Fake Geek Girls

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FelixG:

Geo Da Sponge:

FelixG:

Are you seriously unaware that the point of a web comic is to get page views?

And I am pointing out that this is the second item this week that has gone on about fake gamer girls on this website.

You're right! It soumds like some sort of conspiracy...

*Gets double tapped from behind by Grey. Dressed as Tomoe Mami.*

Nothing to see here people. Move along.

Conspiracy you say...?

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(Wonder how many people will get that joke)

CITIZEN! Allowing mutant communist fake gamer girls to infiltrate Alpha Convention is treason! Acknowledging, or worse yet enjoying, your base biological instincts is treason! Please report to your local termination booth as soon as possible. Have a nice daycycle.

Nerdiness is mandatory.

But Mami should be using an elegant musket. Preferably 20 of them. She has to be fake.

I wonder if has ever occurred to those idiots that some people who cosplay are costume geeks, not anime/sci-fi/whatever geeks. That they choose a specific character to cosplay as because they like the like of the costume or the challenge of creating an accurate representation of it. That doesn't make them any less of a geek than someone who knows the entire spider-man canon.

Nice comic, someone needs to show the truth about those fake nerd girls! They are trying to conquer the world... One video game convention at a time! :p

On a more serious note, I might even understand that some people might try to exploit the sex appeal of women in order to attract a bigger audience, but how often does that happen and what harm does that make? I mean I doubt it's more than eye candy, and (unless someone is really crazy) people won't think "sexy woman=I need to buy stuff" or "sexy woman=All women are easy" (because that's the only two arguments I hear about these kind of things... Together with "I am offended", which strikes me as even more absurd, either if you are a prude or if you "don't like that they think all men are the same"... It seems you are way over-sensitive to me).

Hooray for the Madoka Magica reference! That's the best anime I've seen in years.

Yes, it was Ben Reilly, though it took me a minute to remember his last name. And yes I did know the answer before I saw how to properly spell "Reilly" in Grey's comment.

I haven't read comics in years.

Gods, I'm such a nerd.

Cory Rydell:

We occasionally try and tell jokes too.

It may be possible that Grey saw the Jimquisition episode, thought of something funny, pitched the idea to me, I liked it, then we made a comic about it.

Don't you know that Escapists love conspiracies? Ssssshhhhh, you'll spoil their fun explaining that there's no grand plot involving selling out to advertisers, etc, but instead the normal off-the-cuff idea that they would use without a moment's thought.

Mike Fang:
M'kay, scanned the article that was linked to in the dialogue underneath the comic. I think both Harris and Faraci have legit points...and both where they're acting like idiots. First, Harris; it is true, some of these ladies are just looking for attention because they like toying with people. Women like that are bitches because they're treating the men in a given fan community in a way very similar, if not identical, to the way some men treat women as nothing more than meat; both are using the opposite gender to get what they want with no concern for other people's feelings.

However, as Faraci points out, Harris goes so bonkers at points he overlooks the fact that anybody in costume at a convention is looking for attention. It's not fair to just blame the women who go there for it, the guys do it too. Maybe not for the exact same reasons, but it's still an attempt at getting people to stare. The question is whether or not the woman doing it would be appreciative of the people giving her that attention, or if she would just kick any attention-giver to the curb if he tried to get to know her better after she'd had her fun.

But while Faraci correctly points out that just because an attractive woman cosplays or shows up at a convention without a lot of knowledge of comics, movies, etc. the convention's about doesn't immediately mean they're doing something reprehensible, he THEN goes on to do something stupid; he talks about how nerds will overlook the "real" girl nerds and only talk to the attractive women that are "out of their league". Okay, the stupidity here is twofold. First, it insinuates that no "real" girl nerds can be physically attractive; nice job reinforcing the stereotype there. Saying that paints the picture of the nerd girl as always having to be plain looking or downright unattractive.

