Most Boring Opinions in Geek Culture - Part II

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erttheking:

You see, in America we have a saying "I disagree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it." If you really disagree with someone, debate with them, try to convince them of your point of thinking, don't throw up your hands like Moviebob and say "I don't agree with you, shut up," come on.

So this is what it means to be an American? why i dont see that more often instead of the usual "everything is subjective" or "your opinion is worth a damn because i say so"? One would think that such way of living would have been adopted by everyone but it seems that fighting to death is just too difficult for the mayority.

Shame.

Also, insulting someone and telling them to "grow the fuck up" because they had the audacity to disagree with you isn't going to win you any supporters.

I cannot believe that dissagreing is something that can be considered as an "audacity". I guess that people DO expect to be submisse and take it in the ass like an abused wife.

Vault101:

Bhaalspawn:

After the last three years of this bullshit, it's finally become objective fact: Gamers are self-entitled little bastards who frankly don't deserve jack shit. And any mocking Moviebob does of them on his web show now or in the future will be entirely justified.

while I can sort of agree in some ways (particually the priacy thing or waaa!! games are too expensive!) I don't belive bullshit anti-consumer stuff like DRM ect should be excused (also although its not a sold fact you can't tell me they wouldn't gut the origial product to sell the organs as DLC if they could..which they can)

when ME the paying customer who never pirates because I think piracy is fucking wrong, is being punished while the pirate gets away scot free...then we have a problem

EDIT: oh and keep your nasty sweeping statments to youself please, just because you found some people on the internet annoying

Interestingly enough, i only complained on having endings on DLC rather than the game proper. I guess its my fault as a writer for not filling the obvious details......or is the audience itself that its jumping to the wrong conclusions???

JellySlimerMan:

Interestingly enough, i only complained on having endings on DLC rather than the game proper. I guess its my fault as a writer for not filling the obvious details......or is the audience itself that its jumping to the wrong conclusions???

1. you quoted the wrong person in the first half

2. having the ending on DLC isn't exactly common practice (well unless you count having a DLC that continues on from the main story) in an ideal world the ending of mass effect would have been fine originally...however that didn;t hapepn.I am grateful there was a DLC that "fixed"[1] what we got originally and it was free so unless you unfortunately can't spare the download data I'd hardly call it an example of bad DLC practice

[1] depending on who you ask

JellySlimerMan:
yet another epic wall of text

o.0 damn dood 0.o your a wordy one aren't.

anyway, didn't a bunch of people get refunds? like a LOT of people, i don't have an of those numbers, but i do remember hearing about that, but i guess you have a point there, more depressingly it would probably do well case people are stupid, but even in your example i doubt the 'ME3 lessons' will be remembered, these publishers don't really care about the 'fan uproar' the low quality of the ME3 'fix' is proof of that

i assume your referring to .Hack, Xenosaga, Digital Devil Saga, the first two Shadow Hearts to a degree, Zone of the Enders, to stretch it a bit more, Metal Gear, who's story spanned console generations and a few others that escape me (aside the for mentioned compressed awesome of LoK of course)

and why do you keep going back to 'ME3 could have been proof of gaming as an art-form' we have other, better games that already do that, games that no one pays attention to due to age. wouldn't it be better to point at the older games that fit this quality as a way of saying 'we've always been doing this' then just defending the few modern titles that meet this standard. If your going to go on about games as an art-form then we as a whole need to stop JUST pointing out the modern titles

I don't recall the uproar over those games being nearly as pervasive, or happening at all in PoP's case.

Vault101:

JellySlimerMan:

Interestingly enough, i only complained on having endings on DLC rather than the game proper. I guess its my fault as a writer for not filling the obvious details......or is the audience itself that its jumping to the wrong conclusions???

1. you quoted the wrong person in the first half

2. having the ending on DLC isn't exactly common practice (well unless you count having a DLC that continues on from the main story) in an ideal world the ending of mass effect would have been fine originally...however that didn;t hapepn.I am grateful there was a DLC that "fixed"[1] what we got originally and it was free so unless you unfortunately can't spare the download data I'd hardly call it an example of bad DLC practice

Why every person on the planet assumes i am talking about ME3?? apparently people forgot that Azura's Wrath and FFXIII-2 existed and are ACTUAL examples of this. ME3 has nothing to do with this because the game was "complete" when released, it had a complete plot.......with issues, lots of issues.

