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Random Argument Man:
there's bad porn?

Oh dear. You sweet innocent soul.

Quiotu:
No offense, but I've always noted that the Ouya bears a striking resemblance to the Lament Configuration.

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And that scares the shit outta me.

If I ever decide to get one of those things, I now know how I want to mod the case.

Metalrocks:
lol. love the silent hill movie reference. amazing that some dint get it.

I hope you're trying to be funny. I know a man who would not be happy with you otherwise! :p

Zachary Amaranth:

Lono Shrugged:
Jesus wept, no one has any taste in movies anymore.

Hellraiser isn't exactly a new movie, chum. It's a touch late to start talking about bad taste in movies.

But you know people can watch OLD movies, like movies from the past. Also I was kidding, Hellraiser is a schlocky and cheesy movie by no means a classic of cinema. Also It's not like I'd be judging anyone for not seeing a movie (BTW "Jesus wept" is a classic line from the film) It is funny though how people instantly thought Silent Hill.

"behold my pleasure toast!"

There was an xkcd comic a while ago which did some fancy math and concluded that every day, on average (and just in the U.S.) for every piece of knowledge that 'everyone knows', 30 people are hearing about it for the first time. It also suggested that instead of acting all appalled that someone didn't know it before hand, it's much more fun to teach them.

I guess what I'm saying is those of you who lament the state of nerd culture because someone somewhere didn't get a certain film reference are not serving any purpose whatsoever. I haven't seen Blade Runner.

EDIT: I don't mean to rage against people who were joking. I have trouble identifying sarcasm and whathaveyou in normal conversation, let alone written text :)

Lono Shrugged:

Zachary Amaranth:

Lono Shrugged:
Jesus wept, no one has any taste in movies anymore.

Hellraiser isn't exactly a new movie, chum. It's a touch late to start talking about bad taste in movies.

But you know people can watch OLD movies, like movies from the past. Also I was kidding, Hellraiser is a schlocky and cheesy movie by no means a classic of cinema. Also It's not like I'd be judging anyone for not seeing a movie (BTW "Jesus wept" is a classic line from the film) It is funny though how people instantly thought Silent Hill.

"behold my pleasure toast!"

Hellraiser IS a true classic of the horror genre, both the original book (the hellbound heart) and the first two films Hellraiser and H2. The horror movie genre was degenerating into doing just slasher parodies until Hellraiser came along.

I shouldn't be too harsh though. YOU atleast got the reference. The rest are barbarians.

veloper:
Hellraiser IS a true classic of the horror genre, both the original book (the hellbound heart) and the first two films Hellraiser and H2. The horror movie genre was degenerating into doing just slasher parodies until Hellraiser came along.

I shouldn't be too harsh though. YOU atleast got the reference. The rest are barbarians.

Which is sad, honestly. Seeing people who go "Old movie is old, who gives a shit?" is really disheartening.

As someone who spends far too much time reading H.P. Lovecraft's stories, I can definitely way I've pored over "The Hellbound Heart" until my copy's spine was nothing but a happy memory. I really do miss that particular shade of Clive Barker - most of what he's done subsequently hasn't tickled my pleasure centers quite as effectively.

But - hey. I remember squealing like a fangirl when "Cabin in the Woods" produced the Pinhead expy.

my word I haven't even seen any hellraiser movies and I could have told going off panel 2 alone what it was a reference to

Dr. Mongo:
I'm a bit stumped that so many people do not know Hellraiser anymore. Sounds like a case for Jim's Movie Defense Force.
And yeah, great comic!

Well to be fair it came out in 1987. I mean just for me that was the year I was born. I only saw the Hellraiser 1 and 2 say...4 years ago when I worked at a movie rental store and got free rentals

Considering the sites main demographic is usually 25 and younger, it's not really all that surprising that some wouldn't have seen it...but that just means they need to go now and see good classic horror.

Therumancer:

Clive actually didn't have much to do with the rest of the Hellraiser movies or the extended mythology. Indeed his stories draw on and referance each other to an extent, including a couple of recurring characters (like a detective with the last name D'amore, can't remember the first name, it's been a while, but he's the protaganist of "Lord Of Illusions" played by Scott Bakula... a movie which blew, and wasn't even all that close to the story it was based on which is half the problem I think). It's involved some series trope changes like where "Pinhead" who was simply called "The Engineer" in the story (though the proper name is used in some of the later movies) is made out to be a bigger deal than he was in the scheme of things.

