Jimquisition: Why Do People Hate EA?

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Jim, I, like you, used to take pride in playing an EA game, knowing these were people who care about QUALITY PRODUCT and HAVING FUN, like with the old Medal of Honor titles and Command & Conquer. Now their moves are forehead-slappingly dumb.
Also, I like how you uses clips from the new Syndicate game to illustrate your point on EA's corporate incompetence. I almost forgot that was made by EA.

I showed my friend's girlfriend this after she asked me why I hated a company so much, because I was ranting loudly about EA to my friend.

Thank God for Jim.

Also: [I would like a Gravity Rush t-shirt, and Jim is the single visual stimulus that stirs the coals in the fireplace of my loins, and undoubtedly legions of others, as well.]

Wow, look at all the comments all of a sudden...


Eh, who am I kidding?

OT: The only reason why I don't like EA is because of the freakin' lame excuses of a game they've been releasing as of lately. They've got potential, yes, but they're too busy being cynical pricks that they don't even bother. It's the same reason why I'm starting to dislike Square-Enix. And I LOVE Square-Enix. Only it works in reverse for them; they're being too dumb dicking around doing whatever instead of releasing a game worth getting without a single regret.

Anyway, here it goes...

I would like the Gravity Rush shirt. AndJimissexy.

Yeah, I'm probably a size S for girls...but eh, I'm greedy. I'd wear it anyway as a gown or whatever. Or for sexy showers. With a loofah. And pillow fights with fellow girls. On a hot, summer night. In the dark. While dressed up as Master Chief.

Just some thoughts.

I can't help but feel that this entire discussion is pointless. I wonder of many people in this thread have bought EA titles, and will continue to do so. I would guess quite a few.

So unless Jim actually want us to form a murderous mob and go knocking on EA's door (at it almost sounds like he does), about the only thing we can do to send a message to EA that we're not okay with this "anti-consumerist behavior" is to quit buying their products. And we all know that's not going to happen. So what's the point?

Perhaps I'm just jaded but EA's been the devil of video games for quite a while. With all their games they just continually vomit forth that are super hyped but suck bad I just try my damndest to not buy from them(of course that doesn't always work...). I never really buy many Activison games so I can't really comment on how bad they are.

(I would like a Gravity Rush shirt please, and Jim is sexy)

Excellent and justified rage. I can't understand why IGN would side with EA, it certainly won't be winning any respect for them.

Now for my parasitic begging -
(I would like a Gravity Rush tee-shirt please, also, Jim is sexy)

Thanks Jim. I was a little unclear about why people actually hate EA and this video helped me understand. The only part i disagree with is the part about them trying to make an MMO to compete with WoW. I actually like Warhammer online: Age of Reckoning a lot better than WoW.
[I would like a Gravity Rush shirt, please. Also Jim is sexy]

Martin Toney:
People are far to entitled in modern gaming, so when something pops up that they don't like, its all ire and fury. It's best not to forget that if it wasn't for companies like EA, we wouldn't have some of the games we love. But that's just my opinion.
ps: if anyone feels the need to reply to this comment, don't start by saying "by your logic". I'm getting sick of morons saying it. Saying "logic" doesn't make you sound smart, nor does it make your opinion any more valid.

What games are those? I'd assume if someone damages your hobby you'd be angry at them too and EA actively harms gaming as a hobby by practising strategies which only serve to give them small gain in the short run and have damaging, long lasting consequences in return

Anyway as for your last part that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. When people use the " by your logic" argument they are throwing back your arguments in a different scenario to show how dumb it is.
Its not used to make anyone sound smart, its used in arguments to show the fallacies present in the oppositions argument. Which does in fact help making someone's opinion more valid.

The only thing you presented in comparison, is the buzzword "entitled" ( something which you no doubt got off Kotaku or IGN, because they are the ones that spew that nonsense, just an FYI it means nothing at all) as if it actually means anything.

Omnicide:
After skimming this whole thread I only saw one mention of this video:

That is perhaps the funniest thing I've ever seen.

Lol for a moment I thought that Jim was about to defend EA because of the title of the episode. Thankfully I was proved wrong.

(by the way I want that fucken shirt jim. Yeah that's right, that one, that one you're holding in your sexy man-panther paws. Thank God for your man-panther paws.)

Great Jimquisition, my only problem with this and most of his and other shows that rant about company polcies is that its basically us just circle-jerking because there is no way anyone of influence at EA is going to see this or care.

Just out of curiosity: how many copies does Nintendo sell of their moneyprinting franchises? Because there's no way in Heaven, Hell or inbetween that DS3 is more popular than, ay, Mario.

Funny that IGN isn't even trying to pretend they're not gleefully in bed with the publishers these days.

My biggest surprise at all of this is IGN running an article like that. Would it really be hard to post some kind of forum thread to gather opinions and use the intelligent, thought-out looking ones as some kind of basis? Even if they're going to talk with EA about it in the end, they could at least be armed with some opinions from actual gamers and they could ask EA to respond to those opinions instead of just broadly asking EA talk puppets why people hate them.

