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Tanis:

The Tall Nerd:
so all of Christianity is catholic is what your saying
not i dunno different sects of Christians no no just Catholism
because i was saying was Christianity isn't just Catholicism
so please inform how your half assed retort was necessary
and please tell me how you like to read posts out of context , you lazy twat

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Catholics are Christians.
/=/ means 'not'.

So, by your very post you were saying either 'Christians aren't Catholics' or 'Catholics aren't Christians'.

Way too get pissed over nothing, bro.

i would go into whats wrong with your statement
but for using discord you get pass

i will leave you be

The Tall Nerd:

AzureFlameLord:

The Tall Nerd:

christian =/= catholic

on the topic of the comic though

you don't like religion
haha haha.... it wasn't that funny

He did specify 'Organized Religion' in the description, which is what you're generally talking about when you refer to priests... Just because somebody doesn't like the way other people tell them to experience the spiritual aspects of their lives doesn't mean they dislike religion in general.

That said, great comic as usual, guys. As was already said by others before me, you have my sincere and deepest respect for keeping on schedule with release despite this being Christmas week.

from what i can tell from i can tell the people who do this comic aren't really fans. which is fine, i have no issue with that my issue comes in where they try to fight being a dick, with being a dick.

you just end up looking like an atheist dick

i dont care if you dont like religon

nor do if you dont like atheism

no one cares, just make flipping jokes that aren't dick moves against each other shit isn't funny anymore

your disbelief in good is not comedy, it bores me

I ask that you consider the comic you are referring to. Aside from video game humor, this series has been carried by the consistency of Erin as a "dick" character. It is who she is, it's what she does. If you're annoyed by seeing "dick" humor in a comic about a "dick" character, then you might be reading the wrong comic. I do not wish to turn you away from Critical Miss by any means, though. Just maybe alter your expectations?

Nimzabaat:
That's a first, a Critical Miss that was kinda funny.

Strange that you would keep coming back here after so long if you hadn't found them funny in the past.

AzureFlameLord:
I ask that you consider the comic you are referring to. Aside from video game humor, this series has been carried by the consistency of Erin as a "dick" character. It is who she is, it's what she does. If you're annoyed by seeing "dick" humor in a comic about a "dick" character, then you might be reading the wrong comic. I do not wish to turn you away from Critical Miss by any means, though. Just maybe alter your expectations?

Well put, sir. I find that Erin really has it in for religion....and everyone and everything in a 20ft radius around her. She could pick a fight with a puppy. That's why I am here--for the douchebaggery. The jokes do not always register with me due to my unfamiliarity with some of the mainstream video game content. When this is the case, I simply hold my tongue and wait a week.

The art in this strip has become freakin' excellent. I am so glad you guys won the Web Comic contest.

The LoL community is childish, but that doesn't automatically mean they're foul. It does mean that often, mind you, but not automatically. It's more that they're reactionary and escalate anything seen as a challenge, or at least enough of them to be noticeable do this. Speaking calmly and kindly makes 80% of games turn out quite civil, with any lone shitflinger generally being hushed into irrelevance by the rest of the players. Pro-active courtesy goes a long way into setting the tone of the match, some kind words in the lobby make all the difference. I know some people will have wildly different experiences to my own, but myself and most of the people I know who also play have found that given the chance to be decent folk, most folk will.

And hey, if a jerkwad gets you down, just mosey on over to the tribunal page and drop lawful good justice on twenty chumps like him. Eventually, you'll get your guy.

AzureFlameLord:

The Tall Nerd:

AzureFlameLord:

He did specify 'Organized Religion' in the description, which is what you're generally talking about when you refer to priests... Just because somebody doesn't like the way other people tell them to experience the spiritual aspects of their lives doesn't mean they dislike religion in general.