Pinhead's role as The Engineer is sketchy at best. Part of the issue comes down to two points: first is that, according to Clive Barker, "Pinhead" is a placeholder name for the character, and that his actual name has yet to be revealed (his Cenobite form, not his human form. He's still Elliot Spencer) This would imply that The Engineer is a different entity, and that "Pinhead's" real name will be revealed in "The Scarlet Gospels" (whenever that comes out) The other issue is that, while the description doesn't match, the weird creature in the hospital hallway in Hellraiser is now considered The Engineer, both in the movie and in the new comic series by Clive Barker. This gets even weirder when, if the new canon comic series is anything to go by, it's strongly hinted that the human manifestation of Leviathan could be The Engineer mentioned in the original novella.

The better a person you are if you wind up in hell the better the chances you'll become one of them, where if you set off to become one of them or are an evil douchbag they are likely to just torture you. There even being one guy they show in a story who winds up begging for eternity to be made one of them "as promised" for all of the stuff he did in their name... which they are never going to do. :)

Was that from the new comic series? I remember that happening early on with a guy named Samuel, but perhaps it's happened multiple times before. As for the transformation process, this has a weird rule-set. While most who use the Lament Configuration, knowing full well what might happen, don't turn, the main four (Pinhead, Female, Butter Ball, and Chatterer) are all implied to have actively sought the Configuration out. Elliot Spencer especially, with Hellraiser 2 showing he actively opened the Configuration. The other issue is that, if Barker's comic series is considered canon, that a new Cenobite is chosen less because of their innocence/guilt and more on the whims of Leviathan, usually to serve whatever game he's playing.

Random Argument Man:

SonicWaffle:
"snip" Porn* "snip" You know, the good kind.

"You know, the good kind."

I was going to say oh "hey Hell raiser" but...

I'm sorry to "ruin" your joke, but...there's bad porn?

Yes, yes there is.

And really, people? I've never even seen Hellraiser and I still got the reference.

I'm kind of surprised people didn't know this was Hellraiser. I haven't even seen the movie and I got it right away lol.

What's your pleasure sir?

Eternal_Lament:

Therumancer:

Clive actually didn't have much to do with the rest of the Hellraiser movies or the extended mythology. Indeed his stories draw on and referance each other to an extent, including a couple of recurring characters (like a detective with the last name D'amore, can't remember the first name, it's been a while, but he's the protaganist of "Lord Of Illusions" played by Scott Bakula... a movie which blew, and wasn't even all that close to the story it was based on which is half the problem I think). It's involved some series trope changes like where "Pinhead" who was simply called "The Engineer" in the story (though the proper name is used in some of the later movies) is made out to be a bigger deal than he was in the scheme of things.

Pinhead's role as The Engineer is sketchy at best. Part of the issue comes down to two points: first is that, according to Clive Barker, "Pinhead" is a placeholder name for the character, and that his actual name has yet to be revealed (his Cenobite form, not his human form. He's still Elliot Spencer) This would imply that The Engineer is a different entity, and that "Pinhead's" real name will be revealed in "The Scarlet Gospels" (whenever that comes out) The other issue is that, while the description doesn't match, the weird creature in the hospital hallway in Hellraiser is now considered The Engineer, both in the movie and in the new comic series by Clive Barker. This gets even weirder when, if the new canon comic series is anything to go by, it's strongly hinted that the human manifestation of Leviathan could be The Engineer mentioned in the original novella.

The better a person you are if you wind up in hell the better the chances you'll become one of them, where if you set off to become one of them or are an evil douchbag they are likely to just torture you. There even being one guy they show in a story who winds up begging for eternity to be made one of them "as promised" for all of the stuff he did in their name... which they are never going to do. :)

Was that from the new comic series? I remember that happening early on with a guy named Samuel, but perhaps it's happened multiple times before. As for the transformation process, this has a weird rule-set. While most who use the Lament Configuration, knowing full well what might happen, don't turn, the main four (Pinhead, Female, Butter Ball, and Chatterer) are all implied to have actively sought the Configuration out. Elliot Spencer especially, with Hellraiser 2 showing he actively opened the Configuration. The other issue is that, if Barker's comic series is considered canon, that a new Cenobite is chosen less because of their innocence/guilt and more on the whims of Leviathan, usually to serve whatever game he's playing.

