Escapist Podcast: 067: Disney Acquires Lucasfilms

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067: Disney Acquires Lucasfilms

This week, well let's face it there's no getting away from this topic.

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Canuck here.

Sprinkles.

Pop.

Goddamnit!
Now I want oreos!
... And I JUST got back from the store ...

Curse you Susan!! You will rue the day you made me crave Oreos!
*Shakes fist*

Black Licorice - nasty

Sambuca - Amazing

black jelly beans/jube jubes - Amazing

I seem to like everything that tastes like black licorice except black licorice.

... I'm gonna get some sambuca now.

Chocolate covered espresso beans are also amazing.

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I'll disagree with Susan that the feeling of 'time slowing down' is unachievable to anyone but a select few. Flow can be attained by most people but it's just really hard to do. A similar situation is when an artist gets into a mindset where their body seems to melt away and they create their art almost effortlessly.

In case anyone is interested with the subject, this is a good starting point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_%28psychology%29

Interesting section:

Gaming

Flow is one of the fundamental reasons that people play video games. This is especially true since the primary goal of games is to create entertainment through intrinsic motivation. The use of flow in games helps foster an enjoyable experience which increases motivation and draws players to continue playing. Game designers, in particular, benefit from integration of flow principles into game design. Games facilitate flow as either an individual or group activity.

Flow in games has been linked to the Laws of Learning as part of the explanation for why learning games (the use of games to introduce material, improve understanding, or increase retention) have the potential to be effective. In particular, flow is intrinsically motivating, which is part of the Law of Readiness. The condition of feedback, required for flow, is associated with the feedback aspects of the Law of Exercise. The positive emotions associated with flow are associated with the Law of Effect. The intense experiences of being in a state of flow are directly associated with the Law of Intensity.

- What is it you guys were saying as the alternative for sprinkles? "Jimmies"? Never even heard of them.

- The directors of both Empire and Return of the Jedi are in no condition to do any directing, unfortunately. Ive heard a lot of people saying Joss Whedon (with the Marvel Studios connection), but while I love his stuff I dont think his style would be a good fit. Brad Bird could be interesting.

I absolutely agree with the idea of staying away from all the Jedi stuff. Its possible that they might actually go that way - theres precedent, with the 1313 game in production at the moment, so obviously someone involved with Star Wars wants to see some more gritty non-jedi-focused stuff.

- Am I the only one that connected Justin's daughter's sticky hands and the licking thing with the earlier talk that his wife has a huge sweet tooth? Have you considered that there was no need for any hand cleaning at all, and it was just an excuse? :P "Oh, all that chocolate... yeah... somebody will have to clean that off... into their mouth..."

Caffiene:
- What is it you guys were saying as the alternative for sprinkles? "Jimmies"? Never even heard of them.

- The directors of both Empire and Return of the Jedi are in no condition to do any directing, unfortunately. Ive heard a lot of people saying Joss Whedon (with the Marvel Studios connection), but while I love his stuff I dont think his style would be a good fit. Brad Bird could be interesting.

I absolutely agree with the idea of staying away from all the Jedi stuff. Its possible that they might actually go that way - theres precedent, with the 1313 game in production at the moment, so obviously someone involved with Star Wars wants to see some more gritty non-jedi-focused stuff.

- Am I the only one that connected Justin's daughter's sticky hands and the licking thing with the earlier talk that his wife has a huge sweet tooth? Have you considered that there was no need for any hand cleaning at all, and it was just an excuse? :P "Oh, all that chocolate... yeah... somebody will have to clean that off... into their mouth..."

I'm really wondering if jimmies is a Pennsylvania thing. Perhaps it was a local brand at one point? Now I must know...

When you first mentioned "Jimmies" I thought you were talking about that meme with the gorilla. We call them sprinkles in colorado.

Cookie packaging- Don't you people own cookie jars?


I used to eat the center of the reeces cup, but for some reason the chocolate seems to be softer now, I wonder if they changed anything. Or maybe it's GLOBAL WARMING! :

ROTJ & Generations- I'm sorry, but I like things too.