[1] depending on who you ask

JellySlimerMan:
Imagine for example, that ME3 always gives the bad ending (regardless of your EMS of whatever you do in that game only) UNLESS you played ALL the other games to perfection. EA would love this idea because this will allows them to drain even MORE money from the players who were naive enough to think that they could play the last entry alone and still win, because the exciting stuff is always at the end of the trilogy.

That doesn't make any sense. It would reduce sales, because instead of going back and buying the previous games, most people would just not buy the new one. Your proposal is the opposite of how most game companies think. They want new customers, they don't just want to serve the existing fan base.

Lunar Templar:

o.0 damn dood 0.o your a wordy one aren't.

anyway, didn't a bunch of people get refunds? like a LOT of people, i don't have an of those numbers, but i do remember hearing about that, but i guess you have a point there, more depressingly it would probably do well case people are stupid, but even in your example i doubt the 'ME3 lessons' will be remembered, these publishers don't really care about the 'fan uproar' the low quality of the ME3 'fix' is proof of that

If someone could get the actual numbers it would help. But since the "haters" are a "vocal minority", i would say that the numbers didnt diminished.

Yes, they didnt care because the sales were already high in the sky, and i believe they DID satisfy the fans by listening to their uproar.........they satisfied the fans that have very easy needs that is. Most people played for the characters and the relationships, so its easy to assume that they were pleased with seeing the Relays fixed and their love interests alive and having babies of something. They are not THAT stupid when you can see that they know how to manipulate people's strings.

i assume your referring to .Hack, Xenosaga, Digital Devil Saga, the first two Shadow Hearts to a degree, Zone of the Enders, to stretch it a bit more, Metal Gear, who's story spanned console generations and a few others that escape me (aside the for mentioned compressed awesome of LoK of course)

Yes and no. I know Metal Gear and Lok and i can tell you that they do not do what ME did. Whatever you do in those games (little and big things) are not reflected in other games. They just play out the same way regardless of how you played. A shame really, since Legacy of Kain could have benefited from that. Think about it, Raziel is the only one with Free Will, that means he COULD have made large changes that the developers could have reflected in the timeline shown in later games, but we didnt have that sadly.

Still, i insist that there were games like ME did before.

and why do you keep going back to 'ME3 could have been proof of gaming as an art-form' we have other, better games that already do that, games that no one pays attention to due to age. wouldn't it be better to point at the older games that fit this quality as a way of saying 'we've always been doing this' then just defending the few modern titles that meet this standard. If your going to go on about games as an art-form then we as a whole need to stop JUST pointing out the modern titles

I don't recall the uproar over those games being nearly as pervasive, or happening at all in PoP's case.

I come back to see if people really believe that ME INVENTED the concept of carring your saved games thorough other games of the series. And thus, they defend it zealously for being "one of a kind" sort off stuff.

JellySlimerMan:

Why every person on the planet assumes i am talking about ME3?? apparently people forgot that Azura's Wrath and FFXIII-2 existed and are ACTUAL examples of this. ME3 has nothing to do with this because the game was "complete" when released, it had a complete plot.......with issues, lots of issues.

well...mabye you should have said? because when "ending in DLC" comes up ME3 is going to be the first thing I think of because it was such an issue int he first place

I don't even know what we are talking about and I wasn't arguing with you in the first place...so good day

Aardvaarkman:

JellySlimerMan:
Imagine for example, that ME3 always gives the bad ending (regardless of your EMS of whatever you do in that game only) UNLESS you played ALL the other games to perfection. EA would love this idea because this will allows them to drain even MORE money from the players who were naive enough to think that they could play the last entry alone and still win, because the exciting stuff is always at the end of the trilogy.

That doesn't make any sense. It would reduce sales, because instead of going back and buying the previous games, most people would just not buy the new one. Your proposal is the opposite of how most game companies think. They want new customers, they don't just want to serve the existing fan base.

With the marketing that ME3 had, and how streamlined are the RPG elements that scared people away, i believe that it was the intention at hand. Most of the features in ME3 (that we have right not, not my hyphotetical scenerio) have some dependency on the shit you did in the other games. Sure, most of your squadmates end up being replaced by a suspicious identical substitute, but dont do as well. Not that the newcomers know any of that, of course :D

Lets not forget that multiplayer is in the 3rd game, and if EA wanted too, they could have convinced the new audience that they could get more competitive adventaje if they import weapons of the old games.

