The Big Picture: That's No Moon

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Yeah, it is pretty damn impressive how they can keep stuff like this secret for so ever long, makes me think about this penny arcade comic:

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/05/23

SupahGamuh:
Well, I can only imagine that, just like Marvel with Disney, pretty much nothing will change (besides the hypotetical chibbi Star Wars stuff on Disney Channels, but the Lego Star Wars shorts of CN are already terrible, so yeah) and in fact, things will get a bit better this time around.

Squeenix?, where's our Star Wars cameo in Kingdom Hearts?.

We could summon Yoda, have an amalgamation of Luke Obi-Wan and Han Solo, and Palpatine as one of the evil bosses hahahaha

Ashoten:
Anyway this also means we will get new Star Tours or possibly an entire revamp of the future Land as SW land. That is worth being excited about.

Star Tours was just redone not too long ago, so I don't see anything changing on it again anytime soon. Making Tomorrowland Star Wars themed would be...meh. The Carousel of Progress wouldn't fit in anymore, which would suck because the whole section is based on it's theme of progress and innovation on Earth, not what happened long ago in a galaxy far away. They could move the carousel to Epcot, then turn Tomorrowland into Star Wars land, but then there'd be a lot of angry Buzz Lightyear and Stitch fans. Although Disney does own enough land to double the size of Disney World, so there is potential for a full Star Wars park in the somewhat-distant future.

Electromagnet:

Soviet Heavy:

Anyway this also means we will get new Star Tours or possibly an entire revamp of the future Land as SW land. That is worth being excited about.

Star Tours was just redone not too long ago, so I don't see anything changing on it again anytime soon. Making Tomorrowland Star Wars themed would be...meh. The Carousel of Progress wouldn't fit in anymore, which would suck because the whole section is based on it's theme of progress and innovation on Earth, not what happened long ago in a galaxy far away. They could move the carousel to Epcot, then turn Tomorrowland into Star Wars land, but then there'd be a lot of angry Buzz Lightyear and Stitch fans. Although Disney does own enough land to double the size of Disney World, so there is potential for a full Star Wars park in the somewhat-distant future.

I think you quoted the wrong person, or you messed up some editing. I was just bragging about having the original 1994 rerelease tapes, not Star Tours.

Soviet Heavy:

Electromagnet:

Soviet Heavy:

Anyway this also means we will get new Star Tours or possibly an entire revamp of the future Land as SW land. That is worth being excited about.

Star Tours was just redone not too long ago, so I don't see anything changing on it again anytime soon. Making Tomorrowland Star Wars themed would be...meh. The Carousel of Progress wouldn't fit in anymore, which would suck because the whole section is based on it's theme of progress and innovation on Earth, not what happened long ago in a galaxy far away. They could move the carousel to Epcot, then turn Tomorrowland into Star Wars land, but then there'd be a lot of angry Buzz Lightyear and Stitch fans. Although Disney does own enough land to double the size of Disney World, so there is potential for a full Star Wars park in the somewhat-distant future.

I think you quoted the wrong person, or you messed up some editing. I was just bragging about having the original 1994 rerelease tapes, not Star Tours.

Huh, that was weird. Fixed now though.

Eh, I have no real issue with Disney buying Lucasarts... other than concerns about how the next movie(s) is going to turn out. Then again, they probably mean to market it more to kids than the... other fanbase...

I just really...really...REALLY hope that rumor about Darth Vader coming back for Episode VII is a load of bullshit.

"Turns out he was a clone! They've been cloning Vaders since Vader became Vader! Only the most recent clone of him was destroyed. Also: only one clone can exist at a time."

That's Lucas-style writing...hopefully Disney knows better than to emulate it.

Milanezi:

SupahGamuh:
Squeenix?, where's our Star Wars cameo in Kingdom Hearts?.

We could summon Yoda, have an amalgamation of Luke Obi-Wan and Han Solo, and Palpatine as one of the evil bosses hahahaha

Picture this for the next KH handheld plot:

Kairi, tired of her irrelevence to the story, goes off with Squirrel Girl on their own side adventure to save the Ewoks from corrupt loan shark Ultros. Along the way, they take down Duuku, Defeat Dr. Doom, and trick Galactus into destroying the Death Star. In the mean time, Jack Sparrow and Deadpool team up on a quest to find more booze.

Re: the Expanded Universe being garbage, didn't the Thrawn trilogy sell pretty well and wasn't it well regarded? "The Secret History of Star Wars" credits it with rekindling interest in the Star Wars franchise in the 90s (don't know how reliable that book is though). On the other hand this led to the prequels, so.. Anyway, adapting the Thrawn trilogy seems like a possibility since the story has been proven to work once and it's neatly divided into three parts. But I hope they will go with a completely new story and blow us away.

Well, just to bring in that other space franchise Star Trek, after Star Trek: The (lack of) Motion Picture kind of tanked, Paramount moved Gene Rodenbery upstairs to an executive producer role and we got the, IMO, best Star Trek movie when Wrath of Khan came out.

