Jimquisition: Booth Babes

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Booth Babes

The punditry of the videogame community have been chatting an awful lot about booth babes this past year or so.

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The more I hear Jim's campaign pitches, the more I want to vote for him.

This needs to happen.

In relevance to the topic, instead of getting rid of Booth Babes, why not just have them wear something more professional and tone down the makeup? They keep their job and others don't have to feel uncomfortable.

Booth Baby LOL! best ending ever way to pull it back jim. (although I did think you were going to start break dancing which may have been better)

captcha: pipe dream its almost like it knows

These videos are starting to go on too long. Last week's and this week's seem to have Jim spend an extra 3 minutes to sum up a point he made in the first 4 minutes. That's not really a summation as much as it is watching the same video twice in a row.

Break Dancing Booth babes! Let them wear whatever the hell they want as long as they keep their naughty bits covered.

Well,let's be honest some of them ARE alien...But it didn't occur to me that models could lose their job because of this,even though I still wasn't all the way in favor of removing booth babes.But in the end only they lose,but at the same time I'm sure they can show off their sexy body somewhere else.
We've got enough problems of our own as a demographic/community,we don't need extra factors causing them.

Lvl 64 Klutz:
These videos are starting to go on too long. Last week's and this week's seem to have Jim spend an extra 3 minutes to sum up a point he made in the first 4 minutes. That's not really a summation as much as it is watching the same video twice in a row.

I made one side of the argument in the first four. Hadn't even addressed the conflicting flipside yet. If you feel they're too long, that is fair enough criticism (I always try and keep them shorter than they turn out), but you must have been watching a different video. Not to mention, most videos have always been between seven and eight minutes and this one was. Previous two were closer to ten, so you really did pick the wrong vid, considering this one brought the viewing time back to average.

Let's have some standards back in our criticism.

Vote Sterling.

We don't need to get rid of booth babes to make women more comfortable. The complaints aren't that they exist, but the way they are employed and the fashion in which they dress.

Regardless, being told to put clothes on or move locations is not dehumanising them. It's a reflection of the terrible choices made by the employers, as they're the ones setting the mandate. And honestly, these women were hired to be T&A and surrendered a good chunk of their autonomy in doing so. The superficial argument Jim makes is that there's even no evidence that they don't like it. Well, if it's safe to assume they're okay with it, they have no right to complain that they're being asked to cover up in a private expo.

Either way, pick a side: free will or "just following orders." You cannot have it both ways.

Booth Babes get hired through agencies, I'm pretty sure the gaming community hasn't heard from many of them is because they really don't care about gaming as a pastime.

It's a generalization of course. I'm sure there are attractive women out there that genuinely enjoy gaming. They'll always have a job at G4 though.

personally, this seems to be making a mountain out of a mole hill. I've no problem with booth babes and wouldn't really miss them if they were gone. It's kinda like the women who hold up the boards with driver numbers on them at F1 races, they're kinda just 'there'.
I only really have problem with them when they're made to do something over the top for gain attention. Only example that's stuck in my mind was when Playboy: The Mansion was at E3 and the booth babes had only painted on bikinis.
I do understand the argument that some people feel 'ugly' next to them, but that's more a self esteem issue that you need to deal with yourself. I'm hardly a prime example of a man but if I was stood next to that ultimate example of a man, Jim Sterling, I wouldn't feel any worse for myself. I'd just thank god for being next to Jim Sterling.

I'm firmly anti booth babe on the basic that if they're pretty woman willing to do that kind of job they can easily find another job.
Plus speaking as a asexual person I just hate thing like booth babes especially when connected with video games.

Jimothy Sterling:
Booth Babes

The punditry of the videogame community have been chatting an awful lot about booth babes this past year or so.

Watch Video

Thank god someone who's not treating these ladies like some kind of plague. There people too and I intend to treat them as such. also the fact that you can still have cosplayers where the booth babes are banned is hypocritical to me.

My solution: Find a middleground. since no one is objectively right instead of causing these poor women to lose jobs. Why not just dress em up a bit and hell teach em something about the games, make them knowledgable about the product.

I don't care, I'm just sick and tired of all these gender "issues" popping up fucking everywhere. Chill the fuck down, not everything has to be taken so goddamn seriously.

Truth be told, I kind of chuckled at the Booth baby part.