"everyone is doing right now!! (bandwagon fallacy) dont you want to be better and stronger than your friends?? do you really want to look lame in a converzation without knowing what they say?? our games are the most played in the HARCORE community, arent you harcore little boy??"

24. Family Guy sucked after Season 3.

Bob feels that Family Guy was only ever okay when he draws a lot of his delivery from it? Weird.

23. Batman is the most relatable superhero because he has no powers.

I always found it weird that Batman is considered to have no powers, especially since they've had him physically hang with veritable GODS.

I won't even touch relatability.

22. CGI has ruined the movies.

ANY "ruined X forever" needs to be put out to pasture. Or put down.

20. "One More Day" ruined Spider-Man forever.

This one I wanted to address specifically. Spider-Man has always had bad plots from time to time. They usually get retconned. Also, they've been trying to break up Peter and MJ for as long as I've been alive. They've even "killed" her at least once.

One More Day was stupid. It is not the first or last stupid Spider-Man story.

4. Dubbing a foreign language game/movie/anime ruins it.

If any element of it "ruins" it, it's the half-assed approach to dubbing. Still, "ruins" is too extreme.

2. That Nicolas Cage sure acts weird in a lot of movies.

Nicholas Cage does not act. I'm not even sure he can.

JellySlimerMan:

erttheking:

You see, in America we have a saying "I disagree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it." If you really disagree with someone, debate with them, try to convince them of your point of thinking, don't throw up your hands like Moviebob and say "I don't agree with you, shut up," come on.

So this is what it means to be an American? why i dont see that more often instead of the usual "everything is subjective" or "your opinion is worth a damn because i say so"? One would think that such way of living would have been adopted by everyone but it seems that fighting to death is just too difficult for the mayority.

Shame.

Also, insulting someone and telling them to "grow the fuck up" because they had the audacity to disagree with you isn't going to win you any supporters.

I cannot believe that dissagreing is something that can be considered as an "audacity". I guess that people DO expect to be submisse and take it in the ass like an abused wife.

Vault101:

Bhaalspawn:

After the last three years of this bullshit, it's finally become objective fact: Gamers are self-entitled little bastards who frankly don't deserve jack shit. And any mocking Moviebob does of them on his web show now or in the future will be entirely justified.

while I can sort of agree in some ways (particually the priacy thing or waaa!! games are too expensive!) I don't belive bullshit anti-consumer stuff like DRM ect should be excused (also although its not a sold fact you can't tell me they wouldn't gut the origial product to sell the organs as DLC if they could..which they can)

when ME the paying customer who never pirates because I think piracy is fucking wrong, is being punished while the pirate gets away scot free...then we have a problem

EDIT: oh and keep your nasty sweeping statments to youself please, just because you found some people on the internet annoying

Interestingly enough, i only complained on having endings on DLC rather than the game proper. I guess its my fault as a writer for not filling the obvious details......or is the audience itself that its jumping to the wrong conclusions???

I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused with how you're wording this. What are you trying to say?

Getting REALLLLYYYYY tired of people continuing to rib on Sonic and completely ignoring that the series has been out of it's slump for several years now and ignore that two pretty good games and one absolutely fantastic one have come out recently.

Darth Pope:
Getting REALLLLYYYYY tired of people continuing to rib on Sonic and completely ignoring that the series has been out of it's slump for several years now and ignore that two pretty good games and one absolutely fantastic one have come out recently.

The joke has been going on for so long people don't want to let it die.

Timothy Dalton was awesome. And I don't know how you can say "most" of his outings were forgettable when he only had two outings. The Living Daylights has one of the best beginnings and one of, if not the best, bond-car chase scenes in the series. And License to Kill is actually a reasonably sophisticated espionage/action film even.

The problem with the Dalton films is the tonal shift that occurred after the Moore era. In the Dalton films the series attempted to grapple with the decline of the soviet union and tried to get away from the megalomaniacal madmen and criminal megaconspiracies of the previous films/books; disavowing the absurdist heights reached in the late Connery movies and that the Moore movies turned into a fun, if repetitive, formulae.

