The Big Picture: Schlocktober 2012: Orca

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Hmm, in Jaws 2 they establish a Great White Shark has returned to amity because they found the mauled remains of an Orca whale, do you reckon that was the studio's rebuttal to De Lorentis?

Man this movie really "Jumped the Whale"!

I'll show myself out...

gigastar:

Daveman:
Didn't that ice berg bit also happen in futurama?

It does.

Whether or not its an intentional shoutout is the real question now...

Probably not. Orca's legitimately hunt like that IRL. They break up ice sheets and use their body weight to guide seals and penguins towards other members of their pack for killing.

They also have been known to play with their pray before finishing them off and also just strait up kill for fun.

They are indeed the only animal that hunts white sharks, also they love to take down pray bigger than themselves because they love the hunt.

All in all. Orca's are dicks.

Draconalis:

MB202:
I used to call them killer whales, but now I call them Orcas, because killer whales, regardless of how true that name is in the wild, seems to condescending to me.

For more justification, Orcas aren't whales. They are dolphins.

Actually dolphins are whales (Toothed Whales).
EDIT: I mean they belong to the same order, Cetacea, which is commonly referred to and directly translates to the whales. I'm not referring to baleen whales, which are a suborder within the order Cetacea. I refer to whales generally.

Frieswiththat:

Actually dolphins are whales.

Citation please, I've never come across anything to support that statement.

That film just sounds flat out incredible

Draconalis:

Frieswiththat:

Actually dolphins are whales.

Citation please, I've never come across anything to support that statement.

When you say whale, are you referring to baleen whales like humpbacks and blue whales, or do mean the common name for the order Cetacea, which include the Odontocetes, the toothed whales, like dolphins, orca, porpoises, belugas, sperm whales and tooth whales, and the Mysticetes, the baleen whales, such as humpbacks, greys, rights, bowheads, blues, fins and minkes. Pretty much saying 'dolphins are whales' is like saying 'lions are cats'. Some people might interpret that as 'Lions are housecats', while some will interpret it as 'Lions are Felids'.

Frieswiththat:
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I use whale in layman terms, because it is not wise to assume one has knowledge otherwise. I must admit I had not personally thought of it like that, but what you say makes sense.

this is that killer dolphin movie youve been looking for. Orcas are dolphins despite being called whales.

So I was reading Batman: Black Mirror today, and it got up to a point where Dick Grayson was tripping out on fear toxin and fell into the harbor. Well next thing I know he's hallucinating being attacked by an Orca who is saying "I'm coming for ya Dickie! Gonna eat you!"... I immediately burst out into a fit of laughter because all I could think about was this review.

MovieBob:
Schlocktober 2012: Orca

Sea World will never be the same again.

Watch Video

hey, bob, can you please point out next big picture that killer whales/orcas are not actually whales but dolphins?

because they shits been irritating me for 19 years that people dont know that.

abort_user:
this is that killer dolphin movie youve been looking for. Orcas are dolphins despite being called whales.

JESUS CHRIST FINALLY SOMEONE KNOWS THAT BIT OF TRIVIA BESIDES ME!!!

+10 Internets for you sir.

MB202:
I used to call them killer whales, but now I call them Orcas, because killer whales, regardless of how true that name is in the wild, seems to condescending to me.

that and they are not really whales....but dolphins

themilo504:
When you said that the first part of the orca.s plan could be possible I like to know what you were smoking because 1 I don't even a orca can eat that much fish 2 there not that smart and if they are I say we put them on the top 3 things that may exterminate humanity in the future.

well actually, whales and dolphins can actually drive away fish from areas or in some cases, help drive fish towards humans who will in turn feed them some of the caught fish.

they are very intelligent animals.

Frieswiththat:

Draconalis:

MB202:
I used to call them killer whales, but now I call them Orcas, because killer whales, regardless of how true that name is in the wild, seems to condescending to me.

