Escape to the Movies: Spring Breakers

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Wait, IT HAS POINIES?!?!

Definitely avoiding then.

Reeve:
It sounds like a Bret Easton Ellis homage.

That's what I was thinking too. Except more hollow imitation than homage.

A satire about the faceless and empty nature of yuppy culture or an examination about the banality of privilege is one thing. A movie trying to be to the bone ride into the heart of current pop culture? Sounds kinda boring.

We're all aware modern pop culture is vapid and commercialised to a frightening degree. We don't really need a disguised critique to tell us that.

I'll probably catch it on TV when it eventually makes it there. I'm not gonna drop my shit to see it, but you never know. Might surprise me.

OlasDAlmighty:
Wait, IT HAS POINIES?!?!

Definitely avoiding then.

So, you're gonna not watch a movie simply because it probably makes ONE reference to the show?

Get over yourself.

Yeah... sorry Bob, I like you and everything, but ever since your review of Suckerpunch, I have to take these kinds of reviews with a grain of salt, and especially when it comes to female exploitation on film.

Gonna give it a miss. I am not a fan of the "we coach a deeper message into something the audience wants to see" thing, because at the end of the day, if you wanted to see whatever "it" is, you're going to ignore the message and stay with that. And if you were there for the deeper message, you're going to have to slog through the "it" in order to get there. That type of movie is trying to have it both ways, obviously, trying to reel in the shallow masses AND the intellectuals, so it obviously doesn't care about the deeper message enough to get rid of the shallow cocoon it is presented in. So if the movie itself doesn't care that much about the deeper message, why should I?

snowfi6916:

OlasDAlmighty:
Wait, IT HAS POINIES?!?!

Definitely avoiding then.

So, you're gonna not watch a movie simply because it probably makes ONE reference to the show?

Get over yourself.

Were actually I being serious I don't see how it'd make me any more ridiculous than all the people with the exact opposite reaction. Honestly I have no interest in this movie, ponies or no ponies.

shadowstriker86:

Chessrook44:
[Insert Fry-Eye-Narrowing-Picture here]
"Not sure if serious... or trolling..."

I'm sure you mean this:
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Yes that is exactly the picture I wanted, thank you!

Desert Punk:

RTR:
Also, quick question regarding the presence of ponies in this film:
Is it used as an easy target for the sake of mockery?

after some googlefu I found this:

That's kind of a relief. Putting the fact that I'm a fan aside, it's maddening how something so essentially harmless is often used as a punchline outisde of its fandom. Sure, the attitude of some of its "promoters" doesn't help, but still.

shadowstriker86:

And I'm with you on that one Chess, considering that Bob just pretty much spelled out the whole movie for us; 4 whores (and im using that term literally) rob a store, go to florida, get caught up in hookering and drugs, all while not changing his tone. But truth be told this movie looks like gabaj (garbage but it sounds funny when you say it out loud) especially with the fact that its filled with dubstep. It honestly reminds me of that one chick from "Forest Gump" who spent the majority of the movie bein a slut and smokin crack, only where that had a reason for being and was tragic as hell, this is just "oh hey lets write these chicks as whores cause people like that". If people really feel the need to see this kind of movie, watch "Almost Famous" and have dubstep blasting on a pair of headphones.

Yes, much like Into the Wild is about a white guy getting lost in the woods, The Great Gatsby is about some rich dude and his party, and Bioshock is about the some guy going underwater to kill the remaining populace of the city of Rapture.

Making generalized, summarized, broad-sweeping comments that completely dodge even the WANT of any statements that aren't being made at the surface level doesn't paint you any better in terms of creating/presenting compelling opinions.

OT:

I may see this. Movies like this generally get me into a bit of a down state of mind, and it's not something that's needed in my life at the moment. I'll likely wait until it comes in other forms of media distribution.

Darken12:
Yeah... sorry Bob, I like you and everything, but ever since your review of Suckerpunch, I have to take these kinds of reviews with a grain of salt, and especially when it comes to female exploitation on film.

