Zero Punctuation: Call of Duty: Black Ops 2

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I gotta say, I'm disappointed with this one. I thought the Warfighter review got all his ethical problems with Spunkgargleweewee out of his system. I'm fine with his opinions on this matter, but he's supposed to be reviewing the game for what it is on gameplay and story; in this case the actual review feels like an afterthought to his soapboxing.

If this is what he's going to do by default from now on, it's going to get really old, really fast.

Ultratwinkie:

Brad Shepard:
Welp, looks like im done with Yatzee, and btw, it is racist when people make fun of whites for the sake of there white, they are making fun of them for there race, thus its racist.

wow. Just wow.

So much butthurt over what Yahtzee said. Wow.

Whites don't have it as bad in terms of racism.

What do whites get that others don't get 10x over?

Small dick jokes? Asians hear them all the time.

White jokes? Everyone has jokes about their race.

Affirmative action? Whites already have that, its called normal life. Only difference is that affirmative action is trying to change statistics of minorities being poorer and less fortunate. That's it.

White privilege is like male privilege, just because you don't recognize it doesn't mean it isn't a real thing.

Oh you are one of "Those" people huh? Please, for the sake of everyone, get over yourself, male privilege? White privilege? Come the hell on. and there is no butthurt here, im just sick of all this differentiation that everyone is trying to do right now, this CIS gender shit, thin privilege, all that bullshit is retarded as shit.

Brad Shepard:

Ultratwinkie:

Brad Shepard:
Welp, looks like im done with Yatzee, and btw, it is racist when people make fun of whites for the sake of there white, they are making fun of them for there race, thus its racist.

wow. Just wow.

So much butthurt over what Yahtzee said. Wow.

Whites don't have it as bad in terms of racism.

What do whites get that others don't get 10x over?

Small dick jokes? Asians hear them all the time.

White jokes? Everyone has jokes about their race.

Affirmative action? Whites already have that, its called normal life. Only difference is that affirmative action is trying to change statistics of minorities being poorer and less fortunate. That's it.

White privilege is like male privilege, just because you don't recognize it doesn't mean it isn't a real thing.

Oh you are one of "Those" people huh? Please, for the sake of everyone, get over yourself, male privilege? White privilege? Come the hell on. and there is no butthurt here, im just sick of all this differentiation that everyone is trying to do right now, this CIS gender shit, thin privilege, all that bullshit is retarded as shit.

differentiation?

The entire point of this is to close racial and gender gaps. Gaps people don't normally think about unless presented to them. Ignoring issues do not solve them. Only way minds can be changed is with exposure. The very reason we progress as a species, by exposure. Shying away is running away from a problem.

Saying we should ignore it is like ignoring your house being on fire. Only said by people who don't want to deal with real issues or acknowledge they exist unless they effect them personally.

Ultratwinkie:

Brad Shepard:

Ultratwinkie:

wow. Just wow.

So much butthurt over what Yahtzee said. Wow.

Whites don't have it as bad in terms of racism.

What do whites get that others don't get 10x over?

Small dick jokes? Asians hear them all the time.

White jokes? Everyone has jokes about their race.

Affirmative action? Whites already have that, its called normal life. Only difference is that affirmative action is trying to change statistics of minorities being poorer and less fortunate. That's it.

White privilege is like male privilege, just because you don't recognize it doesn't mean it isn't a real thing.

Oh you are one of "Those" people huh? Please, for the sake of everyone, get over yourself, male privilege? White privilege? Come the hell on. and there is no butthurt here, im just sick of all this differentiation that everyone is trying to do right now, this CIS gender shit, thin privilege, all that bullshit is retarded as shit.

differentiation?

The entire point of this is to close racial and gender gaps. Gaps people don't normally think about unless presented to them. Ignoring issues do not solve them. Only way minds can be changed is with exposure. The very reason we progress as a species, by exposure. Shying away is running away from a problem.

Saying we should ignore it is like ignoring your house being on fire. Only said by people who don't want to deal with real issues or acknowledge they exist unless they effect them personally.

seeing how often you have posted in this tread, its clear that you will not take a point that does not agree with your own, you just want to argue, well, i wont give you that satisfaction, dont bother replying, you are blocked.

