Escape to the Movies: Zero Dark Thirty

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Zero Dark Thirty

MovieBob takes us behind the story behind the search for Bin Laden.

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We'll see how Pacific Rim goes over.

I'm predicting that this movie is going to win Movie of the Year at the Oscars. Maybe it's one of those movies that actually deserves it!

Unfortunately, it's going to look like I'm not going to be able to see it for a while as it's only in select theatres.

But there's the new Tom Cruise movie! *laugh track*

What did MovieBob tell us about Pacific Rim? WHAT DID HE SAY????

Well as much as I like Hellboy and Pan's Labyrinth and I havent seen all his movies yet, his other works that I did see kinda suck (like those horror films). Pacific Rim indeed looks like it will suck.
As for this film, welp I guessed he would gush about it. I really don't like the look of it so I'll just ignore it.

So glad this managed to get your seal of approval Movie Bob :)

Oddly I do remember where I was it was high school homeroom sophomore year I think. I thought they were going to send us home after what happened we didn't.

an unbiased account of the events leading to the death of bin laden made by hollywood?
call me skeptical

Weren't you going to tell us what 'too long' was this week?

jaded zombie:
an unbiased account of the events leading to the death of bin laden made by hollywood?
call me skeptical

well some folk have come out to say that some scenes were completely untrue so take that its based on "facts" with a grain of salt

Pacific Rim has GLaDOS, that in itself is a win.

Thank you for the review. You're actually the reason why I will see this movie. I thought it was going to be the tired and old stick of, lets glorify this. Do not care, and you change my mind on that. Well done. You keep giving reasons to watch. I wish you the best of luck with the horrible movies that are going to be coming out in January. Though atleast it gives you an excuse to do a, good movies you might of missed, episode.

Stoked to go see this one ASAP. The next few weeks are going to be awesome.

jaded zombie:
an unbiased account of the events leading to the death of bin laden made by hollywood?
call me skeptical

Well, the US military and government have already made it impossible to form any accurate account of the events by denying access to critical evidence, so I really doubt Hollywood could overcome that limitation.

Huh, hadn't even heard of that one... does seem impressive that it was made in the form that it was though.

4:28 "Told ya so"

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What exactly was I looking at? Some kind of sequel to Cloverfield or, is that something from the upcoming Godzilla? Or was that something completely different? I'm completely confused about what that could have possibly been other than some kind of Ginbu-made-movie-monster.

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I didn't know what this movie was at first but now I do. I don't plan to see it honestly...Just not my kind of thing. Looks interesting though.

So how's the shaky cam?

Because I remember it being annoying as hell in The Hurt Locker.

Thank Gods for new episode!

It will make my tommorow's pre-christmas shopping much more bearable.

Pacific Rim doesn't look great.

As for this, I dunno. Perhaps as a non-American I just won't get it, but it looks like the usual pro-America thing, even if that's not the intent. When you have two bad guys (and for a large part of the actual conflict, two equally unpopular guys) fighting, winning, or even how they got there, isn't especially captivating. Perhaps it's just too soon, events that not only happened in our lifetime, but actually within the last couple of years, are normally far more thrilling in life than on the big screen.

I found the hurt locker... frustrating. The subplot about the little girl was just baffling and frankly out of place. Are there any similar "What are they doing?!" moments in "Zero Dark Thirty"?

I expected this to be the too long movie you talked about during your review of the hobbit seems I was wrong.
So the main character is Maya,the one from persona 2 or ace attorney?
That was a joke btw.

I am wary to watch this because I loved the fact that The Hurt Locker did not really glamourise the soldiers and showed how depressing and nihilistic the whole war and situation was. Is it too much to hope that a movie that climaxes with an unarmed man who has not really done much for the last 10 years get double tapped in front of his family by a person just as brainwashed and indoctrinated as he is including the billions spent and thousands killed to get to this point, kinda I dunno, highlight that point? Too much to hope I bet. I saw the the killing of Bin Laden as less of a "fuck yeah" and more of a "fucking hell, so was it worth the cost?" Judging by the news I saw, very few people felt the same. I will love this movie if it remotely raises these points.