The result is a far more grounded Soviet political conspiracy of 'The Living Daylights' which after a great start descends into what admittedly feels like bad Le Carre novel. Initially it feels more of a direct sequel to From Russia with Love with reports of that "Smert Spirnov" (Death to Spies) program being resurrected by the Soviets. This all leads to a tense and thrilling opening in Soviet Europe and a feeling that had it remained there we could have has something great. Unfortunately The Living Daylights fails to focus on the political intrigue of Glasnost and Perestroika, instead transplanting the movie to the then topical Soviet-Afghanistan conflict for a nonsensical drugs for diamonds plot.

License to Kill, however, is great. Many claim that it doesn't feel enough like Bond. I contend that this is because it's the only Bond after 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' and before the reboot 'Casino Royal' to inject Bond with humanity and pathos. We get a mention of James Bond's dead wife and his best friend's wife is murdered and his friend brutally maimed resulting in Bond's personal and unsanctioned crusade against a narcotics megasyndicate.

The violence is also unflinchingly graphic as compared to the previous films rather bloodless outings, and the Big Bad acts the most rationally and makes the most real-world sense out of all of the foes that Bond has faced. No, the film doesn't "feel" like a Bond film. But 'Casino Royal' took a darker more realistic turn and people love that. Perhaps it's because Dalton's bond actually feels like an empathetic human-being rather than the slick and "charming" psychopath that he is in 'Casino Royal' and everywhere else. Or perhaps it's because Dalton's Bond didn't follow an absolute disaster like 'Die Another Day'.

No. Pierce Brosnan was the worst. After 'Golden Eye', which was good to sorta-okay, there was the average but fun 'Tomorrow Never Dies', the below mediocre 'The World Is Not Enough', and the execrable/hilariously-bad 'Die Another Day'. I don't know how to critique 'Die Another Day'. Every element feels like a parody of itself, which I guess must be intentional but feels like the producers laughing at, rather than with, the audience. Even if you remove the awful CGI Arctic-surfing scene, Madonna's bizzare cameo, the little to far-fetched invisible car, and John Cleese's painful turn as 'R', the only way that the 'Die Another Day's plot could make sense is in a Japanese video-game universe. Probably a Hideo Kojima Metal Gear Solid plot.

Anyway. Those are my feelings, make of them what you will.

Bhaalspawn:

"Did mean old EA close Bullfrog?"

Old or new, its the same entity using the same tactics. Why fix what isnt broken?

"Are you not allowed to swear at Anita Sarkesian without someone calling out your asshole behavior?"

You are assuming that those people complaining about her are: A)Gamers, B)Males, C)Mysoginists.

In order for that to happen you will need know if (AND ONLY IF):

1)Those werent people that knew her stuff looong before she decided to open her comments in that video alone, and wanted to make an statement (that will eventually be ignored in favor of the "get in the kitchen" ones). Because if you havent noticed, she does the same as you, where you control what comments are worth staying on the video. And just like you, she has some twisted sense of what is "trolling" and what is "legitimate criticism".

2)Those werent people who dislike her for her pathetic "research" of OTHER medias (music, tv series, movies, and so on) compared to the few videos that she had on videogames. One was for Bayonetta (and she took it down. It was rescued by other people), one was for Non violent videogames, another for "too many dicks" on games, and the kickstarter. So only 2 videos of videogames before the infamous kickstarter video out of 33 videos in total. There is a larger chance that it was other people rather than actual gamers.

3)Those werent females that were (and still are) pissed off at this feminist for consider even the most minute thing sexist regardless of context. And for "defending" them in the worst way possible like if women were childs incapable of having opinions or free will.

4)Those werent trolls that were lured by the video spamming in 4Chan of her Kickstarter. Trolls troll everyone, religions, people, ideas even themselves. They use any way nessesary but most of them are so pity that even The Grinch would laught at.

5)All the comments on the video were harmful from the VERY BEGINNING. After all, if the audience of that video really is going to try to stop her for ulterior motives, rather than using logic and arguments to ilustrate how stupid the whole ordeal is, then we would all be assholes that have nothing to do but to flame and troll a video on videogames. Infact, i would like to see a full video (i dont care how long it takes, 20 min? 40 min?) of someone scrolling EVERY COMMENT on that video to make it visible for everyone what it was said and what date they have. So we can also compare if its the same date as the videos posted on 4Chan. Lets see how depraved are the gamers that posted on that video and how many comments are there that CLEARLY shows that the mayority of commenters are mysoginists!