That said, great comic as usual, guys. As was already said by others before me, you have my sincere and deepest respect for keeping on schedule with release despite this being Christmas week.

from what i can tell from i can tell the people who do this comic aren't really fans. which is fine, i have no issue with that my issue comes in where they try to fight being a dick, with being a dick.

you just end up looking like an atheist dick

i dont care if you dont like religon

nor do if you dont like atheism

no one cares, just make flipping jokes that aren't dick moves against each other shit isn't funny anymore

your disbelief in good is not comedy, it bores me

I ask that you consider the comic you are referring to. Aside from video game humor, this series has been carried by the consistency of Erin as a "dick" character. It is who she is, it's what she does. If you're annoyed by seeing "dick" humor in a comic about a "dick" character, then you might be reading the wrong comic. I do not wish to turn you away from Critical Miss by any means, though. Just maybe alter your expectations?

you mean expect something funny from someone a thing that's on a website full of funny interesting people. i have expectations.

i know every comic cant be the boondocks ( oh lord i love all that came from the boondocks) but i am asking for them to try.

to go to a different medium, even south park is above "hur dur relgeon is stupeed" hell they made fun of that in the morman episode

art ( that's what this is ) , this kinda of art is commentary on whats reliant in the world to the artists, this comic alot of times feels like a half assed attempt at that.

constructive criticism, it happens with art

The Tall Nerd:

AzureFlameLord:

The Tall Nerd:

from what i can tell from i can tell the people who do this comic aren't really fans. which is fine, i have no issue with that my issue comes in where they try to fight being a dick, with being a dick.

you just end up looking like an atheist dick

i dont care if you dont like religon

nor do if you dont like atheism

no one cares, just make flipping jokes that aren't dick moves against each other shit isn't funny anymore

your disbelief in good is not comedy, it bores me

I ask that you consider the comic you are referring to. Aside from video game humor, this series has been carried by the consistency of Erin as a "dick" character. It is who she is, it's what she does. If you're annoyed by seeing "dick" humor in a comic about a "dick" character, then you might be reading the wrong comic. I do not wish to turn you away from Critical Miss by any means, though. Just maybe alter your expectations?

you mean expect something funny from someone a thing that's on a website full of funny interesting people. i have expectations.

i know every comic cant be the boondocks ( oh lord i love all that came from the boondocks) but i am asking for them to try.

to go to a different medium, even south park is above "hur dur relgeon is stupeed" hell they made fun of that in the morman episode

art ( that's what this is ) , this kinda of art is commentary on whats reliant in the world to the artists, this comic alot of times feels like a half assed attempt at that.

constructive criticism, it happens with art

I do agree that constructive criticism is both a positive and necessary element of these sorts of things. If you believe these comics could be better, or you disagree with a certain way in which something in handled, I'm sure the creators appreciate your input. However, I would suggest you make that criticism your immediate priority when posting if you do have such intentions. Your original post simply pointed out that you were not amused. I may be misinterpreting your method of criticism here, but that does not seem to offer the creators much in terms of advice or actual critique. In fact, it would be fairly easy to misinterpret your comment as a petty complaint and nothing more. I mean no offense by this, I just believe you should offer more if you wish to make a difference.

AzureFlameLord:

The Tall Nerd:

AzureFlameLord:

I ask that you consider the comic you are referring to. Aside from video game humor, this series has been carried by the consistency of Erin as a "dick" character. It is who she is, it's what she does. If you're annoyed by seeing "dick" humor in a comic about a "dick" character, then you might be reading the wrong comic. I do not wish to turn you away from Critical Miss by any means, though. Just maybe alter your expectations?

you mean expect something funny from someone a thing that's on a website full of funny interesting people. i have expectations.

i know every comic cant be the boondocks ( oh lord i love all that came from the boondocks) but i am asking for them to try.

to go to a different medium, even south park is above "hur dur relgeon is stupeed" hell they made fun of that in the morman episode

art ( that's what this is ) , this kinda of art is commentary on whats reliant in the world to the artists, this comic alot of times feels like a half assed attempt at that.

