Jimquisition: Why the Wii U May Have Already "Won" Next-gen

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Foolproof:

ToastiestZombie:

ex275w:

A little bit wrong, since Microsoft spends 20 minutes talking about ESPN and Adidas, while Sony spends 15 minutes on the surely killer-app that the Wonderbook will be. Then they show the 2 minute trailers.

Oh god don't remind me about the wonderbook, watching that in the sony conference this year made me wonder how easy suicide would be with the various things I had in the room with me.

That is the good thing about Nintendo's conferences, there's rarely any bullshit. They tell you the details and give you the trailers instead of getting out people to demo EVERY single damn game they have to announce, or talk about it.

I'm sorry, how much bullshit on the TVii was there at the conference about the price? Oh look, 15 minutes of it.

I never watched that, so I don't know. I was more talking about their E3 conferences anyway.

I don't like the Wii-U so far as a gamer, I'm very suspicious of it's lack of... anything i would want.

There are two ways of looking at Jim's frankly brilliantly insightful idea; one is what Jim said. By losing a more narrow focus on games the other systems could be out-flanked by any number of other service based devices like a Smart TV.

The other way is that Sony and Microsoft manage to make legitimately desirable living-room hubs akin to what smartphones managed by moving away from calls and texts. The Wii-U could lose out on a new living-room gold-rush. There is just no way to tell.

Although i don't really buy the idea that the Wii-U is a console with a "Better focus on videogames". From what i've seen so far Nintnedo are once again blowing gimmick smoke up are arses. I don't see the software, all i see is a horrible looking 'social' focused online space and a flashy proprietary control system that no one will ever utilize well. Of course shouting "Tablet!" at idiots sells billions so i guess Nintendo is going to have the last laugh with the worst console... again.

the best news I saw about the wiiU so far was it's support of Unity3d.

If they loosen the reigns on their market and give publishers some freedom it might get some decent third party support and some indie games that seem right up Nintendo's alley.

Scrumpmonkey:
I don't like the Wii-U so far as a gamer, I'm very suspicious of it's lack of... anything i would want.

There are two ways of looking at Jim's frankly brilliantly insightful idea; one is what Jim said. By losing a more narrow focus on games the other systems could be out-flanked by any number of other service based devices like a Smart TV.

The other way is that Sony and Microsoft manage to make legitimately desirable living-room hubs akin to what smartphones managed by moving away from calls and texts. The Wii-U could lose out on a new living-room gold-rush. There is just no way to tell.

Although i don't really buy the idea that the Wii-U is a console with a "Better focus on videogames". From what i've seen so far Nintnedo are once again blowing gimmick smoke up are arses. I don't see the software, all i see is a horrible looking 'social' focused online space and a flashy proprietary control system that no one will ever utilize well. Of course shouting "Tablet!" at idiots sells billions so i guess Nintendo is going to have the last laugh with the worst console... again.

Well they may have the "worst" console, whatever that means, but if the success is half as good as the Wii, then Nintendo could be laughing again to the bank to have their machines print money.

beetrain:
I'd never heard of smart TVs until now. I guess it's obvious thing, but that motion control looks awkward.

Smart TVs are generally great, the motion controls could be better. They have all the same problems Kinect does for the Xbox, I wish my Samsung ES8000 didn't rely on it quite so much. For using face book though and for chucking files between TV, phone, tablet and PC (via kies etc) they are awesome.

ex275w:

Scrumpmonkey:
I don't like the Wii-U so far as a gamer, I'm very suspicious of it's lack of... anything i would want.

There are two ways of looking at Jim's frankly brilliantly insightful idea; one is what Jim said. By losing a more narrow focus on games the other systems could be out-flanked by any number of other service based devices like a Smart TV.

The other way is that Sony and Microsoft manage to make legitimately desirable living-room hubs akin to what smartphones managed by moving away from calls and texts. The Wii-U could lose out on a new living-room gold-rush. There is just no way to tell.

