GinxTV: Medal of Honor: Warfighter Preview

Medal of Honor: Warfighter Preview

Learn the pros and cons of the latest Medal of Honor title.

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I still think this is a silly name. They may have well just called it Medal of Honor: Shootyman.

Kungfu_Teddybear:
Still think this is a silly name. They may have well just called it Medal of honor: Shootyman.

I only came to comment on how dumb their name is...ninja'd. Is there any Medal of Honor games where the premise was not fighting a war? Coming soon... Ace Combat: Jet Pilot and Super Mario Brothers: Plumbers.

This looks dumb... Jesus I mean programmers have to get tired of modeling m4's and AK's for each and every new CoD rip off.

I want an SAS game, American special forces suck. Like for instance, there is a hostage somewhere in the compound....what do you not do? Throw grenades. An in real life they did that and killed the hostage. Idiots.

These games are to American heavy even though America rarely send their special forces into battle. I think MOH need to branch out more to other SF that do a hell of a lot more than USA SF do.

Also this whole global terror thing is getting boring.

So it's all the missions we wish we had done instead of the ones we've failed at?
Does it make me a bad person that I REALLY want to do the Bombay (that's it's REAL name) Hotel attack?

And am I the only one who LOVES the idea of mobile spawn points?

SonOfVoorhees:
I want an SAS game, American special forces suck. Like for instance, there is a hostage somewhere in the compound....what do you not do? Throw grenades. An in real life they did that and killed the hostage. Idiots.

Exactly what incident are you referring to?

This actually looks really promising, sure it's not the best name in the world, but ther ehave been worse name titles.

I'll be keeping a sceptical eye on this, it looks better than COD (and i really hope it is) but as i have learned with said COD, looks can be deceiving.

I'm certainly not giving it the benefit of the doubt. I think it will probably be good at what it's trying to be but, as much as I still love CoD4, I'm getting more than a little exhausted at all the games trying to make that particular bolt of lighting strike twice, and coming off as a bit of a damp squib by comparison. If I hear enough rave reviews of it I'll probably try it out, but in between everything else coming out in the next few months that I want it's definitely not a priority purchase.

Looks a hell of a lot better than Blops 2 though, I'll say that for it.

DVS BSTrD:
So it's all the missions we wish we had done instead of the ones we've failed at?
Does it make me a bad person that I REALLY want to do the Bombay (that's it's REAL name) Hotel attack?

And am I the only one who LOVES the idea of mobile spawn points?

SonOfVoorhees:
I want an SAS game, American special forces suck. Like for instance, there is a hostage somewhere in the compound....what do you not do? Throw grenades. An in real life they did that and killed the hostage. Idiots.

Exactly what incident are you referring to?

Linda Norgrove, a British Aid worker, was taken hostage by insurgents in Afghanistan. US Special Forces took charge of the rescue operation. However, during the rescue attempt Linda was killed by a grenade thrown by a US soldier.

The guy you quoted is being more than a little unfair though. It was a high risk operation, we don't really know anything about extenuating circumstances, Parliament concluded there was no-one to blame and even Linda's parents said that they don't hold the soldier in question or US Special Forces in general responsible for her death. Even if it was the guys fault, there's no guarantee the same thing wouldn't have happened if it had been the SAS sent in there rather than the SEAL's. Both forces go through pretty much the exact same training program.

I'm not Canadian but why aren't the "mounties" a tier 1 special force to fight as :p.

I might get this game. The 2010 reboot of medal of honour was great...the multiplayer was shit though :(

If I do get this game I will be fighting as the SAS :D

I like the idea of making different nations special forces units being unique in ability and weapons. Though, until I have the opportunity to play it, I can't be sure if it will be enough to separate it from the rest.

It's a smart move from publishers EA, who seem to be setting up MOH as the faster paced, more realistic alternative to Battlefield 3

...sorry, what?

