The Great Resident Evil 2 Coverup

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The Great Resident Evil 2 Coverup

Leon might've let go of Ada Wong on purpose.

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I need to get around to playing this game.

I've played 1,4 and 5 of the main series.

OT It's shit that Capcom decided to paste over what sounds to be a great bit of one of their games.

Correct me if I'm wrong because I really don't feel like firing up the game to double check but can't you inspect Ada's fallen gun after she plummets to which Leon realizes that it was empty all along?

edit: Yea actually I found a video on youtube showing this entire scene and Leon checks Ada's gun after it clearly says that there were no rounds in the magazine.

Link for those interested http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KCYPaPQ4bA The scene described where Ada is outed starts at 2:46:50ish and goes from there. If you watch the video Ada says goodbye Leon tries to pull her up and Ada is the one who lets go of Leon's wrist.

As you may or may not remember, Resident Evil 2 has a total of four different endings. Playing through either the disc one or disc two with a fresh save file yields different versions of events for both Leon and Claire, called "Leon A" and "Claire A." But when you beat the game using one disc, a save file is created allowing you to play through the game with the other character. These stories are labeled "Leon B" and "Claire B," and they feature some big changes from the A versions.

Also RE2 didn't have 4 different endings it had 2. The whole A/B scenario thing was basically who ended up on which side of the accident in the opening intro. If you played Claire A then Leon's B scenario was the corresponding story to hers. It wasn't a whole new story as much as it was "what the other character was doing the whole time" so imo Capcom really didn't bastardize canon by simply saying Claire A and Leon B were what happened over Leon A Claire B. Trust me I think Capcom has been terrible when it comes picking and choosing what actually happened in RE games vs what they said happened but I don't think choosing Claire/Leon over Leon/Claire is their worst offense by a long shot.

toomuchnothing:
Correct me if I'm wrong because I really don't feel like firing up the game to double check but can't you inspect Ada's fallen gun after she plummets to which Leon realizes that it was empty all along?

Having played the game about two weeks ago, yes, he tells you the gun is empty. I think he then says something like "Why'd she do that?" in his internal narration.

The original Resident Evil series has a bunch of plot explanations and other things made by fans... It's one of the things I liked best, and something I didn't get from 4 and 5. I'm not sure how convinced I am by this article, but it was *definitely* a good read. I like when a game can give you a pretty full story but you can still take all the evidence and piece together enough of the puzzle to see a picture, but be vague enough for discussions of what happens :)

And now I want to go and play Resident Evil 2 again. Oh wait... I don't have it any more.

toomuchnothing:

As you may or may not remember, Resident Evil 2 has a total of four different endings. Playing through either the disc one or disc two with a fresh save file yields different versions of events for both Leon and Claire, called "Leon A" and "Claire A." But when you beat the game using one disc, a save file is created allowing you to play through the game with the other character. These stories are labeled "Leon B" and "Claire B," and they feature some big changes from the A versions.

Also RE2 didn't have 4 different endings it had 2. The whole A/B scenario thing was basically who ended up on which side of the accident in the opening intro. If you played Claire A then Leon's B scenario was the corresponding story to hers. It wasn't a whole new story as much as it was "what the other character was doing the whole time" so imo Capcom really didn't bastardize canon by simply saying Claire A and Leon B were what happened over Leon A Claire B. Trust me I think Capcom has been terrible when it comes picking and choosing what actually happened in RE games vs what they said happened but I don't think choosing Claire/Leon over Leon/Claire is their worst offense by a long shot.

Beat me to it. The A and B scenario are the same story, just from a different perspective. Clair A and Leon A are essentially the same. I personally always thought of Clair A/ Leon B as canon though, but thats just me.

Not to destroy a good conspiracy theory but Leon is kind of a moron and I don't think he's mentally capable of making that kind of decision. He's good at killing stuff, not getting killed by stuff and pushing/pulling stuff but still, he's a moron.
I remember when I was playing RE2 for the first time and getting to the scene where Annette explains to Leon that Ada is a spy. He then replies:
"Ada wouldn't do that. I know her!"
Dude, you met her a few hours ago and you had like 2 conversations with her. What the fuck can you possibly know about her? Stop thinking with your dick!
It was 1998 and I was just a 13 year old kid but I thought "Man, is this guy dumb".

This reminds me of my hypothesis that Deckard Cain was manipulating the events of Diablo 1 and 2 in order to fulfill a pact his ancestor made with the Prime Evils.