...On the subject of ROTJ, I heard Leia was only made to be Luke's sister because of they wanted another big shocker like they did in Empire.

On vegetables losing nutrients by cooking. Some of the nutrients can't be digested without breaking down the cell walls with heat and salt. Pretty sure Alton Brown said that on an episode of good eats.

Susan Arendt:

Caffiene:
- What is it you guys were saying as the alternative for sprinkles? "Jimmies"? Never even heard of them.

- The directors of both Empire and Return of the Jedi are in no condition to do any directing, unfortunately. Ive heard a lot of people saying Joss Whedon (with the Marvel Studios connection), but while I love his stuff I dont think his style would be a good fit. Brad Bird could be interesting.

I absolutely agree with the idea of staying away from all the Jedi stuff. Its possible that they might actually go that way - theres precedent, with the 1313 game in production at the moment, so obviously someone involved with Star Wars wants to see some more gritty non-jedi-focused stuff.

- Am I the only one that connected Justin's daughter's sticky hands and the licking thing with the earlier talk that his wife has a huge sweet tooth? Have you considered that there was no need for any hand cleaning at all, and it was just an excuse? :P "Oh, all that chocolate... yeah... somebody will have to clean that off... into their mouth..."

I'm really wondering if jimmies is a Pennsylvania thing. Perhaps it was a local brand at one point? Now I must know...

I have heard them called jimmies before now, and I am from the Midwest.

Susan Arendt:

Caffiene:
- What is it you guys were saying as the alternative for sprinkles? "Jimmies"? Never even heard of them.

- The directors of both Empire and Return of the Jedi are in no condition to do any directing, unfortunately. Ive heard a lot of people saying Joss Whedon (with the Marvel Studios connection), but while I love his stuff I dont think his style would be a good fit. Brad Bird could be interesting.

I absolutely agree with the idea of staying away from all the Jedi stuff. Its possible that they might actually go that way - theres precedent, with the 1313 game in production at the moment, so obviously someone involved with Star Wars wants to see some more gritty non-jedi-focused stuff.

- Am I the only one that connected Justin's daughter's sticky hands and the licking thing with the earlier talk that his wife has a huge sweet tooth? Have you considered that there was no need for any hand cleaning at all, and it was just an excuse? :P "Oh, all that chocolate... yeah... somebody will have to clean that off... into their mouth..."

I'm really wondering if jimmies is a Pennsylvania thing. Perhaps it was a local brand at one point? Now I must know...

According to the wiki, it's a mystery!

Names

The origin of the name "jimmies" is unknown. It is first documented in 1930, as a topping for cake and although this may in fact be an error, the term "jimmies" became a popular name for sprinkles.

Though the Just Born Candy Company claims to have invented jimmies and named them after an employee, this is unlikely. The rumor that the name somehow refers to Jim Crow is also likely false.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmies

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Susan Arendt:

Caffiene:
- What is it you guys were saying as the alternative for sprinkles? "Jimmies"? Never even heard of them.

- The directors of both Empire and Return of the Jedi are in no condition to do any directing, unfortunately. Ive heard a lot of people saying Joss Whedon (with the Marvel Studios connection), but while I love his stuff I dont think his style would be a good fit. Brad Bird could be interesting.

I absolutely agree with the idea of staying away from all the Jedi stuff. Its possible that they might actually go that way - theres precedent, with the 1313 game in production at the moment, so obviously someone involved with Star Wars wants to see some more gritty non-jedi-focused stuff.

- Am I the only one that connected Justin's daughter's sticky hands and the licking thing with the earlier talk that his wife has a huge sweet tooth? Have you considered that there was no need for any hand cleaning at all, and it was just an excuse? :P "Oh, all that chocolate... yeah... somebody will have to clean that off... into their mouth..."

I'm really wondering if jimmies is a Pennsylvania thing. Perhaps it was a local brand at one point? Now I must know...

No. I have heard "people" call them jimmies before. (I put people in "" because they were cartoon characters.)

My guess is that sprinkles is just the more popular name for them.
But jimmies is more fun to say.

