Let's Watch The Man Of Steel Trailer

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Let's Watch The Man Of Steel Trailer

MovieBob breaks down the new Man of Steel trailer frame by frame.

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In case anyone's wondering, the music for the first half is from immortals and the 2nd half is from Elizabeth the golden age.

Laurence Fishburne (playing Daily Planet editor Perry White, which I'm sure someone is going to find inexplicably infuriating)

That might be me, actually. Not because he's black, just because newspeople shouldn't be so damn cryptic. I don't want to have to swallow a pill to see the news for myself.

Amy Adams looking like Amy Adams is never, ever a bad thing. Also, I'm pretty sure you were spot on about the reasoning behind costume details being for HD. That, and I think designers feel it looks more "modern" and "flashy" than your typical established costumes.

Lvl 64 Klutz:
Amy Adams looking like Amy Adams is never, ever a bad thing. Also, I'm pretty sure you were spot on about the reasoning behind costume details being for HD. That, and I think designers feel it looks more "modern" and "flashy" than your typical established costumes.

No no no the whole point of fancy costumes with way to much detail is to really piss of the cosplayers by 1. making the not the original costume look better, an 2. really piss off anyone trying to replicate it.

I am mildly annoyed by the change in tone in Bob's reactions to this (a gritty reboot of a superhero movie that came out 6 years ago) compared to Amazing Spider-Man (a gritty reboot of a superhero franchise that had ended 5 years before). Not only is the visual change pretty much spot-on here, but this is actually designed to be a brighter, more colourful superhero's Batman Begins, something that Bob called out so hard then.

For the record, my only big problem with this film so far is that Zack Snyder is directing it. Snyder is a bad director that has never put together a good movie. I like seeing him abandon his super-stylized videogame cutscene look (pity he directed Watchmen before that got knocked into his head post-Sucker Punch), but that's not the only thing he doesn't have a great grasp of. I'll give this a look. Spider-Man also turned out better than it seemed it should, and maybe the absolute lack of humour, sense of adventure or whimsy here is just an by-product of marketing. We'll see.

Domogo:

Lvl 64 Klutz:
Amy Adams looking like Amy Adams is never, ever a bad thing. Also, I'm pretty sure you were spot on about the reasoning behind costume details being for HD. That, and I think designers feel it looks more "modern" and "flashy" than your typical established costumes.

No no no the whole point of fancy costumes with way to much detail is to really piss of the cosplayers by 1. making the not the original costume look better, an 2. really piss off anyone trying to replicate it.

I'm pretty sure it's because directors want to be able to do close ups on these things.

Also, heavily textured fabrics are easier to CG match than straight up spandex, believe it or not. The matte, flat surface of a taut fabric, the fact that it wrinkles when it moves... that stuff is like skin, hard to match accurately. These suits look CG in normal photography already, so they work better with the effects.

movie looks fine, but i just cant seem to give a crap about the villain... am i the only one who is just over Zod stories? i feel like this is a throw away villain... lets have superman fight... evil... superman... again... bleh

Devin Barker:
movie looks fine, but i just cant seem to give a crap about the villain... am i the only one who is just over Zod stories? i feel like this is a throw away villain... lets have superman fight... evil... superman... again... bleh

What else is he gonna fight then? Remember, Superman in a straight up brawl with Just About Anyone = Known Outcome. That's why Lex was always involved in these massive, grandiose schemes -- so that simply pummeling him wouldn't solve it.

OT: I *like* the bearded look for Supes. Plus it answers one of the questions for me, how does an invulnerable person shave?

If I had to guess, 1:57 is a fisherman casting his net whilst Kal-El's baby basket (or some other spacecraft) enters Earth's atmosphere.

2 things: First, that scene you can't figure out is him casting a net from a boat.
Second, all costumes have to look more stylized so that they're not seen as spandex, because spandex is the dumbest thing about comic book super heroes. I really have to thank X-men for stopping that trend, and the Sam Raimi Spider-man for pointing out that its kind of ridiculous

This movie is gonna be AWESOME!!! Superman really deserves a good movie. But since this is being made by Snyder, I bet this will be the best super hero movie ever. Sorry guys, but I just LOVE Zack Snyder. He's my favorite director alive and I almost jizzed when I heard about the new Superman movie having him at the helm. Everything he's made has been pure gold (for me, at least). I remember my mother's face when I showed her Guardians of Ga'Hoole, priceless (she loves owls). He can handle any action scene and turn it into an epic moment. We know that the actors are also perfect, I guess nobody has any complaint about the main actor, so... the only reason this could fail is the script being made by retarded monkeys (such as... you know... the ones that wrote The Dark Knight Rises).