constructive criticism, it happens with art

I do agree that constructive criticism is both a positive and necessary element of these sorts of things. If you believe these comics could be better, or you disagree with a certain way in which something in handled, I'm sure the creators appreciate your input. However, I would suggest you make that criticism your immediate priority when posting if you do have such intentions. Your original post simply pointed out that you were not amused. I may be misinterpreting your method of criticism here, but that does not seem to offer the creators much in terms of advice or actual critique. In fact, it would be fairly easy to misinterpret your comment as a petty complaint and nothing more. I mean no offense by this, I just believe you should offer more if you wish to make a difference.

i made a constructive cricism
but i think this is going to be a good ol case of
" since you don't agree with how i feel about something your criticism isn't constructive"

so i bid you adue

The Tall Nerd:

AzureFlameLord:

The Tall Nerd:

you mean expect something funny from someone a thing that's on a website full of funny interesting people. i have expectations.

i know every comic cant be the boondocks ( oh lord i love all that came from the boondocks) but i am asking for them to try.

to go to a different medium, even south park is above "hur dur relgeon is stupeed" hell they made fun of that in the morman episode

art ( that's what this is ) , this kinda of art is commentary on whats reliant in the world to the artists, this comic alot of times feels like a half assed attempt at that.

constructive criticism, it happens with art

I do agree that constructive criticism is both a positive and necessary element of these sorts of things. If you believe these comics could be better, or you disagree with a certain way in which something in handled, I'm sure the creators appreciate your input. However, I would suggest you make that criticism your immediate priority when posting if you do have such intentions. Your original post simply pointed out that you were not amused. I may be misinterpreting your method of criticism here, but that does not seem to offer the creators much in terms of advice or actual critique. In fact, it would be fairly easy to misinterpret your comment as a petty complaint and nothing more. I mean no offense by this, I just believe you should offer more if you wish to make a difference.

i made a constructive cricism
but i think this is going to be a good ol case of
" since you don't agree with how i feel about something your criticism isn't constructive"

so i bid you adue

I was referring to your initial post while stating that you should have made criticism your first concern instead of simply complaining that you do not like the humor. I never claimed to agree or disagree with you, I'm just trying to make a point. I won't force you to converse with me, and I can't help it if you don't like what I'm saying. Sorry to have wasted your time.

Tanis:

Catholics are Christians.
/=/ means 'not'.

So, by your very post you were saying either 'Christians aren't Catholics' or 'Catholics aren't Christians'.

Way too get pissed over nothing, bro.

Quick question on this subject.

Which is correct?
Consider that 5 is the number, and that 1 is considered to be a part of 5 (1,1,1,1,1) or (1,4).

1 = 5
1 =/= 5
1 <?> 5
Where <?> is another symbol that I am not aware of.

Going on the interpretation where "Christian" = 5 and "Catholic" = 1, what would be the closest to correct?

Alternatively:

slice = whole pie
slice =/= whole pie
slice <?> whole pie

Abomination:

DVS BSTrD:
It's cute that she still thinks Priests are virgins.

In the traditional sense of "must have penetrated a vagina", perhaps.

Technically, the original meaning of the word virgin was a pure, untouched maiden. Thus, men could not be considered virgins.

That doesn't look like Leona to me. Leona is younger and better-looking. And the hair is more orangish than reddish. /vent

The part about the virgins and insults is very true, though.

Considering the OP said "priest" and many other Christian denominations do not use the term "priest" to refer to their respective religious representatives but Catholics DO and Catholics are the largest of the organisations who use the term "priest" it isn't hard to assume that was the group she was talking about. Other denominations use the term reverend or Chaplin or Beta-7 (or whatever).

It is unlikely she was referring to Anglicans as the Church of England doesn't exactly have a very strong following in the 'States when compared to Catholicism.

Eric the Orange:

Nimzabaat:
That's a first, a Critical Miss that was kinda funny.

Strange that you would keep coming back here after so long if you hadn't found them funny in the past.

Yeah no kidding. I usually give them a miss (no pun intended) but there was no ZP this week and I got bored.

only 15/17 hours?
Pfff, amateur.
Contact me after 36h

Tanis:
Catholics are Christians.
/=/ means 'not'.