Faster paced combat in videogames is almost always a guarantee of also being unrealistic. Real life combat does not occur in awesome 30 second set-pieces. Real life combat can be slow, draining, and often times massively drawn out.

Games that actually made a stab at realistic combat, like the original Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon games, were always defined by requiring the player to move slowly and extremely carefully, lest they be taken out by a single bullet from an unseen foe.

With each of the twelve teams having its own unique abilities and weapons, Warfighter hopes to draw on players' patriotism and national identity to get them into its online arena

Yay. Because what the current wave of fetishistic military porn needs is to appeal to player jingoism and sense of national superiority.

When you're treating war like a football match, then perhaps its time to take a step back and perhaps think about what sort of message you're trying to send people. Because anyone who tries to tell me that a fight between the SAS and Spetsnaz is like a game between Manchester United and Real Madrid is going to be treated to one very long, unforgiving stare until they make for the door.

NinjaDeathSlap:
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DVS BSTrD:
So it's all the missions we wish we had done instead of the ones we've failed at?
Does it make me a bad person that I REALLY want to do the Bombay (that's it's REAL name) Hotel attack?

And am I the only one who LOVES the idea of mobile spawn points?

SonOfVoorhees:
I want an SAS game, American special forces suck. Like for instance, there is a hostage somewhere in the compound....what do you not do? Throw grenades. An in real life they did that and killed the hostage. Idiots.

Exactly what incident are you referring to?

Linda Norgrove, a British Aid worker, was taken hostage by insurgents in Afghanistan. US Special Forces took charge of the rescue operation. However, during the rescue attempt Linda was killed by a grenade thrown by a US soldier.

The guy you quoted is being more than a little unfair though. It was a high risk operation, we don't really know anything about extenuating circumstances, Parliament concluded there was no-one to blame and even Linda's parents said that they don't hold the soldier in question or US Special Forces in general responsible for her death. Even if it was the guys fault, there's no guarantee the same thing wouldn't have happened if it had been the SAS sent in there rather than the SEAL's. Both forces go through pretty much the exact same training program.

Thank you for that. I get so annoyed at couch potatoes and media idiots who only condemn a single failed mission where it, as you said, was no ones fault. Even going against the family saying it was not their fault.

Scorpid:
This looks dumb... Jesus I mean programmers have to get tired of modeling m4's and AK's for each and every new CoD rip off.

I don't think there is any such thing as a CoD rip off. It's pretty much cemented itself as a subgenre now. The modern military shooter.

And I'm absolutely fine with it staying. To be honest, it is my favorite genre.

Oh, and I'm so playing as the Polish special forces, purely because I didn't know there was such a thing.

And I feel that the Seals are gonna get pretty crowded.

SonOfVoorhees:
I want an SAS game, American special forces suck. Like for instance, there is a hostage somewhere in the compound....what do you not do? Throw grenades. An in real life they did that and killed the hostage. Idiots.

These games are to American heavy even though America rarely send their special forces into battle. I think MOH need to branch out more to other SF that do a hell of a lot more than USA SF do.

Also this whole global terror thing is getting boring.

It's amazing how you said that as if you had any experience or expertise on the matter.

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:

It's a smart move from publishers EA, who seem to be setting up MOH as the faster paced, more realistic alternative to Battlefield 3

...sorry, what?

Faster paced combat in videogames is almost always a guarantee of also being unrealistic. Real life combat does not occur in awesome 30 second set-pieces. Real life combat can be slow, draining, and often times massively drawn out.

Games that actually made a stab at realistic combat, like the original Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon games, were always defined by requiring the player to move slowly and extremely carefully, lest they be taken out by a single bullet from an unseen foe.

Arma 2 and Operation Flashpoint. I'm not disagreeing or anything I just feel like those games deserve word of mouth that extends beyond "ermahgerd zombies".

