Jimquisition: Xbox 360 and PS3 Are Just Very Crap PCs

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Xbox 360 and PS3 Are Just Very Crap PCs

There was once a time when consoles had something that PCs didn't have. They were cheaper, easier to use, more convenient. They dominated the market because they dominated our need to be lazy and catered to. Then this generation happened.

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A shitstorm is coming.

Calibanbutcher:
A shitstorm is coming.

It sure is, better grab the popcorn cause this is gonna be good.

I wouldn't say consoles start as very crap PCs. Most of their launches, I'll admit, are rather decent because of the launch titles that invite the consumer to try it out with few hassles.

No. I'd say that most consoles are now trying to be like PCs. With updates, patches, online, etc., but don't do it quite as well because they're usually closed platforms bound to a corporation. PCs, on the other hand, are open and the owners of games are free to do whatever they want with their game.

I'm sure this will only provoke patient, well thought out responses...

Calibanbutcher:
A shitstorm is coming.

I smell a bunch of assholes yelling at us for our taste coming. They will come at me soon.

Please... I like the Wii... don't kill me...

saintdane05:

Calibanbutcher:
A shitstorm is coming.

I smell a bunch of assholes yelling at you for your taste coming. They will come at me soon.

Please... I like the Wii... don't kill me...

For MY taste?
What did I do?

BTW: Already got myself some popcorn, mai-tais and chips.
This is gonna be good.

Well, might as well add something to kick off the inevitable shit-storm.

*ahem*

P.C. gamers, could you please note that consoles are bad now, not because of weak processing or worse controls, but because of how they are being used by publishers. Therefore, they are not inherently evil and wrong, as some elitist minority jerks seem to insist.

If no shitstorm happens, everybody is going to be disappointed now. Way too much hype.

As convenient as consoles are,PCs always have the flexibility and independence from anything that's not the consumer.And a PC requires only a brain to operate,nothing more.Not to mention that the entire Internet is on your finger tips.
And is it me,or is Jim just getting sick of US corporations doing their "business",so much that he's willing to give up dealing with them once and for all.

I'll leave this here: "Bloody Americans!" as I like to say(and no I'm not British,I'm from East EU)

I blame consoles for the fact that DLC exists...

Look, I enjoy PC gaming from time to time, but to say you can't think of anything that makes consoles better than PCs in any way? How about the fact that when I install a $50 game on my PC, it more often then not requires me to spend 1-3 hours getting the damn thing to run on my stupid PC because whatever they used doesn't conform to my sound/video/processor of choice.

Because of the boring conformity, at least I know my games will be compatible with my 360 or PS3. And yes, I love mods, but I can at least see this as being a benefit to boring old console gaming.

Yea this makes sense to me actually, as time has gone on I've started to gravitate more towards PC gaming, and now the only thing stopping me from pretty much abandoning consoles altogether is that most of my friends are console gamers

Calibanbutcher:

For MY taste?
What did I do?

BTW: Already got myself some popcorn, mai-tais and chips.
This is gonna be good.

I was referring to all of us consol peasants. I shall grab the pitch forks to defend ourselves.

PC is better? Yeah, all those that say "download x and x and x mods to make game better" even though the vanilla version of the game was fine. Look at Crysis 2...on xbox it was shit and bland fps with great graphics. On PC they bitched that the graphics could be better with that extra update? The game is still sucky.

Jim Sterling:
Xbox 360 and PS3 Are Just Very Crap PCs

They were cheaper, easier to use, more convenient.

Last I checked, consoles were still cheaper than gaming PC's.

Also i think its easier to cheat on games on PC than a console.

Yeah I agree. If I could afford to make the jump to PCs I would. I'd keep my consoles for exclusives but I'd mainly play on PC.

Also INB4 shitstorm

Jimothy Sterling:
If no shitstorm happens, everybody is going to be disappointed now. Way too much hype.