Second, by supporting the notion that person A can be out of person' B's league based solely on physical appearance, he also perpetuates the very shallowness he just tried to speak against. The concept of people being in leagues based on physical attractiveness utterly negates the idea that things like personality, shared interests, intellect, and the like are more important than looks. It's a concept that suggests no matter how much two people may have in common or may find appealing in one another, as long as one of them is better looking (by the majority-accepted definition of attractiveness) than the other, there can never be anything romantic between them.

If I could, I'd make this the be first thing everyone sees when starting up their PC/console. Make them read it before going on to doing the kinds of things that get you put on fatuglyorslutty.com.

None of their costumes are Spider-Man related so why would they even know the answer?:P

Cory Rydell:

FelixG:

88chaz88:

Also are you seriously accusing Grey of pointing out this issue solely for the attention?

Are you seriously unaware that the point of a web comic is to get page views?

And I am pointing out that this is the second item this week that has gone on about fake gamer girls on this website.

We occasionally try and tell jokes too.

It may be possible that Grey saw the Jimquisition episode, thought of something funny, pitched the idea to me, I liked it, then we made a comic about it.

For what it's worth, I think this was a good idea too.
>_> But I have been up for the last 24 hours, so I could see the end of Desert Bus.

Now that security check was unfair. Most REAL Spider-fans would rather pretend the Clone Saga didn't happen. Asking a trick question like that was just cruel to those ladies.

felbot:
meme

Don't make me go all Inigo Montoya on your ass!

To avoid a Low Content Post here's a picture of a baby tortoise.

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Pandora92:
And what happens if someone starts to wonder where the security guy at the door vanished to? Sometimes I really wish Mami wouldn't get so ahead of herself.

I laughed.

Captain Pancake:
Ben Reilly.

That is the most correct answer as Ben was the only intact clone. You could have also, just to spite everyone else in the world, use Kane.

I don't live in the US, so is this Fake nerd girl really a thing? I mean, in the same week we had this topic here, on Jimquisition and on SMBC. Are we really that concerned that attractive women are interested in games and etc? Or is this more related with the booth babes kind of thing?

Grey Carter:
Fake Geek Girls

How it Works

There's absolutely no way this can go wrong, just like Jim's comment section is a lovely field of flowers and rainbows, right?

Also, a little birdie informed the internet that you enjoy "PonPonPon". I'm currently trying to think of a way to slip it into one of your comics/news articles and have it be relevant, if my avatar isn't counted.

Er. Getting back on topic. I hope Phase 2 involves getting those darn "cooties" all over nerdy things, as we all know cooties taint everything they touch.

I like the Clone saga more than house of M and anything Marvel U..... still love all the 2099 stuff to death tho ^0^

I've seen only two things about Fake Geek Girls and both are on this website.

Though seriously, girls want to dress up as video game/anime characters to appeal to nerds... and people are complaining? The world has gone mad! It's like complaining about cheerleaders not knowing anything about football.

DVS BSTrD:
Sure but can you name all the characters the girls are cosplaying as?

I can't. I can only recognize Catwoman. And I only know that because of the Arkham games. Yeah, I've never read a Batman comic. Or any comic. At all. Ever. Because I don't care. But I enjoy the games, movie, and the 90's Batman cartoon. And not just Batman, but other cartoons, games, and movies based on the characters.

And apparently I'm assumed to just "know" all this stuff. Lol, it's so easy to fool you guys. Hell, it's WAY easier for me, a guy, to fake all this, since nobody questions you if you are a guy! It's pretty great.

And I'm not the only one, oh no-no-no. There's lots of us. We are everywhere. On your forums, at your cons. We are in every part of every fandom, and you don't suspect a thing.

And yes, I referenced the Joker. Without ever reading a Batman comic. All I know about him is from that cartoon.

Sleep tight.

There's rather an alarming amount of people who are replying:

"Duh we've been over this"(paraphrased of course)

Which is ironic since the inability of people to just laugh at the comic, or just ignore it and not post a comment, is pretty clear evidence that we are not over this.