So, by your very post you were saying either 'Christians aren't Catholics' or 'Catholics aren't Christians'.

≠ doesnt mean "not". It means "not equal". In this case thats important, because for something to be equal they need to be identical, not just one being a subset of the other.

"Catholic ≠ Christian" is correct. For Catholic to equal Christian would require that all Christians be Catholics, and conversely saying "Catholic ≠ Christian" only means "not all Christians are Catholic".

Monster_user:
Which is correct?
Consider that 5 is the number, and that 1 is considered to be a part of 5 (1,1,1,1,1) or (1,4).

Thats a strange way of phrasing it, but if we accept your phrasing I would go with option 3 - a different symbol. Namely, I would say "1 ∈ 5", where ∈ means "an element of the set", since youve kind of phrased the question so that 5 is a set of smaller numbers.

Chinchama:
Most of the people on LoL are just very selfish and think so highly of themselves. The game is great to play with a team of people who can communicate...but more often than not you have someone who thinks they are the only one of talent and from the start tell you and your team everything you do is wrong, you suck, noob,..etc and then when ask "what should i do?"...no reply.....loveeeeeeee it.

More on topic...I have played random match games in LoL and out of the hundreds I have played only twice have I been aware there was a girl on the team. Of these two times, once I had called mid, the girl then said, "No I want mid" as I was typing, "sure, okay you can take it" she posted before I could reply, " I will show you my tits for mid" ...I was going to give her mid anyways...but lo' and behold a message later with a tinyurl link....dont know or care if it was her <-reported

Methinks it was not a girl and you are probably lucky you didn't click that link.

erttheking:
Eh...this is one of those cases when the strip is trying to say something, but I have no idea what it is. A take that at LoL...a take that at Christians...should I be offended?...I'm so confused. I guess this is one of those "are you laughing at me or with me," things.

If you really get offended by these things being a Christian then sure, be offended.

So funny to see Christians getting SO butthurt over a small dig. It was a pun people. It was hilarious too. Good on ya guys, keep up the great work.

Caffiene:

Tanis:
Catholics are Christians.
/=/ means 'not'.

So, by your very post you were saying either 'Christians aren't Catholics' or 'Catholics aren't Christians'.

≠ doesnt mean "not". It means "not equal". In this case thats important, because for something to be equal they need to be identical, not just one being a subset of the other.

"Catholic ≠ Christian" is correct. For Catholic to equal Christian would require that all Christians be Catholics, and conversely saying "Catholic ≠ Christian" only means "not all Christians are Catholic".

Monster_user:
Which is correct?
Consider that 5 is the number, and that 1 is considered to be a part of 5 (1,1,1,1,1) or (1,4).

Thats a strange way of phrasing it, but if we accept your phrasing I would go with option 3 - a different symbol. Namely, I would say "1 ∈ 5", where ∈ means "an element of the set", since youve kind of phrased the question so that 5 is a set of smaller numbers.

You are actually incorrect in that usage determines meaning. The way people use the ≠ symbol is to mean exactly what the person you quoted meant, that Catholics are not Christians. Which is false. I understand what you are saying though, as you are using the terms mathematical meaning. But of course with concepts like faith you can't easily say any two things are mathematically equal.

lacktheknack:
"Harlot" has a much nicer ring to it, don't you think?

Or my personal favourite ... Strumpet.

I gotta admit... that was pretty funny.

Your Gaffer:
So funny to see Christians getting SO butthurt over a small dig. It was a pun people. It was hilarious too. Good on ya guys, keep up the great work.

As far as I can see, there's only 2 Christians that were slightly annoyed and one overbearing antagonistic guy. There are more LoL players defending their case in this thread than Christians, sooo....

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MasterOfHisOwnDomain:

lacktheknack:
"Harlot" has a much nicer ring to it, don't you think?

Or my personal favourite ... Strumpet.

So we're all just gonna ignore "Tart"? C'MON! Tart! Short, sweet, the "T" gives is punch!

