The Big Picture: Worlds Within Worlds

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Chuck Norris....

Wow! btw stop taking this too litreally. It's awesome.

videocrazy:
Here's a creepy thought: The Mythbusters did a cameo on an episode of CSI. Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman are real people. Ergo, we are also imaginary.

That would explain why my life has plotholes.

Mind = Blown

That is one of the most awesomely geeky revelations I've ever had. Thanks for a Movie Bob Moment...

Maybe I didn't get it, but this just seems stupid.

Nooooooo, you spoiled St. Elsewhere for me. D:

Oh man crazy fan theories. However, I see a way to rapidly unravel this particular one. If we assume that the St. Elsewhere peeps have a dream-nature, we assume this infects things they come in contact with. However, unless the St. Elsewhere crossover episode is explicitly referenced in a 'real' episode, we can simple assume that the crossover never actually happened, and was the product of Autism God-type including elements of other things into his imagination. This examination can then be reapplied if a universe has the dream-nature, with any crossovers it has. Via this method, I'd assume a large number of connections break, and suddenly the shared universe collapses.

So I just checked out this chart, and it has a link to Batman. This means this whole mess of TV continuity also connects to the messed up DC continuity. But wait! There was a whole big Marvel vs DC series that connects those two continuities. Now between Marvel vs Capcom and Mortal Kombat vs DC universe, we have links to video games as well.

In other news, there's a direct link between Doctor Who and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I am very interested in hearing about this one.

Littaly:
So... what about that Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode where they insinuated that maybe the entire show was took place inside the head of a girl locked inside a mental institution? That's some Inception sh*t right there ^^

Also, somewhat related. This is partially why I'm not too bummed over the rights to X-Men not reverting back to Marvel any time soon. Being part of the larger continuity always kind of undermined the whole idea of that franchise.

That just means that the boy imagined the world that in turn is imagined by a fictional (in his mind) girl.

:o

:O

D:

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that is so cool. Thanks Bob :D

What is the point? That everything can be connected if you just try hard enough? So what?

RaikuFA:
I think I can only say "We need to go deeper."

That blew my mind and confused me.

I do feel like doing the Inception sound

Are you sure it's the whole Tommy Westphall thing that was the big WTF moment of that show Bob? I was more freaked out by the fact that that kitten that appears in the show's credits pretty much died after the final episode.

So all reality is a product of the kid's imagination? So we can say that we live in some kind of Matrix?

But if we wake up from that Matrix, would that be reality? Or is it a matrix within a matrix?

Is this the real life or is this just fantasy?

um yeah, no bob, have you never had a dream with real people in it, or people you've seen on tv?

Informative, interesting, and utterly awesome episode, thanks Bob.

ANImaniac89:
Holy shit
the funny thing is I once made a similar chart connecting Video games, Movie, TV, Literature, Comics and several other universe.
It got so massive that it took over ten sheets of printer paper to map it out.

Everything is connected and everything is cannon

Is that the media creed? Instead of "Nothing is true, everything is permitted" "Everything is connected, everything is cannon"

Okay, lemme go over some shows that I love that might fall out of this theory.

Futurama? Nope, references The Simpsons
My Name is Earl? Nope, characters have been seen watching CSI: Miami
Community? ...Given Abed's references I'm sure that applies somewhere, even if I can't find an example
30 Rock? Nope, had the whole Night Court thing (I don't remember hearing Night Court on there anywhere, but I thought they might have crossed over with Wings who crossed over with Frasier...)
Scrubs? What about Scrubs? Well If Scrubs doesn't have its own references (which I'm sure it does) we know Scrubs is linked to Cougar Town and we know Cougar Town exists in Community, which was mentioned earlier in this post.
EDIT: Yes, because Scrubs has an entire episode about how much they loved Cheers. Duh, forgot all about that one.

Burn Notice? ...I'm drawing a blank on this one. Anyone got anything for Burn Notice?

Still, this really did just blow my mind...

I like this theory, there are some slight flaws but perhaps the point is that continuity should be less strict as that "strictness" is what keeps the potential list of imagined universes growing.

I'd heard of this theory before, but had no idea just how far it reached.

videocrazy:
Here's a creepy thought: The Mythbusters did a cameo on an episode of CSI. Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman are real people. Ergo, we are also imaginary.

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Does that also apply for all the celebrity cameos on The Simpsons?

marioandsonic:
Oh dear, I think I've gone cross-eyed...

That makes you derpy hooves right? Besides alternate universes have to real, because in one of them I am banging Emma Watson

Redlin5:
Snopsnip

Oh god, how could I forget that awesome moment? I love Hermes :P

person427:
So I just checked out this chart, and it has a link to Batman. This means this whole mess of TV continuity also connects to the messed up DC continuity. But wait! There was a whole big Marvel vs DC series that connects those two continuities. Now between Marvel vs Capcom and Mortal Kombat vs DC universe, we have links to video games as well.