Old Comic series, wasn't aware there was a new one. I think the publisher was "Checker" it's years old now. I'd have to dig it out for specific examples, but I seem to remember people coming back as Cenobtes a few times, and it usually seemed to be people that were wronged... though that was never explicitly stated. There was simply an obvious parallel in those stories to someone who wanted to be one, but that hope was simply part of his torture.

I was also under the impression Cliver Barker had pretty much nothing to do with the series after the first movie, hence why I specify the "Movieverse" as opposed to the version in his writing.

As far as Pinhead being "The Engineer" I believe they specify that in "Inferno" (Hellraiser 5, direct to video). That was one where you had a Detective who is a complete sleaze, but has a penchant for puzzles, tracking down some murders only to find out he's already in hell, and the whole world he's in is pretty much his torment. He spends time tracking down "The Engineer" as the one responsible for what's going on as things unravel, and yeah it's clearly Pinhead if I remember (it's been quite a while, but I've seen it a couple of times).

Now granted if they can do whatever they want with it, I didn't even get started on contridictions and problems within the franchise and it's consistincy (which was not the point of the post I wrote) that would just add more to the mess that any seriel horror franchise becomes. Especially seeing as a lot of these movies are objectively pretty bad. The most recent one "Revelation" in paticular seemed to be really dialing it in.

I used the comics I'm familiar with as a referance because I believe the premise was that they were supposed to be canon specifically to the movieverse, designed to fill in the cracks (so to speak) but that's a common comics claim with franchise material, and at the end of the day it's always going to come down to the movies and whomever the latest ones with the liscence decide to define or re-define canon. I can't only speak of what I'm familiar with and the franchise
as I understand it.

That freaky thing in the wheelchair they like to re-use for all of the movies being The Engineer would be an interesting twist if done right, but I'm pretty sure that was never the intent, I'm pretty much positive Pinhead is The Engineer in the movies. I don't remember if the comics I read ever identified him that way for sure, but they might have.

Irridium:
At least someone got this faster than the last time...

*sigh*

Wow... that was actually pretty sad. That's way too many people who didn't recognize the most iconic scene in Blade Runner. Sacrilege!

Gee guys Hellraiser so eaily forgotten :P

DVS BSTrD:
EDit: Good Lord, did nobody think to look up "Lament Configuration"?

I can understand why some people wouldn't have what with the use of the words "Lament" and "Configuration" meshing with the joke about Sony's current state and possible future. I mean I didn't even know what that type of box was called even after having seen it in a flash animation (evil mode) and a movie (safe mode and not Hellraiser) until you're suggestion to look up those specific words. Otherwise the reference was Greek to me.

Siris (Series) of Events:
Looks at strip.
Laughs at joke.
Checks comments.
Sees your post.
Does the google thing.
Navigates to wikipedia page.
Reads for 3 seconds and looks at reference image.
Facepalm as he realises it's just a puzzle box.

Therumancer:
...he's the protaganist of "Lord Of Illusions" played by Scott Bakula... a movie which blew...

Heeeeeeey... I liked Lord of Illusions. Though that could just be because I was young and foolish when it came out.

Also, for you Hellraiser fans, Clive Barker is writing another book in that setting called The Scarlet Gospels, with the aforementioned Harry D'Amore and The Engineer/"Pinhead". Sadly I think the release date is set to "at some point hopefully within our lifespans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Gospels

Quiotu:
No offense, but I've always noted that the Ouya bears a striking resemblance to the Lament Configuration.

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And that scares the shit outta me.

Did it get that name from the sound you make when it opens the portal to Hell?

That was a pretty funny joke, but I actually like my Vita quite a bit. Some parts of it are kind of dumb (I still haven't seen a decent use for the rear touch pad), but it's a solid piece of hardware and there are some decent games on it, although it could definitely use some more. Honestly, owning a Vita now feels a lot like owning a 3DS did a year ago (the 3DS has since become much more worth owning and the Vita will hopefully follow suit).

