The 50 Most Boring Opinions In Geek Culture - Part I

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Calling #1 now:

"The Star Wars prequel sucked and/or ruined the franchise!"

So far, I have only used 4 per the 25 that were presented.

I'm only 16% boring.

el_kabong:
So far, I have only used 4 per the 25 that were presented.

I'm only 16% boring.

so far.. there's still time! :D

50. What didn't help was that a LOT of stuff from the past 20 years has also tried to copy DBZ, unaware of what made it work. So far no series has even come CLOSE to matching it.

49. It's like reiterating that "Plan 9 is the best bad movie ever." We all know it, so it's redundant to say it.

48. True, people seem to forget CONTEXT

47. But they were still dumb

46. Didn't ruin them, but he didn't help

45. The Hobbit also lacks the scale of WW2. Plus having to use the questionable Lost Tales to pad out running time just makes they argument more obvious

44. Again, obvious and just done to death

43. See 44.

42. See 43

41. More like "Because JAPAN likes cutscenes they ruin games" Though no one has the balls to actually just ADMIT they're a bigot

40. No comment

39. See 42

38. Indeed

37. Still doesn't keep it from being true

36. Never heard that one

35. See 39

34. Dear lord Emmerich that movie was dumb

33. People need to get over this

32. Troopers, the ultimate in satire

31. See 35

30. Reminds me of how gutless the Academy is

29. And it still doesn't change that the Adam West Batman was not good on its own merits. It was liked because it was so BAD it was hilarious

28. Whatever

27. See 31

26. It's the new bullet time; overexposed

25. And it still doesn't change the fact that it's been floundering in terms of writing for a VERY long time now

I can't help but feel that Movie Bob is being just a little bit...ah...what's the word I'm looking for...judgmental? Yeah kind of. Also Movie Bob, a compliant being "boring" doesn't make it any less valid. I'm not going to shut up after we hit a magical number of times we're allowed to say something before it is deemed boring and generic.

Well here in South America, the Simpsons stopped being good after a strike at the translation studio that ended up with the firing of the whole cast except the Kent Brockman voice. So whether or not quality changed we still mark the "downfall" by that event here.

Personally the most boring geek opinions I hear are those "best games list" ones. Where people always pick the games we've heard EVERYONE else pick too. I'm always more interested in "alternative" list and picks from people who have played anything other than critical darlings.
"Oh, the best ps1 game in your list is metal gear solid/final fantasy VII? *SNORE*"

Wait, how Starship Troppers is better than the book ? I need people the explain that.

This article deserves all the slow claps. My only question is what 25 arguments could you possibly have up your sleeve that are more tired and less interesting than the ones listed here. I suppose I could think of a handful... 'George Lucas needs to leave Star Wars alone'; and 'The plot of 2012 is bullshit', but beyond that I'm struggling.

erttheking:
I can't help but feel that Movie Bob is being just a little bit...ah...what's the word I'm looking for...judgmental? Yeah kind of. Also Movie Bob, a compliant being "boring" doesn't make it any less valid. I'm not going to shut up after we hit a magical number of times we're allowed to say something before it is deemed boring and generic.

There is a point behind it. If you want to make a point, you only start hurting your own cause after you've made it so many times that people are just going to resent it.

NinjaDeathSlap:

erttheking:
I can't help but feel that Movie Bob is being just a little bit...ah...what's the word I'm looking for...judgmental? Yeah kind of. Also Movie Bob, a compliant being "boring" doesn't make it any less valid. I'm not going to shut up after we hit a magical number of times we're allowed to say something before it is deemed boring and generic.

There is a point behind it. If you want to make a point, you only start hurting your own cause after you've made it so many times that people are just going to resent it.

Sorry, but I refuse to keep my mouth shut about an opinion just because a million other people think it. They probably think it for a reason.

#35 is actually kind of important. It's similar to the outcry over SOPA earlier this year and the effect that that had to stop the passage of the bill. Or even the supreme court's ruling that games are in fact art. As long as politicians don't let this topic go, neither should geek culture. Oh sure it's a boring and pointless argument, but as long as it's attacked, we need to defend it.