HardkorSB:
Not to destroy a good conspiracy theory but Leon is kind of a moron and I don't think he's mentally capable of making that kind of decision. He's good at killing stuff, not getting killed by stuff and pushing/pulling stuff but still, he's a moron.
I remember when I was playing RE2 for the first time and getting to the scene where Annette explains to Leon that Ada is a spy. He then replies:
"Ada wouldn't do that. I know her!"
Dude, you met her a few hours ago and you had like 2 conversations with her. What the fuck can you possibly know about her? Stop thinking with your dick!
It was 1998 and I was just a 13 year old kid but I thought "Man, is this guy dumb".

Also, Leon is pretty quick to take Ada's side when she's questioning Ben Bertolucci.

"Ben... you told the city officials that you knew something about what's
going on... What did you tell them?"

Yeah, that doesn't sound vaguely ominous the way she says that.

Sorry, but nothing Leon does in the game suggests he'd be willing to drop Ada like that.

Kungfu_Teddybear:
And now I want to go and play Resident Evil 2 again. Oh wait... I don't have it any more.

It's available on PSN for $10.

How is anyone surprised that Capcom is screwing the pooch on plot lines? It's not like they've had a decent writer on staff at any point in their history outside of the Megaman Legends series and some of the earlier Battle Network games.

I have fond memories of Resident Evil 2, but I seriously doubt Capcom has such snazzy writting skills.

I'm afraid this is just another case of someone reading too much into a story.

Sorry, but after playing every main story RE game, and the two Wii rail shooters which goes over every game in the main series, I can tell you with 100% chance certainty that there's no chance in hell that the Capcom RE writing staff is clever enough for anything like that.

Osaka117:
Sorry, but after playing every main story RE game, and the two Wii rail shooters which goes over every game in the main series, I can tell you with 100% chance certainty that there's no chance in hell that the Capcom RE writing staff is clever enough for anything like that.

I'm inclined to agree. You're projecting a MUCH better plot and writing onto RE2 than actually exists.

You also can't make the argument that the writing was better back then. I have two words for you, Jill Sandwich.

WanderingFool:

toomuchnothing:

As you may or may not remember, Resident Evil 2 has a total of four different endings. Playing through either the disc one or disc two with a fresh save file yields different versions of events for both Leon and Claire, called "Leon A" and "Claire A." But when you beat the game using one disc, a save file is created allowing you to play through the game with the other character. These stories are labeled "Leon B" and "Claire B," and they feature some big changes from the A versions.

Also RE2 didn't have 4 different endings it had 2. The whole A/B scenario thing was basically who ended up on which side of the accident in the opening intro. If you played Claire A then Leon's B scenario was the corresponding story to hers. It wasn't a whole new story as much as it was "what the other character was doing the whole time" so imo Capcom really didn't bastardize canon by simply saying Claire A and Leon B were what happened over Leon A Claire B. Trust me I think Capcom has been terrible when it comes picking and choosing what actually happened in RE games vs what they said happened but I don't think choosing Claire/Leon over Leon/Claire is their worst offense by a long shot.

Beat me to it. The A and B scenario are the same story, just from a different perspective. Clair A and Leon A are essentially the same. I personally always thought of Clair A/ Leon B as canon though, but thats just me.

I would like to go ahead and third this.
The A/B scenarios aren't entirely different plotlines Leon B is what Leon does during Claire A, and vice versa. So picking Claire A/Leon B as 'canon' makes perfect sense as you couldn't actually have Claire A/Leon A happen together the way the game is set up.

I specifically remember all this from when I played RE2 as a kid because it blew my fucking mind when I played my first 'B' scenario. If memory serves me I preferred the Claire A/Leon B telling of the story anyways, though I can't remember exactly why.

I think Ada would be lucky to not be aerating her skull|
That kind of reaction is fairly typical of my mood towards characters I feel even have the potential to be a danger to me in future let alone have back stabbed me.
Look at lautrec from dark souls, he was dead the second he walked out of his cell even if he did not know it yet and I didn't even know he kills the firekeeper

Thanks for the article, it's nice to go back to a series after a while and look at it from fresh eyes, or new perspectives. I enjoy that kind of storytelling in games, where each person can read into the story whatever they choose.

At any rate, Capcom can re-write or gloss over what they think is the "official canon" but each person who plays the games is going to take from the story their own interpretation.

I always thought Claire A - Leon B made the most sense anyway.

NuclearShadow:
It's been so many years but I could swear that the game says something along the line of "true" events.

It mentions seeing the "true ending" in the beginning, uh... text narration after the truck crashes.

MikeWehner:
But this time, rather than assuming Ada simply slipped, look at the scene through Leon's eyes and ask yourself if you would have saved the black widow hanging from the ledge, or if you would have just let go.