Although i don't really buy the idea that the Wii-U is a console with a "Better focus on videogames". From what i've seen so far Nintnedo are once again blowing gimmick smoke up are arses. I don't see the software, all i see is a horrible looking 'social' focused online space and a flashy proprietary control system that no one will ever utilize well. Of course shouting "Tablet!" at idiots sells billions so i guess Nintendo is going to have the last laugh with the worst console... again.

Well they may have the "worst" console, whatever that means, but if the success is half as good as the Wii, then Nintendo could be laughing again to the bank to have their machines print money.

And if its not as successful as the Wii for no good reason, then they probably won't.

ex275w:

Well they may have the "worst" console, whatever that means, but if the success is half as good as the Wii, then Nintendo could be laughing again to the bank to have their machines print money.

Friend-Codes alone made the Wii a bit of a joke compared to the other systems, their online aspect was embarrassing to say the least. Nintendo is prone to having good ideas and then surrounding them with TERRIBLE ideas. But I'm not going to turn this into another one of my "List of Wii's sins" posts. I just don't think modern Nintendo is capable of making a genuinely well rounded console, my overall experience on the Wii was one of frustration and disappointment at their lack of development.

Nintendo get a free pass on many things that would have any other company laughed out of building. Look at how the Wii's online capabilities developed (or didn't) and then look at the leaps and bounds to PSN. Nintendo simply didn't TRY in most areas that have been the major improvements this generation.

Foolproof:
What in the hell are you basing the idea that Sony won't focus on games next gen on?

By my count, for the past few years we've heard nothing from Guerilla, Sucker Punch, half of Naughty Dog, and SCE London. This points to all of these studios focusing on creating games for the Ps4 - games that, given the time they've been given, will likely be available for the systems launch. Whereas Nintendo could provide one worthwhile game at launch, that leaves Sony with four first party titles to wow us with.

My point is that the idea that the WiiU has a focus on games, or that this focus is moreso than its competitors, is simply fallacious.

Okay. Notice how Sony is, in a rare action, reusing IP while pushing forward. OR trying to branch out into the Nintendo-style market? How about the overall financial issues they've had. They aren't going bankrupt but as a minor part of larger corporation "hold" might be the order from on high for the betterment of the company because overall Sony has been pushing expensive bleeding edge (read buggy, unfeatured, prototypical EXPENSIVE crap) often before their production can keep up or without returns.

Sony's strategy will either payoff with a big win (possible, just not something you can bet on other than buying more lottery tickets, not a smart strategy) or change so they can expand into new markets or aren't going to do the AAA production escalation deathspiral. However Sony has differentiated itself as the premium electronic entertainment device while not selling well. They are in a bit of a jam. They aren't screwwed. But As I was saying I'm more ready for MS to thrive over Nintendo and Sony to well I don't think they can handle being the most expensive third placer. When Nintendo was doing this bad in market they just carved out a profitable set of niches. Sony has always been the run to #1. That's not a bad thing but MS is the HD #1 in terms of market penetration. Sony is behind MS in the western market overall. And its cost them lots of money to be there. Part of the problem is their strategy was too broad (they won the battle against HD but not the media war as even the Wii and cellphones now stream movies and people are slower to adopt bluray even with HD TVs all over)

ex275w:
I think the Wii U will be very successful with the "casual" market, since tablets are all the rage right now.
The "hardcore" market will be much better than with the Wii, since Nintendo is stealing plenty of Hardcore IPs from Sony.
The third party developers also seem to like the console a lot more than they liked the Wii, and Nintendo seems to be more willing to help 3rd parties and getting engines like Unity and Umbra.
Even /v/ videogames hive of scum and villany is pretty pumped for the Wii U.
The only ones who don't like it are the PC Master Race, Nintendo "haters" on the escapist, and people who hate any controller not resembling a Dualshock or XBox 360 controller.
Sony is in big trouble since Nintendo trounced them twice in the hand-held market and are courting hurt developers and Microsoft's Media hub experiment could prove to cripple their new console.

