Escape to the Movies: Spring Breakers

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sageoftruth:
Before you reach for your ticket money, remember that this movie makes no attempts to criticize the things the characters do. That will be your job. As Bob said, young teenagers will probably watch this and come out thinking, "Wow! Those characters are awesome. I wish I was like that." It's pretty heavy stuff if you're disillusioned with this mindset, and you will probably leave feeling depressed and disappointed with society. My main point is, you probably shouldn't go to see this if you're looking to enjoy the experience.

Like a number of art films (particularly Melancholia for me, ugh!) the objective is to make you ponder rather than to make you feel good. Honestly, like most modern art, I'm not sure if there's really a way to set this apart from the movies that genuinely do try to cash in on teenage naivety, since the main difference is whatever the director was thinking when he made it.

I really wish I could've thought of saying this somehow. I kept wandering back and forth in this thread thinking about what would make sense when bringing up that the movie isn't a piece about consequence, but you pretty much "ten steps ahead'd" the whole thing.

Kudos.

OlasDAlmighty:

snowfi6916:

OlasDAlmighty:
Wait, IT HAS POINIES?!?!

Definitely avoiding then.

So, you're gonna not watch a movie simply because it probably makes ONE reference to the show?

Get over yourself.

Were actually I being serious I don't see how it'd make me any more ridiculous than all the people with the exact opposite reaction. Honestly I have no interest in this movie, ponies or no ponies.

Always beware the dreaded Poe's Law.

Ferisar:

sageoftruth:
Before you reach for your ticket money, remember that this movie makes no attempts to criticize the things the characters do. That will be your job. As Bob said, young teenagers will probably watch this and come out thinking, "Wow! Those characters are awesome. I wish I was like that." It's pretty heavy stuff if you're disillusioned with this mindset, and you will probably leave feeling depressed and disappointed with society. My main point is, you probably shouldn't go to see this if you're looking to enjoy the experience.

Like a number of art films (particularly Melancholia for me, ugh!) the objective is to make you ponder rather than to make you feel good. Honestly, like most modern art, I'm not sure if there's really a way to set this apart from the movies that genuinely do try to cash in on teenage naivety, since the main difference is whatever the director was thinking when he made it.

I really wish I could've thought of saying this somehow. I kept wandering back and forth in this thread thinking about what would make sense when bringing up that the movie isn't a piece about consequence, but you pretty much "ten steps ahead'd" the whole thing.

Kudos.

Wow! Thanks. I was already having doubts about labeling it as an art film. Much appreciated.

Fun fact: The New York Times gave this film a perfect rating.
If the world's poshest magazine can find no flaws in a movie about a bunch of Y-gen girls getting into trouble at the world's most unorthodox party, maybe Spring Breakers did something right.

This movie sounds flat out depressing, like The Laramie Project except not based on a true story. I may watch it once, but any more than that and whatever message it's trying to get across would be lost.

Funny enough this is exactly what I expected. After hearing nothing about the plot I just googled the director. Seeing he was one of those artsy types, The actresses talking about how they want to be taken more seriously, and James franco being in it and having a pretty good track record on choosing projects (I didn't even know there was hate for him until Bob kept saying it) just gave me this feeling it was a surprise gem.

Is that me or bob spent five minute telling us it was great, but never actually explain why its great?

TwikTwok:
For the curious here is video exploring Harmony Korine, specifically his 2009 film: Trash Humpers.

http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-trash-humpers-4678636

For anyone considering going to see Spring Breakers I urge you to watch this so you know what kind of film maker you're dealing with.

Oh God. Even that (mostly) secondary exposure to Trash Humpers makes me want to NEVER see a Korine film.
*shudders*
I've seen a lot of things I wish I hadn't thanks to the internet. This firmly falls into the brain bleach category.
Kind of a shame too because up until this point Spring Breakers sounded at least a little intriguing.

What is the obsessino with Spring break? theo whole culture of spring break is some sort of abomination that should not even exist. and now they make mvoies gloryfying it....

Seriuosly, bob, you have a lot of knowledge, btu when it comes to comedies you just cant be trusted.

There is nothing that could possibly make me want to avoid watching or attending a movie or event more than the promise that it is going to be "important" or "defining" for my generation.
The significance of a work of art to the people it depicts and by the extension the cultural traction it will find is not something that can be permeditated, if it's statements are as broad and sweeping as any attempt to analyze a whole generation's condition must be.

On a more personal note, although I never much identified with this "Generation Y" I am apparantly a part of, I really don't think I need some patronizing Gen Xer like Korine to explain to me what is right and wrong with me and my peers. Especially since said Gen Xer was also the writer of the cringeinducingly chummy-yet-condescending "Kids", a movie which missed the point of the subculture it was trying to depict so spectacularly that it is almost on par with 50s PSAs in it's moralizing datedness.