It's that thought that has rekindled that little spark deep in my soul that I thought was snuffed out after Phantom (lack of, ok i'll stop doing this joke now) Menace.

Here's hoping the Force is strong with Disney.

As long as I get my unedited original trilogy on disc, everything else will be just gravey

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Bob: Hate to disagree with you, but the EU books did have a rigorous process of what could and could not be written in the later years after the Zahn Thrawn Trilogy and Duology and M.A. Stackpole/Aaron Allston's Rogue Squadron series that ultimately was decided and semi-directed by Lucasarts and sometimes Lucas himself. I spoke with quite a few writers who've been part of the EU and they said it was hard writing within the confines of Lucasarts' view of Star Wars Canon because a lot of their ideas would be edited out from higher ups.
Of course Disney has every right to throw that stuff to the wind and piss off the fanbase of that era or they can go in a different direction and we can just have a divide like the Star Trek/JJ Abrams Trek universe fanbase.
It'll happen, no one will care and Disney will print money.

With this next movie, I really hope that it follows Rogue Squadron or they create a new set of characters and do something cool. I would really dislike if they got new actors for the main characters and just made stuff up ( JJ Abrams...) as that may be cool or artistic or some other thing that I don't care about, but I don't like remakes.

At least the Gummi sjip levels in Kingdom Hearts will make damn sense now.

wow i can't believe it but bob actually made me feel a bit more optimistic about the future of the franchise, and i sincerely hope that they completely ignore the expanded universe as 99% of it is the most awful kind of fan fic.

thanks bob maybe disney will do a better job than lucas, granted its pretty easy to do but still.

One thing that should be pointed out, as Bob mentioned that Disney didn't spend all that money for the small user base that is the EU property, with Bioware's Old Republic setting the user base is even smaller. Going by sales figures, from what I could dig up it's something like 2 million Old Republic sales vs a combined 15 million for the EU trilogy immediately following Star Wars, that featured Grand Admiral Thrawn as the villain whom anyone who read these books all know and love.

Meh, so now Disney is going to be milking the franchise instead of Lucas. I'm sure they will make some competent films but that's about it. For me, the magic is gone and Star Wars is done. It was played out with Return of the Jedi and then irreparably damaged by the prequels and crappy merchandise and tie-ins; nothing short of a miracle is going to bring that back.

What I would like to see is something new, instead of all of these retreads of existing material.

cyvaris:
Disney internal security is horrifying. They have MIB who just pop up out of no where in the parks and escort you out if you are causing trouble. This escort also takes you UNDER the park. Its creepy.

At least according to one of my Professors who likes to tell the story about the time he went to "Disney Prison".

its all true. I got to have my own "escort" through those tunnels for actidently punching goofy.....not my proudest moment but the guy snuck up on me. Thankfully they beleaved me that its was all just reflex and let me go after that.

I hope they completely disregard the EU books. The spiderweb of Star Wars continuity is a mess, only slightly more accessible than comic book superhero continuity from my perspective. If Disney needs to color in between those lines, episode VII will be a mess.

Avengers disregarded comic book continuity, and it was awesome. Hopefully Disney realizes this and gives Star Wars the same treatment. Set it a generation or two after VI, bring back the old actors in cameo roles, and tell us the fresh story of the power vacuum left in the wake of the Emperor's death and how the Rebellion deals with that.

The Thrawn Trilogy & Hand of Thrawn duology series is NOT manufactured Fan-Fiction, it was some of the most compelling sci-fi novels (and I read ALOT of them) I've ever read, and Timothy Zahn is an AMAZE-BALLs author.

Captcha: Cheese Smuggling Ring

Lot of good jokes in this one. Being a history BA, who specialized in African American history, I actually laughed aloud at the joke about Disney's, let's call it a foray, into "The Songs of the South".

Milanezi:
WOW WOW Wooooow... EVERYONE HELP ME OUT...

So, Bob kinda stated that the expanded universe is canon but "not really"... Look it doesn't make any sense, I READ that there's (or was) a kind of OFFICIAL council (recognized by lucas) in which "experts" went through the released books to state if they were canon or not. Shit George Lucas directly ordered certain directives, such as "which major character might get killed or not",

. Same thing with the Darth Plagueis book, he prohibted any book on Darth Sidious' origins to be released until he himself gave a say so.

I do agree the expanded universe is sorta messed up in places, look at characters like Asajj Ventress, what's her official story???...

Yeah, pretty much. Parts of the EU are more important than Bob implied, though it is funny that he used an image of Splinter of the Mind's Eye in reference to it. That particular book is about as 'uncanon' as it gets when it comes to Star Wars EU, considering in it...

...and that it also kind of reads like a weird Luke/Leia ship-fic (it was written in 1978, before even Episode V came out).

On another note, my reaction to the whole thing was pretty much the same as Bob: Disney took good care of Marvel, so there's no reason they won't do the same to Lucasfilm

"Hey guys! Avengers was the greatest goddamn movie of all time, and they were under Disney, so Episode VII must be good!"