I can only assume that the content of this little comic is intentionally inflammatory, considering it contains two of the most argued subjects on the internet: LoL and religion.

Also, I get the impression that the person was trying to say that Christianity is not necessarily Roman Catholic, what with the Protestants and Orthodox out there.

Your Gaffer:
You are actually incorrect in that usage determines meaning. The way people use the , symbol is to mean exactly what the person you quoted meant, that Catholics are not Christians. Which is false. I understand what you are saying though, as you are using the terms mathematical meaning. But of course with concepts like faith you can't easily say any two things are mathematically equal.

Actually, he was replying to this post;

Abomination:

DVS BSTrD:
It's cute that she still thinks Priests are virgins.

In the traditional sense of "must have penetrated a vagina", perhaps.

Which he believed to refer to a recent controversy regarding Catholic priests, and not priests (or leaders) of other organized religions. Given the comic referred to "organized religion" the correct statement likely would have been:

"Organized religion" does not equal Catholicism.

or, to clarify his point:

Catholicism is not the only "Organized Religion."

Caffiene:

Monster_user:
Which is correct?
Consider that 5 is the number, and that 1 is considered to be a part of 5 (1,1,1,1,1) or (1,4).

Thats a strange way of phrasing it, but if we accept your phrasing I would go with option 3 - a different symbol. Namely, I would say "1 ∈ 5", where means "an element of the set", since youve kind of phrased the question so that 5 is a set of smaller numbers.

Sorry about the wording, it has been a while since I've studied mathmatical sets.

So, Catholic ∈ Christian?
Catholic ∈ Organized Religion?

BX3:

MasterOfHisOwnDomain:

lacktheknack:
"Harlot" has a much nicer ring to it, don't you think?

Or my personal favourite ... Strumpet.

So we're all just gonna ignore "Tart"? C'MON! Tart! Short, sweet, the "T" gives is punch!

Duly noted!

As I said, my status of white male Christian virgin doesn't mean I think Erin's a whore.

I think she's a tart.

I hope we're all clear on this issue.

Your Gaffer:

erttheking:
Eh...this is one of those cases when the strip is trying to say something, but I have no idea what it is. A take that at LoL...a take that at Christians...should I be offended?...I'm so confused. I guess this is one of those "are you laughing at me or with me," things.

If you really get offended by these things being a Christian then sure, be offended.

I'm not going to apologize about being concerned over this strip considering how heavily anti religion this website can get at time. In fact, you can blame the R&P thread for sucking the ability for me to laugh at my religion out of me.

Speaking not of religion or LoL, I can relate completely with the sloth bit. A week and a half off from work and what am I doing all day/night? Video games and I regret nothing. Being completely uninvolved with Christmas and the holidays as a whole, minus the cultural and familial aspect of it, I care little for all the pomp involved.

Not sure I'd want to play an MMO though. Not sure why anyone would, but that's just me.

You know, I'm starting to agree with people saying that some jokes go "too far".

Yes, I get it was a joke, yes, I understand that there was no harm meant, yes I kind of get that it was all in good spirits. But come on, a Christian bashing on Christmas? There is a place and there is a time for everything. Some jokes are in bad taste, and this is one of them.

Maybe Muslims have a point by being overly aggressive.

Your Gaffer:
The way people use the ≠ symbol is to mean exactly what the person you quoted meant, that Catholics are not Christians.

I disagree. In my experience apart from mathematical usage ≠ is used almost exclusively for situations where the distinction makes no difference (eg, cat ≠ dog, where a cat is not exactly equal to a dog and a cat is not a type of dog).

I definitely agree with your point about general usage guiding meaning, but the problem with that rule is that general usage is very hard to pin down in discussions like this. People can have completely different perceptions of how "everybody" uses it, like we obviously do here.

Monster_user:

So, Catholic ∈ Christian?
Catholic ∈ Organized Religion?

Yeah. I think its not technically very good math speak to use a normal word as the name of the set (you would say more like "X = {Catholic, Protestant, Greek Orthodox}"), but thats the general concept.