Come on guys, yes something that was an issue before is an issue again, it isn't amazing to figure out a pattern and it isn't absurd that two people on a website might want to use it as material.

[EDIT] Due to me being an idiot, most of this post is rescinded because I didn't look through it properly the first time.

Mike Fang:
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Very levelheaded and rational summary, I applaud your efforts to try and drill some reason into the comments section.

DVS BSTrD:
Sure but can you name all the characters the girls are cosplaying as?

Kopikatsu:

The one on the left is Mai Shiranui, and the one on the right is Catwoman.

I know who the one in the middle is, I just can't remember her name...but she's so familiar...dammit!

Mami Tomoe from Puella Magi Madoka Magica. I knew her and Catwoman but couldn't remember Mai's name. All I was thinking was "Damn, she's from King of Fighters! You'll never guess it!"

KeikakuKat:
Hooray for the Madoka Magica reference! That's the best anime I've seen in years.

Indeed. I watched it recently, and am completely blown away by how much I loved it.

Sanguine:
There's rather an alarming amount of people who are replying:

"Duh we've been over this"(paraphrased of course)

Which is ironic since the inability of people to just laugh at the comic, or just ignore it and not post a comment, is pretty clear evidence that we are not over this.

Saying "We have been over this" does not mean "We are over this", it means "This topic has been discussed so many times it does not need discussing again."

I am not saying that I agree or disagree with the people saying it, but your response doesn't really make much sense.

Legion:

Sanguine:
There's rather an alarming amount of people who are replying:

"Duh we've been over this"(paraphrased of course)

Which is ironic since the inability of people to just laugh at the comic, or just ignore it and not post a comment, is pretty clear evidence that we are not over this.

Saying "We have been over this" does not mean "We are over this", it means "This topic has been discussed so many times it does not need discussing again."

I am not saying that I agree or disagree with the people saying it, but your response doesn't really make much sense.

You are quite right it doesn't necessitate it, but the implication typically trying to be brought across is that it requires no more going over as you've said. My point is both that if it does require no more going over, adding to the debate and saying that it needs no more going over is nonsensical, since others clearly feel the need to and it is then a difference of opinion rather than argument.

Though I'm slightly curious about how exactly the two ending quotes that you make come out with different conclusions, surely it "having already been discussed" and it "not needing discussing" are essentially similar, as the implication of "it has already been discussed" is that it requires no further discussion. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm simply curious as to whether you have a differing opinion.

But quite right pointing out my nonsensical statement, thank you.

Cory Rydell:

FelixG:

Jokes?! The internet is Srs business sir!

Though I should point out that I never said it wasn't funny, nor that I didn't enjoy it. I was commenting on the escapist as a whole as well, not your comic in particular.

And to be fair I wouldn't have been able to answer the guys question either :P

Heh, I wouldn't have been able to either... I wasnt trying to insinuate anything though. Sometimes, it just seems like I ponder less about the subject matter of our jokes than the readers do.

I mostly just want you guys to notice when I sneak cats into the comic (I failed on this strip...)

That's a common thing though Cory, I mean honestly I doubt George Lucas would have predicted an entire religion in THIS world would spring up from the Star Wars movies.

Consumers always put more thought into the products and media they consume than those who make them, especially now as people are assuming everything has hidden meanings. I do it myself, we try to find something else beneath the surface even in the most bizzarre places. I guarantee if you were to be with myself and my friends any given night that we are together we're arguing about the bigger moral meaning of Tyler Durden creating a male split personality that cares more about women than he does, or the eventual karmatic concequences of the Jedi having copied their lightsabers off of old Rakkatan Technology that was so deeply based in the Dark Side that use of one could end up killing it's weilder.

Hell, I've spent hours arguing with people online and in person about the weight of Leto Atredies II's "golden path" and whether or not it actually helped.