Also, I know it's a bit late, but

Susan Arendt:
I'm really wondering if jimmies is a Pennsylvania thing. Perhaps it was a local brand at one point? Now I must know...

I wouldnt worry about it too much, Im one of those crazy Aussies :P We dont have Soda or Pop, either.

I also saw your tweet about 100s & 1000s. Thats another common name here in Aus except its generally applied mostly to only the mixed rainbow coloured ones, and the most common version of 100s and 1000s are actually tiny ball shaped bits instead of little bars (like... tiny. What youd get if you took sprinkles/jimmies and cut them up so that they were only as long as they are wide)

Susan Arendt:

Caffiene:
- What is it you guys were saying as the alternative for sprinkles? "Jimmies"? Never even heard of them.

- The directors of both Empire and Return of the Jedi are in no condition to do any directing, unfortunately. Ive heard a lot of people saying Joss Whedon (with the Marvel Studios connection), but while I love his stuff I dont think his style would be a good fit. Brad Bird could be interesting.

I absolutely agree with the idea of staying away from all the Jedi stuff. Its possible that they might actually go that way - theres precedent, with the 1313 game in production at the moment, so obviously someone involved with Star Wars wants to see some more gritty non-jedi-focused stuff.

- Am I the only one that connected Justin's daughter's sticky hands and the licking thing with the earlier talk that his wife has a huge sweet tooth? Have you considered that there was no need for any hand cleaning at all, and it was just an excuse? :P "Oh, all that chocolate... yeah... somebody will have to clean that off... into their mouth..."

I'm really wondering if jimmies is a Pennsylvania thing. Perhaps it was a local brand at one point? Now I must know...

http://www.snopes.com/language/offense/jimmies.asp seemed interesting, although doesn't really reach any conclusions on the matter.

I'm impressed you don't say 'wooder', though, Susan--was that something you consciously changed, or were you just not a true Philadelphian in your (mis)pronunciation? Also, while "water ice" makes no sense, "italian ice" still sounds too weird for me to ever voluntarily use.

bravetoaster:

Susan Arendt:

Caffiene:
- What is it you guys were saying as the alternative for sprinkles? "Jimmies"? Never even heard of them.

- The directors of both Empire and Return of the Jedi are in no condition to do any directing, unfortunately. Ive heard a lot of people saying Joss Whedon (with the Marvel Studios connection), but while I love his stuff I dont think his style would be a good fit. Brad Bird could be interesting.

I absolutely agree with the idea of staying away from all the Jedi stuff. Its possible that they might actually go that way - theres precedent, with the 1313 game in production at the moment, so obviously someone involved with Star Wars wants to see some more gritty non-jedi-focused stuff.

- Am I the only one that connected Justin's daughter's sticky hands and the licking thing with the earlier talk that his wife has a huge sweet tooth? Have you considered that there was no need for any hand cleaning at all, and it was just an excuse? :P "Oh, all that chocolate... yeah... somebody will have to clean that off... into their mouth..."

I'm really wondering if jimmies is a Pennsylvania thing. Perhaps it was a local brand at one point? Now I must know...

http://www.snopes.com/language/offense/jimmies.asp seemed interesting, although doesn't really reach any conclusions on the matter.

I'm impressed you don't say 'wooder', though, Susan--was that something you consciously changed, or were you just not a true Philadelphian in your (mis)pronunciation? Also, while "water ice" makes no sense, "italian ice" still sounds too weird for me to ever voluntarily use.

Ah, no, you must be from further in towards Philly proper to say "wooder." That's also where you get "iggle" (the football team) and "beggle" (the breakfast pastry.)

My one comment: Star Wars is not Sci-Fi. And Jedi are totally super heroes.

I have been wanting to see a blaster jedi....well, blaster force user. The classic conflict of sword vs gun is that a skilled swordsman may be able to beat an unskilled gunman, but a skilled gunman will just wreck any swordsman. Kenobi describes a blaster as crude and random, but what about a really nice blaster with a skilled, force-wielding user. In the offhand, the character could have a smaller lightsaber that is purely for defense. Maybe dual wield blasters that have really small lightsaber bayonets, though that thought seems kind of silly. Point being, force wielder athletics and mobility, but with a blaster(s). With some manner of defense when someone gets a bit to close with their own lightsaber, a quick parry can all you need. But major point being to not let them get that close.