My only fear is that Superman is so well known and will attract such a huge crowd in the wake of the latest superhero movie line-up, that the producers will need to care for the dumb crowds, which means that Snyder will basically have to be put on a leash, lest he may active the fat lazy neurons of Sunday overthinkers and cause them brain damage.

Kwil:

Devin Barker:
movie looks fine, but i just cant seem to give a crap about the villain... am i the only one who is just over Zod stories? i feel like this is a throw away villain... lets have superman fight... evil... superman... again... bleh

What else is he gonna fight then? Remember, Superman in a straight up brawl with Just About Anyone = Known Outcome. That's why Lex was always involved in these massive, grandiose schemes -- so that simply pummeling him wouldn't solve it.

OT: I *like* the bearded look for Supes. Plus it answers one of the questions for me, how does an invulnerable person shave?

Metallo, Darkseid, Mongul, Ultra-Humanite, army of toy man robots... there are tons of other option that are not "another evil Kryptonian" Zod has been done to death and with a hero who has so many villains, why are we sticking with the same ones we've seen over and over?

Devin Barker:
Metallo, Darkseid, Mongul, Ultra-Humanite, army of toy man robots... there are tons of other option that are not "another evil Kryptonian" Zod has been done to death and with a hero who has so many villains, why are we sticking with the same ones we've seen over and over?

In order: "Who?" "Okay, heard of him" "Who?" "Who?" "LOL.. seriously?"
Remember, they're making this movie to make money.. that is, get a mass audience. They've got limited time, so Zod is great because you don't have to explain how he *also* has super powers, whereas any of these other guys and you're looking at at least a 15 minute origin story being required (which, by the way, further strains your suspension of belief), and then on top of that, if you want the story to have any sort of personal connection, you have to throw in the motivation as to why they're up against Supes. Zod has various possibilities for that already baked in.

Not to mention that, as Bob points out, this whole thing is operating under the shadow of the first Superman movies.. well.. as long as your under there, why not use some of that stuff since it's already built into your audience.

Devin Barker:

Kwil:

Devin Barker:
movie looks fine, but i just cant seem to give a crap about the villain... am i the only one who is just over Zod stories? i feel like this is a throw away villain... lets have superman fight... evil... superman... again... bleh

What else is he gonna fight then? Remember, Superman in a straight up brawl with Just About Anyone = Known Outcome. That's why Lex was always involved in these massive, grandiose schemes -- so that simply pummeling him wouldn't solve it.

OT: I *like* the bearded look for Supes. Plus it answers one of the questions for me, how does an invulnerable person shave?

Metallo, Darkseid, Mongul, Ultra-Humanite, army of toy man robots... there are tons of other option that are not "another evil Kryptonian" Zod has been done to death and with a hero who has so many villains, why are we sticking with the same ones we've seen over and over?

I've really only seen Zod in "Superman 2" and "To Boldly Flee". And "To Boldly Flee" was an amateur parody movie made by a bunch of internet critics. Actually, I think I remember Zod showing up in the Superman animated TV series.

1. Yeah, Cavill does fit the part of Superman in the looks department. He's got the strong jaw, the rugged face without looking too rugged, and he's got the build. Also, the beard is fine, get the fuck over it.

2. On the costume: spandex looks STUPID in live-action. It doesn't make the character look imposing, but rather silly in a bad way. The MoS suit just looks BETTER.

3. I think about the tone this way: ya know what ALSO had a very somber, serious tone and yet was practically unmatched in sheer spectacle? Kingdom Come, one of the GREATEST limited series in the past twenty years. I ain't worried about the tone getting in the way of the spectacle of Superman.

So far, as a huge Superman fan, I'm quite optimistic about the film. I hope it's not too gritty, there should be some lightness to it, but we'll only know that when it comes out.

