Zero Punctuation: Walking Dead

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ServebotFrank:

Scars Unseen:

lwm3398:

You'd probably be better off starting with the show. From what was said in this review, one's sense of the world is pretty different between the game and the TV series. And the TV series seems pretty close to the graphic novels, so it might be to your advantage if you watch the show/read the series first.

If by pretty close you mean that half the characters in the show are alive when they shouldn't be, and the other half has gone off in a completely different direction than the comic took them, yeah, I guess the show is pretty close to the comic.

Sometimes I can be pretty lenient with less than faithful adaptations(the Scott Pilgrim movie comes to mind), but The Walking Dead show just pisses me off.

I believe the Creator of the comics said he doesn't want the show to follow the comics exactly. He says that makes it really predictable for followers of the comics when they might as well be following the comics. By not making it a perfect adaptation (The creator of the comics is heavily involved with the show so everything happens when he says so) it means the show becomes very unpredictable like with how Shane and Dale's fates are much different then the comics.

Xanadu84:

Personally I prefer Walking Dears adaptation style. I know what happens in the comics already. Doing something completely different in the show lets me think about characters from a different angle. Also, I know that what happens to Lori in the next season isn't certain, which greatly adds to the tension that would be missing were it a strict adaptation. Besides, the comic creators are on board, and some of the characters that survived longer in the show did so because they needed to do the plot point of that persons death before they were canceled. Once they had a TV show, they were more comfortable letting that character stick around an exploring an opportunity they missed in the comic.

Maybe we'll see some much needed strife in the coming arc, but at this point I've pretty much lost interest in the show.

MB202:
I laughed so hard when Yahtzee "[the child] will be a lot more tender and palatable, umnomnomnomnomnom!", I literally almost passed out... It felt like I was on the verge of laughing to death, and I loved every second of it.

Also, you can still write about John de Lancie's career without your "Q" key. After all, there's no "Q" in Discod... yet.

We're only talking about major roles.

OniaPL:
So, Yahtzee absolutely loved the game and will admit that it is the new epitome of adventure games and the best game of this decade.

the sad part is that

I really used to like adventure games. That is, until everyone seemingly stopped making them. I should really give Telltale's games a try someday.

Hexenwolf:
Haven't read the series or seen the show, but everyone keeps saying it's good. I might actually check the game out first, just to see if I like the world.

The show is tricky because there are (a) comic purists that want their vision of the comic maintained, (b) horror enthusiasts that expect more gore, and (c) casual viewers that squirm from the gore and tense situations. The show is quite enjoyable provided you're okay with how the show maintains a balance between comic continuity, drama and squirm.

Yahtzee scoffed at the notion of rebuilding society after a zombie apocalypse, yet that's actually the territory that the comic is currently going. It's brilliant in maintaining story possibilities, and one has difficulty anticipating how things will unfold. Definitely giving the tv show a run for its money, plot wise.

The whole "let the kid die vs let the dude die" thing isn't really a thing.
The dude was going to survive no matter what. I tried several different ways to do that, and finally in frustration just looked up how to save the dude - and whaddya know, you can't!

That stupid little kid...

The comic was amazing, the TV series a huge positive surprise (Not for the faith hearted). For the game, I enjoyed both episodes. To easy really, still kept me playing to see the different scenarios.

Aww, I was hoping the series would be finished by my birthday so I could just play them all at once.

I was having some fun with it, but it wasn't overwhelming..
Especially the whole "choice" thing is annoying, they don't really matter.

***INCOMING HUGE SPOILER, ALEERRRRRT****

...

The scene that Yahtzee describes, where you chop off a guys leg to save him, was one that I'd seen in a youtube video, like he says, he dies anyway, so I tried everything else and in the end I abandoned him because I wanted a different outcome.
You end up with the same guy alive and just another guy dead... There's no difference apart from a model and the bad feeling that you just left a guy to die. You fail no matter what you do, you can't be clever about it, in fact you just get a lot of time to fail more and more, until the game goes "oh you dumbass, lets move this along." and proceeds to fatally injure one of the others. Difference is that you pick him up instead. Wow...

This kinda makes me wonder if ANY of the choices I previously made, made any difference at all.
Thinking back, I'm almost 100% sure that it doesn't matter whether you try to save the teenager instead of the kid in the first episode, or the white techy guy instead of the gun-wielding woman(lolnames). Meanwhile, you have two major supporting characters who lead the group and like Yahtzee, I went with the family-man redneck right up until the end where he chickens out and kills the opposing leaders father. Then I'm suddenly unworthy in his eyes and the game bugs and he accuses me of not sticking up for his kid earlier(which I did). Total 180 degree turn in the groups politics, so again, my choices previous to that didn't matter for shit.