But hey, i guess its more easy to use a "poison the well fallacy" and say that all gamers are assholes right?? and that is why you and Bob are mysoginist assholes.

Hmm..?? say what? you are not an asshole?? but.....i dont understand, you say that all gamers are assholes and you and bob are gamers, right?? there is clearly nothing in between.

Just as how Anita cant generalize a whole medium as sexist without context or proper research, and nor can she said that all the "attackers" of her Kickstarter are mysoginist male gamers....

...you, Bhallspawn, also cant generalize and call ALL gamers assholes or "entitled" as you did in this video:

Sure, take the worst of something and make it the center of attention until it can be discredited or outlawed. That is how you solve a problem, right?

"Are you torn between being a fan of something and a supporter of something else that is only related to it in a broad conspiracy theory?"

I dont see how me being a fan of books relates to my observations of the gaming medium. Games are art, right? doesnt that mean that one must analize them for that? or at least see if they are worth my time and money when its a new medium that i am experiencing?

Also, when crap like the "Adverticement during the gameplay" that Sony wanted to do was about to be greenlighted like it was just another day in the office, i doubt that its a crazy conspiracy.

"Are a bunch of pretentious fuckwads using games to express the fact they're pretentious fuckwads?"

Are you talking about Movie Bro CIRCA "Heavens to Metroid" or the creator of Fez??

"Is the reality of "Supply and Demand" and "Free Market" skirting by your infant mind?"

You mean this? at 10:57:

Is that supposed to be a argument in favor of people wanting better writing in their entertaiment? because if Bioware doesnt care to bring the quality that it was expected since Baldur's Gate or even Dragon Age Origins, then other people in the market will take care of it. I dont see the problem when the system works just fine. But we do see a problem when we get a malfuctioning product that doesnt acomplish its primary function but we cant say anything about it because "that is what it was intented all along".

"Get over it"

When i walk into the street and get robbed and punched in the face until i bleed, i am not entitled for protection from the goverment?? i am a whiny person for demanding security for me, and by extension everyone else? I CAN get over it but whatever emotion i have over the issue doesnt change it at all because, and this may come as a surprice to you, getting punched and robbed........is bad.

I know, quite shocking indeed. And that is terrible.

Same for being exploited by an industry that not only is so incompetent in making decent products, but also PROUD of their fuck ups that its quite an bafling. Here is an example:

The original model of the PSP had buttons too close to the screen, so the Einsteins at Sony moved over the switch for the square button, without moving the location of the button itself. Thus every PSP had an unresponsive square button that would also often stick. Note that the square button is the second-most important face button on the controller, right before X; in other words, it's used constantly during the action in most games. Sony president Ken Kutaragi confirmed that this was intentional. ACTUAL QUOTE:

Ken Kutaragi: I believe we made the most beautiful thing in the world. Nobody would criticize a renowned architect's blueprint that the position of a gate is wrong. It's the same as that.

http://kotaku.com/111634/ken-kutaragi-misunderstood-or-just-nuts
http://www.industrygamers.com/galleries/video-game-executives-say-the-craziest-things/14/
http://www.gamespot.com/news/gamers-report-psp-malfunction-6116985

How about dear old EA?: The process of installing Battlefield 3, for example, can be used as argument as to why EA should ditch its Origin platform (which people have accused of acting like spyware in addition to its design flaws) and go back to Steam, or copy Steam blatantly. The first is that Origin treats installing from a DVD as "downloading" the game, which feels kind of odd when you can't pause and resume it. The second is you cannot quit Origin while downloading and installing an update, which is something Steam can do. If you want to run the game, you also need to logon to their Battle Log website. And lastly, if this is a clean install, you have to install a plugin for your browser so the website can launch the game (which sounds kind of fishy). But overall, you do not launch Battlefield 3 from Origin, you launch it from the Battlelog website. Which also has the side effect of "you don't have internet connection? Too bad! You're not playing BF3".

They KNOW they can get away with it, it happened before and will happen again, and I am an entitled conspiracy theorist?? Sure little Bhall. Go sit down over there >> and think on what you did, young man!

If i were you, i will abuse the fact that you look like Orlando Bloom and make a carreer out of your looks rather than your......arguing talents.

