Jimquisition: Fake Nerd Girls

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Fake Nerd Girls

The latest flavor in the restaurant of controversy is the concept of the fake nerd girl -- women who pretend to like videogames and similar media, all for the express purpose of tricking honest, hard-working Americans.

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The only issue I can think off is these people is they do exist are likely to be the same kind of people who 10 years ago would have bullied someone for liking games so I can see the problem there.

I've never understood this shit. "Waaah! That girl in the pikachu suit can't name all 6 million and 5 pokemon! This wounds me deeply for reasons."

Stop wasting my air.

I rarely agree this much with him. Seriously, why would anyone get upset over a person being so desperate for your attention that she pretends to like what you do just to get attention? It seems like a strange thing to get upset over, but I don't know.

I think I need to watch the first half again. I got distracted by that frankly baffling game footage with the chunky people running through walls...

Hmm, although Jim s calling them out and ridiculing their outrage (those gamer who feel offended by fake-gaming-girls); I truly don't see the point. It is a non-issue coming from a non-entity causing no repercussions.

Repeating Jim's comments: is this a thing, Internet? Really?

This 'Fake Nerd Girl' thing is insane and frankly only worth laughing at. Think about it, why would ANYONE pretend to be a nerd to get the attention of the sort of prat who would call them out on it for whatever badly thought out reason they have?

I think the problem that Jim didn't talk about was exploitation.
Rather than simply being angry because they perceived these girls as wanting attention, I think the bigger issue that many people were irritated about was the ones that are doing it solely to drain as much money as possible from geek culture.
Unlike what I agree is the comparatively harmless desire for male attention based on outlandish outfits inspired by video games and comic books, this would seem to me and others to be an entirely different ballgame, and more deserving of at least a mention in this episode.

isn't this just an extention of the booth babe thing?

you know, girls dressing up to pretend to like a game they're promoting.

otherwise, I got nothin'.

I guess the only reasonable feeling would be disappointment, as you think there's somebody who shares interests with you, and then it turns out they're sort of putting it on. Again this is assuming they exist. I mean I claim to like American Football but if I occasionally get mixed up with certain players or retarded phrases they use to describe elements of the game it doesn't mean I'm lying. Surely its just more likely that the interest in nerd culture may be a bit exaggerated rather than simply false.

Also, WHAT DID SHE SAY!!!????

Triaed:

Repeating Jim's comments: is this a thing, Internet? Really?

Yes, I would like to get that question answered too. Is this something you see done a lot? Because I certainly haven't.

OT, even if it was a thing, like Jim said, what of it? It's not hurting anyone, at least not now, nor is it enforcing any stereotypes, except of those of alone angry gamers who don't like social interaction with other gender.

congrats to Megan and Jared

assuming she said yes lol

I'm not sure where's all this dumb idea comes from... Really, Jim, where did you find this "Fake Nerd Girls" thing?

I've known several girls who were into videogames, including one who was really into Mortal Kombat games, Armageddon in particular.
That said, I wouldn't dare to judge how pretty they were. Tastes differ. Well, they were all slim, but so am I, and I look like arse.
Overall, this week's subject is kinda dumb and childish.

When gamers wonder why we're not taken seriously? Why we're still held at a distance by the mainstream media?

Things like this.

I want to hear Megan and Jared's story! :O

Disagree here, pandering CAN be insulting on it's own.

Like when I'm whatching an anime and the heroine is obviously put together as a male wish fulfillment character, being quirky, and in love with the fat miserable nerd protagonist, etc. It doesn't hurt anyone, but it's kind of insulting my intelligence.

I'm not sure either if a ort of IRL equivalent to that really exists somewhere, with girls trying to invoke something like this, and you obviously shouldn't be stereotyping gamer girls in general ('cause that's just mysoginistic), or obsess over who is and isn't a true nerd ('cause that's just sad), but i see that there MIGHT be occasional blatant cases that feel insultingly manipulative.

You should be more worried about whether she'll fake an orgasm than if she'll fake interest in video games.

Entitled:

I'm not sure either if it really exists IRL, and you obviously shouldn't be stereotyping gamer girls in general ('cause that's just mysoginistic), and obsess over who is and isn't a true nerd ('cause that's just sad), but there MIGHT be occasional blatant cases that feel insultingly manipulative.

Even in this case, most of the manipulation is being put together by men, not the women you're seeing in front of you. It's a predominantly suited, rich, male few who run the industry, as I said at the end, and if you should be mad at anybody for being patronized, it ought to be them.