This instantly turned me off and had me go "meh" through the rest of it. I didn't feel my choices mattered at all, apart from a bit different dialogue or responses from the remaining characters. I might replay the episodes and just be a dick to everyone, just to see if it makes any difference, which I suspect it doesn't because too much dialogue would have to change, to have it make sense.

"Choice", in this game is just a pretty sugarcoating without substance.

TheDrunkNinja:
I completely agree. The characters in this game that force you to make choices really only want a yesman. They make it like they just want you at their back, but fuck 'em. Disagree once, especially in an instance where their side is really fucking inhuman, and they act like you've betrayed them.

Other than that, the game is quite good, but it does hamper the fun when you realize in the long term that your choices don't matter in the end:

Gilhelmi:
Part of my long-term survival plan is too rebuild society. I am even planing on building a library 25 years into the apocalypse, sooner if the political and military situation permits.

I am working on a short-term (1-5 years post) mid-term (6-15 years post) and long-term (16+ years post).

So ya, I would enjoy a Zombie game where I got too rebuild society.

http://armorgames.com/play/12389/rebuild-2

The game has different multiple endings depending on your choices, one of which is writing up a new constitution and creating a new government. Another is actually finding a cure to the outbreak. Getting one ending doesn't ever end the game, so you can potentially get all of them.

Enjoy.

I lost 8 hours too that game ty

TheDrunkNinja:

Gilhelmi:
Muhhh ahhh, I enjoyed the trailer TY.

I may be getting that game in the near future.

Trailer? That's the link to the game itself. It's a free online flash game. I play it all the time.

Ya my bad. I thought that the opening was the trailer.

You still cost me a day because I was playing that game.

Gilhelmi:

TheDrunkNinja:

Gilhelmi:
Muhhh ahhh, I enjoyed the trailer TY.

I may be getting that game in the near future.

Trailer? That's the link to the game itself. It's a free online flash game. I play it all the time.

Ya my bad. I thought that the opening was the trailer.

You still cost me a day because I was playing that game.

Hey.

You asked for it. All I did was deliver.

But still, I know your pain very well :D

this game looks interesting however

Durgiun:

Xanadu84:
You know in Walking Dead, I believe that they could rebuild society. I mean sure, it hasn't worked yet but it only has to stick once. Can you grow lemon trees in the Walking Dead setting?

The characters have actually tried to rebuild society. In fact, where I'm at in the comics, they're currently living in a nice little town where the only danger is dying of boredom. Killing zombies is fun. Living in a safe environment where everything is sunny certainly is not.

Ive read the comics. From the characters perspective, killing zombies sucks. That's part of why they keep trying to rebuild society. So I think that rebuilding society is sort of like an end game scenario for the comics. Of course once they do reach that end game, there can always be threats to a nice, safe town that the main characters have to deal with.

Scars Unseen:

Xanadu84:

Personally I prefer Walking Dears adaptation style. I know what happens in the comics already. Doing something completely different in the show lets me think about characters from a different angle. Also, I know that what happens to Lori in the next season isn't certain, which greatly adds to the tension that would be missing were it a strict adaptation. Besides, the comic creators are on board, and some of the characters that survived longer in the show did so because they needed to do the plot point of that persons death before they were canceled. Once they had a TV show, they were more comfortable letting that character stick around an exploring an opportunity they missed in the comic.

Maybe we'll see some much needed strife in the coming arc, but at this point I've pretty much lost interest in the show.

Nobody ever gets to a cure, in any zombie series. Just once I would like to see a zombie apocalypse that does something different and find something that stops the dead people moving!

Buretsu:

MB202:
I laughed so hard when Yahtzee "[the child] will be a lot more tender and palatable, umnomnomnomnomnom!", I literally almost passed out... It felt like I was on the verge of laughing to death, and I loved every second of it.

Also, you can still write about John de Lancie's career without your "Q" key. After all, there's no "Q" in Discod... yet.

We're only talking about major roles.

It IS a major role. He was the main antagonist in the season 2 premiere, and he's going to play him more in the next season (supposedly).

Also, watched the video again, and once again, I almost passed out from laughing so hard.