I don't get #3. Did you only read stories with time loops, or are you insinuating that superhero comics don't also tell the same stories again and again? Like every medium? It IS better to do that without the convoluted continuity and changes in authors and artists, and I think there are standout comics that distance themselves from that mess.

GunsmithKitten:
To those of you denying Bob's point on Manga, got two words for you....

TENCHI MUYO.

Because one example proves an animation style with over 5000 series. That makes sense...

versus Outlaw Star, Cowboy Bebop, Witch Hunter Robin, Blood+... and that's just the first page of my anime binder...

OT: Every day that you make money for this Bob makes me weep for humanity.

JellySlimerMan:
snip.

actually the .Hack and Xenosaga games did the 'carry over your save' thing to, Digital Devil Saga sorta did, you got a stat boost depending on how many of the skills you mastered for that character. though none come to mind that are 'choose your own adventure' style games, none that aren't bioware games anyway, not that i expect people to remember the last console generation :/

hmm ... I see where your going with that, but at the same time, don't think id work, by the time he finally figured all that out there was really only one choice open to him. It would need to be rewritten so he figured out he's 'freedom' much sooner then he did, though i feel the story just fine as is, if i didn't i would keep siting it as the 'best written/acted series in gaming'

erttheking:

I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused with how you're wording this. What are you trying to say?

That i dont see many people doing the "I disagree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.". They just SHOUT VERY LOUD LIKE A BARKING CHIHUAHUA and expect the "dissagreing bastard" to just shut up at once.

I guess that they expect people to just feel bad for saying an opinion (that may be based on facts) and stay submise for the rest of the converzation and win the argument because no one else DARES to talk back.

Lunar Templar:

JellySlimerMan:
snip.

actually the .Hack and Xenosaga games did the 'carry over your save' thing to, Digital Devil Saga sorta did, you got a stat boost depending on how many of the skills you mastered for that character. though none come to mind that are 'choose your own adventure' style games, none that aren't bioware games anyway, not that i expect people to remember the last console generation :/

hmm ... I see where your going with that, but at the same time, don't think id work, by the time he finally figured all that out there was really only one choice open to him. It would need to be rewritten so he figured out he's 'freedom' much sooner then he did, though i feel the story just fine as is, if i didn't i would keep siting it as the 'best written/acted series in gaming'

But see, THIS is the reason why i think the Lok series failed to capture the essence of videogames. This was the perfect opportunity to interact with a world under the effects of predestination. You are tecnically with free will, but at the same time the world rearranges itself to make shit happen one way or another.

Think of a fully interactive world where you can kill the antagonist before you even KNEW it was but the prophesies end up being fulfilled anyway in a beliavable way. Think of how empowering would it be for the player to have total freedom to experiment what could possibly be out there that could make a permanent change and finally change destiny.

I also think it would have been a nice contrast with Kain and Raziel. Kain games would be linear and Raziel games should be more sandboxy, to ilustrate how he is the only one with Free Will.

Eric the Orange:

Darth Pope:
Getting REALLLLYYYYY tired of people continuing to rib on Sonic and completely ignoring that the series has been out of it's slump for several years now and ignore that two pretty good games and one absolutely fantastic one have come out recently.

The joke has been going on for so long people don't want to let it die.

What makes it more irritating is that the slump the series experienced from about 2002 to 2008/09-ish is greatly exaggerated. Did the series have a chronic case of the main series games having questionable quality ranging from mediocre to painful? Yes. But no one outside the fandom (hell even some people in it) seems to remember that during this six to seven year time period, five perfectly good handheld titles came who's quality ranged from good (Sonic Advence 2) to great (Sonic Advance 3/Rush). Both the Advance Trilogy and the two Rush titles were masterfully crafted successors to the Genesis Era Sonic games. The Advance Trilogy is a true successor to the classic games, and for all of it's posturing, the first Sonic Advance is far more worthy of the title Sonic the Hedgehog 4 than the game that actually bears that name will ever be. The two Rush games were a wonderful breath of fresh air for the series, revamping the classic gameplay with a modern touch to create a very addicting play style that had me coming back to my DS for months.

JellySlimerMan:
That i dont see many people doing the "I disagree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.". They just SHOUT VERY LOUD LIKE A BARKING CHIHUAHUA and expect the "dissagreing bastard" to just shut up at once.

I guess that they expect people to just feel bad for saying an opinion (that may be based on facts) and stay submise for the rest of the converzation and win the argument because no one else DARES to talk back.

