No Right Answer: Worst Videogame Sidekick Ever

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As many have pointed out, Dan is no authority on the animal kingdom as echidnas are real animals. And Knuckles not only is a cool and capable character on his own but also had a perfectly valid reason to exist. He was the guardian of the floating island and the master emerald.

Back on topic: Tails is certainly not the best sidekick but in no way is he the worst. If you just want to talk Soinic characters then how about Chip from Sonic Unleashed? If Tails can get on your nerves then even a minute of Chip is enough to make a person fellatio a gunbarrel.

saintdane05:

He still invents. He is their pilot, but Rotor is more of their tech guy. And Tails saved the universe at age ten.
Think about that.

I think we are looking at it from different perspectives.

I just know the games and I watched Sonic underground when I was a kid, I don't know about any of the comics or cartoons or any of that shit. I have played quite a few Sonic games and in them Tails hasn't saved the world at all he just helps Sonic.

I understand you have taken the time out to read up on Sonic's backstory, but I am just apporaching Tails from a video game perspective, where compared to Sonic he is rather crap.

Or what about Bloodwing from Borderlands.
That thing was so fucking useless.

verdant monkai:

saintdane05:

He still invents. He is their pilot, but Rotor is more of their tech guy. And Tails saved the universe at age ten.
Think about that.

I think we are looking at it from different perspectives.

I just know the games and I watched Sonic underground when I was a kid, I don't know about any of the comics or cartoons or any of that shit. I have played quite a few Sonic games and in them Tails hasn't saved the world at all he just helps Sonic.

I understand you have taken the time out to read up on Sonic's backstory, but I am just apporaching Tails from a video game perspective, where compared to Sonic he is rather crap.

According to Sonic Adventure 2, he practically formulated the plan to destroy the ark, then saved Sonic's life and beat up Eggman. He stopped a nuke from hitting Station Square. Mostly. Kinda. He can also beat up Sonic pretty badly, at least in Sonic Battle.

CEDRIC THE OWL! CEDRIC THE OWL! CEDRIC THE FRICKIN OWL!

Tails was nothing but helpful. Even if he got lost, you were no worse off than you were if you were playing solo. As for Tails being better, in Sonic 2, Tails was worse than Sonic because he couldn't fly (if you were playing as him) and was slightly shorter, potentially missing you rings. In Sonic 3 Tails could fly, but then you had all those cool shield abilities that Sonic could use, like the fireball dash or the bubble bounce (not to mention Super Sonic). And Knuckles is badass.

Slippy, however, has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. By FAR the worst sidekick.

maconlon439:
CEDRIC THE OWL! CEDRIC THE OWL! CEDRIC THE FRICKIN OWL!

I would've watched this video if it were a comparison of him to Falco, who, unlike Slippy, is an obnoxious prat.

The worst videogame sidekick is my little brother. More useless and more annoying than anything you can think of.

They're really scraping the bottom with this one, at least update yourselves by playing the games within the last few years you guys were getting quite a few things wrong making the argument moot :P

I do indeed like civility in the debates ^.^

I sincerely hope that Elizabeth will not pop up on this list.

I'm still very fuzzy on how they intend to actually pull it off.

She can't be too smart, as spare processing power for hefty AI is pretty much out of the question with current (console) gear. And an overabundance of scripted events and actions only goes so far before it falls flat on the nose and rolls off the edge of the world.

I really like Slippy, he was like your younger brother who you wanted to look out for.
Falco......Falco! He is a douchebag, always insulting you and degrading you in front of team, he's the asshole, slippy is just the rookie

SoopaSte123:
Tails was nothing but helpful. Even if he got lost, you were no worse off than you were if you were playing solo. As for Tails being better, in Sonic 2, Tails was worse than Sonic because he couldn't fly (if you were playing as him) and was slightly shorter, potentially missing you rings. In Sonic 3 Tails could fly, but then you had all those cool shield abilities that Sonic could use, like the fireball dash or the bubble bounce (not to mention Super Sonic). And Knuckles is badass.

Slippy, however, has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. By FAR the worst sidekick.

He wasn't helpful at all. At best, he did nothing. At worst, he stole your air bubbles and hindered your Special Stage progress. And before you say "But he collects rings you miss!", having him around makes the game demand you to collect MORE rings than you'd have to if you were solo.

While Knuckles is supposed to be a real animal IE an echidna, he looks the least like his real life animal counterpart so I could hardly blame people who think he's made up entirely.