[I would like a Gravity Rush shirt, please. Also, Jim is sexy.]

Darth_Payn:
Jim, I, like you, used to take pride in playing an EA game, knowing these were people who care about QUALITY PRODUCT and HAVING FUN, like with the old Medal of Honor titles and Command & Conquer.

Command and conquer was made by westwood, when EA took over apparently things all went down hill, westwood basically got disbanded, and ea made C&C generals and onward i think. (cancelling the sequals westwood was developing).

Certainly not all bad, but i feel it would have been better had they not gone in and stepped all over westwood studios. The red alert and tiberium series of games were both meant to tie in together, i was looking forward to seeing how they would do it, but EA went in a different direction unfortunately.

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edit: as for the topic.

I think maybe jim might have slightly missed the point of asking EA. I think the reason they did it was so that people could then compare what EA think people don't like about them to what people actually don't like about them, so we can see whether EA is actually on the same page as everyone else.

thank god for me...... I love robots. does gravity rush have robots?

dam, want that shit... he

but I have fmaily in america XD

reply to my previoius comment

BBboy20:

Omnicide:
After skimming this whole thread I only saw one mention of this video:

That is perhaps the funniest thing I've ever seen.

lol. that was really funny. LOL
really a nice video. thats how €A works.

NitehawkFury:
I'm not naive enough to think that EA is going to immediately start to change its ways, (no matter how deftly Jim utilizes his superpowers), but since the "Worst Company Ever" image became official, I noticed how Mass Effect 3 DLC became mysteriously free, which again offered that glimmer of hope.

They're playing it smart with ME 3 content. Whereas the new maps are free, the new classes and weapons have to be adquired, either by in-game currency or by microtransactions. The random equipment packages are a smart way of monetizing the MP DLC without actually looking like it.
Now, I don't want to give the wrong impression: I believe the way the ME team handled this was brilliant, as all content can be available for "free" (by investing time in the game, hence keeping higher server population for multiplayer to continue) whereas people strapped for time can sink in the money that supports multiplayer continued expansion. In a sense, it is not unlike Team Fortress 2 (which the rather notable difference that in TF2, the cash doesn't result in random, unless buying keys).

I'm surprised that this round mound of sound is still on!
Was there a REAL point to this weeks drivel?

Sushewakka:

NitehawkFury:
I'm not naive enough to think that EA is going to immediately start to change its ways, (no matter how deftly Jim utilizes his superpowers), but since the "Worst Company Ever" image became official, I noticed how Mass Effect 3 DLC became mysteriously free, which again offered that glimmer of hope.

They're playing it smart with ME 3 content. Whereas the new maps are free, the new classes and weapons have to be adquired, either by in-game currency or by microtransactions. The random equipment packages are a smart way of monetizing the MP DLC without actually looking like it.
Now, I don't want to give the wrong impression: I believe the way the ME team handled this was brilliant, as all content can be available for "free" (by investing time in the game, hence keeping higher server population for multiplayer to continue) whereas people strapped for time can sink in the money that supports multiplayer continued expansion. In a sense, it is not unlike Team Fortress 2 (which the rather notable difference that in TF2, the cash doesn't result in random, unless buying keys).

The thing is, I don't really mind that. The same as I never really mind when other games offer the "unlock everything" downloads. As long as the regular player can legitimately get everything that the dude with money can, that's fine by me. (But that's a completely different discussion, entirely.)

If EA (and other companies, for that matter) were to look at these kinds of strategies and implement them intelligently, perhaps there wouldn't be as many outcries when companies look to increase their revenue streams and increase the length of the "sales tail" on a game.

As a consumer what can I do to get them to change? With things the way they are I haven't bought a new console game for awhile. The last one I bought was ME3's Collector's Edition and even then I had to buy it off of Amazon. As far as I know, It's the last Bioware/EA game I'll support.

I really do find it kind of amusing that Activision doesn't even have to try to make themselves look better. Is that a strategy, now? 'Let's just let EA fuck things up while we keep on keepin' on.'? I... I am puzzled by this.

[I would like a Gravity Rush shirt, please. Also, Jim is sexy. All of that in one thi--oh wait.]

Its actually astounding the industry has not fallen on it's ass yet. You gotta wonder if every executive at EA is stupid bastard or just the majority of them.
*i can has shirt now?
*All the girls fail to keep their panties dry when Jim walks in.

EA will fold in on itself and shut down, the companies they gobbled up will go independent again, get gobbled up by some other big fish, or join into their own coalition to prevent that. Life will go on ad nauseam.

ProtoChimp:

SkarKrow:
Everything wrong with EA can be summarised by playing Bad Company 2 for a few hours.
Then play Battlefield 3.

See the difference?
I thought so.

I haven't played either and don't intend to. Are they the same or something? Sorry to shit on the joke.

Don't worry about it it wasn't really a joke.

No, but Bad Company 2 had something more unqieu about it, it set itself apart and was fun in it's own way.
Battlefield 3 is like playing COD on maps that are too big with less effective balancing and the complete inability to find a standard-rules game on consoles anymore.