The irony is quite thick here.

Firstly you complain about shouting arguments, yet you are the one who is loudly spamming the forum with your opinion. Then you talk about conversation and logical discussion, yet you are barely literate enough to compose a coherent sentence. It's pretty difficult to hold a "converzation" with someone who can't spell or understand basic subtext.

Was that daring enough to talk back to you?

Anyone who agrees with #1 really needs to get on Netflix and watch All-Star Superman and Superman vs. the Elite. While not perfect adaptations, they're based on two of the best comic book stories EVER, and provide a better rebuttal to old #1 than anything I can type here.

Also, between Last Rites and Return of Bruce Wayne, it's all but been established that Bruce is at least as functionally immortal and unbeatable as Clark is.

Any chance of a The Big Picture examining the popular appeal of Nicolas Cage? I'm actually very curious about what it says about the general public to like an actor who is either emotionless, or so emotional he comes off as zany and insane, and how it came about for Nicolas Cage's rise to fame/infamy.

JellySlimerMan:

Lunar Templar:

JellySlimerMan:
snip.

actually the .Hack and Xenosaga games did the 'carry over your save' thing to, Digital Devil Saga sorta did, you got a stat boost depending on how many of the skills you mastered for that character. though none come to mind that are 'choose your own adventure' style games, none that aren't bioware games anyway, not that i expect people to remember the last console generation :/

hmm ... I see where your going with that, but at the same time, don't think id work, by the time he finally figured all that out there was really only one choice open to him. It would need to be rewritten so he figured out he's 'freedom' much sooner then he did, though i feel the story just fine as is, if i didn't i would keep siting it as the 'best written/acted series in gaming'

But see, THIS is the reason why i think the Lok series failed to capture the essence of videogames. This was the perfect opportunity to interact with a world under the effects of predestination. You are tecnically with free will, but at the same time the world rearranges itself to make shit happen one way or another.

Think of a fully interactive world where you can kill the antagonist before you even KNEW it was but the prophesies end up being fulfilled anyway in a beliavable way. Think of how empowering would it be for the player to have total freedom to experiment what could possibly be out there that could make a permanent change and finally change destiny.

I also think it would have been a nice contrast with Kain and Raziel. Kain games would be linear and Raziel games should be more sandboxy, to ilustrate how he is the only one with Free Will.

yeah, i could see that working, so long as story isn't sacrificed cause i've yet to lay a sand box game with a truly great story, and if there was one thing TLoK could use help with its game play

Overall I like Moviebob. Hes a great speaker and his movie reviews are one of the things that keep me coming back to this site. But some things happen here that just make me cringe. I remember when the ME3 ending fiasco was sweeping the gaming community and everyone here had an opinion on it. Nothing wrong with that, this is a gaming community/news site after all, but everyone seemed to have such disdain for the people who didn't like the ending and had such a bad attitude about it. I stopped coming around the site for a good while after that happened.

It seems like lots of people don't like Bob's attitude here. I guess I can see why. I'm new to forums but this stuff seems like its sole purpose is to incite flame wars. Bob is a pretty interesting guy to listen to and his knowledge and Pop culture commentary is vast ( i never expected him to weigh in on something like my little pony). But this stuff? Its kind of a turnoff :(

You are a very boring person Bob.

JellySlimerMan:

erttheking:

I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused with how you're wording this. What are you trying to say?

That i dont see many people doing the "I disagree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.". They just SHOUT VERY LOUD LIKE A BARKING CHIHUAHUA and expect the "dissagreing bastard" to just shut up at once.

I guess that they expect people to just feel bad for saying an opinion (that may be based on facts) and stay submise for the rest of the converzation and win the argument because no one else DARES to talk back.

So I say that while defending you and now you're getting on my ass for it? Why do I feel like I turned over two pages at once?

Ha! He just had to make a comment about easy mode.

Some games require a lot of learned skill and research (or experience) to do well (Dark Souls). I hope such games crop up once in a while. There are enough easy games and easy modes.

Ever play the Kengo games? They were punishing swordplay simulations, but once you got it, knew the timing, distance and came in with a plan, it became easy, it did not start at easy and hold your hand.