Assassin Xaero:

From what I understand these choices change your relationships with people. There's pragmatists who would have liked the guy, then there's family/moral/futurists who would prefer the kid.

GestaltEsper:
Anyone else find it interesting that he called the vat of chlorine half-full instead of half-empty?

Does this mean?!!

Our cynical yahtzee is secretly ... an OPTIMIST!?

Im... going to have to go away for a while... the world suddenly feels less cold and hostile and its worrying me...

I LOVED the episodes so far, not much to be said for the game aspect, has to be said, but still enjoyed it.

Clementine has to be one of the most well-written child characters that I've seen in a game for a long time.

Durgiun:

OniaPL:
So, Yahtzee absolutely loved the game and will admit that it is the new epitome of adventure games and the best game of this decade.

You're not alone. And then I had to deal with the fallout. By the way, did Kenny seem a little... Crazy in episode 2 to you?

Slightly. I've been mostly supporting Kenny so far, but now it seems to me that it's not that the game doesn't read dialogue choices right (many complained that Kenny gets angry with them even if you defend the kid), but that he is starting to behave more and more irrationally. Not crazy, just... Not as dependable anymore, too shaken.

bullet_sandw1ch:

OniaPL:
So, Yahtzee absolutely loved the game and will admit that it is the new epitome of adventure games and the best game of this decade.

the sad part is that

Yes, but

This has to be the worst ZP ever; don't put spoilers in ffs I've just bought the series and you' ruined it for me -_-

Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw Might want to give the television series Walking Dead a look.

OniaPL:

bullet_sandw1ch:

OniaPL:
So, Yahtzee absolutely loved the game and will admit that it is the new epitome of adventure games and the best game of this decade.

the sad part is that

Yes, but

after presenting such a sound argument, i think you definitely have the right idea there.

The choice of who to give food to was one of the most interesting things I've done in a game. Discussing with other who they chose to feed was very interesting. I am still waiting on episodes 3-5 to judge how much decisions mattered.

Why I hate my mind: Yahtzee says "John De Lancie," Discord pops into my head, now my brain won't let me add to the discussion unless it involves mindless and unrelated pony spam. I shall show myself the door.

Certainly a step up from last week's catastrophe. Thank you Yahtzee for rebounding from bad quality with more expediency than most professional television shows ever could.

Jailbird408:
Why I hate my mind: Yahtzee says "John De Lancie," Discord pops into my head, now my brain won't let me add to the discussion unless it involves mindless and unrelated pony spam. I shall show myself the door.

It's also why I hate your mind.

Porygon-2000:
Nobody ever gets to a cure, in any zombie series. Just once I would like to see a zombie apocalypse that does something different and find something that stops the dead people moving!

everyone finds that cure, it's called a-bullet-to-the-head.

Please Delete

That begs a question.... Why do we never see airline pilots in zombie apocalypse films/shows?

The answer: They all go home get their kids and their best friends, drive to the airport fill up a plane with fuel and fly to the smallest Hawaiian island, where they then meet up with all the other airline pilots who had the same idea, together they rid the island of Kauai of zombies, and zombie chickens.... you gotta factor in zombie chickens when talking about Kauai. They then proceed to use the natural rainforest for food, set up a radio signal stating that you are alive and that when civilization returns to come say hello, and vwalla an entire civilization run by airline pilots and their offspring.

Porygon-2000:
Nobody ever gets to a cure, in any zombie series. Just once I would like to see a zombie apocalypse that does something different and find something that stops the dead people moving!

It is called I am Legend http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480249/

MorganL4:
That begs a question.... Why do we never see airline pilots in zombie apocalypse films/shows?

There is a worthwhile zombie film, The Dead (2010), which starts our protagonist aboard the last flight out of Africa.

Don't forget one of the Romero classics. In Dawn of the Dead (1978), the protagonists use a helicopter to locate a shopping mall. In the underrated sequel Day of the Dead (1985), they were using a helicopter in their search for survivors.

Hexenwolf:
Haven't read the series or seen the show, but everyone keeps saying it's good. I might actually check the game out first, just to see if I like the world.

Believe me when I say watch the show or read the comic first. The "game" (more like a viz novel trying to be a game) is meh.

Oh, I tried to save the dude cuz the kid was irritating to the max and the dude seemed pretty cool. I see now that I am an awful human being.

Hard to believe this was so long ago. It feels like just yesterday. And now it's finally over.

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