Honestly, this whole thread has made me severely uncomfortable with all the seething going on.

For a little bit, I think I'm going to feel uncomfortable being a non-white escapist member. There's just... a lot of anger here.

Well... I'll admit something: I liked Blops 1. At least in Blops 1 it turns out that all the antagonists seem stupidly evil because you were brainwashed to think they were. And not in that meta way that America brainwashes it citizens; I mean your character was actually brainwashed to hate every pore on the enemy's stupid face. And their little dog too. About in the middle of a battle I started getting the impression that everyone else was having a slightly different experience than the one you were having. I was able to enjoy that disconnect despite all of the frenetic spunkgargleweewee.

So I was thinking that I might like the Blops 2 campaign but I guess not. Doesn't matter, the vast majority of spunkgargleweewee fanatics enjoy this game for the multiplayer. I'm pretty sure less than 50% of them have even looked at the start screen for the campaign. That's why they give the option to load the game at the multiplayer screen.

In answer to your question, Yahtzee: yes it probably was, but it is founded on the existing practice of naming a certain class of naval ship (Destroyers, iirc) after presidents, i.e. USS Abraham Lincoln. Naming of the ship the "Barack Obama" implies that sometime in the future, his presidency rose to historical significance. In addition, certain conflicts must have escalated dramatically to warrant construction of additional heavy naval vessels (at least 6 more, as I recall... and can't be assed to look it up).

It is both an homage to, and a joke at the expense of Barack Obama, sort of like Star Trek made fun of 70's culture.
...except Star Trek did it on purpose.

Ultratwinkie:

Rikortez:
Remember guys, check your white privilege at least twice a day. And if any minority insults or is racist towards you, its your own fault for being a privileged white male cis.

Seriously, i was very disappointed Yahtzee, never expect this kind of thing coming from you.

Unless whites are rounded up and stuck in a concentration camp like Hispanics are in some western red states, its not true racism on the scale other races face.

White jokes? Everyone has race jokes.

Whites don't have people like Joe Arpaio chasing them, infringing on their rights, and sent to a camp in the desert. Where there is very little food, water, and the women are sexually assaulted and and don't even have tampons. Forced to sleep in their own menstrual blood stained sheets. Yet the Department of Justice does nothing.

They let it happen. So any time a white man says they are having a hard time with reverse racism, remember this:

At least you're not in an American concentration camp in 2012.

Dude if you're going to use hyperbole like concentration camp you damn well better source it.

Also Arpaio doesn't have special whites only prisons with better care, they're shit whatever your race is.

Edit: I see you gave someone else a source. I thought they needed to kill them to be a concentration camp, but hey if Arpaio thinks they are ... he's just a jerk.

It's funny how people assume that white people are still actively keeping minorities down.

Believe me, most minorities, especially blacks, oppress each other far more effectively than white people ever did.

Al-Bundy-da-G:
You know what screw this shit. I'm tired of Cod and BF getting shit on by Yahtzee everytime one comes out, so I'll say this "fuck serious sam" . I picked up SS3 during the steam sale and you want to know what's freaking boring and uninteresting? Walking through a deserted town for ten minutes with no indication on where to got and finding only one enemy and tapping the "Kill Shit" melee button to get past him.

Else I picked up Painkiller as well. It bored me just as much as SS3 did. I couldn't quit fast enough to play TF2. This made realise a couple things. One, Yahtzee has extremely opposite tastes to my own when it comes to shooters. BulletStorm, Borderlands 1 & 2, CoD:BO2, even Duke Nukem Forever he trashes all of these and I personally enjoyed every single one as opposed to his recommendations And two a game can have as many unique and colorful enemies and guns as is possible to fit on the disc, yet still turn out to be shit. i.e. Painkiller

A wise man once said that if you like a game then nothing should deter your fondness for it.

Do you know who that wise man was? Yahtzee.