I would have pulled her back up, but only so I could kill her and loot the corpse.

I am afriad you read into the scene what you wanted to read into it. The scene itself isn't exactly well written but I think what they wanted to accomplish is pretty evident.

I agree your interpretation would be by far the most interesting, I just don't think that is what they were going for. Can you get in touch with people who actually worked on the project, perhaps people no longer with Capcom, and get their version of those events?

MDSnowman:
[quote="Osaka117" post="6.380787.14977704"]You also can't make the argument that the writing was better back then. I have two words for you, Jill Sandwich.

You're confusing there "poor translation" for "bad writing".

Anyway, I have to agree with people that say the author of this article is reading too much into this. This is nothing but fanfiction. Not only there's no actual reason for this to happen, but it would imply Capcom's RE writers are actually clever.

Look, I love RE and I devour their storylines, but they're more full of holes than a colander in the middle of a fight between Deadpool and The Punisher. The writers could have never come up with such a thing, and if they did, we would be 100% certain of it by now.

It's been a while, but I've played and replayed RE2 more times than anyone ever should, and at this point I refuse to acknowledge Leon A/Claire B as the correct scenario. There are way too many plot holes and all of the useless rooms toward the end that are utilized fully in - what many in the RE communities call - the "correct" scenario: Claire A/Leon B.

Sadly, this does mean that Leon never bumps into Robert Kendo or Officer Marvin Branagh, but that also means that Sherry doesn't shout "LEON!" at the end of the game despite the fact that the two haven't met at all during the Leon A/Claire B scenario.

Just pretend somebody clever was working for Capcom at this time, OK, posters? I know it's far-fetched, considering most of us have also played RE1, but just... play along. I hate when some party pooper comes in and comes up with some judgement that nobody is that clever. I'll throw you a bone and say that yes, this is the same game that saved Leon by randomly having a pipe fall on the person who is aiming a gun at him.

Watching the scene, I can verify that it's not clear who lets go... for one thing, it kind of looks like Leon has her by the wrist. She wouldn't have to let go; he would. When he thinks, "what made her do that?" he's actually examining the body of Annette, not the gun. He does verify that the gun is empty.

Also, hey; keep in mind that Capcom didn't randomly retcon Ada back into the story. At the last battle, a woman with Ada's silhouette throws Leon a rocket launcher. This is more than enough to finally destroy the monster he was trapped with, saving him. Again, making us question whether or not Ada is completely or just mostly immoral.

I think I could stomach this kind of interpretation much better if the author acknowledged more clearly that he simply could be completely fucking wrong and would refrain from sentences like" (capcom has) chosen to abandon Leon's decision" and that "Leon's most emotional decision in Resident Evil 2 is being denied its rightful place among the series' history".
Itīs the same reason I utterly despise the Indoctrination theory and its most fervent supporters.

You construct a theory that is very much dependent on a very specific interpretation of some very specific events connected in a very specific way (Leonīs dash to grab Ada is a "reflex", him letting go is a "decision". Ada lowering her arm is due to a gun being pointed at her, her gun being empty is.... well... ignored) and then just pretend that it has merit..
Yes, it COULD be true, but in this case, it takes massive amounts of information bias and self-deception to even consider the idea that it is LIKELY to be true.

Itīs an interesting (albeit rather weakly supported and somewhat random) take on a classical scene.
Itīs also almost certainly bullshit.

The Resident Evil canon has been fucked for a while now. They're constantly adding and removing things through some means or another, be it a CGI movie or a light-gun rail-shooter that out right alters the personalities of some of the characters.

Here's the REAL Resident Evil conspiracy theory: who gave Chris the steroids? I think it was Barry. There's gotta be a reason we haven't seen anything of him since the first game. I just know he sold Chris the junk.

Captcha: That's right

Damn right!

While that's certainly an interesting interpretation I don't think that's the case. But then the longer this series went the more games and spin offs they made, the more Capcom has turned an already convoluted story into a complete mess.

Personally I'm very against making retcons to a story or series unless it's to remove something that was just plain horrendous, ie forgetting Metroid: Other M ever existed. It just strikes me as what I like to call "George Lucas Syndrome" when creators feel the need to mess with stuff that was fine the first time. If some past continuity is messing up the new story you're writing now that just change the new one to better fit then going back and saying "Oh nevermind, that didn't really happen/happen that way".

Sheo_Dagana:
The Resident Evil canon has been fucked for a while now. They're constantly adding and removing things through some means or another, be it a CGI movie or a light-gun rail-shooter that out right alters the personalities of some of the characters.

