Movie Defense Force: Waterworld

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Waterworld

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i dont think ive seen the movie since i was 9 or 10... i remember liking it... i will give this another watch

A-HA! Finally a movie I've seen. And not only have I seen that movie, I also agree wholeheartedly!

It was a fun action movie whose only crime was costing too much and yet when Transformers pulls that shit it gets showered with box office cash...

See, I saw it when I was young too, and I never got why it was such a punching bag. Oh well.

Soooo were you gonna do David Lynch's Dune at some point? *my vote*

EDIT: On topic, I love Waterworld. I'm really glad you chose to feature it this week. I especially like the bit where he swims with the sea monsters.

Thanks Jim. Now I am officially able to say how much I like this movie again without having to worry about ridicule.

I'll just say what Dana Carvey said years ago in one of his stand-ups. You cant piss in a Mr. Coffee and get Taster's Choice.

Joking aside I always was okay with waterworld. It's not Nearly as boring as the the fucking Postman (even if Postman has better internal logic concerning it's apocalypse).

Yay!
With you on this one, I've always been ridiculed for liking Waterworld, it's good to know I haven't suffered alone!

I didn't realize the movie was so highly reviled.

I've never seen it all the way through because it bored me when I first saw it and I never had the desire to rewatch it, but it's the only film I can actually name that stars Kevin Costner, so its at least got that going for it.

"...a rock solid premise."

Excuse me? Even if both polar ice caps and the Greenland ice sheet were to completely fucking melt there'd still be a shitload of dry land. It'd still be a calamity to be sure, but dry land would still be in sufficient quantity that it wouldn't be regarded as a myth by most of the general population.

That being said, I did like Waterworld for the most part. I agree that it did have a well-executed aesthetic and Dennis Hopper was the real stand-out. I think the reason it had so much scorn piled upon it is because it had ridiculously unrealistic expectations heaped upon it. People came in expecting the next big blockbuster, what they got was a distinctly average action romp which probably didn't justify its lavish price tag. The press surrounding its troubled production probably didn't help matters either.

I don't remember Waterworld being bad, I remember it being unappealing. Really I just couldn't get invested in it.
Also it's not as amusing as Independence Day. Sorry

Great movie. Been on tv here quite a number of times too, so are you sure it can't be called a classic?

Wow... another assessment that I back whole-heartedly.

I'm impressed so far with this new series, Jimothy. Every movie you have defended has been one that I personally enjoyed when I first watched them. I'm looking forward not only to more movies that I have seen and enjoyed in a minority, but also ones that I haven't seen, to be inspired to see them, and even the ones I did see, and had formed a supposedly unassailable opinion on.

Well done!

I agree with Jim, Water World was a pretty good movie if you willing to not look to deep into it. What I remember most about it was the world it was in and it's environments and building which like Jim said, hasn't really been emulated before, even decades after the movie was released.

This was always a good movie. Time for a real challenge; Defend Super Mario Brothers film....i know you can...

Yeah, it probably did get more stick than it deserved, but it sure as hell wasn't a good movie. I can't get over the fact that the "map" was just an huge arrow pointing to some triangles which I'm guessing were supposed to represent mountains; there was no point of reference on this "map" so how they were supposed to find "dry land" with it is beyond me, but somehow they did anyway.

Jimothy Sterling:
Waterworld

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Great movie, love it, but you should also point out that it gave birth to an extremely entertaining "show" at Universal Studios (California).

My favorite character in the movie was Kevin Costner's boat, damn that boat was awesome, sucked when it died. Waterworld is one of my dads favorite movies, I thought it was ok but he loves it.

I never had the hate of this movie that some people apparently have. When I saw it I thought it was OK. Nothing more, nothing less.
On the other hand I did love the way the Universal intro logo (that globe) started to flood all the land with water as the film started. That little bit of animation really impressed me and always left a mark on my mind :)
That's the one thing which will always stand out for me :P

I've never understood why this movie was so maligned over the years; I always enjoyed it as a unique take on a post-apocalyptic setting, though a bit alarmist about the whole global warming thing (but again, that's a criticism that has nothing to do with the movie itself). I recently acquired minecraft and one of the flat world presets is waterworld (too bad it starts you at the bottom of the ocean so on survivor you simply drown).

I am glad to see so many other people enjoyed that movie as well. Now we just need one featuring Speed Racer.

Nasrin:
Soooo were you gonna do David Lynch's Dune at some point? *my vote*

EDIT: On topic, I love Waterworld. I'm really glad you chose to feature it this week. I especially like the bit where he swims with the sea monsters.

Now you're talking. I love David Lynch's vision of Dune, that said, he did fail miserably to put some essential stuff from the book into the movie, and he also turned the Baron into something... HIDEOUS hahaha But it was a great movie. The mini-series that came out was way more faithful to Frank Herbert's space opera, but it had a pretty poor production at some points.
That said, I DEMAND a remake of Dune, high caliber, Guillermo del Toro or something directing it, heck we're talking about the masterpiece that went head to head against Lord of the Rings for a Nebula Prize and WON, it needs a good movie, good enough to allow for the adaptation of the sequels (because, really, the adaptations we had on Messiah of Dune and Children of Dune was almost laughable).
Damn one of those days I'll have to re-read those books...

I liked the movie, if it's on tv I'll probably watch it.
But,
It had some massive plot holes.