FallenMessiah88:
So it's okay to completely kill everything in sight in Just Cause 2? Why? Is it because the game takes place in Asia and the main character is hispanic or at least has a hispanic sounding name? So it's okay as long as it's not white people killing people of other ethnicities?

I haven't played either game but from the sounds of it Just Cause 2 didn't take itself seriously and was basically 'Super Sandbox Murder Funtime' while COD does.

I'm British and I'm not ashamed of my country. I'm sad to see that isn't the case for you Yahtzee. Taking the piss out of the brits for all being tea drinkers with bad teeth or all Americans are fat is totally fine but saying that we should all feel guilty and apologize for simply being born white is absurd. Why do people in the entertainment industry all jump on the white guilt bandwagon?

I'm glad I listened to your audiobook beforehand as it would have effected my enjoyment of it. I will still look forward to next week as whatever your views are, at least the vast majority of your content is funny.

Rocklobster99:
It's funny how people assume that white people are still actively keeping minorities down.

Believe me, most minorities, especially blacks, oppress each other far more effectively than white people ever did.

You racist jerk, I'll prove to you that white people can oppress black people on an equal level.

(No I am not being serious).

Ultratwinkie:
Because Just Cause 2 doesn't make "America fuck yeah" popular or as far as blops does.

That is true, but my problem is that Yahtzee seems to suggest that whites killing non-whites is by definition racism, even if they are just defending themselves.

Ultratwinkie:
America has destroyed a lot of nations in its past, often due to fear of communism. Its a particularly touchy subject in South America, who had to deal with American imperialism propping up dictators who kill thousands. All so communists won't "undermine America" which would have never happened anyway because the "domino" theory was pure bull shit.

Every nation has skeletons in the closet, but I don't really see why the current generation has to bear the sins of their ancestors. I am aware that BLOPS 2 subject matter is very touchy, but to me it all comes down to how well the game handles it.

Ultratwinkie:
military shooters fall into the same pit as Home Front and red dawn, a plot so paranoid and fearful you'd swear it was written by a nutcase amassing an armory of guns to go on a killing spree of "communist spies." The same nutcases who would go on a killing spree the moment they imagine the government doing anything because "they are communist puppets."

I agree. I haven't played Homefront but some of the promotional material did make me really uncomfortable, but again, I think it comes down to the fact that it just didn't handle it's subject matter very well.

Ultratwinkie:
There is nationalism, and there is just being plain creepy. Games seem to be passing the line between the two. Especially when military shooters make a habit of gunning down people in the third world with very little way to fight back.

So if we gave them all laser guns and armored robots it would be okay then? Also, the enemies in these games aren't exactly what I would call defenseless. They've killed me more times then I can count.

Ultratwinkie:
Where is the fun of a armed to the teeth military man shooting a poor farmer in the third world? Where?

Are there really any places where you do that? Also, if the farmer is trying to kill you then I don't really see the problem.

Ultratwinkie:
Beating up on the defenseless would make me look like an asshole. Its like a game where you beat up new born babies, it just doesn't seem that fair.

True, but once again, I don't recall anywhere in the COD franchise where you do that. Are you referring to the C-130 section in COD4 and other similar sequences?

Ultratwinkie:
Also: he calls military shooters spunk gargle wee wee because he hates the genre.

I know that. I just don't agree with that. I may not like the Michael Bay Tranformers films, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be called "movies".

Oh silly kids. Yahtzee is paid for giving funny and critical reviews. I however will share his bed on this issue.
Please explain to me what new elements Black Ops 2 introduce to the already stuffed turkey of bloated over hyped first person shooters?

Father Time:

Ultratwinkie:

Rikortez:
Remember guys, check your white privilege at least twice a day. And if any minority insults or is racist towards you, its your own fault for being a privileged white male cis.

Seriously, i was very disappointed Yahtzee, never expect this kind of thing coming from you.

Unless whites are rounded up and stuck in a concentration camp like Hispanics are in some western red states, its not true racism on the scale other races face.

White jokes? Everyone has race jokes.