One thing does bug me though and that is the take off at 1.30. I always liked how he flew in the animated series, like there was no effort as he glided through the sky.

MovieBob:
Getting a sinking feeling that whatever this thing is, it will also turn out to be the thing that destroyed Krypton ... and that said destruction will turn out to have been a deliberate act of villainy, which would be another instance of missing the point of the story.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm of the understanding that the destruction of Krypton in the comics is a deliberate act of villainy - specifically, the act of Brainiac, doing what Brainiac does. Is that not the case?

Storm Dragon:

Devin Barker:

Kwil:

What else is he gonna fight then? Remember, Superman in a straight up brawl with Just About Anyone = Known Outcome. That's why Lex was always involved in these massive, grandiose schemes -- so that simply pummeling him wouldn't solve it.

OT: I *like* the bearded look for Supes. Plus it answers one of the questions for me, how does an invulnerable person shave?

Metallo, Darkseid, Mongul, Ultra-Humanite, army of toy man robots... there are tons of other option that are not "another evil Kryptonian" Zod has been done to death and with a hero who has so many villains, why are we sticking with the same ones we've seen over and over?

I've really only seen Zod in "Superman 2" and "To Boldly Flee". And "To Boldly Flee" was an amateur parody movie made by a bunch of internet critics. Actually, I think I remember Zod showing up in the Superman animated TV series.

Kwil:

Devin Barker:
Metallo, Darkseid, Mongul, Ultra-Humanite, army of toy man robots... there are tons of other option that are not "another evil Kryptonian" Zod has been done to death and with a hero who has so many villains, why are we sticking with the same ones we've seen over and over?

In order: "Who?" "Okay, heard of him" "Who?" "Who?" "LOL.. seriously?"
Remember, they're making this movie to make money.. that is, get a mass audience. They've got limited time, so Zod is great because you don't have to explain how he *also* has super powers, whereas any of these other guys and you're looking at at least a 15 minute origin story being required (which, by the way, further strains your suspension of belief), and then on top of that, if you want the story to have any sort of personal connection, you have to throw in the motivation as to why they're up against Supes. Zod has various possibilities for that already baked in.

Not to mention that, as Bob points out, this whole thing is operating under the shadow of the first Superman movies.. well.. as long as your under there, why not use some of that stuff since it's already built into your audience.

Do you really think they are not going to go over Zod's background? they are also going to waste a bunch of time going over Supermans background as well. If we have to do backstory, why not make it a villain people are less familiar with. As for making money, no one is coming to see Zod, the villain can be anyone people are coming to see superman (and maybe the dude PLAYING Zod, but not the character himself) and all of the villains I've mentioned have just as much against supes as Zod. My problem is any time a non comic gets ahold of supes the first idea is to throw him against more Kryptonians (hell even in comics they cant get away from it, and it still bugs. new 52 made and all new Kryptonian named H'el and its getting old fast). My problem is there is nothing fresh about this except the "dark tone" why not go a little out of the way to pull out a more festive villain with a richer background that does not boil down to "family issues"

As for him being in other works Storm Dragon, he you are right about those 2, but he was also the villain for an entire season (and a few random eps) of Smallville

krellen:

MovieBob:
Getting a sinking feeling that whatever this thing is, it will also turn out to be the thing that destroyed Krypton ... and that said destruction will turn out to have been a deliberate act of villainy, which would be another instance of missing the point of the story.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm of the understanding that the destruction of Krypton in the comics is a deliberate act of villainy - specifically, the act of Brainiac, doing what Brainiac does. Is that not the case?

What caused the destruction of Krypton changes every couple years in the comics. Kinda annoying, really. At first it was just natural causes that destroyed Krypton. In the animated series, Brainiac didn't cause it, but he was the reason nobody believed Jor-El when he said the planet was doomed. But yeah, before the New 52 reboot, Brainiac was what caused it. No word on what caused it post-Flashpoint, I think. Haven't really kept up with the New 52.

Random shot of shoreline rocks. The most common "pithy" observation about this trailer you'll hear from movie-persons about the style in place here will be "it looks like Terrence Mallick made a superhero movie!" This is a Terrence Mallick movie. We should be so lucky.