I dunno, wouldnīt people rather spend their money on a tablet? More specifically an iPad with a huge library of cheap games and other useful apps? Personally i donīt see this as being as popular as the wii, i donīt really think the casuals want more than Wii sports, and this isnīt wii sports. I just donīt think that Nintendo Land is as appealing.

It might still do well, but i really doubt that they will do AS well as they did before. Also thereīs a lot of talk that this console will win, because the other companies have yet to release information about new consoles? Iīm just thinking, wouldnīt it just be a matter of announcing mere exclusives on Xbox360 and Ps3 to make them as or more appealing as WiiU? It might be beneficial to us all if they start a new arms race, Sony and MS could race to keep their customers while Nintendo has to release a shitload of games to make people change hardware.

Ya know, I had never really thought about Smart TVs getting in the way of the bigger consoles before. Frankly, I have never REALLY used my Xbox for anything more than gaming, the occasional Netflix, and watching .wmvs from a flash drive. I use my PS3 for Netflix pretty often though. But Sony and Microsoft really WANT their consoles to be the one-stop-shop for all your entertainment, which there'd be no point to once Smart TVs really take off.

Compelling argument, Jim. Competition breeds a better product. Sometimes I wonder if my game console being able to do all of those things are because MS and Sony are wanting to bring gaming into the mainstream or if it is because they want to bring gamers themselves into the mainstream.

Also; thank you for doing that schtick at the end with Bayonetta. This isn't like what happened with Resident Evil - where Nintendo struck a contract with Capcom for a brief period of time, Platinum Games wasn't going to get it out there on their own and no one else wanted to help them. Maybe if more people would have bought the first Bayonetta, Sega wouldn't have been so reluctant to pick up the second.

Yeah, I switch off the video as soon as he talked about how great it is to meet him. Don't really see what so great about Jim.

Joriss:
Yeah, I switch off the video as soon as he talked about how great it is to meet him. Don't really see what so great about Jim.

It's his persona, he doesn't mean it and it's meant as a joke. I can literally feel the sarcasm of what he says radiating out of the screen.

Darmani:

Foolproof:
What in the hell are you basing the idea that Sony won't focus on games next gen on?

By my count, for the past few years we've heard nothing from Guerilla, Sucker Punch, half of Naughty Dog, and SCE London. This points to all of these studios focusing on creating games for the Ps4 - games that, given the time they've been given, will likely be available for the systems launch. Whereas Nintendo could provide one worthwhile game at launch, that leaves Sony with four first party titles to wow us with.

My point is that the idea that the WiiU has a focus on games, or that this focus is moreso than its competitors, is simply fallacious.

Okay. Notice how Sony is, in a rare action, reusing IP while pushing forward. OR trying to branch out into the Nintendo-style market? How about the overall financial issues they've had. They aren't going bankrupt but as a minor part of larger corporation "hold" might be the order from on high for the betterment of the company because overall Sony has been pushing expensive bleeding edge (read buggy, unfeatured, prototypical EXPENSIVE crap) often before their production can keep up or without returns.

Sony's strategy will either payoff with a big win (possible, just not something you can bet on other than buying more lottery tickets, not a smart strategy) or change so they can expand into new markets or aren't going to do the AAA production escalation deathspiral. However Sony has differentiated itself as the premium electronic entertainment device while not selling well. They are in a bit of a jam. They aren't screwwed. But As I was saying I'm more ready for MS to thrive over Nintendo and Sony to well I don't think they can handle being the most expensive third placer. When Nintendo was doing this bad in market they just carved out a profitable set of niches. Sony has always been the run to #1. That's not a bad thing but MS is the HD #1 in terms of market penetration. Sony is behind MS in the western market overall. And its cost them lots of money to be there. Part of the problem is their strategy was too broad (they won the battle against HD but not the media war as even the Wii and cellphones now stream movies and people are slower to adopt bluray even with HD TVs all over)

Sony's slippage into third place was the result of an act of hubris that they are incredibly unlikely to repeat. Besides which, the elements for Microsofts western dominance come basically from the self perpetuating cycle of it being seen as the dominant console. Its strength has lay in the third party games it shares with the Ps3 for years, it only succeeds because of a lower price and because it is seen as the ubiquitous console - both of which could easily change in the next generation.