The hurt loker got a lot of praise too but i didn't find it special. Also the shaky cam made me nauseous.

What was last week too long movie?

I don't know. I'm sure the film is really well done, and the acting is top notch and everything, but I really didn't like the Hurt Locker. It was boring and really depressing. And from what you said about excruciating detail Bob, I probably won't like this one either. I'm going to give this one a pass. Maybe I'll rent it. I've got some Django and Les Mis to watch anyway this Christmas.

Just looks like the usual shameless triumphalism to me.

I never understand why America gets so "whoa yeah!" over victories in the "war" on "terror." Your country created these people. If anything films like should make Americans deeply embarrassed at how the only way they can obtain any measure of glory is by actually bothering to get round to cleaning up their own mess for once.

And there isn't even conclusive proof it was Bin Laden they actually killed. I mean who the hell dumps the body of the man they've been hunting for years into the ocean where no independent parties can get verification of the kill? That is assuming they even killed him, and that he didn't actually die years ago of a kidney illness and that the figure in those videos (which were always discovered at convenient times to rebuild support for the "war") wasn't actually a series of disguised agents (I mean seriously, Bin Laden seems to have had at least one nose job over the course of his time as a vigilante as he goes from looking like someone of Arabian descent to someone of clearly African American origins.)

I found the America Fuck Yeah! reaction to Bin Ladens execution to be both ironic and pretty disgusting. So the subject of this film immediately makes me wary but also taking into account how much I hated The Hurt Locker and well I don't think my interest in seeing this film could be lower.

Usually Bob giving this much praise would give me a slightly more positive outlook but I think I'll just wait a year or two until it's shown on tv.

jaded zombie:
an unbiased account of the events leading to the death of bin laden made by hollywood?
call me skeptical

Join me to the club. Anything done by them that is about the war on terror.

Alandoril:
Just looks like the usual shameless triumphalism to me.

I never understand why America gets so "whoa yeah!" over victories in the "war" on "terror." Your country created these people. If anything films like should make Americans deeply embarrassed at how the only way they can obtain any measure of glory is by actually bothering to get round to cleaning up their own mess for once.

And there isn't even conclusive proof it was Bin Laden they actually killed. I mean who the hell dumps the body of the man they've been hunting for years into the ocean where no independent parties can get verification of the kill? That is assuming they even killed him, and that he didn't actually die years ago of a kidney illness and that the figure in those videos (which were always discovered at convenient times to rebuild support for the "war") wasn't actually a series of disguised agents (I mean seriously, Bin Laden seems to have had at least one nose job over the course of his time as a vigilante as he goes from looking like someone of Arabian descent to someone of clearly African American origins.)

Bob goes out of his way to repeat that it is more documentary than propoganda; it ends on a good note, but it wasn't planned that way, and if you don't know the story you wouldn't see it coming.

And yes, American geopolitics led to the creation and funding of Al-Qaeda as a weapon to fight the Soviets, etc. Similarly, you could argue that the reluctance of the League of Nations to curtail the rise of national extremism in post-WWII Germany led directly to the Nazi Party. I think you are missing the point of the movie. (I'm Canadian, BTW)

And that last point? I'm not gonna touch it with an 11 foot pole, so I'll give you this to enjoy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden_conspiracy_theories

Alandoril:
Just looks like the usual shameless triumphalism to me.

I never understand why America gets so "whoa yeah!" over victories in the "war" on "terror." Your country created these people. If anything films like should make Americans deeply embarrassed at how the only way they can obtain any measure of glory is by actually bothering to get round to cleaning up their own mess for once.

And there isn't even conclusive proof it was Bin Laden they actually killed. I mean who the hell dumps the body of the man they've been hunting for years into the ocean where no independent parties can get verification of the kill? That is assuming they even killed him, and that he didn't actually die years ago of a kidney illness and that the figure in those videos (which were always discovered at convenient times to rebuild support for the "war") wasn't actually a series of disguised agents (I mean seriously, Bin Laden seems to have had at least one nose job over the course of his time as a vigilante as he goes from looking like someone of Arabian descent to someone of clearly African American origins.)