Stabby Joe:
While Knuckles is supposed to be a real animal IE an echidna, he looks the least like his real life animal counterpart so I could hardly blame people who think he's made up entirely.

Thank you, that's exactly what i was going for.

That is the strangest arguement why Tails is a bad side kick because he's better than Sonic.

Glad you guys went back to the number scoring system. The health bar thing didn't make sense to me.

Sonic's origin according to SA2 is that he was actually created by Eggman's grandfather. So yeah, he doesn't actually have a dad, in that game at least. Unless you count Gerald Robotnik as that. That would make him Eggman's uncle! Weird...

And thank you for pointing out how all Sonic's friends have the same abilities and more! That's something that's always pissed me off, but it hardly ever seems to come up. In fact that's the main reason I was put off Sonic Heroes back in the day. Not only did Tails and Knuckles have the same abilities as Sonic, everyone did! Even Big the fucking cat! Tails and Knuckles even ran alongside Sonic in the levels, as if to mock him. It makes no sense and totally undermines Sonic's whole reason for being!

You probably got this multiple times, but Tails did get his own game. It's apparently a metroidvania (and apparently a pretty good one too):

Scrustle:
Glad you guys went back to the number scoring system. The health bar thing didn't make sense to me.

Sonic's origin according to SA2 is that he was actually created by Eggman's grandfather. So yeah, he doesn't actually have a dad, in that game at least. Unless you count Gerald Robotnik as that. That would make him Eggman's uncle! Weird...

And thank you for pointing out how all Sonic's friends have the same abilities and more! That's something that's always pissed me off, but it hardly ever seems to come up. In fact that's the main reason I was put off Sonic Heroes back in the day. Not only did Tails and Knuckles have the same abilities as Sonic, everyone did! Even Big the fucking cat! Tails and Knuckles even ran alongside Sonic in the levels, as if to mock him. It makes no sense and totally undermines Sonic's whole reason for being!

Wasn't Shadow created by Gerald? (and besides that, doesn't Shadow's self-titled game imply that Shadow's design was from the Sonic Vs. Chaos prophecy?, as implied by the existence of the artificial Chaos enemies).

gamegod25:
As many have pointed out, Dan is no authority on the animal kingdom as echidnas are real animals. And Knuckles not only is a cool and capable character on his own but also had a perfectly valid reason to exist. He was the guardian of the floating island and the master emerald.

Back on topic: Tails is certainly not the best sidekick but in no way is he the worst. If you just want to talk Soinic characters then how about Chip from Sonic Unleashed? If Tails can get on your nerves then even a minute of Chip is enough to make a person fellatio a gunbarrel.

To be fair, isn't Chip savable from scrappydom by virtue of being able to form a stone mech using temples from across the planet? (haven't played all the way through Sonic Unleashed, just from what I heard).

*pushes glasses up*To be fair, Knuckles actually DOES fit your criteria for a good side-kick. Originally he's a quasi-villian who is just protecting his native island, which is the setting for Sonic 3. He's actually has a reason for being there. :P

Just want to mention that the first thing that came to mind as worst videogame sidekick was Fi, and I haven't even played Skyward sword.

"Don't write a sidekick unless you need one"

I can think of one reason why a sidekick could be necessary... But it's a bad reason.

...The main character spends the entire game not talking to anyone because nobody is on their side, and thus their character is marginalized to silent protagonist.

Of course, like I said, bad reason. If you're at a point where you've got a silent protagonist, maybe that's what you need to go with.

Either that or some internal monologue.

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Also, Yeah, Tails could use his own game.

ZexionSephiroth:
"Don't write a sidekick unless you need one"

I can think of one reason why a sidekick could be necessary... But it's a bad reason.

...The main character spends the entire game not talking to anyone because nobody is on their side, and thus their character is marginalized to silent protagonist.

Of course, like I said, bad reason. If you're at a point where you've got a silent protagonist, maybe that's what you need to go with.

Either that or some internal monologue.

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Also, Yeah, Tails could use his own game.

Look up Tails Adventures

Sotanaht:
Just want to mention that the first thing that came to mind as worst videogame sidekick was Fi, and I haven't even played Skyward sword.

This this this this this this this. I don't even understand why Tails would even be considered for this category, but Fi? Never has anyone annoyed me so much throughout the course of a game, ever.

.. This might sound really odd, but I do not think Slippy is the worst side kick ever.