I don't see the big deal, and why this got so much attention. People make jokes about religion, big deal. I'm a Christian and I think it's funny.

Also not all Christians go to church, I do not.

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Also for those commenting about the whole Christian/Catholic thing, the strip mentions a Priest. That usually means Catholic, as a Protestant faith would have a Minister.

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As far as someone commenting on "understanding why Muslims are so aggressive", understand something: while I hate to be so dark and serious, one of the reasons why I'm so hardcore about breaking that theocratic culture is because I believe they need to grow up (and are capable of it). Religion is not generally a reason to start fights, or kill people, if you get upset to the point of threats or violence because someone makes a joke like this, or even draws a picture of Muhammad or whatever, that's a problem. Being able to roll your eyes, laugh at yourself and your own beliefs from time to time, and fit in with the rest of the world that might not agree with you is part of being civilized and a part of society.

If you are deeply offended, pray for the forgiveness of whomever made the joke.

That was disappointing, I come to this comic for unconventional humour I don't hear all the time.
I'm disappointed, though I love the LoL comparison, the schtick about witch-burnings, and religious judgement is really old and it always sounds exactly the same to me.
I've met religious people like that, but they're a minority, they're just the loudest ones on issues because most religious people aren't overzealous enough to give a shit and make their voices heard with anything other than votes...

BX3:
I gotta admit... that was pretty funny.

Your Gaffer:
So funny to see Christians getting SO butthurt over a small dig. It was a pun people. It was hilarious too. Good on ya guys, keep up the great work.

As far as I can see, there's only 2 Christians that were slightly annoyed and one overbearing antagonistic guy. There are more LoL players defending their case in this thread than Christians, sooo....

It's because the makeup of this form is predominantly Atheist
and it being a gaming form and LoL being as crazy popular as it is.

So as strange as it sounds there are probbly more LoL players then Christians here

Tanis:

The Tall Nerd:
so all of Christianity is catholic is what your saying
not i dunno different sects of Christians no no just Catholism
because i was saying was Christianity isn't just Catholicism
so please inform how your half assed retort was necessary
and please tell me how you like to read posts out of context , you lazy twat

image

Catholics are Christians.
/=/ means 'not'.

So, by your very post you were saying either 'Christians aren't Catholics' or 'Catholics aren't Christians'.

Way too get pissed over nothing, bro.

Actually, the formal logic for does not equal is '!=', which is what should have been used. The more you know.

OT: Loved the art in this one, nice job Leona.

direkiller:

It's because the makeup of this form is predominantly Atheist
and it being a gaming form and LoL being as crazy popular as it is.

So as strange as it sounds there are probbly more LoL players then Christians here

Yeah, I'm aware. My response was more towards the general demeanor of his remark, y'know the smug, pre-assuming "gurl, lookadose Christians. So grumpy." attitude comics like this tend to attract in communities like this one, often-times before the butthurt-ocidy even really appears.

This instance was especially annoying since, like I said, most of the defensiveness is coming from either The Tall Nerd or LoL players, so it struck me as weird that he'd make a remark like that.

Traun:
You know, I'm starting to agree with people saying that some jokes go "too far".

Yes, I get it was a joke, yes, I understand that there was no harm meant, yes I kind of get that it was all in good spirits. But come on, a Christian bashing on Christmas? There is a place and there is a time for everything. Some jokes are in bad taste, and this is one of them.

Maybe Muslims have a point by being overly aggressive.

Yeah all those crazy Muslims (what's that you say? Most Muslims aren't overly aggressive? Shh...) have a point. Let's each get a "Freedom go to Hell!" sign and burn some embassies.
But seriously, does any of you get that you're not really meant to symathize with Erin in this strip. Her attitude is clearly childish and pictured as such.

Edit: You also forgot to end it with: "Your insensitivity has caused me to leave the path of peace. Now, nothing holds me back. I'm coming to get you Rydell and Carter...I'll get each and everyone of you! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
You clearly still have a lot to learn!

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