Zero Punctuation: Darksiders 2

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Darksiders 2

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Darksiders 2.

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Hurray for wednesday. I might get Darksiders 2. I'll have to actually play the first one though, at the moment its gathering dust

Darksiders has more in common with 80s Heavy Metal album covers than it does with Warhammer.

Besides there is much more to 40k than just rage. There is love for The Emperor, devotion to The Emperor, humility before The Emperor, fear of The Emperor, see lots of emotions.

Ow, your desc. of the plot makes my head hurt. So just how many factions are involved here?

Some great quotes in this one.
My favorite: "It's not just padded, it's fractally padded". Although the one about "semen" at the end was pretty damn funny too.

Still think death should be less on the muscly side and more on the i touch you you're dead side.. but that would be like turning on godmode i guess..
eh not my kind of game, looks like grinding in an mmorpg.. just offline and alone

Can't spell Ben Yahtzee Croshaw without Cros :P
And Fractal Pading?
More like "Frak! Dull Padding" AmIright?

i'm disappointed to hear about the other two horsemen, i would really look forward to playing a game as famine or pestulence, it would be interesting at least.

But Yahtee... gathering three of something is a matter of video game tradition! Darksiders II only took it it its rational conclusion.

Also, I now say we should create a new term coming out of this video: fractal padding.

I must say I really enjoyed Darksiders 2.
I thought the story was good, the set pieces and cut-scenes were nice in no small part due to some really nice art.
The combat was decent too and I liked the added aspect of being able to craft weapons / loot game.

DS2 kept me hooked. Started it and played it right through till the end, which rarely happens nowadays.

okay yahtzee how the hell do you hold the controller? and how many fingers do you have? you always complain about holding shoulder buttons and trigger buttons at the same time. that hasn't been a problem since The N64. I thought we all got this down during the PS1/PS2 era, thumbs do all the top of controller work, index for top shoulder, middle finger for bottom shoulder/trigger, ring and pinky for stability. you've complained about this in a few videos now and it's starting to bug me.

wow *false shocked surprise* Yahtzee didn't like Darksiders, again, totaly didn't see that coming.

now if you excuse me i have relics and pages from the book of the dead to find

Did anyone else notice that in the panel under the video, it says Sleeping Dogs and not Darksiders II?

Fractally padded is my new favorite descriptor

I went in to Blockbuster with intentions to rent Darksiders 2 and came out with Fall Of Cybertron, because Blockbuster didn't bloody have any copies of Darksiders 2 to rent OR to buy a week after the games launch. So either way, I would of walked out with a boring game, good to know.

The Biblical Horsemen-

The Conqueror
War
Economic Turmoil (kind of. It's about scarcity of resources and price gouging)
Death

So...famine and pestilence were never horsemen.

canadamus_prime:
Ow, your desc. of the plot makes my head hurt. So just how many factions are involved here?

I'm betting it's really one all along. That's why it comes off as contrived. The end game will result in them all going "haha, just kidding!" after you've mowed down millions of peopel across six sequels and 40 spinoffs.

I started laughing at loud when Yahtzee started talking about Bureaucracy because they made a comic book of Death Jr. (I personally found the comics even better than the games, honestly) where Death tells the story of when he was in a band and Bureaucracy was the 5th Horseman who left before the band hit big so must people didn't even know there was a 5th Horseman

Really funny comic.

OverHaze:
Darksiders has more in common with 80s Heavy Metal album covers than it does with Warhammer.

Besides there is much more to 40k than just rage. There is love for The Emperor, devotion to The Emperor, humility before The Emperor, fear of The Emperor, see lots of emotions.

Not to mention the Chaos gods who are themselves made FROM various squalid pools of congealed emotion (Anger/Hate, Hope/Change, Despair/Depression, Joy/Pleasure) Il let you figure out where each one goes.

Also Tau arnt really as warlike as the other races. More just aggressively expansionist.