Also BC2 had a shitload of free maps if you bought new. And the destruction physics we're good and indeed useful. Whereas BF3 puts all it's fancy engine powers to work on obnoxious lens flare.

Mysnomer:

SkarKrow:
Everything wrong with EA can be summarised by playing Bad Company 2 for a few hours.
Then play Battlefield 3.

See the difference?
I thought so.

Truth be told, you can even see such issues in the transition from the original Bad Company to its sequel.

I'm left wondering if the best solution would simply be for EA to collapse under it's own tremendous, unsustainable weight, allowing its IPs to scatter to studios that might actually care to grow them as unique series. Granted, you lose competition in the market place, but it's not like EA was healthy competition to begin with...

[I would like a Gravity Rush shirt please. Jim is totally sexy.]

Yeah BC2 was alot differet than BC1, but it was still a fairly unique game and I enjoyed it a lot. BF3 was just so bland and boring, especially after unlocking everything.

I prefer smashing down buildings with tanks that feel like tanks to being blinded by annoying lighting effects and killed in the blink of an eye in a tank made of paper. To summarise...

Eric the Orange:
Activision: "We're Not EA"

You know if Activision says that in a future interview and it sounds and feels positive.
Something's definitely wrong.

I agree with this video and everything in it. EA being shit seems to be one of those things that just goes without saying. I am thankful that someone has finally done something like this though. Whilst EA's level of shitness was a given, any other time they'd been brought up on it in a public forum it had just been...lacking. Jim's zealousness is greatly appreciated, but personally I would have sworn more, sucker.
Activision might sell more games if "Not as bad as EA" was their slogan.

(Also I would like the gravity rush T-shirt please. I don't know what it is and I think PS vita is shit, But that t-shirt looks cool. And Jim is sexy lots.)

Best episode yet? I think so.
I never thought I would dislike a company as much as I dislike EA.

(I don't really care about the shirt, but Jim is indeed sexy.)

EA in 2034: "John Riccitello's 34th clone announced their newest IP, scheduled for release in Q3 '35. Call of Dead Effect Duty Space-Mass, Sims Edition, will be the grayest, most impersonal morass of unimaginative gameplay ever conceived and we, as brainwashed drones preprogrammed to be compliant with the corporation's desires, are content to keep it afloat with its required twenty million units shipped for the project to be solvent.

Shoot Necromorphs and Russians while telling your point man to go potty because his Bladder bar decreased in the red, and use Biotics to gain a tactical advantage, if you're willing to splurge eighty bucks for the season pass and twelve bucks for the DLC itself. Bullets have their own DLC bracket, and word is that your character would have an Oxygen meter, requiring the next level of price-gouging FUN in order to fully enjoy the game - although the hypoxiphiliacs who enjoy choking to death will appreciate having the option not to pay, even though this means instantly losing the game.

Truly gripping stuff. I, for one, cannot wait to play this game."

EA is freaking evil. They buy up any studio that sees even a glimmer of success and then shoves so much money up its ass they die. But ea keeps shoving money into it so they don't notice for awhile that its a bloated rotting mess of what it once was.

[I would like a free t-shirt, also Jim Sterling is quiet possibly the sexist man alive]

I'm starting to wonder quite what these companies are even doing now.
I mean, at what point does someone stop being as in tune to things as they were? Oh, right, remaking the same shooters at too high a cost.
Fair point.

Jim is very sexy. I'll pay for P&P. Shirts are nice.

mcnally86:

Vigormortis:

[on a side note, do not take my message as a personal attack or anything. I just get sick of hearing people complain about the offline-mode, seeing as it's actually quite reliable now. I also get sick of people complaining about aspects of Steam that either aren't an issue or aren't as bad as these people claim; all the while the REAL issues with Steam go unnoticed. Or rather, un-complained-about. Like the lack of currency conversion in the store, the somewhat buggy cloud-save feature for some games, or the frequency with which the Friends network has been going down lately. Those are just a few of the things that need to be complained about now; the things that actually need fixing.]

I complain about steams tech support. Is fairly unhelpfull. They will pawn you off on the developer enven when steam is the one causeing the issue. I had a problem with Bioshock 2. They kept sending me elsewhere to find help when it was a steam issue. They repeatedly told me it with the developers fault. Eventually I found the problem. Apparently the game ran in DX9 but the launcher made it launch DX10. I found them out and told them and they still had no help from me. "Take it to the devs," they said, "its not our fault". Finally I found a random forum somewhere that said where to put some code in for the steam launcher.

But yeah anyway it was their problem and they blamed it on other people. I don't like tech support that does that.

Now see, this is what I mean.

Though I've never had issue with their customer/tech support the times I've had to use it, I know people who have. And while no customer service is perfect, Valve's could still use some work. It's definitely one area I think they need to expand their work force in. (even if it means outsourcing it)

I also wish they made the launch-options window a bit more...obvious. At least. to the average user.

Well said. I'm amazed EA won't listen to all the complaints, and yet people will buy their games anyway... *SIGH*

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