Most of that is essentially pointless when you consider that Star Wars was originally intended as a sort of sci-fi soap opera, being all about the people and less about the larger universe it takes place in, that Fight Club was a man writting a book to tell people to not be sheep and essentially nothing else, and that Dune was actually more about the domineering human spirit rather than anything akin to despotic dictatorships versus peaceful republics.

We love the media we consume however, and thus we look for more meaning than it may actually be intended to have.

Sanguine:

Though I'm slightly curious about how exactly the two ending quotes that you make come out with different conclusions, surely it "having already been discussed" and it "not needing discussing" are essentially similar, as the implication of "it has already been discussed" is that it requires no further discussion. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm simply curious as to whether you have a differing opinion.

The difference really would be that some people are just the kind who will point out that something has been discussed before. The same kind of people who tell people to use the search bar (on a side-note, this seems a lot rarer than it used to). They just like doing it for whatever reason.

The second one would be people who are just tired of topics that have been discussed into the ground being brought up again when they were seemingly over.

Admittedly the first part is somewhat irrelevant and didn't really add to the point I was making.

Mike Fang:
M'kay, scanned the article that was linked to in the dialogue underneath the comic. I think both Harris and Faraci have legit points...and both where they're acting like idiots. First, Harris; it is true, some of these ladies are just looking for attention because they like toying with people. Women like that are bitches because they're treating the men in a given fan community in a way very similar, if not identical, to the way some men treat women as nothing more than meat; both are using the opposite gender to get what they want with no concern for other people's feelings.

However, as Faraci points out, Harris goes so bonkers at points he overlooks the fact that anybody in costume at a convention is looking for attention. It's not fair to just blame the women who go there for it, the guys do it too. Maybe not for the exact same reasons, but it's still an attempt at getting people to stare. The question is whether or not the woman doing it would be appreciative of the people giving her that attention, or if she would just kick any attention-giver to the curb if he tried to get to know her better after she'd had her fun.

But while Faraci correctly points out that just because an attractive woman cosplays or shows up at a convention without a lot of knowledge of comics, movies, etc. the convention's about doesn't immediately mean they're doing something reprehensible, he THEN goes on to do something stupid; he talks about how nerds will overlook the "real" girl nerds and only talk to the attractive women that are "out of their league". Okay, the stupidity here is twofold. First, it insinuates that no "real" girl nerds can be physically attractive; nice job reinforcing the stereotype there. Saying that paints the picture of the nerd girl as always having to be plain looking or downright unattractive.

Second, by supporting the notion that person A can be out of person' B's league based solely on physical appearance, he also perpetuates the very shallowness he just tried to speak against. The concept of people being in leagues based on physical attractiveness utterly negates the idea that things like personality, shared interests, intellect, and the like are more important than looks. It's a concept that suggests no matter how much two people may have in common or may find appealing in one another, as long as one of them is better looking (by the majority-accepted definition of attractiveness) than the other, there can never be anything romantic between them.

You all need to pay attention to this post. It's another example of journalists and general commenters talking about an issue they pretend to be above when they're clearly not.

Legion:
The difference really would be that some people are just the kind who will point out that something has been discussed before. The same kind of people who tell people to use the search bar (on a side-note, this seems a lot rarer than it used to). They just like doing it for whatever reason.

The second one would be people who are just tired of topics that have been discussed into the ground being brought up again when they were seemingly over.

Admittedly the first part is somewhat irrelevant and didn't really add to the point I was making.

Good point. It would be unfair to lump these two categories into one malicious category, especially when they lack the malice that I'm ascribing to them. I take what I said back, thank you for clarification.

Mike Fang:
M'kay, scanned the article that was linked to in the dialogue underneath the comic. I think both Harris and Faraci have legit points...and both where they're acting like idiots. First, Harris; it is true, some of these ladies are just looking for attention because they like toying with people. Women like that are bitches because they're treating the men in a given fan community in a way very similar, if not identical, to the way some men treat women as nothing more than meat; both are using the opposite gender to get what they want with no concern for other people's feelings.