Here's my weigh in on a few of the opinions

17. It's complained about only because it's used so much, if it wasn't in near every movie it wouldn't be an issue.

5. I agree with the statement made here

3. People who say this are obviously unknowledged of western comics, most western do have a set storyline that comes to an end if you look outside of DC and Marvel, similar to how you have to look outside of Shounen Jump comics to find anything with an well timed ending or anything of quality. Both east and west have companies that would rather stick with the safe bets then make anything interesting and both have people who'd rather produce something of love over something that makes a buck.

bravetoaster:
(I'm looking at you, Bleach).

Bleach has become a joke really. I thought it started out quite well and up to the end of Soul Society Arc was amazing, then it introduced Aizen as a villain and devolved into "we have a new level of power, here's a more powerful enemy, we must get stronger, we have a new level of power."

Such a shame.

And even now with the whole quincy invasion it's being dragged along at a snails pace. I think Kubo needs an editor.

Captcha: Milk was a bad choice

- Close enough

Poor Timothy Dalton made only two Bond films, one of the best and one of the worst. However, George Lazenby is the most unfairly derided Bond.

Devin Barker:
"Roger Moore was the worst James Bond." Really? not Timothy Dalton... pretty sure the worst was Timothy Dalton

Timothy Dalton was the worst James Bond, I really wish those movies didn't count. The only thing worse than a Timothy Dalton James Bond movie was this hour long show that aired in the 60's that was a really shortened re-creation of Casino Royale with an American playing James Bond. It aired on one of those cheapie cable channels that runs nothing but old TV shows like The Lone Ranger and Bonanza and advertises stuff for old people.

erttheking:

JellySlimerMan:

erttheking:

I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused with how you're wording this. What are you trying to say?

That i dont see many people doing the "I disagree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.". They just SHOUT VERY LOUD LIKE A BARKING CHIHUAHUA and expect the "dissagreing bastard" to just shut up at once.

I guess that they expect people to just feel bad for saying an opinion (that may be based on facts) and stay submise for the rest of the converzation and win the argument because no one else DARES to talk back.

So I say that while defending you and now you're getting on my ass for it? Why do I feel like I turned over two pages at once?

Mnn.?? and why would you consider yourself a barking chihuahua?? you did the oposite with Bhalspawn actually. You actually argued your points. That its ok.

I was just doing an observation that i havent seen any self proclaimed American do the "argue to defend their points". They just end the converzation prematurely like a troll making a SINGLE comment that consist in nothing but "you suck for making an opinion" without going in detail.

Aardvaarkman:

JellySlimerMan:
That i dont see many people doing the "I disagree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.". They just SHOUT VERY LOUD LIKE A BARKING CHIHUAHUA and expect the "dissagreing bastard" to just shut up at once.

I guess that they expect people to just feel bad for saying an opinion (that may be based on facts) and stay submise for the rest of the converzation and win the argument because no one else DARES to talk back.

The irony is quite thick here.

Firstly you complain about shouting arguments, yet you are the one who is loudly spamming the forum with your opinion.

An "shouting argument" is one that makes people stop talking by just insulting them very loudly rather than consider the argument at hand. For a triumphant example, see Bhallspawn comments.

Then you talk about conversation and logical discussion, yet you are barely literate enough to compose a coherent sentence.

If i fuck up, i can to do it again until the message is clear. Its called learning from your mistakes, a concept that its alien to you (and the writers of ME3 apparently)

It's pretty difficult to hold a "converzation" with someone who can't spell or understand basic subtext.

If i dont understand the "subtext" then you will have to tell me in detail. Or otherwise you are making shit up.

Was that daring enough to talk back to you?

No because i said before that i was describing people who dont like to argue and prefer to shout, and i have demostrated that i WANT to argue with actions alone here on the comments.

I dont see how that applies to me.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA- yeah, because this


and this

same thing.
But wait, isn't Bob saying that all manga is the same also a very widespread boring opinion?

All bonds are great in their movies and each one of them brought something to the caracter, Connery gave bond a personality, Lazenby emotion, Moore humor, Dalton Coldness, Brosnan charm and Craig roughness.

Now some of their movies are "bad" like Diamonds are Forever, A view to a kill,Die another day and Quantum of solace, but what do you expect? the series is like 50 years old not everything in it can be top notch, some low points should be expected, even those "bad" aren't that bad they are fun and entertaining, a bit ridiculous and in some parts stupid but still entertaining.

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