Look who's pulling the strings if you're sick of being treated like a puppet.

Um, can someone please tell me what is the name of that game with big burly men running through walls?

There's one side to this argument I do get: Somehow it is suddenly socially acceptable - judging by the tons of "I'm so nerdy!" facebook statuses even admirable - to be a nerd. This does definitely feel like it's devaluing the effort it takes to survive as a nerd, say, in high school.
It's a ridiculous argument, of course. We should be grateful that people aren't being bullied about this anymore, but I sure do get the drift. And, to come back to the "Fake Nerd Girl" part about it: Of course the first assumption of "this person is only doing it for the show" comes when it's about girls. This simply used to be a male-dominated culture.

TLDR: It's ridiculous, unreasonable and nothing we should really waste time on - and, really, discussing it would probably cause more harm than good - but I get where it comes from.

Its usually more to do with the fact that said "fake gamer girls"
behave like the cast of the Big Bang Theory, due to that shows popularity; most gamers find that show stereotypical(and sometimes outright offensive), so when said female fans of the show pretend to be one of us, they are very likely to act as annoying as the show; to add to their "nerd authenticity" they try to cite lore/talk about a game, and their attempts to do so are cringe-worthy and sometimes annoying.

Or, rather to use an analogy,

It's like a person pretends to be a movie soak when they've only ever seen Twilight and Transformers.

Also, this is the internet, it always blows shit out of proportion.

EDIT: the only time I've experienced anything close to this was when a guy in my science class tried to act like Sheldon Cooper every lesson, whilst sitting next to me.

God, was that annoying(proves to show that it can happen with both Genders(and is also not limited to attractive women,but that's a story for another time))

Yellowfish:
Um, can someone please tell me what is the name of that game with big burly men running through walls?

Muscle March.

Daveman:
I guess the only reasonable feeling would be disappointment, as you think there's somebody who shares interests with you, and then it turns out they're sort of putting it on. Again this is assuming they exist. I mean I claim to like American Football but if I occasionally get mixed up with certain players or retarded phrases they use to describe elements of the game it doesn't mean I'm lying. Surely its just more likely that the interest in nerd culture may be a bit exaggerated rather than simply false.

That, too.

There are lots of people who keep making basic Star Wars references, or watching summer blockbuster superhero movies, and call themselves nerds on that account, but it is more likely that they got used to a definition of the word that is genuinely different from the definition of someone who lives on the Internet, than that they constantly say themselves "Today I will pretend to be a nerd just for shits and giggles."

Tradjus:
I think the problem that Jim didn't talk about was exploitation.
Rather than simply being angry because they perceived these girls as wanting attention, I think the bigger issue that many people were irritated about was the ones that are doing it solely to drain as much money as possible from geek culture.
Unlike what I agree is the comparatively harmless desire for male attention based on outlandish outfits inspired by video games and comic books, this would seem to me and others to be an entirely different ballgame, and more deserving of at least a mention in this episode.

What???? People really think this is an issue????? Seriously?????

Sports guys, car guys and porn guys have been dealing with this for damned decades. Sex sells, live with it. This is just a sign of how mainstream games have become. If you are so gullible that something simply having breasts attached to the item causes you to no longer be able to rationally purchase a product, I don't think that problem with the company who is using hot chicks to market their wares.

Jim, this has been going on for a while. this is not a complaint, but more surprise, as you usually have your finger on the pulse of current events. There's been a meme, a counter meme, a counter counter meme, and a counter counter counter counter meme.

Now, I'm not exactly pissing myself over the "Fake Nerd Girls" thing, but there isone element that bigs me a little: I resent being patronised. And I belive you, Mr Sterling, have expressed similar feelings in the past. Now, that doesn't mean these girls exist or exist in large numbers, so I'm not losing sleep, but I find the concept itself to be kind of irritating just because of that. I don't like being patronised here or anywhere else. I don't like lowest common denominator pandering or the concept that I can be dragged around by my penis.

And that's where this all seemed to start. A couple years ago, this was all about how Hollywood and the gaming industry were both trying to lure us with fake geeks in a shameless attempt to grab money. Megan Fox came up frequently. Is she a fake nerd? I don't know. She's a shite actress and that's enough for me not to care. She lacks sufficient personality to play a blender, so no amount of nerd cred means anything to me.

Now, that's probably the grain of truth this ball of crap has wrapped itself around, but still.