Whites don't have people like Joe Arpaio chasing them, infringing on their rights, and sent to a camp in the desert. Where there is very little food, water, and the women are sexually assaulted and and don't even have tampons. Forced to sleep in their own menstrual blood stained sheets. Yet the Department of Justice does nothing.

They let it happen. So any time a white man says they are having a hard time with reverse racism, remember this:

At least you're not in an American concentration camp in 2012.

Dude if you're going to use hyperbole like concentration camp you damn well better source it.

Also Arpaio doesn't have special whites only prisons with better care, they're shit whatever your race is.

Arpaio specifically calls his jail a concentration camp and tries to emulate them.

http://www.justice.gov/iso/opa/resources/46420125101544060757.pdf
http://americasvoiceonline.org/blog/arpaio-boasts-about-his-concentration-camp-calls-out-puente-arizona-for-challenging-him/

Arpaio doesn't go after whites. He has a hard on for "illegal parasites," and wants to be "tough" on them even without even so much as probable cause. Treating a person worse solely because of their race is discrimination. Period. Especially when they are specifically sent to a plot of fenced in desert that barely qualifies as a prison.

The DOJ is after him, but other than a complaint they do nothing.

All this talk of how there is so much reverse racism makes little sense. Especially in statistics.

The world isn't against whites. It never was. To assume it is is paranoid.

ObsidianJones:
Honestly, this whole thread has made me severely uncomfortable with all the seething going on.

For a little bit, I think I'm going to feel uncomfortable being a non-white escapist member. There's just... a lot of anger here.

Well as a white guy I can honestly say I don't know what the hell everyone's on about. Some peeps are insecure evidently. And the american war drum tune does get reaaaally old. Watching the trailer for something like the new Red Dawn movie makes me want to throw up.

Well that was.. um.. interesting. Was that a review or a rant? I mean I don't really take what yahtzee says as reviews most of the time but usually I get something out of it. I guess in this case, he doesn't like white people shooting people? So was the game play good? How were the graphics? Story telling? Most people buy this for Multi-player and Zombies anyway.. so.. moving on now.

Zeldias:
Just popping in to say racism is about more than people hurting/being mean to you. It's also about the systems of oppression that operate throughout our (in my case, American) culture. White people can't be victims of racism because racism is about more than people hurting you; it's about institutions, stereotypes, and culture seeking to bring people who look like you down or keep you as less than. It's about privileging the history of one dominant ethnic group over all others. It's about erasure and faulty assumptions, even the ones that sound good ("I don't see color, I see people," for example, becomes a method of blaming victims of, say, residential segregation or white gentrification, on people of color or ignoring the fact that it happens entirely).

White privilege is about not having to notice or think about this or be affected by it. It's about having an entire history and culture of a nation dedicated to raising you and people who look like you up. White privilege is when a white kid in my class complains to me that s/he can't write about her/his culture be s/he is white (as if whites have no culture; it's American culture! It's the culture of western Europe!). Racism is about normalizing whiteness so that everyone thinks white people are the standard.

So the cure to the belief in white exceptionalism, is to believe in yet more white exceptionalism? That he and he alone of amongst all of humanity's children has been cursed with so much awesome that the only way to level the playing field and bring all men, women and children together in glorious racial harmony is for him, and him alone, to shoot himself in the foot.

What exactly are you hawking here exactly?

The white man's burden 2.0, or maybe something catchier like the iBurden?

How many poor & disfranchised minorities (because multi-generational working-class white people don't exist, or if they do it's they're own damn fault for not capitalising on being so 'awesomely' white) do you have to help out before you feel less guilty of the fact your entire existence is ultimately made possible by the wholescale exploitation of foreign materials and labour?

You want to seriously start addressing 'institutional racism', how about trying to pay for everything you consume in your day-to-day life as if every hand that was involved in it's production were paid the minimum American wage. And then we will see just how much you've got leftover to spend on video games at the end of the week, and how long you want to keep it up for.

tifa77:
I'm British and I'm not ashamed of my country. I'm sad to see that isn't the case for you Yahtzee. Taking the piss out of the brits for all being tea drinkers with bad teeth or all Americans are fat is totally fine but saying that we should all feel guilty and apologize for simply being born white is absurd. Why do people in the entertainment industry all jump on the white guilt bandwagon?