Gonna give it a miss. I am not a fan of the "we coach a deeper message into something the audience wants to see" thing, because at the end of the day, if you wanted to see whatever "it" is, you're going to ignore the message and stay with that. And if you were there for the deeper message, you're going to have to slog through the "it" in order to get there. That type of movie is trying to have it both ways, obviously, trying to reel in the shallow masses AND the intellectuals, so it obviously doesn't care about the deeper message enough to get rid of the shallow cocoon it is presented in. So if the movie itself doesn't care that much about the deeper message, why should I?

Because the whole point of existential discussion as related to the generation this movie is presenting lies often within the excessive use of self-indulgence to fill an otherwise gaping void that is within the center of the human condition. The whole point of some movies is that characters are hilariously oblivious to what the story they are in is trying to say. That hardly makes a story's ability to tell itself bad, it actually may play up the experience.

Or because if they made this movie about intelligent people with funny hats discussing the benefits and down-sides of our generation's moral set/existential relations, it wouldn't sell and would likely oddly misrepresented. Much like Bob talking about this movie seems a bit disingenuous to his audience.

Honestly, I think this review just paints a bit of a divide at some points between this website's populace and their collective opinion of certain atmospheres used in movies(or other forms of media, I suppose), and someone like Bob, who might be looking for value that people here would like have no problem discarding. I don't really think it's the fault of either party, but it's a bit disappointing.

I just realized that this is a movie directed by a man named "Harmony" and it has ponies in it.
I find that extremely delightful.

That moment when Bob clearly states that you may not like this movie yet people still complain he has bad taste.

Watched the review, till the last second I was expecting him to say he was being sarcastic...

Well, I was wondering why this video has so many comments on it already, and I think I know why...

I know this may seem saddenning, but this movie really didn't seem like the kind of movie I'd bother seeing; when Bob positively reviews certain movies, I might not see them simply because it doesn't look that appealing to me, or I'm not interested in it. I'm sure what Bob says about the movie is true, but even so, I don't get that interested in seeing a movie unless something about it truly perks my interest... And needless to say, the mention of ponies at the end of this review, as well as being jaw-droppingly surprising, got me interested. Call me shallow, one-minded, whatever, I don't freaking care, now I'm just interested in seeing what this movie's about.

i dont want to sound thick, but i feel like i wouldnt have picked up on all the deep subtleties of this movie, if you hadnt spelled them all out. i feel like a fair amount of over analysis is required to get as much from this movie as you did.

also, why why why why why did you have to mention my little pony? the internet has a habit of getting mad at bronies whenever my little pony comes up anywhere. in fact, the facebook comments to this have already turned in to "i wanna see this because of my little pony" vs "i wont see this because of my little pony"

OlasDAlmighty:

snowfi6916:

OlasDAlmighty:
Wait, IT HAS POINIES?!?!

Definitely avoiding then.

So, you're gonna not watch a movie simply because it probably makes ONE reference to the show?

Get over yourself.

Were actually I being serious I don't see how it'd make me any more ridiculous than all the people with the exact opposite reaction. Honestly I have no interest in this movie, ponies or no ponies.

I hate to ride in on this one but true. Sure, everyone should be over the "OMG There ARE PONIES. I MUST RAGE" But when just a mention of Ponies gets "OMG Must Watch", that can be a tad bit annoying. It's even hypocritical when the same person says "Btw, I'm loving everyone here who are furious that any movie would include a cartoon show they don't like instead of, you know, judging it on what it is actually focusing on." when they just said implementing ponies was a reason to watch. Just leave the ponies out of this you guys and see it or not. Also I heard it was implemented by characters watching it in the background. That's really it, so no reason to watch it or not watch other than how good it is. Shame on Bob for baiting!

Gen Y Misfit here,I happy to say the people on the fringes of this new trend will either save or destroy the world.