With an early focus on games to contrast it with Microsofts more-than-likely lack of the same (all of their internal studios, and even most of their third party partners, are working on 360 games, with virtually no-one left over to work on the Xbox 720 exclusives), Sony will likely regain the position of dominance they held for the 5th and 6th generation.

You must admit, the Ps3's lack of success can be attributed largely to a freak case of hubris, one incredibly unlikely to repeat itself.

Scrumpmonkey:

ex275w:

Well they may have the "worst" console, whatever that means, but if the success is half as good as the Wii, then Nintendo could be laughing again to the bank to have their machines print money.

Friend-Codes alone made the Wii a bit of a joke compared to the other systems, their online aspect was embarrassing to say the least. Nintendo is prone to having good ideas and then surrounding them with TERRIBLE ideas. But I'm not going to turn this into another one of my "List of Wii's sins" posts. I just don't think modern Nintendo is capable of making a genuinely well rounded console, my overall experience on the Wii was one of frustration and disappointment at their lack of development.

Nintendo get a free pass on many things that would have any other company laughed out of building. Look at how the Wii's online capabilities developed (or didn't) and then look at the leaps and bounds to PSN. Nintendo simply didn't TRY in most areas that have been the major improvements this generation.

Well sure, I like my Wii so my opinion might be tainted, since I have a steady supply supply of PC games and I hate online multiplayer mostly due to living in Mexico and always having horrendous amounts of lag. So the Sin or whatever you call it of having crappy online is lost on me. Still I am good at ignoring Nintendo's "gimmicks" and concentrate on having fun. I do think the Wii U will be more focused on the hardcore, since they aren't focusing on disrupting the Market at much.

Oh.

...OHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Okay, I'll be less pessimistic about the Wii U now. It still needs to give me some games I would actually play before I get it, though.

Joriss:
Don't really see what so great about Jim.

You have my sympathies.

It's probably been brought up, but I'll say it anyway. You can turn any TV with as low as composite inputs (and pretty much all have HDMI)into a smart TV by buying one of those Smart-Top Boxes. They're between $50-$100 and replicate the smart TV experience without the need of a monthly subscription. Sure it won't have all of the features of the TV designed to be smart, but it gets the job done about as well as 360 or PS3.

And I just checked Bestbuy's site, Smart TV's aren't even that expensive for a moderate size (Phillips: 32" about $300)

And I'll say this right now, as a long time gamer, the ability to keep gaming while everyone else uses the TV is a godsend. Me playing my game was always outvoted, but now both can happen. Gone are the days of 10 minute journeys to find the next save point while everyone else just sits and gets frustrated we aren't stopping. Picture in picture helped with that a bit, but that feature is a lost art when it comes to modern TVs.

MrBaskerville:

ex275w:
I think the Wii U will be very successful with the "casual" market, since tablets are all the rage right now.
The "hardcore" market will be much better than with the Wii, since Nintendo is stealing plenty of Hardcore IPs from Sony.
The third party developers also seem to like the console a lot more than they liked the Wii, and Nintendo seems to be more willing to help 3rd parties and getting engines like Unity and Umbra.
Even /v/ videogames hive of scum and villany is pretty pumped for the Wii U.
The only ones who don't like it are the PC Master Race, Nintendo "haters" on the escapist, and people who hate any controller not resembling a Dualshock or XBox 360 controller.
Sony is in big trouble since Nintendo trounced them twice in the hand-held market and are courting hurt developers and Microsoft's Media hub experiment could prove to cripple their new console.

I dunno, wouldnīt people rather spend their money on a tablet? More specifically an iPad with a huge library of cheap games and other useful apps? Personally i donīt see this as being as popular as the wii, i donīt really think the casuals want more than Wii sports, and this isnīt wii sports. I just donīt think that Nintendo Land is as appealing.