I might agree with you if Yahtzee had actually said any of the things you're accusing him of. The only thing he said about you, or any of us is that white people in the first world are the most privileged. Nothing more. All this crap you're talking about is something that you came up with yourself quite frankly.

Meh

I used to think yahtzee was funny, actually using satire to deconstruct the game in a funny manner Now its just preachy. It pretty much just sounds like:

"IF U DONT LIKE WHAT I LIKE YOUR A RIGHT WING RACIST NUTJOB, AND IF AMERICANS ARE THE PROTAGINIST THE GAME IS RACIST"

Okay, admittidly, its presented in a much more eloquent form, but the point remains the same.And this is coming form a person who really only rarley plays CoD (not that that ACTUALLY gives me more credibility)

"But Yahtzee, you didn't review the ground breaking and outstanding multiplayer! It's an important part of the game and you didn't even acknowledge it!"

...said a horde of cunts

You want to type about institutionalized racism? It's illegal for a white man to own a business in Zimbabwe.

catalyst8:
Because Whites are never the victims of racism. Oh, wait:
'That's makes 4 attacks that we know of so far related to blacks engaging in lynch mob mentality to attack whites because they feel "justified".'
http://thegraph.com/2012/04/another-white-man-critically-beaten-20-black-racist-thugs-assault-him-citing-justice-for-trayvon/

Don't forget schools raise blacks to believe everything wrong with their lives is the fault of whites. So whites are robbed to fund institutions which indoctrinate blacks to be hostile to them.

The media reinforces and maintains these beliefs with lies like "a white man murdered an innocent black boy" when in fact Zimmerman was half jewish, half puerto rican, 0% white.

Father Time:

Arren Kae:
Yahtzee has imbibed white guilt so strongly he complains when a story doesn't punish whites for imagined evils or portrays non-whites as anything but righteous and pure.

How are whites privileged? Under the law, it's illegal for a business to be all-white. Whites are forced to disfavor our people under threat-of-violence from the state. Whites are robbed through the issuance of new currency to pay for non-white housing, food, electricity, cell phones, plasma tvs, lobster dinners, schooling, medical care, and any other thing non-whites want.

1 Are you just substituting poor for non-white?

Arren Kae:

Meanwhile whites are robbed, assaulted, raped, and murdered by non-whites (excluding asians) disproportionately. Yet if a white man so much as is accused of saying an ill word against another race he risks imprisonment.

2 Come to the U.S. where you can say anything you want against any race (except calls for violence), even if it's racist.

Arren Kae:

In Yahtzee's jolly old England it's legal for muslim women to beat a white woman while screaming "kill the slag" but if a white mother expresses concern about her son growing up in such an environment she'll be held prisoner, fined, and her son kidnapped by the state.

3 I call BS.

Arren Kae:

You want to talk about slavery? You know who practiced slavery? Everyone. You know who was the first people to decide slavery was wrong and they wouldn't practice it anymore? Whites. Slavery is still practiced today in northern africa by jews and arabs, as it has been for generations, and there are more north-african slaves today than there ever were slaves in a european nation, canada, or the USA.

4 Source?

Arren Kae:

As for homosexuals, his argument is entirely factitious and he knows it.

5 Come to the U.S. you'll find people who actually do think this is persecution. Even when their church won't be forced to marry.

1. No.
2. http://skinnyreporter.com/hatespeech.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356295,00.html
You don't know your country very well. If someone makes an issue over something you've said you can easily lose your job, get arrested, and/or fined.

3. You should follow events outside your country.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070647/Racist-woman-tram-spend-Christmas-bars-protection.html

4. History.
5. If you can believe that not forcing another man to obey your will means you are persecuted then you have demonstrated a capacity for doublethink.

Rikortez:
Remember guys, check your white privilege at least twice a day. And if any minority insults or is racist towards you, its your own fault for being a privileged white male cis.