Why do the people lock Kevin up for being a mutant?!
If the whole world is underwater wouldn't people with gills be like the best thing ever?!

Also, we're told that the little girl with the map on her back can't swim.
WHY CAN'T SHE SWIM!?
In this world swimming is more useful then walking. Why didn't someone teach her how to swim before?!
That's insane!
Also, like Jim mentioned, what's the use of the dirt?

Still, it's one of those "don't mind the details, just watch" movies, and they're awesome from time to time.

Where were you last week? :(
Saw this when I was young, liked it.

So another movie that doesn't deserve the hate.
Made a pretty amusing Simpsons joke as well!

Of course, the benefit of hind-sight makes it obvious how this film got more shit than it deserved, but the added benefit of analysis also tells us that dumb action movies of the 90s were never very good. Although they were certainly less stupid than dumb action movies today, which take themselves way to fucking seriously.

Wait i didn't know waterworld was such a reviled movie that it needed to be defended. lol

shrekfan246:
I didn't realize the movie was so highly reviled.

Even highly reviled movies will ultimately be forgotten and get replaced by more current highly reviled movies.

OT: Even with all the giant bulky sets this movie couldn't keep itself upright. It was a big, hollow dud. It's occasionally amusing, but really not worth sitting through entirely. It's like Mad Max's little nephew splashing in the bathtub.

...Still better than John Carter and Brave though.

I'll echo a few other sentiments here, and say that, up until a couple years ago, I didn't realize that this was considered a 'bad' movie. Granted, I was only about three when it came out, so I'm not entirely sure of the story behind the movie, but I've seen it a couple of times - it was on TV last summer, as a matter of fact - and I thought it was an entertaining enough romp. I mean, yeah, it could certainly be considered a 'dumb action movie,' but if today's 'dumb action movies' tried to mix up the premise as much as some of the 'dumb action movies' of the 90's did, we'd be much better off for it.

Nasrin:
Soooo were you gonna do David Lynch's Dune at some point? *my vote*

I was all ready to explain to you how Dune 1984 was really popular and thus didn't deserve to be here, but I looked around some aggregate sites and was surprised to see a lot of people don't like it. Silly people, of course, but people none the less. It's not reviled mind you, but certainly not as well liked as it deserves, imo.

On topic: First time I can say I pretty much agreed whole-heartedly with Jim. Waterworld is pretty dumb, but entertainingly so. The ending leaves a lot to be desired largely due to Costner directing those last bits and the falling out with primary director Reynolds. And I think that controversy adds to the disdain for the movie. But even with the bad ending, remove the one horrid scene where he bungie jumps the girl out of the water and it would have been passable.

The Kevin Costner in post-apocalyptia thing works on me. I really like waterworld, and I really like The Postman, seriously check out my motto for on my profile page. They're such brilliant ideas in principal that even though the execution is a bit off, I can't help but love them.

A movie is as good as its villain, and Hopper's villain is brilliant. Water World was always a lot of fun to watch, especially if, like me, you went 10 years with only the last hour of the movie to watch because you did a shitty job of taping it off of the tv. That lets you skip straight towards the cool action finale.

Ranorak:
I liked the movie, if it's on tv I'll probably watch it.
But,
It had some massive plot holes.

Why do the people lock Kevin up for being a mutant?!
If the whole world is underwater wouldn't people with gills be like the best thing ever?!

Also, we're told that the little girl with the map on her back can't swim.
WHY CAN'T SHE SWIM!?
In this world swimming is more useful then walking. Why didn't someone teach her how to swim before?!
That's insane!
Also, like Jim mentioned, what's the use of the dirt?

Still, it's one of those "don't mind the details, just watch" movies, and they're awesome from time to time.

Well just like money in the real world, the dirt has no use...it's just a unit of representative value.

Devin Barker:
i dont think ive seen the movie since i was 9 or 10... i remember liking it... i will give this another watch

This is pretty much my take as well. I enjoyed it when I was young... and wonder how much I'd enjoy it now... I wager just as much.

Preach it, Jim! This movie was one of my all-time favorite popcorn-action films, right up there with Independence Day.

Edit: 1, people fear things different from them. Mutants are different. I never even questioned this; it's human nature. Countless stories play this trope without batting an eye.

2, dirt is valuable because it's the only way to grow FOOD. No hydroponics.

3, girl not swimming... yeah, I got nothin'. Maybe too young? No wading pools to learn in safely.

Worgen:
My favorite character in the movie was Kevin Costner's boat, damn that boat was awesome, sucked when it died. Waterworld is one of my dads favorite movies, I thought it was ok but he loves it.

I remember watching in the 90's a documentary about how Waterworld was made and I remember them saying something along those lines about the boat, wanting it to be a character on it's own.

OT: Well, I remember watching it eons ago, but I really don't remember anything specific about this movie. Maybe it's a solid movie, but still pretty forgettable.

flying_whimsy:
I've never understood why this movie was so maligned over the years; I always enjoyed it as a unique take on a post-apocalyptic setting, though a bit alarmist about the whole global warming thing (but again, that's a criticism that has nothing to do with the movie itself). I recently acquired minecraft and one of the flat world presets is waterworld (too bad it starts you at the bottom of the ocean so on survivor you simply drown).

I am glad to see so many other people enjoyed that movie as well. Now we just need one featuring Speed Racer.

The main reason which Jim briefly spoke about was the expense in making vs the money it made and it was a expensive movie for its time and it bombed pretty big.

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