It might still do well, but i really doubt that they will do AS well as they did before. Also thereīs a lot of talk that this console will win, because the other companies have yet to release information about new consoles? Iīm just thinking, wouldnīt it just be a matter of announcing mere exclusives on Xbox360 and Ps3 to make them as or more appealing as WiiU? It might be beneficial to us all if they start a new arms race, Sony and MS could race to keep their customers while Nintendo has to release a shitload of games to make people change hardware.

Nintendo Land is certainly not as appealing as Wii Sports. People spend tons of money on tablets and stuff lately so having a more familiar looking console could be beneficial, kids as well love touchscreen devices.
Still it'd be great if Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony put all their effort in delivering the best console possible, since this generation was marked by huge amounts of bullshit like Online passes.
I do think Nintendo is winning by actually having a console coming out, leading to at least one year before the other consoles release. Also gaming history has proved that the consoles (except the SNES) with the least horsepower wins the generation.

I like the direction you took this discussion, Jim. At times I have wondered about how SmartTV will affect things like XBL, but for some reason never considered it in discussions about next gen consoles.

Captcha: Bee line

daibakuha:

SuperRobot64:

daibakuha:
Who cares about all this superfluous bullshit? Consoles live and die by software, not by what other services they provide. Nintendo can't provide the experience I want out of a console, and I won't be buying from them.

What is the 360 or PS3 providing that the Wii U isn't?

Non gimicky controllers. 3rd party support.

Oh really?

Hey, you want to know something cool? Guess what the 360's best selling game of all time is.

...

...Kinect Adventures! Isn't that brilliant? I mean, it's one of the two 'hardcore' consoles, and its best-selling game is a collection of casual games for a gimmicky controller. Oh the irony...

Rellik San:

Jeremy Monken:
Smart TVs still aren't very close to providing a real hardcore gaming experience. They will, at most, have minigamey little app type games along the lines of Angry Birds or all the cheeseball Kinect games. That's the kind of gameplay the WiiU is likely to offer with a lot of its titles.

So how can the WiiU "win" when it's competing with the Smart TVs while the next entries from MS and Sony will be the hardcore traditional consoles we've come to know and love?

WiiU is trying to take on tablets, consoles and smart TVs all at once while doing nothing to appeal to someone that wants all three. Not to mention the buyers remorse it has to overcome with millions of dusty Wiis out there.

I'm betting on Microsoft in this round.

What.. the.. I don't even... what?

Firstly, didn't you miss the point that it's actually Sony and MS pushing into the all round arena, not Nintendo, secondly and I speak for a lot of Wii owners out there... what buyers remorse? Seriously, I dropped a small amount of money for a machine I whip out when friends are around or for playing games like No More Heroes and Red Steel 2. Like... seriously... I don't even... where do these assumptions about Hardcore gamers come from?

Can we have a new definition please? Something like.. I don't know... you're only truly hardcore if you remember your tape deck chewing your Commodore/Spectrum games? Just something that prevents the ravening mob pointing at something and screaming; GREEEWWAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH WHAT ABOUT THE HARDCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!! THAT'S NOT FOR THE HARDCORE!!!!!111!!!!! WHY DO YOU HATE THE HARDCORE!!!!!!111!!!!!

Seriously... are you all like the Borg, some kind of hive mind who all instinctively know what all the "Hardcore" gamers think... cos seriously, as a hard core gamer, I ain't feeling part of the collective.

The Wii does not have bullshit firmware updates, has a very good controller, very good games and for you "hardcore" elitists out there COD: BLOPS. I Love my Wii, Zelda games? yes please, No more Heros? Yes Please, can you hack it to install your own stuff. Yes.

People need to shut up and not have the no true Scotsman argument.

The Wii does not have bullshit firmware updates, has a very good controller, very good games and for you "hardcore" elitists out there COD: BLOPS. I Love my Wii, Zelda games? yes please, No more Heros? Yes Please, can you hack it to install your own stuff. Yes.