Opinion is a great thing. I've heard every one has some sort of opinion about things. Good to see your opinions Bob.

Well, that was boring.

I didnt know that Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemption and Forrest Gump were both up for the same Oscar. That must have been a crazy year

Shameless:
Wait, how Starship Troppers is better than the book ? I need people the explain that.

Both are great, I loved the book. But its so much different. They fight the same bugs, but where the movie is more propaganda the book deals with citizenship and responsibility to the goverment

29. The Adam West Batman made everyone stop taking comics seriously.

People actually say this? Who and what color is the rock they live under? People never took comics seriously. They were entertainment for children. The idea that adults read that stuff is a relatively new thing, although it's a movement that started as far back as the 60's.

This statement is so incorrect that it baffles me. I mean griping about the Adam West series is boring and overdone, but that causation is attributed to it is just plain wrong. The series didn't cause people to stop taking comics seriously. People didn't take comic book super heroes seriously and when they made the series, this was the format they went with.

Chances are, the series got made because theater owners took to running old serials, including the old Batman serials. The audience was laughing at how corny these things were. I mean, just look:

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It probably didn't take long for the rights holder to catch wind of this and pitch the idea of a Batman television series that was a comedy.

Another factor was how the comics code authority defanged the comics industry when it was under threat of being censored by the government. If that had happened, it would have been bad, but the CCA did it's own damage that removed all possibility of comics being anything but pap for kids. The entirety of the 50's was this kind of safe crap. To blame that on a tangential television show rather than the other way around is ridiculous.

41. Cutscenes ruin videogames and are unnecessary.

No, bad cutscenes do that. Used properly, cutscenes can be a nice reward, a good way to expand a story or (at worst) a harmless auteur indulgence. It's been argued that cutscenes make games "impure" by injecting a passive art form (movies) into an interactive one. I wonder if people who think so also object to movies being made impure by the occasional inclusion of songs.

Is like it wass copied from a post i made when it was posted here that Guillermo del toro didn't like cutscenes in games. I didn't know it was a comun argument.

31. There are no good videogame movies because _____.

Whaat!? Not any more, Silent Hill Revelations dude.

Three of the most boring opinions in my little corner of fandom are:

1. Neon Genesis Evangelion is a dumb show / Shinji Ikari is an annoying character

2. Visual novels are just weird, Japanese porn

3. The Warhammer 40k universe takes itself too seriously

Those are obscure enough that I doubt Bob will include them, though I run into them constantly. I could maybe see him including

1. The Matrix sequels ruined a great franchise

2. Metroid: Other M was bad because it was sexist

3. WRPGs are better than JRPGs because they give you choices and don't have anime characters

4. Final Fantasy VII is the best game ever (though that might contradict number 44)

5. LARPers are horrible weirdos

6. Batman is better when he's portrayed "realistically"

7. Alan Moore is a saintlike genius and everything he says is unquestionably true

Oh, and one that personally bugs the hell out of me from hearing it so many times

1. Final Fantasy XIII was the worst game ever because it was linear, overlong, and narratively confusing

(also, there's a deleted scene explaining that the virus worked because our computers had been reverse-engineered from the Area 51 spacecraft)

Really? Ugh. Ruined my day (hellfire not withstanding). Not that the movie was great anyway, but... Really?

I think my biggest movie pet-pieve is when I find out a director or editor has cut a piece out of the film that actually would have made it better, usually for stupid reasons like pacing or momentum.

Like in The Terminator where Sarah runs away from Reese and they end up by a creek, establishing the only scene in the film that would have taken place in a non-urban setting, and Michael Biehn gets a monologue about what's really at stake and a crying close-up that probably could have helped his non-Cameron career.

Or even in Star Wars, there was (what I think is) a much better introduction to Luke that showed him in his natural habitat and what type of person he was when interacting with non-androids-or-space-adventurers. That scene also had a set-up for Biggs (that dude on Yavin that Luke gets all hot in his pants to see, then who dies a few minutes later and you're left thinking "Was I supposed to care about that guy? Could have used a pre-third act introduction.)