Questionable fanfic ideas aside........lets see the epic of Yoda in his prime. Though of course, making sure to conveniently continue to hide the name of his race. Someone starts to say it and a large ship thunders by. At least as far as I know it's still a purposely unknown name.

Also, I just noticed that corgy gif thumbnail, that is great.

Ok, so! It would seem that "jimmies" is a Northeastern US thing. "Sprinkles" seems to be the term pretty much everywhere else, though "hundreds and thousands" is common in the UK.

was actually opening a large package of sweet tarts left over from the Halloween stash. when the word sweet tart was said. Sugar free is vial shit.

you do realize that at 16 minutes it is no longer a sound test, and is just content, right?

Sussan I should not need instructions to eat candy.

Sussan Stop the hate on George/Special edition. it is his thing.

Anikan died the day that he became Darth Vader

the large thing that happened after Return of the Jedi was the whole thing with the Vonge, but if you think that Medicloriens were bad then the Vonge with regard to the force will make you the angriest geek on the face of the planet.


this is presuming that they do not interject a different post RTJ timeline, but realistically like Bob said here, and here there is literally nothing that could make the Star Wars Fan base at large happy (granted in the second one he wasn't directly talking about Star Wars, but it really isn't that much of a leap) the prequils happened, they are part of the cannon, they shall forever be part of the original cannon, and by complaining about the fact that they exist you are doing nothing more then acting childish.

maybe the Escapist should start a Tumbler for animal pics. Thoughts?

Over here in the UK, those things you have sprinkled on cakes and similar are called Hundreds & Thousands.
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We have them on icecreams as well.

Ohai Gaiz!

So far the Xbox was worth it. It turns out that you can have as much fun riffing on a bad video game as you can a bad movie (PUNCH HIM AGAIN LIGHTNING PUNCH HIM AGAIN), but I've got a nice list of things to buy on Amazon, and it is SO nice to be able to watch Netflix on the damn TV. Once I get used to the whole Trigger-Analog Stick thing (NO SHEPARD POINT THE MANTIS AT THE GETH NOT THE FLOOR) everything will be hunky dory.

That said, I will be keeping my PC Master Race card, thanks, I'm just playing less until I can afford to replace my nuclear-powered laptop (after undergrad *sob*).

EDIT: On Star Wars and the Death Star Trench Run, I think it's worth noting that in the EU novels there are explicit instances (and even established procedures, with the StealthX) of Jedi using the Force to actively steer munitions into targets. I also think that it can convincingly be argued that Luke is actively adjusting the flight path of the proton torpedo - the device's homing hardware, presumably deactivated, has a set margin of error, which is why the other computer-assisted shot(s) failed to strike, like the X-Com example. The torpedo can be seen here arcing into the exhaust port, implying that there is some kind of guidance at work; since the targeting computer is off I assume that this would mean the torpedoes were fired blind and that Luke is directly manipulating their mutual flight path.

...With all of that said, due to the nature of Force use (letting go and trusting your inner feelings etc) I could argue that the act of steering the torpedoes in and of itself is not an entirely conscious decision - it can be construed as the kind of semi-conscious enhanced perception state that Susan is talking about. So, the two ideas are not mutually exclusive.

Also, the Timothy Zahn Thrawn trilogy is incredible, everybody who loves Star Wars should read it.

...augh, my horribly misused childhood has reared its ugly head, I haven't written anything like that since I was fifteen. O_O

gardian06:
was actually opening a large package of sweet tarts left over from the Halloween stash. when the word sweet tart was said. Sugar free is vial shit.

you do realize that at 16 minutes it is no longer a sound test, and is just content, right?

Sussan I should not need instructions to eat candy.

Sussan Stop the hate on George/Special edition. it is his thing.