It's a pity that your first paragraph is batshit insane, because you actually make a few half decent points in the rest of your post.

Do you really believe there is a cabal of women (or worse... wymmyn!) out there who deliberately go to conventions to torment and seduce pure innocent male geeks, contaminate their precious bodily fluids and steal their virginity to fuel their soulless undead feminazi existences?

Andrew_C:
It's a pity that your first paragraph is batshit insane, because you actually make a few half decent points in the rest of your post. Do you really believe there is a cabal of women (or worse... wymmyn!) out there who deliberately go to conventions to torment and seduce rure innocent male geeks, contaminte their precious bidily fuilds and steal their virginity to fuel their soulless undead feminazi existences.

It that what he was implying? Because it seems to me that what he was implying was that some women dress up in particular costumes/ways for attentions sake. Which seems like a reasonable conclusion, especially because he goes on in the next paragraph to say that this is irrelevant because men do it as well.

Please don't be so brash with the hyperbole, we can understand the attempt at humour from the first example.

Any lady willing to dress like Mai Shiranui has infinite respect from me, that is not an outfit one can wear without confidence lol.

Winterknell:

Mike Fang:
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You all need to pay attention to this post. It's another example of journalists and general commenters talking about an issue they pretend to be above when they're clearly not.

Care to elaborate as to exactly where?

The Artificially Prolonged:
Funny comic as usual guys.

But...er gender issues again Escapist? We don't need more pointless arguments on that. Of course if the recent Jimquisition episode is anything to go by there is likely going to be one here soon.

Of course there's going to be pointless arguments. Why? Because the pointless misogyny in gamer and nerd culture hasn't been shot in the forehead yet.

The pointless discussions will stop when the screaming assholes learn to shut their mouths at cons and on Xbox Live/Steam.

Bhaalspawn:

The Artificially Prolonged:
Funny comic as usual guys.

But...er gender issues again Escapist? We don't need more pointless arguments on that. Of course if the recent Jimquisition episode is anything to go by there is likely going to be one here soon.

Of course there's going to be pointless arguments. Why? Because the pointless misogyny in gamer and nerd culture hasn't been shot in the forehead yet.

The pointless discussions will stop when the screaming assholes learn to shut their mouths at cons and on Xbox Live/Steam.

If the discussions are trying to stop the pointless misogyny, that would seemingly imply that they aren't pointless. They might be useless, or ineffective, but they have a definite point.

So, it appears that Critical Miss and Jimquisition are taking on the same problem this week.

Um... was this even a problem before this week? Seriously, I had NEVER, EVER heard of nerds bitching about fake nerd girls until a heard Jim ranting about said bitching. Having everyone blow their lids at the same time like this about a seemingly nonexistant problem is kind of surreal...

The sad part is I never read spiderman and I know the answer to that question you can blame atop the fourth wall for that.

bigfatcarp93:
So, it appears that Critical Miss and Jimquisition are taking on the same problem this week.

Um... was this even a problem before this week? Seriously, I had NEVER, EVER heard of nerds bitching about fake nerd girls until a heard Jim ranting about said bitching. Having everyone blow their lids at the same time like this about a seemingly nonexistant problem is kind of surreal...

Basically some tool made a post about fake geek girls a little while back, some other tools (almost certainly the same kind of people we block when we game due to all the childish, abusive crap) and it has been blown way out of proportion.

I am not sure what exactly caused it to be dragged back up again though.

It's one of those mountains out of molehills things. There are misogynistic arseholes in geek culture, of course. But considering all of the millions of geeks in the world, they are hardly anything more than a very vocal minority.

The same way all of the crazy femi-nazi's and the people who use the "It's called the White House" line when saying Obama shouldn't be President are not seen as a "Problem with feminism/Americans."

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