People need to shut up and not have the no true Scotsman argument.[/quote]
While i do agree that it has good games, i canīt agree that it had a good controller, which games were you playing? When i play games like Muramasa the demon blade or Mad world i canīt help but imagine how much easier it would be to control with a normal controller. I think the only games i have that works withouth problems are WarioWare and Trauma Center. Incidentially though, also two of the games i get the most enjoyment out of, on the system, especially WarioWare.

Iīve been in situations where i thought: "hey, this is practically playable" but never have i thought: "this is better than old-school controls!".

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:

Oh really?

Hey, you want to know something cool? Guess what the 360's best selling game of all time is.

...

...Kinect Adventures! Isn't that brilliant? I mean, it's one of the two 'hardcore' consoles, and its best-selling game is a collection of casual games for a gimmicky controller. Oh the irony...

Perhaps you don't know, so let me inform you. The presence of optional gimicky controllers on other consoles does not excuse the Wii and Wiiu's default gimicky bullshit controller.

You should also note that best selling doesn't equate to good.

Also, look up the defintion of irony, you don't seem to understand it's usage.

Evil Smurf:

The Wii does not have bullshit firmware updates, has a very good controller, very good games and for you "hardcore" elitists out there COD: BLOPS. I Love my Wii, Zelda games? yes please, No more Heros? Yes Please, can you hack it to install your own stuff. Yes.

People need to shut up and not have the no true Scotsman argument.

You Nintendo fans are delusional. The Wii had a good controller? Are you fucking kidding me?

daibakuha:

Perhaps you don't know, so let me inform you. The presence of optional gimicky controllers on other consoles does not excuse the Wii and Wiiu's default gimicky bullshit controller.

OK, the Wiimote I can let go, but how is the Gamepad a gimmick?

All it is is a regular controller with a touchscreen in the middle. Almost exactly the same as what the DS has been offering for a decade now, and what things like smartphones and tablets have turned into the biggest gaming interface in the world.

Seriously, does there not come a point when we can stop referring to the biggest form of gaming in the world as a 'gimmick'. The nature of the word 'gimmick' means something niche, and without any readily apparent potential usage. If touchscreens have managed to become the most popular gaming medium in the world, then does that not mean that they're no longer gimmicks? That they are, in fact, standard? Regular? Normal?

I mean, what's next? Are we still going to refer to analogue sticks and rumble feedback as gimmicks now? Or memory cards? Or non-arcade consoles?

The Wii U has got a touchscreen. They're not this new, unknown technology. You don;t have to be scared of them. Plenty of developers have shown that they can actually work really well if used right. Surely that's something to be optimistic about, right? Rather than needlessly pouring bile onto anything that doesn't follow a twenty year old design template?

You should also note that best selling doesn't equate to good.

No, but if people are going to hold a console up as a 'hardcore' console, it would be nice if it didn't have a motion controller, and its best selling game wasn't a minigame collection for said controller. You know, in the name of consistency and all that...

Also, look up the defintion of irony, you don't seem to understand it's usage.

No, I think I got it pretty well. A gaming base celebrates a console for being hardcore, yet its best selling peripheral is a motion controller, and its most successful game is a casual minigame collection. That's about as ironic as it gets, really. If I were an English teacher, I'd be giving out extra marks for good use of irony there. But thank you for your concern about my comprehension of English. It is duly noted.

Indeed, every time a videogame sends me into a rage, the first thing I do is hose myself down with hamburger condiments. Jim, you're too fucking brilliant for your own good. You're my write-in for President come November.

I share your sentiments on Bayonetta 2 also Jim. Total non-event.

The Wii-U just doesn't look fun to play for me. Plus the screen seems more like a dashboard, which I though a HUD was a step up from.
Also didn't the Sega Dreamcast have a screen in the controller? Didn't that fail miserably? And was the last console they produced? Could this be foreboding of things to come? :O

Sorry but I don't see any reason to pay Ģ400 for a console that will just keep giving us old games with new gimmicks.