Lol. Classic Resident Evil reference is classic.

Does no one like the vita?

Nah I understand the teasing and what's wrong with it. I'm still hopeful that it'll turn around and have a good run and for me it already has. (Where I live we didn't really get much Psp games and I missed a lot of really good Ps1 stuff so as a retro man I'm happy with the vita)

THIS IS A JOKE: And being a fanboy I forgot to say that Grey should get a job at Kotaku; His writing would really be appreciated there.

oh, come on, Vita is awesome. it's just that the software lineup is kind of shit so far. The chance to get better is still there. Remember PS3? Or even PS2 for that matter? they both launched poorly and got infinitely better later on.

PSP didn't but we don't talk about that.

Well with the amount of people not getting this panel it should makes Jims next movie defense force interesting commentwise.

Ot: I got Cory and Grey. You should do a Cube reference next week to see how many people get that one

Renegade-pizza:
I take it this is a Silent Hill reference...Holy hell that was messed up!

Nope. Hellraiser.

OT: It definitely can "please" it's customers beyond the flesh.

Shame on those who that was a silent hill reference. Either hellraiser's gotten old, or it's me who's gotten old. Regardless people fo shame, fo shame.

edit: it's almost as bad as the blade runner one, except I just read a post that had "resident evil" as a possible interpretation. Just wow...

As soon as you start playing it I can see this guy appearing.

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The box, you opened it. We came!

Nile McMorrow:

Facepalm as he realises it's just a puzzle box.

A puzzle box which tears down all known boundaries of reality, literally merging the lines between pleasure and pain and opening doors to worlds men were not meant to see!

But yea, it's certainly a puzzle box.

Dr.Susse:
Does no one like the vita?

Nah I understand the teasing and what's wrong with it. I'm still hopeful that it'll turn around and have a good run and for me it already has. (Where I live we didn't really get much Psp games and I missed a lot of really good Ps1 stuff so as a retro man I'm happy with the vita)

THIS IS A JOKE: And being a fanboy I forgot to say that Grey should get a job at Kotaku; His writing would really be appreciated there.

I like cracking jokes at vita, as I own one myself. Although I don't regret having one. Soul Sacrifice, Tear away, Ys and VK3 coming this year is enough to make me a happy person (plus with probably some ports i'll still be able to enjoy, and I still have to explore some ps1 and psp games)

Busard:

Dr.Susse:
Does no one like the vita?

Nah I understand the teasing and what's wrong with it. I'm still hopeful that it'll turn around and have a good run and for me it already has. (Where I live we didn't really get much Psp games and I missed a lot of really good Ps1 stuff so as a retro man I'm happy with the vita)

THIS IS A JOKE: And being a fanboy I forgot to say that Grey should get a job at Kotaku; His writing would really be appreciated there.

I like cracking jokes at vita, as I own one myself. Although I don't regret having one. Soul Sacrifice, Tear away, Ys and VK3 coming this year is enough to make me a happy person (plus with probably some ports i'll still be able to enjoy, and I still have to explore some ps1 and psp games)

There certainly are a lot of Ps1 and psp stuff to get through; the Ys game should be good too.

We finally got Ys 7 on the Australian Psn the other day so I can get into ys games for the first time now.

So I assume those chains in the last panel are Sony proprietary and ridiculously expensive.

this reminds me of the classic saying " oh ! everyone will love this!" lol great representation of how we all wait with baited breath for news and information just to think " Seriously?"

oldtaku:
So I assume those chains in the last panel are Sony proprietary and ridiculously expensive.

They're also proprietary chains, meant only for use on Sony hardware and software. Using them without such usually sends people into a state of dementia worse than death. DRM these days.
Please note that the contents of this comment are a joke. Please do not start a DRM-related flamewar, due to the risk of black plaque and whining.

so... is this just another jab at the vita, or did sony say something to spark it?

Frankly, I would totally buy this. Just for the sake of having it.

Also, it's disappointing to see how many people missed what this was a reference to.

That really awkward moment where I haven't even SEEN "Hellraiser", but I still get the reference just fine.

[sigh]

Was the Vita really that painful? I thought people liked it.

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