Bob actually made me feel excited about this whole deal and the idea of new movies being separate from the EU. After I read some synopses of the EU events I just felt depressed. They beat the Empire and then its just a century of the galaxy being a very shit place to be with a new crisis every year or so. Kinda sucks to think about. At least a new trilogy wouldn't be so saturated as the EU.

simmeh:

Yeah, pretty much. Parts of the EU are more important than Bob implied, though it is funny that he used an image of Splinter of the Mind's Eye in reference to it. That particular book is about as 'uncanon' as it gets when it comes to Star Wars EU, considering in it...

...and that it also kind of reads like a weird Luke/Leia ship-fic (it was written in 1978, before even Episode V came out).

Except that, if you look up the book on Wikipedia or elsewhere, it's actually listed as "C-canon" which, by the rules of Star Wars canon, makes it just as much a part of the continuity as the Thrawn books. That's what I meant in my previous post about the continuity being such a mess: Almost everything done with Star Wars printed on the cover is considered canon. Even Splinter of the Mind's Eye, which was meant as a low-budget sequel to the original film if it hadn't been the blockbuster that it was.

I trust Disney, they made The Lion King. the Best animated film in the ever. James Cameron shut up. They have make the movies that people hail as the best animated movies for decades. If they can uses that talent and imagination on a new Starwars film, I don't mind what they do.

Grenge Di Origin:
"Hey guys! Avengers was the greatest goddamn movie of all time, and they were under Disney, so Episode VII must be good!"

"Hey guys! I have a built-in cynicism towards Disney for an as-yet unspecified reason, and Disney is Disney, so Episode VII must be bad!"

You see, it works both ways =P

Honestly, I think too many people have been all doom and gloom over this. Let's be honest here, after the prequels and the new Indiana Jones movie, do you really view being in the hands of Disney worse than being in the hands of Lucas? The man has seriously lost his marbles at this point. I'm still waiting for him to announce a reboot to American Grafitti or something completely idiotic.

Scarim Coral:
The whole secret things can't stay as secret for long, really? If that's the case wouldn't we have leak info on Half Life Episode 3 by now (I'm pretty sure Valve employees are tight lip about that game).

Anyway, the only time I would start to doubt or be against the whole thing is once we actually seen development of the upcoming film.

That's because Valve has been too busy trolling us with the HL:Ep3 t-shirts last year, or the /v/ interview revealing Ricochet 2 is actually going to be a thing, or that Source 2.0 is finally coming.(for 'next gen' consoles -_-)

I hate star wars... so much...

I for one am ecstatic that Lucas will no longer be involved with the SW Universe. They can't do worse than what Lucas has done in the last 15 or so years. And even after what Bob said, there is still way more likelihood of them acknowledging at least some EU content as part of the official SW Brand than there ever was with Lucas in charge. I won't hold my breath, but I'll be a little less surprised about it.

Edit: Maybe Karen Traviss will come back and finish her Commando series. Awesome series that was never finished because of Lucas. And one of the best Star Wars authors around. She is doing some Halo books, but I don't have the same attachment to them.

I really wish they'd make a movie based on the Thrawn Trilogy, it was the only Star Wars EU I read but it was REALLY good!

Dear Bob,

Thank you. You said the one thing I've been saying since this was announced. Disney made the Marvel films. At their worst, they were still watchable and entertaining. I'm not a comic reader, and I loved them. And the Avengers felt like the comic book movie we've been waiting for. Simply because that film existed The Dark Knight Rises lost a lot for me, as I kept comparing the two. And if anything, I am a Batman fan (years of quality Batman shows) and only knew of the Avengers.

So, thank you, Bob. Finally someone else said what I was thinking. Disney could very well make these films worth watching. Especially if they place them in the hands of people who WANT to make these films as they are fans of the source material. I'm not saying Episode VII will be a masterpiece, but it may well be entertaining.

Also, Holy crap. This was a year in development and no one talked? I did not know that. I suppose Disney has some just plain evil nondisclosure agreements. I'm not sure what to make of that. Kinda cool, I suppose.

Sincerely,
Saltyk

rofltehcat:
Hm... yeah, Star Wars is guaranteed to earn you some money.

Tell that to Bioware and EA...

Damn this could be good if they make a new willow movie

Pallindromemordnillap:

Grenge Di Origin:
"Hey guys! Avengers was the greatest goddamn movie of all time, and they were under Disney, so Episode VII must be good!"

"Hey guys! I have a built-in cynicism towards Disney for an as-yet unspecified reason, and Disney is Disney, so Episode VII must be bad!"

You see, it works both ways =P

Yeah, well, I'm also the only person who didn't like "Disney's The Muppets". Glorified fan-fiction.

The Avengers? Really, how WAS that anything special?

As for Star Wars, it's going to follow a rigid formula, you can bet your ass on it. Now, I've always said that Pixar tends to be formulaic as well, but they have an extremely high concentration of creating and thoughtful people that make up in heart what they tend to lack in originality.

Do I think lightning will strike twice, as far as brands go? Nope. Pixar has the freedom to create what they want without having to fall into some sort of canon to please anyone. Established characters? Disney will rob them of what made them so great in the first place.

So, color ME cynical. But then again, check the username.

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