In fact I don't see any reason to buy the next Xbox or Playstation either. Games on PC are giving us the option to use controllers more and more now. And with the ability to download whatever games I want I don't see myself going back to consoles.

More on topic now, I can definitely agree that Nintendo do seem to be doing it right so far compared to what Sony and MS are doing, especially compared to MS. The thing is, down the line, I think that the WiiU will end up like the Wii; used as a doorstop or gathering dust away from sight. And to be honest I'm not willing to shell out Ģ400 to find out if that'll happen again.

Proeliator:
The Wii-U just doesn't look fun to play for me. Plus the screen seems more like a dashboard, which I though a HUD was a step up from.
Also didn't the Sega Dreamcast have a screen in the controller? Didn't that fail miserably? And was the last console they produced? Could this be foreboding of things to come? :O

Well... no. The dreamcast had a memory card in the middle of the controller that didn't affect the gameplay at all. It was just a neat little thing that flashed a bit whilst you played and when you weren't playing you could take it out ( inevitably lose it)and play mini-games on it.

Meh, hardcore gamers are dickheads so what ya gonna do?

BTW, my impression of the Bayonetta WiiU whiners would go a little something more like "Waah waah, I'm a whiny little bitch! Waah waah!"

CardinalPiggles:
Sorry but I don't see any reason to pay Ģ400 for a console that will just keep giving us old games with new gimmicks.

In fact I don't see any reason to buy the next Xbox or Playstation either. Games on PC are giving us the option to use controllers more and more now. And with the ability to download whatever games I want I don't see myself going back to consoles.

More on topic now, I can definitely agree that Nintendo do seem to be doing it right so far compared to what Sony and MS are doing, especially compared to MS. The thing is, down the line, I think that the WiiU will end up like the Wii; used as a doorstop or gathering dust away from sight. And to be honest I'm not willing to shell out Ģ400 to find out if that'll happen again.

1. Get your numbers right. The price is now high because it's sold out and people want to earn lots of cash. The premium version was ~Ģ250. Ģ150 is a HUGE difference.

2. I don't think the word "gimmick" applies to touchscreens. The DS proved it's not something niche that won't be used. Also, any tablet and smartphone. Developer showed with many great games that the touchscreen can be used to enchant the gameplay. And there is also the Pro controller. As you could see in the CoD demonstration, you're able to play it normally on the Pro controller. So if the developer don't know how to use the touchscreen, they don't have to.

3.Old games? Please.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/nintendo-reveals-the-51-wii-u-launch-titles/
Most games are either exclusives or games that will be released simultaneously for the WiiU and the PS360.

4. The WiiU GPU will be a e6760. That's like 4 times stronger than the PS3. The CPU is unknown for now and it has 2GB of ram. I doubt that the difference between the next Xbox and PS will be as big as the current gen difference. At worst, we will get WiiU games with tiny bit worst textures. I highly doubt it will share the same faith as the Wii. Tho my Wii surly isn't gathering dust.

I'm just going to play my PS2 and Xbox until the end of time.

As usual, so very valid points made in this video. With Nintendo once again getting a jump start on the competition, we will see if they capitalize on the head start. I definitely agree Microsoft might be shooting themselves in the foot with the attitude that, "Our online service commands your money". Guess we shall see soon enough.

ex275w:

Nintendo Land is certainly not as appealing as Wii Sports.

Ma'am (Or Sir), I resent that. I've played Wii Sports and I've played Nintendo Land. And let me assure you, that if I chose to save one and chose to toss another one in a burning Garbage can, I would take Nintendo Land ever time.

I played it at a WiiU Experience in Washington D.C., and it was indeed a shiner there! It used the all of the controllers intelligently, the mini games were amazing, the game looked beautiful, and it was just so much fun no matter what controller you used or what game you played! What does Wii Sports have? Tennis, Boxing, and Bowling... Snore...

OT: Interesting points Mr. Jim. I'm already excited about the WiiU though.

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