I'm not entirely against the idea of booth babes, but I do think that if they are going to be there at least make them relevant. Don't just have sexy women standing around in bikinis, have them cosplay a character from your game and interact with expo-goers. As for the other side of the argument, with the gaming audience coming closer and closer to 50% men and 50% women, why aren't we seeing booth hunks? The gender issues would be lessened, especially if the babe/hunk was contextualized to the game they were there to help market. You get to keep your booth babes, you create a more inclusive show, and honestly who wouldn't want to get a picture of Kratos about to pummel them into giblets at one of these shows?

Do people really have the job as "booth babes"? I honestly though they where hired models. In which case they wont be losing their "jobs" if we get rid of them, they just have to model elsewhere.

I have a question though: don't car shows also have their own version of booth babes?

Add Booth Dudes. There, gender equality. Can we move on now?

Excludos:
Do people really have the job as "booth babes"? I honestly though they where hired models. In which case they wont be losing their "jobs" if we get rid of them, they just have to model elsewhere.

That would imply that modeling jobs are a bottomless resource that can be tapped at will. They aren't. It's like saying that if you close half the clubs in town, the bands that relied on them for gigs can just go play elsewhere. Most models don't have steady "jobs", they need gigs kinda like musicians and actors. And just like musicians and actors, plenty go without getting any work.

Now I don't have any problems with booth babes, but I don't really care about them at all. At a computer expo earlier this year I looked at a few laptops and some new graphic cards CPUs, screens and such. I actually didn't see the booth babe presenting it because of the sexy computer stuff so they don't bother me, nor do they make any kind of impact at all.

If people are uncomfortable with them I see no problem in removing them and replacing them. In fact seeing some good speakers with a deep knowledge on what they are presenting would be a huge improvement because I will assume that most who go to these kind of things are interested in the product, not the hot girls.

Still I am neutral so I leave what we should do with this to someone who got more knowledge or more invested in this.

Calling the use of booth babes creatively lazy pretty much sums up what I think of having them around. I'm not offended or anything, but I am sort of avoiding them and the booths they are in. If the publishers think that the only way to catch my attention is with boobs then they don't think very highly of me, and I don't like to be talked down to.
I've seen some booths with cosplayers and that was awesome. It showed that they loved the world they had built. A woman in a tube top and a mini skirt with a logo shows that they didn't have a clue how to market their game.

So to sum up (without the use of a shovel) Jimmy don't like the ladies 'cause they make his bits tingle.

OT: I CAN see the relevance of booth babes as mascots at a comic, gaming or sporting events but NOT at some thing like a showcase for the new iPhone.

It would be like having cheerleaders at a chess meet, since chess is a quiet sport and the cheerleaders job is to get the crowd into a lather.

And don't feel bad 'cause the girls look good; it's probably the only job she can get that doesn't require a 3 camera setup and a bottle of lube.

***REMEMBER KIDS*** Stay in school!

Booth Boys? Bro's?

Jimothy Sterling:
...figuring out how to feed the poor and raise the debt ceiling...

I thought, nay hoped, you were going to say "..raise the dead..". Well that's one vote no longer going to Stirling/Dafoe.

I remember at the Gamescom in Cologne 2011, there was a tv station talking smack about gamer and a boothbabe who was telling them how gamers are lazy bums, who stink.

So yeah, if boothbabes, make them being cosplaying and check if they actually are at least a bit into the stuff they are presenting/ representing.

I must say I did expect the Booth Baby to end up like this.

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But anyway, I didn't particularly care if they are there or not, but if it gives these girls jobs and they enjoy it, why not let them continue. Make them put on more clothes, and participate more in showing off the game besides perhaps just standing there (I assume that's what they do) but I don't see a huge need to get rid of them. And get Booth Bros as well if there's a potential gender issue as well.

the laugh at the end sold it.

my feelings about booth babes are similar to my feelings of people who do porn. im not saying wearing skimpy outfits to pander to male gamers is is the same as having sex for money, but you can argue that some women may be doing both out of enjoyment and dont feel at all objectified. but at the end of the day, they are doing it for money, and i feel it gets harder to argue that youre doing it because you enjoy it or feel empowered by it, when what youre doing in a scene or what youre wearing at a con is decided by someone else and youre dependent on doing what they tell you in order to get your paycheck. this is one of those areas where all i can really do is say that i dont like it but dont have a right to tell someone what to do with their life or their body

Jimothy Sterling:
Booth Babes

The punditry of the videogame community have been chatting an awful lot about booth babes this past year or so.

Watch Video

Oh god damn it Jim, what was the cartoon you used a clip from? With the purple lizard guy? It stirred something in the back of my brain from my childhood but I can't remember what.

rbstewart7263:

Jimothy Sterling:
Booth Babes

The punditry of the videogame community have been chatting an awful lot about booth babes this past year or so.