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:

With each of the twelve teams having its own unique abilities and weapons, Warfighter hopes to draw on players' patriotism and national identity to get them into its online arena

Yay. Because what the current wave of fetishistic military porn needs is to appeal to player jingoism and sense of national superiority.

When you're treating war like a football match, then perhaps its time to take a step back and perhaps think about what sort of message you're trying to send people. Because anyone who tries to tell me that a fight between the SAS and Spetsnaz is like a game between Manchester United and Real Madrid is going to be treated to one very long, unforgiving stare until they make for the door.

Hey, these games pretty are pretty jingoistic already. In fact a lot of games in general are either like this or presented as if they were (see AssCreed 3). If you're going to appeal to jingoism and nationalism then at least MoH is going to do it in a multicultural way. As for the message it's sending, all I see is one of escapism and friendly rivalry without the actual horrors of war. Nothing wrong with people making war into a football match when you consider how many of them turn football matches into wars.

Alexnader:
Nothing wrong with people making war into a football match when you consider how many of them turn football matches into wars.

Epic quote is epic. Totally using that in the future.

OT: Trailer looks good, like a few have said already I was rather impressed with MOH but the multiplayer was crap :(

Alexnader:
Nothing wrong with people making war into a football match when you consider how many of them turn football matches into wars.

Quoted for truth. People die in both events... only one is sometimes over important matters, the other is a bloody game.

I'm still not convinced over this game. It may just be the trailer and this video's fault, but it seems like they're (they, as in, developers and mainstream(ish) reviewers) seem to advertise the same things. Whoop dee doo, we get to play Tier-1 operatives. Is this really that impressive that it deserves so much mention?

Also, a pet peeve of mine: The "controversial" Afghanistan setting. Don't get me wrong, this war and pretty much all others, were and are hell or worse. But if you keep drawing attention to the controversy in the video games, that are blamed for being so controversial, you're really helping the fight against the stereotype. I guess it is or can be used to generate interest for the game, but Afghanistan (or similair) is hardly a new topic for video games. For that matter, I do applaud changing the scenery of the game to various other locations. For some of them, the same argument goes, though not all.

Let me elaborate on that last point, though. By going to new locations and the conflicts that occur there, you could spark new controversy, or so the video claims. (No offense to the people of Ginx TV!)Which brings me back to my point: it's not a new controversy, just one set in a new location, accomplishing very little but wasting time. Not that that is neccesarily bad, some people just have alot of excess time. Myself ofcourse included.

I'm liking the buddy system, curious to see how it plays out - to what extent will a mic be required or helpful?
I do wonder about one thing: The video says this will inspire fraternity, via the buddy system. Loving the concept, but I'm sure there will be plenty of instances where the buddys simply don't "click", hampering the enjoyment of the game. Then again, maybe not.

One last thing:

"...there are hints that Warfighter, does have some ideas of its own." Do I really need to explain the sillyness of this statement?

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:

With each of the twelve teams having its own unique abilities and weapons, Warfighter hopes to draw on players' patriotism and national identity to get them into its online arena

Yay. Because what the current wave of fetishistic military porn needs is to appeal to player jingoism and sense of national superiority.

For some... Maybe. For me, it's a clever marketing strategy. All things military is my hobby, but even I got fed up with all those annual CoD/BF bullshit. Then I hear, there's going to be GROM in the game (I'm Polish), and suddenly I'm all over it. Not because I feel we are better than everyone else, but because it's nice to hear, that your native special forces has been recognized (I heard that EA started with Seals, and asked them to pick top 9 forces from the rest of the world, so if it's true, I'm doubly proud). Of course, checking if they got uniforms, weaponry and gear right will be the first thing to do for me and my friends. :D

I have this bad feeling, that it will be decent at best, but I sincerely hope it will exceed the expectations.

JoesshittyOs:
Oh, and I'm so playing as the Polish special forces, purely because I didn't know there was such a thing.

There's actually five of them in Poland alone. I'm pretty sure, that most of the European countries have at least one.

 

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