Hmm, I have a friend who thought this game was rather good. Then again, he really, REALLY, like Warhammer 40,000, so perhaps this is a game for those who like that. Or was he recommending Darksiders 1...?

Anyway, I have to agree with Yahtzee on Warhammer 40,000 and similar series. There doesn't seem to be so much as an ounce of positive emotion in them, and if there is, the perpetrator will be severly punished for it. Sounds rather silly, if you ask me...

TheFederation:
i'm disappointed to hear about the other two horsemen, i would really look forward to playing a game as famine or pestulence, it would be interesting at least.

I think the time delay on those guys' kills wouldn't have satisfied the average twitch-happy gamer:

FAMINE: I've burned your crops and salted the earth and a few months from now when your grain stores run out, you'll slowly die of starvation! Bwa-ha-ha!

Roslolian:
The Biblical Horsemen-

The Conqueror
War
Economic Turmoil (kind of. It's about scarcity of resources and price gouging)
Death

So...famine and pestilence were never horsemen.

Although Pestilence is the name of Death's horse in Revelations. Famine is sort of assumed under Resource Scarcity.

The Holy Bible, illustrated by Rob Liefield

Strain42:
I started laughing at loud when Yahtzee started talking about Bureaucracy because they made a comic book of Death Jr. (I personally found the comics even better than the games, honestly) where Death tells the story of when he was in a band and Bureaucracy was the 5th Horseman who left before the band hit big so must people didn't even know there was a 5th Horseman

Really funny comic.

I loved those comics (really, I love anything Ted Naifeh has touched). I didn't even know they were based on games until much later.

It sound to anyone else like they're getting their mythology from Sandman Slim?

Loved the review, it was really funny, but Famine and Pestilence are never called Famine and Pestilence in the Bible. The only Horsemen properly named in the official thing is Death. So you cannot complain about that bit.

rayen020:
okay yahtzee how the hell do you hold the controller? and how many fingers do you have? you always complain about holding shoulder buttons and trigger buttons at the same time. that hasn't been a problem since The N64. I thought we all got this down during the PS1/PS2 era, thumbs do all the top of controller work, index for top shoulder, middle finger for bottom shoulder/trigger, ring and pinky for stability. you've complained about this in a few videos now and it's starting to bug me.

I thought to same thing watching the video, I've never had trouble hitting multiple shoulder buttons, though still a good review.

Falseprophet:

TheFederation:
i'm disappointed to hear about the other two horsemen, i would really look forward to playing a game as famine or pestulence, it would be interesting at least.

I think the time delay on those guys' kills wouldn't have satisfied the average twitch-happy gamer:

FAMINE: I've burned your crops and salted the earth and a few months from now when your grain stores run out, you'll slowly die of starvation! Bwa-ha-ha!

What? No, that sounds fun, or at least a bit original. A game in which you carefully and manipulatively scheme and masterfully execute the total destruction of someone's food supplies. Could be a fun stealthy affair or something. I dunno. Sounds better than this load of unimaginative, repetitive soulless garbage, anyway.

Never again will the word 'horsemen' be the same for me.

Wow, never thought it would happen, but Yahtzee actually convinced me to not play a game '__'

Bravo Yahtzee, bravo...

Roslolian:
The Biblical Horsemen-

The Conqueror
War
Economic Turmoil (kind of. It's about scarcity of resources and price gouging)
Death

So...famine and pestilence were never horsemen.

It's actually constantly changed so there is are no fixed Horsemen. There are different beliefs and different representations. Conquest is also a Horseman for some.

vallorn:

OverHaze:
Darksiders has more in common with 80s Heavy Metal album covers than it does with Warhammer.

Besides there is much more to 40k than just rage. There is love for The Emperor, devotion to The Emperor, humility before The Emperor, fear of The Emperor, see lots of emotions.