Watch Video

Thank god someone who's not treating these ladies like some kind of plague. There people too and I intend to treat them as such. also the fact that you can still have cosplayers where the booth babes are banned is hypocritical to me.

My solution: Find a middleground. since no one is objectively right instead of causing these poor women to lose jobs. Why not just dress em up a bit and hell teach em something about the games, make them knowledgable about the product.

You mean something like teach them the basic pitch for the product, let them play it for a short bit to get the most basic grasp of what they're talking about, suit them up as characters from the game in question, and call it a day?

Or something more like the SodaPop Girls (though several of them have characters based on them in that tentacle rape card game, so now they could pretty easily be the first group)?

CAPTCHA: crash and burn. Yes, captcha this thread most probably will.

It's up to the organizers and their conscience, ultimately. But since it really is just a matter of sheer personal preference, the best way to resolve it would be to have people vote about whether or not they want to see this kind of thing at the events, wouldn't it? It's a conflict of interests, so out of principle, someone's gonna have to lose out. That's just life. I get that the women might like their job, but at the end of the day, it's their own problem.

Now, since I am a man, and nobody gives a flying fuck what men think on these issues (unless your business card says "feminist" on it, that is), I just wanted to say that, were I physically able, I would get a job as "booth eye candy" faster than you could blink.

I think they should have booth-people dressed up as the characters in the games they're portraying. Offering a quick visual cue for people and adding a level of familiarity and a few nice photos. Just paid cosplayers in that case. Models keep their jobs, booths get an eye-catched, they cover up a bit for the anti-booth babe crowd, they see tits on the Dead or Alive or Soul Calibur booth for the pro-booth babe crowd. Everyone wins.

Oh also if you're going to have a game with someone running around scantly clad like the aforementioned Dead or Alive or Soul Calibur and THAT'S OK to show at your convention then it's kinda hypocritical to say that the dress code is too appalling. So it's "Making games about people with big tits = good" but "hiring people to dress up like said character with big tits = offensive and sexist". K...

If people are being alienated then the business will react. Stop all restrictions and let the people decide. It is called choice, give the power to the people.

Zachary Amaranth:
We don't need to get rid of booth babes to make women more comfortable. The complaints aren't that they exist, but the way they are employed and the fashion in which they dress.

Care to elaborate on your first point because I'm not sure they're mutually exclusive as you're making it sound?
Sure you can have them dress in a different way but they're just female representatives of gaming companies and may as well be a pretty lady holding a clipboard in a turtle neck sweater.

Zachary Amaranth:
Regardless, being told to put clothes on or move locations is not dehumanising them. It's a reflection of the terrible choices made by the employers, as they're the ones setting the mandate. And honestly, these women were hired to be T&A and surrendered a good chunk of their autonomy in doing so. The superficial argument Jim makes is that there's even no evidence that they don't like it. Well, if it's safe to assume they're okay with it, they have no right to complain that they're being asked to cover up in a private expo.

Either way, pick a side: free will or "just following orders." You cannot have it both ways.

He didn't regard the moving of them or asking them to point clothes on as dehumanising but embarrassing for them, he likened that to the way people speak about them as if we have a right to choose if they like their chosen job or not.
In a way it's no different to how people think of strippers or porn stars because of the fact they exist "they're damaging the status quo of women", yet a lot of porn actresses and strippers like their jobs.

The way people talk about booth babes is that we know whats best for them and that they're incapable of making their own decisions as a grown adult, obviously a woman can't like wearing skimpy clothes, being surrounded by virgin males in a room for a few days.
That is the dehumanizing part.

I mean, Whats the difference?

Captcha:

Jimothy Sterling:
stuff

You should also take a look at the link, just in case the whole Jimquisition thing doesn't work out for you there buddy.
I'd totally throw stacks at you.

japlandweirdling:
Booth Boys? Bro's?

Why not? Last time I was in Vegas, many of the hotels (Luxor, Caesars Palace, Excalibur, Imperal Palace) had buff, half nekkid male eye candy at prominent locations. Sprinkle some "Booth Bros" in a convention, and I'm sure many of the people complaining about the exploitation of women wouldn't half much ammunition.

Good job Jim about pointng out the employment factor. It's something I would never have thought of.

That's a good point, did anyone bother to actually ask the actually booth babes whether or not they had a problem with what they were doing or the whole idea in general? You know, instead of talking about them as you would the Michelangelo's David?

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