Here's the REAL Resident Evil conspiracy theory: who gave Chris the steroids? I think it was Barry. There's gotta be a reason we haven't seen anything of him since the first game. I just know he sold Chris the junk.

Captcha: That's right

Damn right!

Oh Chris, you're so obscenely beefcake. Makes you wonder what would happen if he FARUKON PAUNCH'd something. It shudders the mind to even contemplate it.

OT, Ada always struck me as as an untrustworthy femme fatale with Chronic Backstabbing Syndrome. All through-out the game I was wondering when I'd finally be able to ventilate her brain. Imagine my disappointment when it turned out you don't get that chance.

Ada's fate at at RE2's end was more ambigious than anything. It's a classic Disney Death, lost by falling down a pit and never seen again. We don't really know what happened after Leon let go. Which is probably how we're supposed to reconcile her appearance in RE4. She just found a way to avoid dying. Heck, she could even have told Leon to let her go, specifically so he would give her a chance to escape while thinking she's dead. In terms of the manipulative, backstabby person we know, it's fully possible she already knew, based on what she could see below her, just how to survive, and leverage the situation to break Leon off her trail.

After all, if Leon thought she was alive, he might go looking. To protect herself and her employers, she told him she wasn't worth saving and to let her go.

It's the best scenerio I can think of. It's a shame Capcom didn't think of it.

The Resident Evil canon isn't so nearly complex I'm afraid. Whilst CAPCOM has stated that Claire A/Leon B is the canon order of events, it seems they forgot about that when they made Wesker's Report which clearly shows Ada falling...

I'd put out general agreement with above comments and reasons that the author is reading too much into it. In that scene Ada clearly lets go of Leon's hand. And even if Leon had her by the wrist he's not about to pull her up with one hand unassisted, and to those of you who argue that he has a second hand please never try to pull someone up from a bridge because all you'll do is wind up falling yourself. Not to mention that even if you doubt the silhouette in Claire's scenario Ada's survival of RE2 was confirmed in the RE3 epiloques.

Wow, I amazed that, after all this time, it turns out that I was right and Claire A/Leon B was actually the way most people think it went down. I just played it that way because my game was bugged and I couldn't complete it if I did Claire B (as I recall there was a puzzle that glithed out on me with her in the B scenario, but doing it the other way worked fine).

Also, slightly off topic, why did nobody ever try this method of story telling ever again? It worked really well and offered a huge incentive to play through the game again, yet I can't recall another game that did what RE2 did.

And this is why capcom bums me out on a habitual basis... I miss the days when developers didn't paint over the plot of the original games and pretend it wasn't a combination of sequelitis and greed... /end rant

This theory makes too much sense to be true, Capcom hasn't been this intelligent in a long time.

MikeWehner:

Leon might've let go of Ada Wong on purpose.

Wow, you are such a geek for writing this article! I mean that in a good way of course, loving a certain subject this much is great, your opinion was very insightful and I absolutely love your perception of these events. Even if this isn't what was originally intended, I want this theory to be canon.

toomuchnothing:

As you may or may not remember, Resident Evil 2 has a total of four different endings. Playing through either the disc one or disc two with a fresh save file yields different versions of events for both Leon and Claire, called "Leon A" and "Claire A." But when you beat the game using one disc, a save file is created allowing you to play through the game with the other character. These stories are labeled "Leon B" and "Claire B," and they feature some big changes from the A versions.

Also RE2 didn't have 4 different endings it had 2. The whole A/B scenario thing was basically who ended up on which side of the accident in the opening intro. If you played Claire A then Leon's B scenario was the corresponding story to hers. It wasn't a whole new story as much as it was "what the other character was doing the whole time" so imo Capcom really didn't bastardize canon by simply saying Claire A and Leon B were what happened over Leon A Claire B. Trust me I think Capcom has been terrible when it comes picking and choosing what actually happened in RE games vs what they said happened but I don't think choosing Claire/Leon over Leon/Claire is their worst offense by a long shot.

Thank you.

This was my main problem with his theory, he treated the A and B stories as completely different cannon when they were the same story but from a different perspective. I believe story B is slightly behind story A, so in ending B when you get the gun from Ada the whole 'death scene' has already happened; meaning it is clear she survived somehow.

It's already been said, but you can check Ada's gun in the aftermath to find that it was empty. Additionally, the good ending to the A side shows Ada not falling to her death, but falling unconscious in Leon's arms after a kiss. This is retconned in the Umbrella Chronicles.

Don't get me wrong - it was a great read. But it's a perspective that is too contradictory to exist.

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