questioning who the hell it's designed to appeal to."

Source:http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/05/30/opinion-what-the-hell-is-with-that-hitman-trailer

EDIT: Also she doesn't project an ideology onto the ad, that bit about them 'deserving it' was just a passing reference.

I don't know if you know this, but Hitman is all about sex and violence. Ever played Hitman: Blood Money. Don't even get me started.

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