Seriously, i was very disappointed Yahtzee, never expect this kind of thing coming from you.

Yahtzee says "I feel so bad playing a white character killing non-whites, OH GOD MY WHITE GUILT!" every episode the subject comes up. This episode's the worst he's ever done b/c there's nothing else to it but self-flagellating, "shame on me for being a white man".

tifa77:
I'm British and I'm not ashamed of my country. I'm sad to see that isn't the case for you Yahtzee. Taking the piss out of the brits for all being tea drinkers with bad teeth or all Americans are fat is totally fine but saying that we should all feel guilty and apologize for simply being born white is absurd. Why do people in the entertainment industry all jump on the white guilt bandwagon?

I'm glad I listened to your audiobook beforehand as it would have effected my enjoyment of it. I will still look forward to next week as whatever your views are, at least the vast majority of your content is funny.

Huh, I guess I didn't see that. Maybe because I think that us white people in first-world countries are some of the most privileged people in the world.

My download speed can go well above 1 mb/s if I'm downloading from the right server and I could probably emulate the playstation 2 on my 5-year-old computer. I'm sure new computers could emulate the PS3. I have a massive flatscreen monitor and if I suddenly get bored with my technological wonder, I could go out and watch my 50-inch TV. By the by, I've had nothing but shit temp jobs through-out my life. In any other kind of country or as any other kind of race, I'm sure I'd be struggling my ass off just to eat. Not to say that other races are getting better footing in America but Yahtzee is still, technically, correct right now.

My mother has this friend (who is white) who owns three massive houses outright and who is, right as I'm writing this, probably complaining about how is sister is taking all of their parents money through legal means. In America, the only time such a fervor was made over a president's birthplace was over a black man... the latest notable occurrence being rich white guy threatening not to give five million dollars to people who need help if he didn't get a birth certificate. I know we like to live in a fantasy world of love and gumdrops but there is no need to get so... ahem:

BUTTHURT

...when someone points out that we're still doing pretty amazingly when it comes to acting like entitled white people. Admittedly I don't know how it is in Britain, but I'm sure if you sat down to think about it, you could come up with a massive list of modern events where entitled white people were being racist. I could go find a youtube video of some British white guy acting all indignant that Arab people live near him.

Also, I'm not sure where he asked people to apologize. Did I miss a forum post somewhere? Because he certainly didn't ask for an apology in the video.

Rastelin:
Oh silly kids. Yahtzee is paid for giving funny and critical reviews. I however will share his bed on this issue.
Please explain to me what new elements Black Ops 2 introduce to the already stuffed turkey of bloated over hyped first person shooters?

Well there was umm... And that thing with the thing... And err...

Did anybody else catch the LIMBO reference?
(A spider with seven legs pulled off, in the same position as that boss fight that gave me several dozen nightmares)

Yahtzee, don't ever change.

This is the first ZP review I decided not to fully watch. The instant I saw what he was reviewing, I thought to myself, He's going to spend the whole review talking about the imbalance of the villains to the hero's, and he'll some how managed to shoe horn in the phrase, "right-wing gun wank." And low and behold, he did. This is the problem I have with ZP these days; It's too bloody predictable. I used to love the old days when every review was a mystery. Now, you can pretty much guess what's going to happen with titles he's going to review. I know Yahtzee hates the lack of innovation and story telling in these types of games but he could at least try to throw us a curve ball.

MrNelg:
he could at least try to throw us a curve ball.

He did: He brought up white privilege and brought down a shit storm that has been surging for about four pages.

You weren't expecting that, were you?

Only thing I remember from this game was the fact that the melee attack somehow managed to look even less convincing than before.

"I KNIFE YOU IN THE SOUL"
"BLARG! I AM DEAD!"

And that's all I can remember because every moment I see it it looks more and more unmemorable and bland.
Give it a few years, and you could probably use this game to induce selective amnesia.

Enosh_:
the tower defense is just one of the strike force missions...

GonzoGamer:
This game got me thinking that the next "Just Cause" game would be really cool if it was futuristic.