I was burned by American Pie, so I probably won't see this. But Bob makes it sound like a movie you need your brain on for. I like that.

This is actually good? Didn't see that coming. From the trailer it looked like a mindless excuse for all the boys to see Selena Gomez in a bikini so I just dismissed it and forgot about it. That's probably why all the boys are gonna go and see it anyway but it's good to know that they might walk out of the theater with more than a boner.
Technically, I'm a part of Generation Y, so I might check it out.

For the curious here is video exploring Harmony Korine, specifically his 2009 film: Trash Humpers.

http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-trash-humpers-4678636

For anyone considering going to see Spring Breakers I urge you to watch this so you know what kind of film maker you're dealing with.

i'm convinced this is some ill conceived joke on bob's part.

Damn it, Bob, I believed in you. And you go and disappoint me that severely.

(And yeah, I saw this. Saw it at TIFF in September.)

It is bad. It is a self-indulgent, poorly written, tawdry, and - most damningly - banal movie. There is no substance, and very little style. The director clearly made it so that he could write off his "Girls Gone Wild" videos as a tax expense (I'm only half joking - he as much as said that directly, not as a joke, during the Q&A after the movie). James Franco sleepwalks through his cardboard-thin role, and three of the four girls are utterly interchangeable (the fourth being the one who isn't there for half the movie). Every aspect of this movie was a mistake. It was one of the worst movies I saw in 2012.

Markunator:
I'm sorry, Bob, but I can't go see this movie, not after the Spill Crew's review. They say that there is virtually no plot or characters in the film, and that it's a film which tries to tell the viewer that what it's portraying is wrong, even though what it's portraying is shot like porn:

http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/spring-breakers-audio-review

That's a much more accurate review.

While I respect Bob's opinion as a movie critic (more than any other critic out there in fact) I can't bring myself to even consider seeing this film. See, I hate the content. I hate the Gen Y decadent hedonistic raver generation. I hate, despise and loathe every single thing about them. They make me sick. And I was supposed to be PART of that generation, or at least in the first wave of it (I'm turning 30 this year, graduated high school in 2001). I skipped my own schoolies week (Australian equivalent of the decadant spring break-style end of school celebration) because I just couldn't see the point or the appeal in going somewhere for a week and wasting time, getting drunk, doing drugs, having unsafe sex with either strangers I'd never see again or schoolmates I'd never be able to look at again as a result and getting into trouble with the police. That kind of mindless hedonism just pisses me off. I don't care how intelligent and introspective this movie is, I simply don't want to have to be subjected to that much of the content I despise. Just watching this review made me hate the characters in this movie and hope they come to a horrific end, but not nearly enough to make me want to find out. But that's just my opinion, of course.

OK, rant over.

I love James Franco, so I can't wait to see this one!

Why do I suspect its something along the lines of one of the characters fucking a Twilight Sparkle doll... do not want.

Also, to everyone disagreeing with Bob, do you really care? I disagree with him all the time, 'Drag me to Hell' and 'Predators' were terrible and 'Zodiac' was one of the worst films ive ever seen. Sure, it doesn't mean you should just accept it, argue your point if you must but don't make him out to be some sort of Judas.

Dammit, I wanted to just ignore this. Now I have to go to the cinema Bob! You're making me, like, leave the house! And exercise!

Not cool.

Ponies?! Say it isn't so! I mean, I was half-expecting this review to turn out to be an early April Fools joke. But I guess a 60-something on Rotten Tomatoes means enough critics actually liked this film enough for this review to be legit.

As for me, I don't think I want to see Spring Breakers because a movie about such violent wanton debauchery makes me uncomfortable and its very production makes me think humanity's going to Hell. Now, if you excuse me, I'm going to go play Dead Space 3, a wantonly violent game about debacherous cultists attempting to drag humanity to Hell. I wonder if there's a hypocrite achievement.