Also, that scene in The Sixth Sense where Bruce Willis uses his ghost powers to walk through the walls of a jail to break that kid out, and he has to shoot ectoplasm out of his eyes to fend off the guards, and then they fly over the... k that may have been a smart cut.

Point is, it's critic pandering. Most of your audience does not give a shit about pacing. Half of them probably don't even know what that is. It wasn't worth the trade.

I wonder if that's a boring opinion.

Opinions are like assholes... just full of shit.

If this comment section takes off, it is going to be a bloodbath.

Mark D. Stroyer:
Calling #1 now:

"The Star Wars prequel sucked and/or ruined the franchise!"

Totally agree with this one. The movies weren't that bad, except for kid Anakin, they were just disappointing compared to the originals. Also, "Half-life was the best thing since Jesus." The Half-life series are good games, but they do not need to be number one on every single top ten video games list. And the "Violent video games do not cause violent behavior" opinion. It may be true, but nobody makes that argument because they did the research and came to this conclusion independently. They make that argument because because they feel a tribal instinct to defend video games like it's their child.

31. There are no good videogame movies because _____.

The definition of the talked-to-death topic. Until someone makes the good videogame movie, no one needs to hash this out again. Seriously, find something else to theorize about.

Uh, what?
Street Fighter is a good movie. Mortal Kombat (not Annihilation, though. Oh, god no) is a good movie.
See, they might not be A-movies, but they are excellent B-movies. And they aren't bad B-movies either. They aren't the Shark Boy/Lavagirl B-Movies. They are hammy, over-the-top melodramatic, major over-acting awesomeoness, and has some very classy actors (Chritopher Lambert as Rayden, Raul Julia as Bison) in odd roles, which adds to the joy of watching them just play with the characters and go wild with the setting.

Here's a nice XKCD chart: image

So no, I disagree. There are good videogame movies. They just aren't A-list.

Ironically, that episode (Principal and Pauper) is about where I stopped watching the Simpsons (lol).

omegawyrm:

Final Fantasy VII is the best game ever (though that might contradict number 44)

You forgot: FFVII is the most overrated game ever!

That's a popular and boring argument (that is also completely wrong for many reasons).

Realitycrash:
Mortal Kombat (not Annihilation, though. Oh, god no) is a good movie.
See, they might not be A-movies, but they are excellent B-movies.

Here here. Any movie with a soundtrack that still gets people pumped 20 years on is definitely noteworthy.

Also, some pretty awesome cinematography - especially for Scorpion and Sub-Zero.

A list of the most boring over talked opinions on the internet, being over talked about in the most boring manner possible. Most of those points are just Bob's opinions stamped with the mark "We are done talking about this!" Like someone saying "this conversation is over" when you are about to make your counter argument. I am not trying to actively figure out if the Starship Troopers film is better than the book (The Forever War shits on both) I just want to have a nice bit of discourse with my mates over some beers and enjoy sharing a passionate opinion over something that ultimately doesn't matter. It's the corner stone of geekdom and I'll be DAMNED if you try and take it away from me.

s69-5:

omegawyrm:

Final Fantasy VII is the best game ever (though that might contradict number 44)

You forgot: FFVII is the most overrated game ever!

That's a popular and boring argument (that is also completely wrong for many reasons).

I'll give you that one, the counterpoint is important.

s69-5:
Ironically, that episode (Principal and Pauper) is about where I stopped watching the Simpsons (lol).

omegawyrm:

Final Fantasy VII is the best game ever (though that might contradict number 44)

You forgot: FFVII is the most overrated game ever!

That's a popular and boring argument (that is also completely wrong for many reasons).

What does 'most overrated' even mean, though? What are the standards? Common consensus? Metacritic-score compared to number of players?

Realitycrash:

s69-5:
Ironically, that episode (Principal and Pauper) is about where I stopped watching the Simpsons (lol).

omegawyrm:

Final Fantasy VII is the best game ever (though that might contradict number 44)

You forgot: FFVII is the most overrated game ever!