Did you even watch the review? He said it's simply a retelling of what happened, not some fuck ya we did it movie. He said that it's actually a pretty dark movie.

Honestly it just looks like you used this thread as an excuse to post your anti American views and your conspiracy theories. If you want to go throwing these opinions around, do it in the R&P section. Seriously, make a thread and use this exact post. I'll sit back and lol at the shitstorm.

Shoggoth2588:
4:28 "Told ya so"

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What exactly was I looking at? Some kind of sequel to Cloverfield or, is that something from the upcoming Godzilla? Or was that something completely different? I'm completely confused about what that could have possibly been other than some kind of Ginbu-made-movie-monster.

I too would like some insight on this image.

While we recognize that it was a big deal for you, and certainly an important event because of the fallout that it caused. The rest of the world does not remember 911. What I mean, is, the rest of the world has a lot of empathy for what was something really meek actually (Not saying that thousands of people dying is little, but it shocks Americans all the more because they are not accustomed to fighting or being attacked at home) but does not consider it a big deal by itself. Same thing with Bin Laden, even more so, perhaps. The fact that a world power with millions of military budget and who's constantly assassinating foreign figures and constantly at war, managed to make a hit on a target, it's not all that incredible. It's not like we think it isn't an achievement, it's just not something that we consider big. Like when you were in university and a friend of yours managed to buy a really sweet car. Good for you, nice car, I won't remember it a week from now.

Scrumpmonkey:
I found the hurt locker... frustrating. The subplot about the little girl was just baffling and frankly out of place. Are there any similar "What are they doing?!" moments in "Zero Dark Thirty"?

I'm with you on that one. The Hurt Locker got a whole tonne of praise heaped on it but all I saw was a jumbled, poorly paced mess of a film with no real direction. I didn't think it had anything to say about war, it just followed a bunch of dudes who happen to be in bomb disposal. It also featured quite possibly the worst case of Ralph Fiennes under-use that I have ever seen; the man's a genius.

Proverbial Jon:

Scrumpmonkey:
I found the hurt locker... frustrating. The subplot about the little girl was just baffling and frankly out of place. Are there any similar "What are they doing?!" moments in "Zero Dark Thirty"?

I'm with you on that one. The Hurt Locker got a whole tonne of praise heaped on it but all I saw was a jumbled, poorly paced mess of a film with no real direction. I didn't think it had anything to say about war, it just followed a bunch of dudes who happen to be in bomb disposal. It also featured quite possibly the worst case of Ralph Fiennes under-use that I have ever seen; the man's a genius.

The Oscars is Hollywood patting themselves in the back on how awesome they are at making movies, with added American Patriotism (too much of it for my liking).

Had to look who Ralph Fiennes was before I realised I've seen him in a lot of movies, but never could put a name to his face, plus he looks too much like the 9th Dr Who Christopher Eccleston lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_Doctor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Fiennes

I going to boycott this movie just because intelligence agencies asked the Obama Administration to hold of releasing key part of the raid so they could digest the intelligence gather and go after more terrorist. Instead they invited a bunch of Hollywood directors and told them classified information. That and they left Shakil Afridi, the doctor who provided the key intel that started the raid to rot in Pakistani Prison.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19554551

I believe this movie will get reactions from different demographics similar to The Hurt Locker. What I mean is that after reading a lot about it and talking to a lot of people (to include EOD) I found that:

-Civilians generally liked it.
-Military/defense personnel could like it if able to suspend disbelief
-EOD hated it (they couldn't get over some of the more unrealistic parts)

On that note, based on all I've heard about the movie so far, my prediction for Zero Dark Thirty is:

-Civilians will generally like it
-Military/defense personnel could like it if able to suspend disbelief
-Anyone in the intelligence community will hate it (they won't be able to get over some of the more unrealistic parts)

Of course, I could be wrong and hopefully the portrayal of intelligence work isn't as bad/inaccurate as the trailers make it out to seem, but being an OEF veteran I just can't bring myself to go watch any movies about the current wars (Restrepo, The Hurt Locker, etc)

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