But then, if half of everything I hear about Spring Break is true, I suspect America's gene pool could become 20% cooler if the swimming pools in Fort Lauderdale were filled with napalm. Maybe this movie just isn't for me, is what I'm saying, because I kinda already find a story about young idiots desperately seeking debauchery, to the point where they'd perform armed robbery to partake, to be tragic enough without it being spelled out to me.

wow.... I've seen this coming for a while now but I hoped you would redeem yourself, bob, but sadly you have lost me for good on this one :( At one stage I would get up early on a Saturday morning excited to see what new exciting review you had waiting for me, but no longer.... that review was a joke. a bad joke. a bad joke about an even worse movie. there is nothing deeper than debauchery going on here, which is fine if that's your thing, but don't pretend there is depth just to justify being excited about some b grade Disney rejects in bikinis. watching 2 hours of girls gone wild is far more edifying than this pathetic excuse for entertainment!
ps; no one really cares about spring break outside of America so please stop labeling anything to do with it as some kind of cultural touchstone when really its irrelevant to anyone who isn't actually on sprin break in America...

MacNille:
Oh fuck, there are poines in it? I don't want them fucking everywhere.

I can understand why. If they were the birth rates would be horrendously high.

PunkRex:
Why do I suspect its something along the lines of one of the characters fucking a Twilight Sparkle doll... do not want.

From what I've read, it's just them watching it while they're drunk.

attackshark:
i'm convinced this is some ill conceived joke on bob's part.

You and I are of the same mind. That said, I admit, I have a serious animosity to people that are being displayed in this movie; the obnoxious douchebags that can do anything they want and excel at it. Since I really doubt the movie is going to end with the women or for that matter Franco being murdered for screwing around too much, I just don't have any gusto to see it. I'm not deluded into thinking that every bad action has a consequence that may get you hurt, but just the whole "robbed a diner, went to spring break, and kept getting what they want with no problem" just epitomizes that douchebag mentality that I have a hatred for.

Akexi:

attackshark:
i'm convinced this is some ill conceived joke on bob's part.

You and I are of the same mind. That said, I admit, I have a serious animosity to people that are being displayed in this movie; the obnoxious douchebags that can do anything they want and excel at it. Since I really doubt the movie is going to end with the women or for that matter Franco being murdered for screwing around too much, I just don't have any gusto to see it. I'm not deluded into thinking that every bad action has a consequence that may get you hurt, but just the whole "robbed a diner, went to spring break, and kept getting what they want with no problem" just epitomizes that douchebag mentality that I have a hatred for.

Here, have a spoiler:

Isn't that MLP trend dead yet?

Also easy on the spoilers next time, Bob. That Britney Spears piano song is apparently a great scene but I didn't need to know everything that happens.

Duffeknol:
Isn't that MLP trend dead yet?

Nope, just on haitus as we wait 10ish months for them to churn out some new episodes.

Granted, there was once a point where My Little Ponies was a bigger meme than Forever Alone and Slenderman. Right now it's behind those, at #3. Even if it were #10, it would be huge, relatively speaking - to put it in perspective, Adventure Time has about 3.67% as much views So, MLP:FIM is still huge on the Internet, albeit not as huge as it was at its peak, we'll see what future seasons bring.

From what I gather, the big "ponies" inclusion in The Spring Breakers is some OC pony on a wall in a scene. Meh.

I am actually curious enough to see this movie now.

What is the trailer to that movie before the end I have no idea what that was about. I hope Superman is good to Bob it doesn't have to blow my mind just be better than Superman Begins!

Before you reach for your ticket money, remember that this movie makes no attempts to criticize the things the characters do. That will be your job. As Bob said, young teenagers will probably watch this and come out thinking, "Wow! Those characters are awesome. I wish I was like that." It's pretty upsetting stuff if you're disillusioned with this mindset, and you will probably leave feeling depressed and disappointed with society. My main point is, you probably shouldn't go to see this if you're looking to enjoy the experience.

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