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So, in addition to all those TV series, that kid also came up with all Marvel and DC characters, as well as a bunch of video games? That is one imaginative kid.

I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist.I don't exist....

>.<

Edit:

Actually I enjoyed this episode. Tangential learning at work.

...I'm just going to pretend I didn't watch this episode, it's probably better for my sanity.

There is one major problem with the Westphall universe that nobody seems to want to address: Real people show up in our dreams all the time.

Tommy could easily have been "inspired" by an actual (in-universe) hospital, and merely imagined his dad among the staff.

person427:
So I just checked out this chart, and it has a link to Batman. This means this whole mess of TV continuity also connects to the messed up DC continuity. But wait! There was a whole big Marvel vs DC series that connects those two continuities. Now between Marvel vs Capcom and Mortal Kombat vs DC universe, we have links to video games as well.

In other news, there's a direct link between Doctor Who and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I am very interested in hearing about this one.

Ah, but what about all the different timelines of the DC continuity that have no direct interaction with each other (the BatNolan trilogy, for instance?).

Shame on you, sir, for not bringing up Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th dimension when you mentioned Yoyodyne.

It is clearly the most important thing on this list.

Bullfrogg:

person427:
So I just checked out this chart, and it has a link to Batman. This means this whole mess of TV continuity also connects to the messed up DC continuity. But wait! There was a whole big Marvel vs DC series that connects those two continuities. Now between Marvel vs Capcom and Mortal Kombat vs DC universe, we have links to video games as well.

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So, in addition to all those TV series, that kid also came up with all Marvel and DC characters, as well as a bunch of video games? That is one imaginative kid.

Let's see what video games we get from here. Well obviously Marvel vs Capcom, which links to pretty much every Capcom series, and therefore all the vs Capcoms. There was recently the one with Pacman playable (I believe Street Fighter vs Tekken, mark Tekken as another series). Pacman was a playable character in the arcade version of Mario Kart, so now the entirety of Mario continuity is connected. There were some Final Fantasy characters playable in Mario Hoops 3 on 3, and there was the Fortune Street game with Dragon Quest characters, both bringing us into Square Enix territory, but there's also Smash Bros, which links all of Nintendo to this, as well as Sonic who's been in a lot of games featuring a bunch of Sega characters and Snake, who was in that fighting game with Bomberman and Optimus Prime in it, so I guess we have the Transformers now too. Link was also a playable character in Soul Caliber II, which means those games get put into the mix. From there we can connect to Assassin's Creed, God of War (which connects to whatever series end up in PSASBR), and even Star Wars. The Star Tours attraction in Disneyland has a cameo from Mickey Mouse, who connects to a bunch of other Disney series through House of Mouse. He also had an appearance in Who Framed Roger Rabbit with a bunch of other cartoon characters, including Droopy who ties this all into Hanna Barbera continuity, and the Looney Toons who connect this whole mess to...the NBA?!

MY MIND IS AN INFINITE CASCADING AURORA OF FUCK

does that mean that this video is not real and neither are we or Moviebob? Mind=blown

wait, but he is talking about the actors, for it to makes sense it should be the characters the actors portrait, not the actors themselfs

since robins is robin in what ever crossover he appears

Vault Citizen:
There is only one logical conclusion, Westfall is God.

so..... are we starting the church of westfall? making sure we regularly pray so we don't get ..*gulp*. taken off the air

So the kajillions of TV shows all being part of of some stupid kid's mind as a result of someone writing a shitty ending to one TV series being fun to map out and spread until we have a theory that the whole of real-life existence itself is just one kid's fantasy?

Wow, this opens up entirely new worlds... of banality. Cool story, Bob.

I'm surprised Lost wasn't listed somewhere. I feel like I see it being referenced all the time in other media.

Anyways, while I find the Westphall theory interesting, I'm not sure I see how it's relevant to the original point (that comics need to relax their continuity). Forgive me for pointing out the obvious in what is just a thought experiment, but the majority of the examples listed are just references. This video would be better if it talked about how comics are too strict with their continuity, instead of listing media that falls under the Westphall theory. Or maybe if it went into the specifics of Mcduffie's argument. I mean, comics reference stuff all the time. Even other comics. If anything, the problem isn't that comics refuse to relax their continuity, it's that fans won't let it go when they do. How would comics be better if their continuity were not as strict? What does the genre have to gain from it? Maybe I'm just nitpicking (comic reader here, maybe I just can't help myself), but as it stands this video is just a list of easter eggs.

Stop the autism, I wanna get off.

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