Disney Is Stupid, And You're Dumb

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I don't really have favorite Disney movies lists. I just know I like a majority of them, so...*raspberry*

I'm just a huge Tangled and am a little sad no-one even mentioned it. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right. Tangled was fantastic; funny, charming, and had substance.

But yes, Beauty and the Beast is probably the best one.

When I see things like this the first thought that comes to my mind is that the contenders are by and large too recent, we're looking at a competition that is largely pitting the animated movies of Generation X against each other, with nods to Generation Y's "Pixar" movies like Toy Story. The problem with this of course is that it overlooks things like "Snow White" and "Cinderella" which arguably started it all, set high bars for animation for pretty much forever, and most importantly have been watched and embraced by pretty much every generation since their release, in some cases setting sales records when they have been held back from public release and then re-released on video or in theaters. I'd say that while it's POSSIBLE that someone hasn't seen these movies, I'd imagine far more people have seen them and liked them than any of the modern contenders, especially if you start thinking globally.

When it comes down to things like the best Disney villain, consider that when all all the bad folks gather around at night (Disney crossovers are frequent) it's not Jim Walker or Jafar they look to for leadership, it's inevitably Malificent [SP], the evil queen, a character that is both instantly recognized and absolutly oozes dark charisma, not to mention having been the bearer of one of the most dramatic beat downs to Disney heroes (and part of what is their best over all fight scene/confrontation).

Now, don't misunderstand this, I'm not actually breaking this down to a personal favorite, but saying there are some objective criteria that can be used. If your going to argue "best" at this time you need to look at classic disney, give it a few more generations and if Aladdin, Beauty and The Beast, or some of the works of Pixar are still around and being viewed the same way, then they would be due for consideration.

In closing, other than a certain evil Queen from one movie, how many of the Seven Dwarves would you recognize? The answer might surprise you, and I think you'll get more recognition from that, than Timon and Pumbaa no matter how praised "The Lion King" might be, at least for the moment. None of these works have endured long enough to be a true, multi-generational global phenomena.

So to throw my hat into the ring, instead of analyzing the match up, and talking about how it's subjective, you might want to kind of consider than the real match up probably should have been "Cinderella" against "Snow White".

BlindChance:
I'm just a huge Tangled and am a little sad no-one even mentioned it. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right. Tangled was fantastic; funny, charming, and had substance.

If it will make you feel better, when I watched Tangled with Chris, one of us was very teary-eyed and it wasn't me.

Sharayah Pranger:
If it will make you feel better, when I watched Tangled with Chris, one of us was very teary-eyed and it wasn't me.

... it does, actually. :D

Hm. Only one person in this entire thread has mentioned Atlantis: The Lost Empire.

Call me prejudiced (and I am) but if a movie has singing in it, it instantly loses massive points in my book. I'm sorry, but I grew up kinda fast. No, I'm not trying to be "hardcore".

Seriously, you just can't beat magical god crystals, mercenaries, and ancient civilizations. And did I mention no singing?

My two favorites are Lion king and Beauty and the Beast.

The Lion King is just plain EPIC, and not in the slang sense, but it really feels like an ancient heroic epic. It is partially Hamlet, but Hamlet itself is part of a much older tale, that they both retold. Though it's also epic in the slang meaning of the world. The music during the stampade was actually chanting a reworked version of Dies Irae. How much more epic can you be than that? Not to mention the slow-mo lion-duel at the finale.

The Beauty and the Beast is just plain nerd-bait, with the "Belle" song, and the "Beauty and the Beast" song just beautiful. It's refrain also has a sense of epicness, "tale as old as time, song as old as rhyme", but in a more personal emotional sense. "Bittersweet and strange,
Finding you can change, Learning you were wrong".

Kyle:
First off, Chris should have mentioned (when we were talking about the antagonists) that Jafar offered more as a villain. He actually manages to win; exile for Aladdin, slavery for Genie, and most likely rape and torture for Jasmine.

**blinks**

**thinks about it for a second**

Holy shit.

I can't believe that never registered before. Wow.

That film wasn't exactly from my childhood, but it is still one I saw in the theater in my teens. So... yeah.

Damn. Someone should have posted that comment in the "let's ruin eachother's childhoods" thread a few months back. Nothing in that thread got me - this did.

And now to pass the love: if that is true, then the same likely applies to Jabba the Hut and Princess Leia.

You can't unsee it. Congrats. Enjoy your brain bleach.

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