I dig that he pointed out how horribly pedestrian the campaigns for FPSs have been this generation. Sure, people mostly spend time in multiplayer but considering they have two different COD franchises now, they should try doing something interesting with at least one of them; and yes that doesn't mean stapling (Tower Defense) minigames onto it. I wont write off strategy, but they should put a little more effort than that. Or how about an open world CoD like Far Cry or Fallout.

The thing is that I like playing CoD multiplayer but I got the last one and when I feel like playing a game like that, I'll play the last one. Changing up the SP campaign would probably be the best way of getting more people to buy every installment.

*facepalm*
This is probably the best COD SP since COD4 not kidding the whole story revolves around several choices in the game. you can save the world or let it go to shit you can actually beat the villain but lose in the big picture. making things better just about half the Choices in the game are never presented AS choices they just put you in a situation and let you react in few ways. that is certai nly "interesting"

yahtzee knew exactly what he was doing, he knew the review would stir up a shitstorm and he played it to the max.

anyone who takes his "reviews" seriously is an idiot. he's torn right into games that i love and i couldn't care less, because it's always been about entertainment. if he tears down a game that i hold dear it doesn't matter as long as i get a laugh out of it, it's when they're not funny that i'm dissapointed.

as someone who couldn't care less about CoD one way or another seeing the levels of butthurt here is amazing (and highly amusing). but that's what this review was all about anyway, starting a shitstorm.

People seriously, is going at each other like this really solving anything? Can we please just put down the race topic and walk away? Can we stop talking about politics and talk more about video games?

Anchupom:
Well there was umm... And that thing with the thing... And err...

Well to be fair to Black Ops 2. There was... umm... But wait!... There was... err...

Yes you sit there, just realizing there is a lot of graphics, but nothing new. Games does not amount to much
compared to the real problems we struggle with daily, but once in avail it would be nice to pay for something worth while.

The latest series I found worth the money was the Walking Dead. Was different.

Ultratwinkie:

Father Time:

Ultratwinkie:

Unless whites are rounded up and stuck in a concentration camp like Hispanics are in some western red states, its not true racism on the scale other races face.

White jokes? Everyone has race jokes.

Whites don't have people like Joe Arpaio chasing them, infringing on their rights, and sent to a camp in the desert. Where there is very little food, water, and the women are sexually assaulted and and don't even have tampons. Forced to sleep in their own menstrual blood stained sheets. Yet the Department of Justice does nothing.

They let it happen. So any time a white man says they are having a hard time with reverse racism, remember this:

At least you're not in an American concentration camp in 2012.

Dude if you're going to use hyperbole like concentration camp you damn well better source it.

Also Arpaio doesn't have special whites only prisons with better care, they're shit whatever your race is.

Arpaio specifically calls his jail a concentration camp and tries to emulate them.

http://www.justice.gov/iso/opa/resources/46420125101544060757.pdf
http://americasvoiceonline.org/blog/arpaio-boasts-about-his-concentration-camp-calls-out-puente-arizona-for-challenging-him/

Arpaio doesn't go after whites. He has a hard on for "illegal parasites," and wants to be "tough" on them even without even so much as probable cause. Treating a person worse solely because of their race is discrimination. Period. Especially when they are specifically sent to a plot of fenced in desert that barely qualifies as a prison.

The DOJ is after him, but other than a complaint they do nothing.

All this talk of how there is so much reverse racism makes little sense. Especially in statistics.

The world isn't against whites. It never was. To assume it is is paranoid.

You know this got started by talking about race jokes. Yes whites don't have it worse than blacks in that regard but to say we have no right to complain or call it racism because of slavery is crap. That's all. I don't think whites in the U.S. have it extra hard all else being equal.

I love Yahtzee, but I'm getting really sick of his criticisms of Modern Shooters, I get it, he doesnt like them. And he doesnt like multiplayer either which really makes it seem strange that he even reviews them.
I know he's said in the past that a game should stand up on its single player, but Its not something I agree with, and its just his opinion. I'd rather he look at other games rather than Modern Shooters since those reviews are usually funny, and not hate filled rants

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