That's a popular and boring argument (that is also completely wrong for many reasons).

What does 'most overrated' even mean, though? What are the standards? Common consensus? Metacritic-score compared to number of players?

Ask someone who actually uses that argument?
They are plentiful around here...

s69-5:

Realitycrash:

s69-5:
Ironically, that episode (Principal and Pauper) is about where I stopped watching the Simpsons (lol).

You forgot: FFVII is the most overrated game ever!

That's a popular and boring argument (that is also completely wrong for many reasons).

What does 'most overrated' even mean, though? What are the standards? Common consensus? Metacritic-score compared to number of players?

Ask someone who actually uses that argument?
They are plentiful around here...

Perhaps it means 'perceived cultural impact of a game on the videogame-medium, as compared to actual impact'. If so, I'd say Wii is overrated.

funksobeefy:
I didnt know that Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemption and Forrest Gump were both up for the same Oscar. That must have been a crazy year

Shameless:
Wait, how Starship Troppers is better than the book ? I need people the explain that.

Both are great, I loved the book. But its so much different. They fight the same bugs, but where the movie is more propaganda the book deals with citizenship and responsibility to the goverment

I thought it was the other way around for Starship Troopers? The book was all about sayin how much better life would be in a fascist society where the only people who were allowed to have opinions are those who serve their planet. The movie makes a point to show how fuckin terrible that idea is.

Some predictions:

* George Lucas is evil (so guaranteed to be number one, I bet he'll bump it down the list just to surprise people).
* JRPGs are not real games.
* Video games are sexist/male-centric.
* People on Xbox Live are dicks.
* EA/Activision is evil.
* Hatred of Twilight, Nickelback, Big Bang Theory, Call of Duty, insert other popular things with a huge divide between mainstream and "geek" opinion here.
* Indie games are pretentious.
* Where is Half-Life (Episode) III?
* Casual/Facebook games/Angry Birds are evil.
* The book was better.
* MTV doesn't play music any more.

AlexanderPeregrine:
Some predictions:

* George Lucas is evil (so guaranteed to be number one, I bet he'll bump it down the list just to surprise people).
* JRPGs are not real games.
* Video games are sexist/male-centric.
* People on Xbox Live are dicks.
* EA/Activision is evil.
* Hatred of Twilight, Nickelback, Big Bang Theory, Call of Duty, insert other popular things with a huge divide between mainstream and "geek" opinion here.
* Indie games are pretentious.
* Where is Half-Life (Episode) III?
* Casual/Facebook games/Angry Birds are evil.
* MTV doesn't play music any more.
* The book was better.

Actually a while ago on twitter he said his number one was going to be

don't know if he'll stick to that though

Machine Man 1992:

Aiddon:

41. More like "Because JAPAN likes cutscenes they ruin games" Though no one has the balls to actually just ADMIT they're a bigot

Fuck you. You're basically Bob; a complete japanophile who takes "I don't like Japanese games" as a sign of racism.

There are plenty of reasons to not like Japanese games: the heavy cutscene to gameplay ratio, the annoying anime stereotypes, the complete lack of subtlety, the ridiculous art design (though not always the case) and I'm sure dozens of other reasons someone who regularly plays games from japan can post.

So stop projecting so hard.

It sounds like you're somewhat bigoted sir. Are you only referring to shitty JRPG's? (Baiscally not made by ATLUS or Monolith)
Since I don't see Mario, Megaman or Dark Souls having plenty of cut scenes.

Also Japanese games usually have better art design than western games, sure Bioshock and Fallout have a nice 50's aesthetic, but western games tend to look very alike, especially the First Person Shooters.

Okami looks like a umi-e painting, Paper Mario has the paper aesthetic and all 3D Zeldas ignoring Majora's Mask have a different look that you can identify each game with a glance.

Also games in general aren't very subtle, perhaps due to how game design forces things to be obvious. So that always applies to non-Japanese games.

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