Anikan died the day that he became Darth Vader

the large thing that happened after Return of the Jedi was the whole thing with the Vonge, but if you think that Medicloriens were bad then the Vonge with regard to the force will make you the angriest geek on the face of the planet.


this is presuming that they do not interject a different post RTJ timeline, but realistically like Bob said here, and here there is literally nothing that could make the Star Wars Fan base at large happy (granted in the second one he wasn't directly talking about Star Wars, but it really isn't that much of a leap) the prequils happened, they are part of the cannon, they shall forever be part of the original cannon, and by complaining about the fact that they exist you are doing nothing more then acting childish.

maybe the Escapist should start a Tumbler for animal pics. Thoughts?

I don't have a problem with the existence of the Special Edition, even if I don't personally like it. What I have issue with is Lucas' snub of those of us who prefer the original. If he wants to make a second version that's more like what he originally envisioned, I get it, but he should let us have the other one if we prefer it.

Always a pleasure hearing you talk about the philosophy of food;D

On the idea of sudsidising the next gen of consoles, phone plan style... Not too sure about that, seeing as consoles are already pretty heavily subsidised for their first year or two. Then again it might pose a possible solution to the damage the used games trade does to their Loss Leader sales model.

Susan Arendt:
What I have issue with is Lucas' snub of those of us who prefer the original.

Yeah, I don't like the revisionist approach he's taken with prior versions of the original trilogy.

Vie:
Over here in the UK, those things you have sprinkled on cakes and similar are called Hundreds & Thousands.
image
We have them on icecreams as well.

that looks so good... and why is that not in the US? I am going to figure out how to get one, or modify something into being.

gardian06:
you do realize that at 16 minutes it is no longer a sound test, and is just content, right?

I totally called it to. "oreos huh, well this will be a good sound check"

Susan Arendt:

gardian06:
...snip...
Sussan Stop the hate on George/Special edition. it is his thing.

Anikan died the day that he became Darth Vader

the large thing that happened after Return of the Jedi was the whole thing with the Vonge, but if you think that Medicloriens were bad then the Vonge with regard to the force will make you the angriest geek on the face of the planet.


this is presuming that they do not interject a different post RTJ timeline, but realistically like Bob said here, and here there is literally nothing that could make the Star Wars Fan base at large happy (granted in the second one he wasn't directly talking about Star Wars, but it really isn't that much of a leap) the prequils happened, they are part of the cannon, they shall forever be part of the original cannon, and by complaining about the fact that they exist you are doing nothing more then acting childish.

...snip

I don't have a problem with the existence of the Special Edition, even if I don't personally like it. What I have issue with is Lucas' snub of those of us who prefer the original. If he wants to make a second version that's more like what he originally envisioned, I get it, but he should let us have the other one if we prefer it.

but isn't that just the thing that by what your calling "Lucas' snub" is actually just an "artist" doing with their work as they will. If da Vinci before he died changed the Mona Lisa we would be forced to accept it. granted that in some sections the changes are pretty noticeable, and overall questionable, but it is still his work, and the greatest amount of venom, and hate comes from those that don't see it as an artistic thing that is not always stagnant, but as a piece of property that they [the fan] control. that is what I raise issue with is not the arguments that "the movie is crappy" (episode 1-3), or "this change doesn't work" (special edition episode 4-6), but with "How dare Lucas make a change to My beloved Star Wars". Which is at least what I originally perceived as going on, but I can after hearing again see some merit, but it does still feel kinda like the words "X changed my ______ it still works, but it's different, and now I can't get it back"

Off Topic: I just realized that the whole "fall back" thing (setting clocks back an hour for something to do with daylight savings time) is tomorrow will The Escapist also be effected by this for the purpose of putting up content?

Susan... Wedge could totally make that shot.

Maybe not in his rookie days, but during his Rogue Squadron days, there's no doubt.

TheDrunkNinja:
Susan... Wedge could totally make that shot.

Maybe not in his rookie days, but during his Rogue Squadron days, there's no doubt.

Yes. Even extended canon aside, he's the only pilot that survived both Death Star runs (Luke, Han and such are all off doing other things the second time around), which includes flying through the second one. Wedge is probably the most talented non-force-user pilot in that era.

Good Podcast Escapists!

