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Well said.

The news sites I check in on has greatly diminished over the past years specifically because of this.

I wish the fake Morgan Freeman quote that's been circulating Facebook was legit. In any case we haven't learned a damn thing since Columbine. The media is making all of the same errors all over again.

Treating mass murderers as celebrities rather than showing support for the victims and their families is always a great idea. I mean, sensationalism gets you more views and delicious ad revenue than, I dunno, doing your fucking job properly, so why not?

This is the exact point I've been making in a lot of threads about this.

A Leveson Enquiry for the US media?

One of the biggest problems that I've personally seen is that, unlike the BBC (even with it's flaws), there are no news outlets in the United States that are required to remain balanced.

Or in other words, an outlet without an axe to grind.

On another, related, note: highlighting that any individual consumes one piece of media over another is ignorant and bad journalism.

Indeed a people has the media it's willing to pay for.

If everyone expects media that is neither tax funded nor cost anything to use, then it'll be funded through advertisement... and consequently subservient to all kinds of auxiliary commercial interests. That which draws in the crowd draws in the ad revenue, and one can hardly expect journalists to not do what they can to keep themselves employed.

You want serious news coverage free of sensationalism/sponsor soft censorship? Well, it's going to cost you: Either in the form of some taxation to a publicly funded news station, or pulling out the money of your own pocket, to pay the price required to keep it in business with such editorial policy. Nothing in life is free.

After a whole day of watching Charlie Brooker's various digs at TV, this really did make me chuckle, which isn't something I do a lot...

I'm pretty sure that's where the news is actually going though... Each source gets more sensationalist every time there's any kind of tragedy like this. The next step is sacking all the reporters, and just carrying a camera around the town and asking their opinions... next, they start having to guess which news story is correct, then they get to put a pound in the Sky News "Caribbean Tsunami" Pinball machine for a chance to win up to £10,000!
...how else are they going to pander to the masses of idiots (that are apparently my age group) in the future?

I think I'll just leave this here:

Says it nicely, really.

agreed. my condolences to the families and victims.

Thank you.
The "real" news world only seems to be getting worse by the day.
I am glad to find some sanctuary on the Escapist.

I don't watch the news.

Chrono212:
A Leveson Enquiry for the US media?

One of the biggest problems that I've personally seen is that, unlike the BBC (even with it's flaws), there are no news outlets in the United States that are required to remain balanced.

Or in other words, an outlet without an axe to grind.

On another, related, not: highlighting that any individual consumes one piece of media over another is ignorant and bad journalism.

A Leveson Inquiry for the US media would produce a report weighing roughly the same as an average family sedan. I fear they're well past the point of no return by now.

Fappy:
I wish the fake Morgan Freeman quote that's been circulating Facebook was legit. In any case we haven't learned a damn thing since Columbine. The media is making all of the same errors all over again.

What is this quote? I don't care if it's not legit so long as it's apt.

NinjaDeathSlap:

Chrono212:
A Leveson Enquiry for the US media?

One of the biggest problems that I've personally seen is that, unlike the BBC (even with it's flaws), there are no news outlets in the United States that are required to remain balanced.

Or in other words, an outlet without an axe to grind.

On another, related, not: highlighting that any individual consumes one piece of media over another is ignorant and bad journalism.

A Leveson Inquiry for the US media would produce a report weighing roughly the same as an average family sedan. I fear they're well past the point of no return by now.

There can't be a point of no return. Even if it was long and complicated, there are too many vested interests in the system now to really call it a 'free' press.

NinjaDeathSlap:

Fappy:
I wish the fake Morgan Freeman quote that's been circulating Facebook was legit. In any case we haven't learned a damn thing since Columbine. The media is making all of the same errors all over again.

What is this quote? I don't care if it's not legit so long as it's apt.

Here is teh quote:

You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news.

No idea where it came from originally.

NinjaDeathSlap:

Fappy:
I wish the fake Morgan Freeman quote that's been circulating Facebook was legit. In any case we haven't learned a damn thing since Columbine. The media is making all of the same errors all over again.

What is this quote? I don't care if it's not legit so long as it's apt.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/17/3776418/fake-morgan-freeman-message-newtown-goes-viral

I think this is the one:

You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news.