So will you be pleased or irritated by the people who inevitably do? Tough conundrum, eh?

Now finally someone has voiced my opinions.

Now I game on a very crap PC and so far I am enjoying it. I'm playing Skyrim and after all the mods that I have put, I can't believe that anyone has the patience to play on a console.

Sorry consoles, you still are good (there's always Demons/Dark Souls), but there is no way that consoles are going to be profitable unless corporations face the fact that consoles cannot act as small scale PCs and copy the big brother who already has a good reputation of having the consumers fix (by their own merit) what's wrong in a game along with many, many advantages.

saintdane05:

Calibanbutcher:

For MY taste?
What did I do?

BTW: Already got myself some popcorn, mai-tais and chips.
This is gonna be good.

I was referring to all of us consol peasants. I shall grab the pitch forks to defend ourselves.

Waait.
The evil mob usually has the pitchforks.
OH GOD YOU'RE ONE OF THEM.
Quick, someone get me my Broken Butterfly.

Jim Sterling:
Xbox 360 and PS3 Are Just Very Crap PCs

There was once a time when consoles had something that PCs didn't have. They were cheaper, easier to use, more convenient. They dominated the market because they dominated our need to be lazy and catered to. Then this generation happened.

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This Jim, is precisely why I love you and why you are my new favourite person on the internet. Many of us have been saying this for quite some time, but it's funny how people wont listen unless you've got some "cred".

The only reason I have a PS3 is because Kojima made a MGS game. Aside from that, I literally cannot think of any reason why I would buy games for it that I couldn't get on my PC.

A good example of what you were talking about would be Skyrim. When that game came out, consoles had a hard time with lost saves, poor performance etc. Any problems that existed on the PC version I didn't notice, why? Because someone had a fix for it somewhere on the internet almost as soon as the game went live.

Prefer consoles all you want for their supposed simplicity, but PC gamers don't have to deal with corporate bullshit. Somewhere out there, for anything, someone has a work around, fix or mod that fits your needs.

Also kudos for showing Tribes when you mentioned free online games. Have you given Blacklight Retribution a try? It's not bad.

I recently just got a PS3. I've been a PC gamer for years, but my wife wanted a HD console to go with our new TV. Fair enough, went with a PS3 because it had the exclusive games that i wanted to play.

Holy crap, is it a mess. The games are fine, but Sony's store is terrible. Perhaps i'm just used to steam, but when i download a game (or even just a demo), wait 10+ minutes for the demo to install, then find out i have to download and install another patch for the DEMO, all i can think is "What the Fuck??". (how's that for a run-on?)

Just yesterday, i downloaded the demo for wipeout HD. It's a digital demo from Sony's own store. Downloaded the gigabyte file, and it took 10 minutes to install. Then i try to run it. Nope, PSN says that i need version 1.01, so i have to download 6 additional patches and install them.

Fix the copy on the main server!!!

I love Morrowind, on the xbox it was hard to get into, very hard. But the game was awesome. I love it. On PC, you mod it to death and it loses what it is. Its to easy to click god mode and the game is ruined. Not saying we would all do this, just if you replayed the same part of a game 5 times, you would click god mood just to get past that area and continue with the story. My time with Morrowind on xbox was awesome, Morrowind on the PC wasnt as interesting at all.

Waaghpowa:
Also kudos for showing Tribes when you mentioned free online games. Have you given Blacklight Retribution a try? It's not bad.

I love Blacklight. Reviewed it for Destructoid, put it on par with the best this generation's shooters have to offer. It's pretty much my basis for realizing that the $60 + DLC model is going to be humiliated in a matter of years.

This video is kinda pointless for someone who was a PC gamer to begin with, and always have been.
But thanks Jim for voicing what i always knew.....PC > Consoles

Waaghpowa:
Prefer consoles all you want for their supposed simplicity, but PC gamers don't have to deal with corporate bullshit. Somewhere out there, for anything, someone has a work around, fix or mod that fits your needs.