But, after 29 posts in, I'm surprised no one picked up on Susan's Folly.

Brad Bird directed Mission Impossible 4: Ghost Protocol NOT Mission Impossible 3 which J. J. Abrams directed.

gardian06:

Susan Arendt:

gardian06:
...snip...
Sussan Stop the hate on George/Special edition. it is his thing.

Anikan died the day that he became Darth Vader

the large thing that happened after Return of the Jedi was the whole thing with the Vonge, but if you think that Medicloriens were bad then the Vonge with regard to the force will make you the angriest geek on the face of the planet.


this is presuming that they do not interject a different post RTJ timeline, but realistically like Bob said here, and here there is literally nothing that could make the Star Wars Fan base at large happy (granted in the second one he wasn't directly talking about Star Wars, but it really isn't that much of a leap) the prequils happened, they are part of the cannon, they shall forever be part of the original cannon, and by complaining about the fact that they exist you are doing nothing more then acting childish.

...snip

I don't have a problem with the existence of the Special Edition, even if I don't personally like it. What I have issue with is Lucas' snub of those of us who prefer the original. If he wants to make a second version that's more like what he originally envisioned, I get it, but he should let us have the other one if we prefer it.

but isn't that just the thing that by what your calling "Lucas' snub" is actually just an "artist" doing with their work as they will. If da Vinci before he died changed the Mona Lisa we would be forced to accept it. granted that in some sections the changes are pretty noticeable, and overall questionable, but it is still his work, and the greatest amount of venom, and hate comes from those that don't see it as an artistic thing that is not always stagnant, but as a piece of property that they [the fan] control. that is what I raise issue with is not the arguments that "the movie is crappy" (episode 1-3), or "this change doesn't work" (special edition episode 4-6), but with "How dare Lucas make a change to My beloved Star Wars". Which is at least what I originally perceived as going on, but I can after hearing again see some merit, but it does still feel kinda like the words "X changed my ______ it still works, but it's different, and now I can't get it back"

Off Topic: I just realized that the whole "fall back" thing (setting clocks back an hour for something to do with daylight savings time) is tomorrow will The Escapist also be effected by this for the purpose of putting up content?

I look at it from a slightly different view. I don't consider the original Star Wars to be George Lucas's alone, many people were making key decisions to make that movie what it was. For Lucas alone to come back and override the collaborative decisions made in the initial movie is an insult to all the other key people that worked on it.

I'm indifferent to eps 1-3.

-Dragmire-:

I look at it from a slightly different view. I don't consider the original Star Wars to be George Lucas's alone, many people were making key decisions to make that movie what it was. For Lucas alone to come back and override the collaborative decisions made in the initial movie is an insult to all the other key people that worked on it.

I'm indifferent to eps 1-3.

As a matter of fact, it is important to note that Empire and Return were actually directed by Irvin Kershner and Richard Marquand respectively. Even further, Lucas was much less present on set for Empire than he was Return (to quote Marquand, "It is rather like trying to direct King Lear - with Shakespeare in the next room!"). Kershner is undoubtedly the stronger director (that man has cred) but Lucas made a LOT of changes to the Return script and optimized it for a happy ending with the intent of selling toys, and you can tell - Empire is a much stronger film.

Trench run:

Think back to the scene on the Falcon where Luke is trying to defend himself from the remote with the blast shield down on his helmet. Obi-Wan tells him that a Jedi can feel the force flowing through him and they have the conversation about how it can be used to increase ones ability.

"Luke: You mean it controls your actions?"

"Obi-Wan: Partially, but it also obeys your commands."

Long and short: Luke used the force to augment his natural ability to allow him to make the shot, hence why he turned off his targeting computer.

Migs:
Good Podcast Escapists!

But, after 29 posts in, I'm surprised no one picked up on Susan's Folly.

Brad Bird directed Mission Impossible 4: Ghost Protocol NOT Mission Impossible 3 which J. J. Abrams directed.

Wait...which one is in Dubai? That one, that's the Brad Bird one. Quite good, too.

That would be Mission Impossible 4: Ghost Protocol, Madam Susan.

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