Not to mention the Chaos gods who are themselves made FROM various squalid pools of congealed emotion (Anger/Hate, Hope/Change, Despair/Depression, Joy/Pleasure) Il let you figure out where each one goes.

Also Tau arnt really as warlike as the other races. More just aggressively expansionist.

I feel The Warp overtaking me, it is a Good Pain

Was looking forward to this one,pretty good one but I still think your vid of Darksiders 1 was better.

Anyway,I got the game myself and enjoyed it immensely compared to the first one.Really kept me busy during the August drought.

C117:
Hmm, I have a friend who thought this game was rather good. Then again, he really, REALLY, like Warhammer 40,000, so perhaps this is a game for those who like that. Or was he recommending Darksiders 1...?

Anyway, I have to agree with Yahtzee on Warhammer 40,000 and similar series. There doesn't seem to be so much as an ounce of positive emotion in them, and if there is, the perpetrator will be severly punished for it. Sounds rather silly, if you ask me...

Go read Brothers of the Snake. There is a character in that book that exists solely to point out how little emotion the rest of the universe seems to have. He is high ranking, good character, never turns evil and although wounded, doesn't die.

lord.jeff:

rayen020:
okay yahtzee how the hell do you hold the controller? and how many fingers do you have? you always complain about holding shoulder buttons and trigger buttons at the same time. that hasn't been a problem since The N64. I thought we all got this down during the PS1/PS2 era, thumbs do all the top of controller work, index for top shoulder, middle finger for bottom shoulder/trigger, ring and pinky for stability. you've complained about this in a few videos now and it's starting to bug me.

I thought to same thing watching the video, I've never had trouble hitting multiple shoulder buttons, though still a good review.

Yeah, me too. How on earth can you find it hard to hold down the left trigger and then the left bumper? Well I suppose it could be slightly mroe fiddly than you'd expect, but it's not exactly a problem due to a lack of fingers.

vallorn:

OverHaze:
Darksiders has more in common with 80s Heavy Metal album covers than it does with Warhammer.

Besides there is much more to 40k than just rage. There is love for The Emperor, devotion to The Emperor, humility before The Emperor, fear of The Emperor, see lots of emotions.

Not to mention the Chaos gods who are themselves made FROM various squalid pools of congealed emotion (Anger/Hate, Hope/Change, Despair/Depression, Joy/Pleasure) Il let you figure out where each one goes.

Also Tau arnt really as warlike as the other races. More just aggressively expansionist.

Hey, I'll have you know that Nurgle is actually pretty jolly, and not at all depressing. He just wants to share his gifts with everyone out there, because he loves you all! Squelch!

Oh, and maybe Yahtzee should crack open a Warhammer: 40K story that's about anyone except the SPESS MAHREENS!

rayen020:
okay yahtzee how the hell do you hold the controller? and how many fingers do you have? you always complain about holding shoulder buttons and trigger buttons at the same time. that hasn't been a problem since The N64. I thought we all got this down during the PS1/PS2 era, thumbs do all the top of controller work, index for top shoulder, middle finger for bottom shoulder/trigger, ring and pinky for stability. you've complained about this in a few videos now and it's starting to bug me.

It's because he has no fingers. Just circles for hands.

I am pretty disappointed they renamed the other two horsemen. I loved the first Darksiders and will get this one when Steam offers it for 20 dollars during Christmas. However changing the other two horsemen kind of makes me not want to get it because if they make a third game, there wont be anything new.

I liked playing as War, and Death could be handled similarly from a gameplay perspective, however I was hoping if they made a Darksiders 3, I would get to play as Famine or Pestilence. And that would mean they would have to redo gameplay mechanics, maybe Pestilence would infect people but not have any melee moves or something.

Darksiders 2 looks good though, I just hope they don't wimp out and make the other two horsemen into straight hack and slash fighters like Death and War are.

And yes Pestilence and Famine aren't the original horsemen but they are usually personified as actual beings. Hard to make a human represent economic turmoil. (Unless they look like a politician)

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