Also, I do sort of resent the notion that we can only associate with our own. This doesn't so much affect a woman cosplaying at some con, but again goes to the notion of corporate condescension. Like we can't possibly relate to ZOMG A WIMMINZ without her being so dorky she has an opinion on whether Han or Greedo shot first. Or unless she's a 2-D sex toy, but that's another story.

However, with this tirade over, I still will say my Rosaries: Thank God for Jim.

Now, I'm rather annoyed by pretenders in general because I dislike disingenuous, but I've never actually judged someone immediately. I usually wait until they start talking and betray a lack of actual knowledge of the subject matter they pretend to be interested in before calling them out. But in all honest, I've never actually met a "fake gamer girl." Met a few fake nerds (boys and girls both on that), but never a fake gamer. I've met a few people who say they'd like to be gamers, but can't figure games out (which doesn't surprise me, because there aren't really that many good games out there that are good for teaching non-gamers how to get into hardcore games anymore, versus the 8 and 16-bit era, where every game was a good introduction to gaming), but that's usually as far as it goes.

Now, there's a subject to discuss. Anybody notice how a lot of hardcore games are really hard to get into if you haven't been a gamer all your life. Games today are built so much around the assumption that you already have the basic skills acquired from a lifetime of playing the simpler games of the earlier eras that they're impenetrable for a new audience.

Triaed:

Repeating Jim's comments: is this a thing, Internet? Really?

That was my thought as well.

I have no idea why someone would complain about such things.

Tradjus:
I think the problem that Jim didn't talk about was exploitation.
Rather than simply being angry because they perceived these girls as wanting attention, I think the bigger issue that many people were irritated about was the ones that are doing it solely to drain as much money as possible from geek culture.
Unlike what I agree is the comparatively harmless desire for male attention based on outlandish outfits inspired by video games and comic books, this would seem to me and others to be an entirely different ballgame, and more deserving of at least a mention in this episode.

Wait, how does that work?

Jimothy Sterling:

Entitled:

I'm not sure either if it really exists IRL, and you obviously shouldn't be stereotyping gamer girls in general ('cause that's just mysoginistic), and obsess over who is and isn't a true nerd ('cause that's just sad), but there MIGHT be occasional blatant cases that feel insultingly manipulative.

Even in this case, most of the manipulation is being put together by men, not the women you're seeing in front of you. It's a predominantly suited, rich, male few who run the industry, as I said at the end, and if you should be mad at anybody for being patronized, it ought to be them.

Look who's pulling the strings if you're sick of being treated like a puppet.

Yes, and likely that is what many of the complainers already mean, when they comment that "Lol, that ad just pulled a Fake Nerd Girl", or "that actress is just played up for Fake Nerd Girl appeal".

But your video just covered the worst possible conclusions of why one might use the phrase, while associating them with everyone else as well. That the very idea is inherently stupid, and everyone should feel bad about themselves for considering to bring it up.

Shaming everyone who might use a phrase or discuss a trend, rather than the people who misuse it.

Yellowfish:
Um, can someone please tell me what is the name of that game with big burly men running through walls?

I was going to ask the same thing. Actually looks pretty fun XD

Well done Jim, though this situation was a lot worse a few months ago... at least in this community anyway.

The idea that some guys could be so arrogant as to assume that a woman only shows an interest in video games because they desperately want to... somenottosviolatingword a nerd is what get me.

Also that they think this is a bad thing. "Ew, icky girls want to touch me!"

I don't really have a problem with fake game girls, my issue lately has been these 3DS commercials that go along the lines of "I'm blerhblah and I'm not a gamer, but with my 3DS I'm a blibbitybler" ect. Would be interested to hear Jim's thoughts on that one

Fake Gamer Girl? Never really noticed an issue with such thing, the closest thing I can think of is the hipster with fake glasses that go like "Lol I'm such a nerd!" on facebook. I wanna slap them in the back of the head and go "No, you're not".

That is the closest I can get to hating fake nerd girls..

I think people get annoyed by cynical media, I don't like alot of internet personalities, both male and female, because I don't think their informed enough to give noteworthy opinions.

The problem with attractive women having success with it, is that geeks/gamers have to look at the people they consider their community and realise that they're just a bunch of horny idiots like everyone else (probably moreso).

I never noticed that this thing is as big as Jim claims. He really must have had very little inspiration this time.

Still, if someone is a fake, calling him or her out for it is justified. It's also fun.

This is not something exclusive to gamers. Posers are never popular, whether it's music, politics, anything really.
This is also not about the booth babes who are obvious advertisement. Similar thing as with tv commercials, which only have actors.

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