Well, in another escapist thread I said "it looks like Snyder took some cues from Terrence Mallick." While this will fall short of Mallick's work, I also think this just might be Snyder's attempt at maturing as a film maker, and I can think of many, many worse people to rip off from than Mallick. Heck, if I ever made a movie, I would be ripping off from him left and right.

Moreover, after the failure of "Sucker Punch," Snyder might indeed be humbled and looking to mature as an artist. If this is true, then this could be a truly great movie.

Mr. Omega:

krellen:

MovieBob:
Getting a sinking feeling that whatever this thing is, it will also turn out to be the thing that destroyed Krypton ... and that said destruction will turn out to have been a deliberate act of villainy, which would be another instance of missing the point of the story.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm of the understanding that the destruction of Krypton in the comics is a deliberate act of villainy - specifically, the act of Brainiac, doing what Brainiac does. Is that not the case?

What caused the destruction of Krypton changes every couple years in the comics. Kinda annoying, really. At first it was just natural causes that destroyed Krypton. In the animated series, Brainiac didn't cause it, but he was the reason nobody believed Jor-El when he said the planet was doomed. But yeah, before the New 52 reboot, Brainiac was what caused it. No word on what caused it post-Flashpoint, I think. Haven't really kept up with the New 52.

In the nu52, the cause of Krypton's destruction was shown in Superman #0, discovered by Jor-El to be the planet itself rotting at the core. What caused THAT to happen, I think, will be a mystery revealed throughout the Superman family of books (Action Comics, Superman, Supergirl, and Superboy).

Kwil:

Devin Barker:
movie looks fine, but i just cant seem to give a crap about the villain... am i the only one who is just over Zod stories? i feel like this is a throw away villain... lets have superman fight... evil... superman... again... bleh

What else is he gonna fight then? Remember, Superman in a straight up brawl with Just About Anyone = Known Outcome. That's why Lex was always involved in these massive, grandiose schemes -- so that simply pummeling him wouldn't solve it.

OT: I *like* the bearded look for Supes. Plus it answers one of the questions for me, how does an invulnerable person shave?

superman uses a kryptonian crystal to reflect his heat vision back onto his face, essentially burning the stubble off.
and since he is superman he could probably just shave by pulling the hair from his skin, he should be able to do this.

i just hope we will not see a razor when i looses the beard in the movie(unless it's magic, that could work)

The only thing that can really go wrong here is Zach Snyder. The man has no style to speak of and his films so far have all taken decent (Dawn of the Dead) or great (Watchmen) material and completely and utterly ruined it with his misogynistic and fascist attitudes. The only stuff he was suited for (300) was nearly unwatchable frat boy hogwash. Superman deserves a more mature director.

Oh, and also: the link in the article to the trailer leads to an extremely low quality video here on the Escapist, with the option to watch the high quality one if you PAY for the publisher's club.

Seriously, Escapist? That's how low you're going to go? It's not exactly a big deal to go on Youtube and watch a pristine 1080p copy of the trailer, but c'mon. That's 2001 style misunderstanding of the internet right there.

Kwil:
OT: I *like* the bearded look for Supes. Plus it answers one of the questions for me, how does an invulnerable person shave?

teebeeohh:

superman uses a kryptonian crystal to reflect his heat vision back onto his face, essentially burning the stubble off.
and since he is superman he could probably just shave by pulling the hair from his skin, he should be able to do this.

i just hope we will not see a razor when i looses the beard in the movie(unless it's magic, that could work)

I always liked the idea of him using his heat vision. That was the case in Superman: TAS and I would be disappointed with any other solution.

(Related scene at beginning of video.)

While Superman is incredibly far down the list in terms of my favorite superheroes, this movie looks pretty awesome. While I feel that Zod is a bit overused, he's also the easiest to do. Would I have liked to see Darkseid? Yes, definitely (especially if he's voiced by Michael Ironside) but it may be too difficult to do without a long backstory segment that'd be far longer than a Zod segment.

2:17 -2:19

Superman comes back after taking 8 years off to dipshit around his mansion...

Oh wait, that will be the 3rd movie once Snider does what he does and Nolan takes over...

I am not gonna lie. I am ridiculously excited about this movie. This, to me, seems like the reboot that was always necessary for Superman movies to succeed beyond what they were.