I suspect, that if there ever emerges a movie that can be generally considered a "defining film" of the Generation Y (and there probably will be, since there has been at least one for every generation of the last 60 years), it will probably be written and directed by members of that geneneration.

Yeah, Stoker came out at my art house/local theater down the road from me. I'll go see that. I have a feeling I'm not the right mind set for something like this.

If I had an opinion on this movie (before even watching it) as strong as some of the people on this thread (be it positive or negative), I would definitely go see it.

Art is meant to be provocative/evocative.

I mean I think Picasso's Guernica is an awful pile of wank but it does upset me a little (Provocative) thus I would (begrudgingly) have to label it as art.

Monet's water lilies actually made me cry when I first looked at them IRL they were so beautiful.

Also Art.

However I haven't seen it either so what the fuck do I know?

But the simple fact it is drawing such attention to itself I am finding interesting.

I heard a lot of creepy rumors about this.

Ah, generation Y. The generation I supposedly should be a part of. But refuse to be tainted by any form of it's substance (aside from the cartoons because well, they rock mostly) as far as it goes, this film is coming out 10 years too late. Why Korine decided to bring this to the table I will never know. But I won't care either.

How can one make a film that should supposedly have any depth and complexity when it's about a character (Franco) who thinks he is the illegitimate son of Marshall Bruce Mathers the III. Like many kids in those days were. Norman Mailer would crank one out if he would see James Franco's character.

But the candy wrapped just-out-of-high-school girls like Selena Gomez, Vanessa Hudgens, Ashly Benson are a big stay-the-fuck-away hanging sign over it. No Bob, you are suffering (again) from the Sucker Punch syndrome. Looking for substance where there is not. I am looking forward to your 3 part explanation in the Big Picture where you still think it's a good film and people still will say no against it. And for those who think this film goes right over the head over everyone: then you are right. Even the top critics at RT don't get it. *coughs*

It's funny because according to the director himself, there is no deeper meaning to this movie. The guy just shot a movie.

"I never wanted to know why I did anything," Korine says. "I have no desire for any type of introspection at all. I don't ever ask myself any questions. I don't want answers."

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9076778/harmony-korine-riff-raff-james-franco-making-spring-breakers

I'm gonna see it since I read somewhere that its kinda like Hotline Miami in some way. The choice of soundtrack and the visuals make that comparison seem valid.

Interesting, might actually give it a look see.

I also find it funny how many people are dismissing the movie without even seeing it because of their own hang ups about dubstep and anybody that has the audacity to enjoy partying and drinking, THE HORROR. Everyone should be into MLP and being alone.

Anyways, thanks Bob.

TwikTwok:
For the curious here is video exploring Harmony Korine, specifically his 2009 film: Trash Humpers.

http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-trash-humpers-4678636

For anyone considering going to see Spring Breakers I urge you to watch this so you know what kind of film maker you're dealing with.

I was quite ambivalent of the movie and cosidered watching some time, but after that, I just wanna kick korine in the balls

Urh:
Even if this movie has as much substance and depth as Bob says it does, I suspect that it will go right over the heads of most of the movie's target audience.

Which might very well mean that everyone loves it, for vastly varying reasons. Those mythical "generation Y" kids love it for exactly what they perceive it is: a movie about barely-legals on spring break, while the slightly older audience likes it for its social commentary.

That right there, is filmmaking genius.

Doesn't mean though I'll be watching it anytime soon. Maybe later, probably never.

I honestly can't tell if this is a joke review or not.

I have a feeling that Bob is reading too much into this movie, seeing substance where there is none as he did in the Sucker Punch review. I definitely won't be seeing it at the cinema, but I might pick it up later. Also, the fact that there are ponies in it came as a bit of a surprise, but now that I think about it, it makes sense. Its presence has become too large to ignore.

For some reason, this movie reminds me of the awful 2001 movie "Sugar and Spice".

Redem:
Is that me or bob spent five minute telling us it was great, but never actually explain why its great?

He did thought, liked because it's trash but unapologetic about being trash even tough fully conscious of it and because the characters are dumb enough to truly believe the "MTV american dream".

I think this reasons are terribly dull, but seeing how involved Bob is with pop american culture (and has a weakness of sorts for kitsch aesthetics) I can see how it would be attractive to him.

Okay bob, first thing's first. How high were you when you saw Spring Breakers? I'm pretty sure you're looking way too deep into it. Now, I haven't seen it so, it just might actually be the masterpiece you're proclaiming it to be... That being said, I'm calling bullshit.