For more justification, Orcas aren't whales. They are dolphins.

Actually dolphins are whales.

nope...they're related by dont belong in the same genus.

Jegsimmons:

Frieswiththat:

Draconalis:

For more justification, Orcas aren't whales. They are dolphins.

Actually dolphins are whales.

nope...they're related by dont belong in the same genus.

True. But they belong to the same order (Cetacea) COMMONLY KNOWN AS the whales. I'm assuming you're using whale to refer to baleen whales, in which case you're not referring to a single genus but in fact a suborder of Cetacea, the Mysticetes. See post 77 for a more depth view on what I mean when I say whale.

Draconalis:

Frieswiththat:
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I use whale in layman terms, because it is not wise to assume one has knowledge otherwise. I must admit I had not personally thought of it like that, but what you say makes sense.

Fair enough. I shall keep that in mind next time.

Frieswiththat:

Jegsimmons:

Frieswiththat:

Actually dolphins are whales.

nope...they're related by dont belong in the same genus.

True. But they belong to the same order (Cetacea) COMMONLY KNOWN AS the whales. I'm assuming you're using whale to refer to baleen whales, in which case you're not referring to a single genus but in fact a suborder of Cetacea, the Mysticetes. See post 77 for a more depth view on what I mean when I say whale.

regardless, calling dolphins whales in almost every sense or common use is wrong.

when we say 'An orca is a dolphin not a whale' we dont mean family grouping, we mean genus or species.

its like saying a Hyena is a dog, in a sense true, because they're both canines but wrong in every other use.

Jegsimmons:

Frieswiththat:

Jegsimmons:

nope...they're related by dont belong in the same genus.

True. But they belong to the same order (Cetacea) COMMONLY KNOWN AS the whales. I'm assuming you're using whale to refer to baleen whales, in which case you're not referring to a single genus but in fact a suborder of Cetacea, the Mysticetes. See post 77 for a more depth view on what I mean when I say whale.

regardless, calling dolphins whales in almost every sense or common use is wrong.

when we say 'An orca is a dolphin not a whale' we dont mean family grouping, we mean genus or species.

its like saying a Hyena is a dog, in a sense true, because they're both canines but wrong in every other use.

To address your first point, the term whale CAN be used to refer to cetaceans as a whole, but normally doesn't include dolphins and porpoises. So no. I'm not wrong in EVERY sense, just common use.

Secondly, orca do NOT belong to the same genus as dolphins as dolphin is the common term for the family Delphinidae, in which there are 17 genera, including porpoises, orca and a variety of others. Dolphin does NOT refer to a single genus or species.

Thirdly, no. Saying 'Dolphins are whales' is not like saying 'Hyenas are dogs', mainly because dolphins are whales in a broad sense so it's not entirely incorrect. Saying Hyenas are dogs, however, IS entirely incorrect. Hyenas are not canines like dogs (which belong to the family of Canidae), but feliforms (belonging to the suborder of Feliformia), making them closer to the Cats (the family Felidae) than the Dogs (the family Canidae). A more correct thing to say would be 'Hyenas/dogs are Carnivorans', as both belong to the order of Carnivora. This statement is more congruent with the statement 'Dolphins are whales' as whale in this case is being used to describe the order of Cetacea.

Actually, while we're on this topic what would you class as a whale? Preferably refer to species for examples. That way I can see where you're coming from.

OK everyone can stop having the 'whale vs dolphin' argument now. The real reason orcas are called 'killer whales' is because they kill whales for food. The name was originally 'whale killer,' but it got flipped around at some point and the change stuck.

Draconalis:

MB202:
I used to call them killer whales, but now I call them Orcas, because killer whales, regardless of how true that name is in the wild, seems to condescending to me.

For more justification, Orcas aren't whales. They are dolphins.

Oh, I see. Well, in that regard, Orca really is a better name for them. Unless people start calling them "killer dolphins".

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