As long as the game is popular enough. "For anything" just isn't true. :|

If it wasn't for the cost of constantly upgrading the hardware I'd be more inclined to use my PC for gaming.

Honestly i have to agree with this. I've felt this way too recently. I'm currently in the process of upgrading my PC so i can game on it because of bad business models on consoles. Sure the ps3 is great for its uncharteds and its ratchet and clanks and final fantasies, but the business model is disgraceful. Either you pay $60 for an incomplete game that will be patched/get dlc later or you buy pre owned and are "killing the industry". Look at steam, it sells cheaply and has sales all of the time. I see offers on steam like every GTA in one bundle for €10, but on PSN games that are released new cost fucking €69.99! That's €20 more than it costs to buy in a shop, where less money goes to the dev and you can trade it in if you are not satisfied.

But as for the problems with console exclusives, 360 and ps3 emulation are getting pretty good lately on PC. And with the next gen consoles having less of a gap from last gen to this gen i can see fully working emulation happening in the first 3 years of next gen.

The only real advantage i can see with consoles is local multiplayer, but very few games support than now, so it is mostly an advantage for the wii. I find playing the wii with friends to be much more fun than playing ps3/360 with friends because of this.

Limitless free games (the legal kind, you filthy pirate) and mods that turn great games into year long orgasms of greatness make PCs better than any console. No need to argue anything more.

While I usually agree with Jim here I must respectfully disagree, at least on the surface. The thing is the negatives that consoles have gotten from pc gaming are really just the problems with the games industry that we've all been over before. Since consoles are static and extremely brand controlled they're easier to control though. None of the problems here are inherent in consoles, the games industry simply doesn't know when to cut the shit.

Another thing is that despite how convoluted they've gotten I still say they're much easier to work with than a pc. Yes MGS4 may have taken forever to install but all I had to do to install it was press a preselected button. PCs despite their growing convenience are still very do it yourself. While pc enthusiasts might be all for it, maintaining and updating and editing plenty of people are not. I recently downloaded Morrowind and it took me four hours to get running because of a massive amount of compatibility issues that I had to search online for multiple answers for. While I could plug in my ps3 controller it's all for nought because my pc doesn't recognise it and I have to go searching for obscure programs and youtube tutorials to make it even work. Then there's the fact that controllers simply don't have enough buttons or some pc games, and after that the fact that while I could use a ps3 controller while playing tf2 it would be stupid to do so because mice are infinitely better for shooters and I'd get royally screwed. Consoles are getting pretty shitty and inefficient, but they still aren't the most inefficient.

Also Monster Energy is clearly superior to that pathetic milk and juice and water garbage everybody keeps pestering me about.

Um...pcs are expensive and require upgrades to the pc itself to play new games. They are still a bigger hassle. That outweighs anything a pc can do as most gamers wont spend 15000 dollars to have higher definition graphics that add fuck all to the game itself.

SonOfVoorhees:
I love Morrowind, on the xbox it was hard to get into, very hard. But the game was awesome. I love it. On PC, you mod it to death and it loses what it is. Its to easy to click god mode and the game is ruined. Not saying we would all do this, just if you replayed the same part of a game 5 times, you would click god mood just to get past that area and continue with the story. My time with Morrowind on xbox was awesome, Morrowind on the PC wasnt as interesting at all.

But that is your fault not the fault of PC's. How many old consoles games had cheats that allowed you to do the same thing? Not to mention some mods are awesome, case in point is dayZ and that is on its way to becoming a stand alone game.

I fully expect an animated GIF of Jim's exercise regime to be somebody's forum avatar by the end of the week...

PC gamers care more about graphics and physics than the actual game....these things are not important. Making the graphics better with a mod dont make the game better. The game is what it is, the story etc can not be changed. Each to their own i guess. Just buy the games you love to play and you will be fine.

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