EDIT: Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to still laughing my ass off that Spain tied Finland 1-1 in the WC Qualifiers even though those bastards had 82% possession, 19 corners, and 29 shots. It's made only richer by the fact that Finland only had 1 shot on target, and it turned into a goal.

I saw Trash Humpers on the big screen at a film festival, was just video of people screwing around in fake old people masks for the entire movie. The idea of it and clips were better to watch than the movie.

I have also seen the movie Kids that he wrote which was OK I guess.

Ken Park was banned in Australia.

Some of the promotion for Spring Breakers has been the fake viral photo of the girls in bikinis getting arrested.

Tanakh:
He did thought, liked because it's trash but unapologetic about being trash even tough fully conscious of it and because the characters are dumb enough to truly believe the "MTV american dream".

I think this reasons are terribly dull, but seeing how involved Bob is with pop american culture (and has a weakness of sorts for kitsch aesthetics) I can see how it would be attractive to him.

thank for explaning, I guess I didn't catch the explanation cause for me as well that'sactually a reason to stay away

Redem:
thank for explaning, I guess I didn't catch the explanation cause for me as well that'sactually a reason to stay away

I think it's a sort of acquired taste, like how I grew to like moldy super strong cheeses, or how people get a taste for that bitter stuff called beer. I can say for example that a manga called "Even a monkey can draw manga" is one of my favorites for the meta humor and manga references, without that is a very poor work.

Jack_in_the_green:
Well, it's not a surprise Movie Bob did find also "Suckerpunch" to be a "great" movie.... So desperately trying to find any substance when there is none, it's reeaally pathetic.

And Redtails. Though at least this time, this movie is also picking up decents scores from others reviews too, 61 on Metacritics, which isnt terrible.

Also Satan isnt in the Old Testament, Bob.

Okay, something amazing has happened:

This movie, the trailer and previews sickened me. I can watch stuff like A Siberian Film, Saw, ridiculous movies which have simply horrible or retarded ideas. But seeing a preview of teen girls being slutty and gang wars and drugs and shit, I actually feel ill.

Maybe I'm jaded, but I don't find under-dressed teenage girls appealing. Especially if it's a commentary of teenagers of this generation. If I want to see stuff like this, I can go to Youtube or even the news. Normally I'm not bothered by anything. But seeing girls just being...teenagers mixed in with sex and drugs and gangs is just gross to me. The mindless orgies and stuff is just...eh...it just seems like such a pointless film to me. It can agree with my stance, sure...but I won't be watching it.

Seeing the mentioned Disney actresses like this makes me feel dirty... Am I alone in this?

Hey Bob, Listen to your stuff, think it's great, and was wondering if you've ever thought about reviewing TV shows. Just a thought. Stuff like House of Cards, Walking Dead, or any show your interested in reviewing. Of course, watching a single movie versus an entire season may be the reason why it might be more difficult to review, but its just a thought.

Strazdas:
What is the obsessino with Spring break? theo whole culture of spring break is some sort of abomination that should not even exist. and now they make mvoies gloryfying it....

Seriuosly, bob, you have a lot of knowledge, btu when it comes to comedies you just cant be trusted.

Its even more disturbing when you realize a lot of those people are supposed to be college students.

The future generations idolize this shit?

image

Damn kids these days!

A pretentious, vague existential statement buried beneath gelatinous yards of skanky teens, dubstep, unconvincing gunfights and aging spring break movie stereotypes? Yep, that about defines this generation.

Desert Punk:

Strazdas:
What is the obsessino with Spring break? theo whole culture of spring break is some sort of abomination that should not even exist. and now they make mvoies gloryfying it....

Seriuosly, bob, you have a lot of knowledge, btu when it comes to comedies you just cant be trusted.

Its even more disturbing when you realize a lot of those people are supposed to be college students.

The future generations idolize this shit?

image

Damn kids these days!

Him, it appears you are rapidlley aging into an old man. now don't panic! this symptom is affecting alot of people online, quickly turning bright, nice young college students, into old crotchety grandpas who hate everything now.

here is a transcript from one of our patients in our ward:
DOCTOR: What do you feel about the next generation of kids?
PATIENT:
"This generation. they don't know."
"They don't know."
"Kids these days."
"Kids these days."
"This generation."
"They don't know."
"They missed out."

Yeah....so much like others on the comments...I cant tell if Moviebob is just blowing it out his ass or this is a good movie...all honesty...I wouldnt see it...

And the whole ponies....Are your views down?

I was all on board with this, right up until the pony mention.

Even if this film was fine-tailored to be the greatest cinematic experience that the cosmos itself manifested as a gift to all mankind, I would still go to great lengths to avoid this for that simple fact.

Am I a prude?

Yes.

Fuck you.

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