I had some issues with the trailer when I first saw it, but now that I have watched it a couple of times my only concern is the tone of the movie and might give it a chance at the theaters if I have time. I just hope that Pa Kent will get put in his place by Clark with the thought of letting the students die.

The reason why I think they are going for General Zod in this movie is two-fold one they wanted a villain that there is some knowledge in the public already, really I was expecting either General Zod or Lex Luthor when the movie was announced. The other reason is that they might be able to streamline the back story for they can combine the two characters back story into a smaller amount of time then trying to have two unrelated back stories.

MovieBob:
Let's Watch The Man Of Steel Trailer

MovieBob breaks down the new Man of Steel trailer frame by frame.

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The reason for the costume ridges, other than "because we now can, in the days of HD," is probably due to the shift toward realism. We need to convey that this fabric is no longer just plain ol' polyblend. I'd imagine Supes learns his lesson during the fire rescue scene, "Damn! My costume isn't as indestructible as I am," and begins working with a fabric that is on-par with his usual daily regimen of fire and supersonic flight.

The old way of conveying this? Explaining that he made his suit out of a Kryptonian polyblend. The new way? Make it look like higher-tech fabric by adding ridges, plating, and other surface articulations.

Lvl 64 Klutz:
That, and I think designers feel it looks more "modern" and "flashy" than your typical established costumes.

To be fair, they often do look better, HD or no.

Noelveiga:
I am mildly annoyed by the change in tone in Bob's reactions to this (a gritty reboot of a superhero movie that came out 6 years ago) compared to Amazing Spider-Man (a gritty reboot of a superhero franchise that had ended 5 years before). Not only is the visual change pretty much spot-on here, but this is actually designed to be a brighter, more colourful superhero's Batman Begins, something that Bob called out so hard then.

It's part of Bob's MO. In fact, it seems to be a larger issue with critics in general. I hate (X), unless it's in something that tickles my fancy.

Bob is also annoyed with them messing with canon, though canon changes faster than most of us change our underwear and he even acknowledges canon changes (specifically, that he would like to see hints of the tinkerer Superman from the Golden Age, though that hasn't really been an aspect of Superman since).

For the record, my only big problem with this film so far is that Zack Snyder is directing it. Snyder is a bad director that has never put together a good movie. I like seeing him abandon his super-stylized videogame cutscene look (pity he directed Watchmen before that got knocked into his head post-Sucker Punch), but that's not the only thing he doesn't have a great grasp of. I'll give this a look. Spider-Man also turned out better than it seemed it should, and maybe the absolute lack of humour, sense of adventure or whimsy here is just an by-product of marketing. We'll see.[/quote]

Agreed on Snyder. He's just terrible.

SpiderJerusalem:
The only thing that can really go wrong here is Zach Snyder. The man has no style to speak of and his films so far have all taken decent (Dawn of the Dead) or great (Watchmen) material and completely and utterly ruined it with his misogynistic and fascist attitudes. The only stuff he was suited for (300) was nearly unwatchable frat boy hogwash. Superman deserves a more mature director.

I always sort of wanted to see Superman go through a rough patch while coming to terms with how his powers make him different.

A dudebro Superman would be interesting. It's a shame we're getting a dudebro director instead.

I'm starting to really warm up to the costume. It's the details on the arms that sell me and how much the cape flaps. It looks more like Alien clothing too which might be their angle.

Sanunes:
I just hope that Pa Kent will get put in his place by Clark with the thought of letting the students die.

A lot of people are focused on this but I think we're viewing it out of context. The tone and posture Costner adopts for this line implies he's uneasy with what he's saying. It's the conflict between protecting ones own family and doing what's right. Who knows he might follow it up with a "but that's not how we raised you" or something like that.

No Lex Luthor stealing 40 cakes? Boo!

What about Grodd? "As the smartest gorilla in the world, I am incapable of anything else!"

The usual humourless Zack Snyder schtick.

Snyder is a solid director. Dawn was good and 300 was a lot of fun so hopefully with this fantastic cast the film will work out.

Had not realized until now that Michael Shannon is playing Zod. I think I'm more excited about his casting than I am about Cavill's...

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