Edit: Ninjad!

NinjaDeathSlap:

Fappy:
I wish the fake Morgan Freeman quote that's been circulating Facebook was legit. In any case we haven't learned a damn thing since Columbine. The media is making all of the same errors all over again.

What is this quote? I don't care if it's not legit so long as it's apt.

The quote, which was supposed to be "Morgan Freeman"s response to the cause of the recent school shooting is as follows


For some reason random ? have appeared in the quote, they are supposed to be '.

Don't worry Grey, you'll never be a real journalist in our hearts.

WaitWHAT:
I think I'll just leave this here:

Says it nicely, really.

This deserves a lot more attention. The problem isn't that the weapon of choice is prolific, it's that coverage like this makes the murderer into an anti-hero, glorified through notoriety for weeks on end. There will always be people with enough evil in their hearts to follow suit, and the promise of fame grows with each event.

On a side note, and despite the controversy, i have to say this. The killer went to an area filled with the weak and the helpless. What if they weren't? Should complexes that gather together the most vulnerable aspects of our society have no defense against assault?

I get both sides of the gun controversy, so I'll ask this. When has legal prohibition ever made something disappear?

(Claps) Well said, Mr. Grey.

It's shit like this that drives me further into fiction. Humanity better pray that I never get superpowers...

Couldn't have put it any better myself, you two.

But I don't hold out much hope for the States doing...well anything about the whole thing.

WaitWHAT:
I think I'll just leave this here:

Says it nicely, really.

This video. This is why the current media is pretty much horrible. When told that they need to change something because they are causing something else to happen, they ignore it in favor of getting people to watch them.

You're better than any "real" journalist I've seen.

I've been saying just about the same thing about this media circus for days now. All they ever do is exploit the people affected for ratings, all the while perpetuating the cycle of shootings like this one by glorifying the people responsible. And then these same "journalists" have the balls to blame other forms of media.

Bunch of freaking vultures.

Fappy:
I wish the fake Morgan Freeman quote that's been circulating Facebook was legit. In any case we haven't learned a damn thing since Columbine. The media is making all of the same errors all over again.

Well, the point is legit, and similar words have been said by various experts or commentators. But I guess if Morgan "God Almighty Himself" Freeman said it, it might actually get the point across to people.

Then again - let's not just blame the media: blame the consumers of the media. News outlets basically have to do whatever sells, and if people continue to consume kill counts and lurid cross-examinations of serial killers, then journalists are only going to continue to feed that demand.

I'm remanded of a line from a Star Trek novel that was said by Spock to his father, it went "If you are any example then being Vulcan is hardly a condition to be desired." Except in this case replace "Vulcan" with "a real journalist."

Are those Megyn Kelly and the brown-haired guy who's not Steve Doocy or who? Hm, maybe just "generic news vultures".

The image of a court jester miming a train wreck gave me paroxysms of laughter.

First panel of Erin .. adorable, I found it so cute!

On the other hand, yes I fully agree with the point of this comic- we're paying people to make mass murderers or anyone going on a rampage into celebrities. It's never about how the victims are, what we can do to help, or anything to ensure we move on- it's always focused on how many people died, what the killer was like and how he/she looks, and all the more dealing with the killer and, well, how many he/she killed 24/7 on the news.

Very apt comic especially the line beneath the panel talking about the state of mental healthcare in the USA

Agreed, the news should try covering the victims a bit more, without going too personal, instead of reciting statistics and the shoving killers face onto every screen.

I forget the show, Criminal Minds or NCIS, but me and my family had a good laugh when they treated an arsonist seeking attention by withholding his name and asking the news coverage to not show any pictures of him. It seems like the proper punishment.

If nobody highlights the issue, there will never be any change.

Not to say the satire/message of this comic is wrong (it's totally right, the press cover this stuff the wrong way), but I felt Erin wasn't really "in character" in this strip.

Keep up the good comics!

WaitWHAT:
I think I'll just leave this here:

Says it nicely, really.

The criminal psychologist at the end just owned every body. Even better is how right he is.

When I was little I wanted to be a journalist, that was until I grew up a bit an started looking more closely at this stuff journalists do.

I like how you depicted the reporters as monsters :)

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