He/she is close, but to me it's the Stray Dog in Skyrim. Seriously he just barks all the time even when you're doing something like say, enchanting items.. he will keep on barking. The dog will also be in the way everytime you attack something thus you end up killing it (then again every NPC in Skyrim gets in the way, but luckily the Dragonborn DLC has that companion ability of friendly fire).

Still, even if you do not attack anything, the dog will die by any other enemy even a wolf. Oh and you cannot sneak around with the dog, it'll give your position away instantly lol. I also feel bad because it's a dog and I never want to have it killed- yet the dog is to much of a hassle regardless if you can use a healing spell on it.

One of the things great about the Sonic comics and characters are that Archie Comics actually lets the characters age and change over the years.

I love the characters interacting with their families and when Bunny, and Antione got married. Still waiting on them to have some kids.

Tails is what 16 now in the series?

I was half expecting Chris to pop in at any moment to throw his hat into the ring.

DarklordKyo:

Wasn't Shadow created by Gerald? (and besides that, doesn't Shadow's self-titled game imply that Shadow's design was from the Sonic Vs. Chaos prophecy?, as implied by the existence of the artificial Chaos enemies).

Gerald made Sonic first, then he made Shadow after he was arrested and sent to prison because he wanted revenge. I think. Either way, Sonic was definitely his creation too.

I don't really know much about Shadow's origin from his game. I never played it much. From what I've hear maybe that evil alien thing lent some of his evil juice to Gerald to make Shadow. The game has so many endings though, I have no idea if any of it is even canon.

Okay is this gonna just dump on Sonic again? or is there going to be an actual debate?

(watches Video)

Okay so Dan used it to dump on tails (I'm biased, tails has been my favorite Sonic character since forever) but at least they came to the right decision. While I'll admit that tail's entire purpose was just to fill in a Second character space for the early days of multiplayer, he is at least useful and had a character expansion even in those first games. Who's piloting that plane in Sonic 3?

Slippy is again just filling a space, N64 needed four characters in everything for multiplayer purposes. However his character development goes from incompetent pilot toad to incompetent pilot toad who is a mechanic? on a ship with an auto-repair system? was i just misunderstanding that part of the game? When you finished the mission in starfox 64 the robot helper guy didn't fix everything, it was Slippy?

SEE? i know things about tails, they took time to somewhat characterize him. Slippy my entire paragraph on him is nothing but questions!

So yeah slippy in worse.

And tails can just spins his tails back and forth really fast pushing air either under him, to fly, or behind him to run at a speed comparable to sonic. Ting is he can only do it for a little while. Sonic doesn't get tired, Tails does, that is why he's the sidekick not the hero.

Slippy.... is so bad, so incompetent, so Scrappy-like that his idiocy actually manages to lock you into the game's false ending if you don't save his ass during one of the boss fights. During the boss fight in Sector X, he decides that it would be a really good idea for him to rush ahead of the rest of the group to take a few potshots at the boss.

Even if you've never played the game before, you can already tell how well this is going to end.

We need a rematch pitting Slippy against Navi from Zelda....

Perhaps entitled "Which video game tag along character did you want to kill most".

I mean sure, we all wanted Slippy to die when he was around, but at least he was only around once in a while usually, begging you to shoot someone off his tail. With Navi it was constant "Over here! Over here! Over here!" and to be honest even today I'm not even sure what Navi was, if it had a gender, or really much else about the character. All I know is that Navi constantly made me contemplate homicide... where I could occasionally forget Slippy existed.

There are ways that a sidekick can be bad:
1. Useless to gameplay. (Truly terrible sidekicks hinder gameplay)
2. Useless to the story. (Truly terrible sidekicks make the story worse with their presence.)
3. Annoying.
Alyx Vance is all of these.
1. She actively hinders gameplay. If she runs ahead and gets herself killed while you are breaking boxes or whatever, it's game over.
2. The fact that she tries to have conversations with you demonstrates how not to do the whole "No cutscenes, character does not have a voice" thing. Whenever she talks at you, "Gordon, hamfisted exposition, Gordon!" it destroys immersion, and proves that cutscenes are a good thing.
3. So very annoying. Her voice actress is terrible, her writing is terrible, and she just makes the whole game worse with her presence.
Alyx Vance is the worst sidekick in Gaming history.

I think we should discount A.I programming, if we don't then virtually every npc tagging along can be considered for the crown of Worst Sidekick. The Worst should be judged purely on the merits of the character itself.

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