BioShock Infinite Review: A Head in the Clouds

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BioShock Infinite Review: A Head in the Clouds

Columbia is nothing like Rapture, and that's a very good thing.

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Well that settles that, I just bought it! Thanks for the final drop :D

Yup. Need this game, right now.

To Amazon!

Damn I wish I had the money to pay for it myself.
Well we're movin on up,
To the east side.
To a deluxe apartment in the sky.

Edit: Also very glad to hear the combat requires some goddamned effort.

If you buy it now it still counts as pre-order. its win-win. wait for the reviews to say its worth getting so you know you won't get burned and get the bonus goodies(free games!)

Yep, that's it. Between this and nearly every single publication jizzing all over this game, my 'maybe pick it up' has now converted to 'will pick up first thing tomorrow'.

Sounds good. I've decided a long while ago to get this but I'm curbing my enthusiasm until I actually have it in my hands.
Without having tried it yet, I get the feeling that his is a game that is made the way it is supposed to be and meets a standard that should be true of all games or rather is worth the steep price of a triple A game.

HYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPE

OT: At long last, the game I've been waiting for has arrived.

Also, if Infinite has the ability to affect me emotionally like Persona 4 did, it'll be my GotY.

But is mr. DeWitt actually witty?

I don't know if it's because the review was so hyperbolic, but something made it read like it was dripping in sarcasm la the joke Zero Punctuation DNF review.

We'll see. I liked everything about the game except the ending. I'm sure in this forum I'll be in the minority but the ending did absolutely nothing for me.

So the bad guys are normal humans just following orders, the real enemy is political corruption and cultural decay, but the protagonist has no actual ability to speak or argue and instead EVERYTHING revolves around the player leading one helpless female NPC around and shooting people in the head?

Way to advance gaming as a medium, guys. Sexist escort missions, here I come!

I can't wait for the pre-scripted cutscene where the game goes "look how racist the people in Columbia are!" by like torturing some innocent people to death or whatever, and you can't actually shoot the bad guys or do anything about it, you just have to sit there and watch it happen because GAME WON'T LET YOU!

I'm guessing they were making it an actual sequel to Bioshock until Dishonored dropped. Then they were like "OMG! A trend! Change the whole franchise! Copy that shit!"

I honestly hope I'm wrong and the game turns out to actually be good, but to date the industry hasn't given me any reason to be optimistic.

EDIT: This post was an off-the-cuff response to an overly positive review of a game I hadn't played. My intention was to contrast my expectations with what I perceived as empty hype. Mike responds point by point in the very next post, and we had a little back-and-forth about the game. While I'm still not convinced it's the Best Game Evar or a worthy follow-up to System Shock 2, I now believe that Mike was sincere in his praise. It seems that it improves over Bioshock 2 in some tangible ways.

That said, other legitimate issues have come out of the woodwork as players pick the game apart and express their honest opinions. More communication, not less, is always in the best interest of gamers. But if you're going to respond to the ignorance I display in this post, please read ahead and make sure what you're saying hasn't already been said.

Bottom line: If you think 10/10 means perfect, and you think games must provide a serious challenge, then this is not a perfect game. It's just not for the reasons I assumed after watching the video review.

WarpZone:
So the bad guys are normal humans just following orders, the real enemy is political corruption and cultural decay, but the protagonist has no actual ability to speak or argue and instead EVERYTHING revolves around the player leading one helpless female NPC around and shooting people in the head.

Way to advance gaming as a medium, guys. Sexist escort missions, here I come!

I can't wait for the pre-scripted cutscene where the game goes "look how racist the people in Columbia are!" by like torturing some innocent people to death or whatever, and you can't actually shoot the bad guys or do anything about it, you just have to sit there and watch it happen because GAME WON'T LET YOU!

I'm guessing they were making it an actual sequel to Bioshock until Dishonored dropped. Then they were like "OMG! A trend! Change the whole franchise! Copy that shit!"

I honestly hope I'm wrong and the game turns out to actually be good, but to date the industry hasn't given me any reason to be optimistic.

"Way to advance gaming as a medium, guys. Sexist escort missions, here I come!" It's not an escort mission, I explicitly state that it's not an escort mission in the review. You are wrong.

"you just have to sit there and watch it happen because GAME WON'T LET YOU!" You are wrong.

"I'm guessing they were making it an actual sequel to Bioshock until Dishonored dropped." You are wrong.

"I honestly hope I'm wrong" Well congrats, because you ARE wrong!

Now stop being an Amazon-esque review bomber and shut your mouth before you play the game. <3

hmm. have to see. dint really like the first game, part 2 i dint get because of GFWL. this one...looks alright.

I am glad to see such a glowing review. I have mostly managed to stop myself from being hyped, but damn am I feeling impatient right now, I have had it pre-ordered for a while.

Preordered on Steam ages ago :D

Steam says it's unlocked on the 25th.

It is currently the 25th.

steam y u no let me play bioshock infinite?!

MikeWehner:

WarpZone:
So the bad guys are normal humans just following orders, the real enemy is political corruption and cultural decay, but the protagonist has no actual ability to speak or argue and instead EVERYTHING revolves around the player leading one helpless female NPC around and shooting people in the head.

Way to advance gaming as a medium, guys. Sexist escort missions, here I come!

I can't wait for the pre-scripted cutscene where the game goes "look how racist the people in Columbia are!" by like torturing some innocent people to death or whatever, and you can't actually shoot the bad guys or do anything about it, you just have to sit there and watch it happen because GAME WON'T LET YOU!

I'm guessing they were making it an actual sequel to Bioshock until Dishonored dropped. Then they were like "OMG! A trend! Change the whole franchise! Copy that shit!"

I honestly hope I'm wrong and the game turns out to actually be good, but to date the industry hasn't given me any reason to be optimistic.

"Way to advance gaming as a medium, guys. Sexist escort missions, here I come!" It's not an escort mission, I explicitly state that it's not an escort mission in the review. You are wrong.

"you just have to sit there and watch it happen because GAME WON'T LET YOU!" You are wrong.

"I'm guessing they were making it an actual sequel to Bioshock until Dishonored dropped." You are wrong.

"I honestly hope I'm wrong" Well congrats, because you ARE wrong!

Now stop being an Amazon-esque review bomber and shut your mouth before you play the game. <3

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OT: Looks terrific, but I'm terrible at shooters that aren't Borderlands, and the re playability of Bioshock games is really low. Glad to hear it turned out alright.

VMK:
But is mr. DeWitt actually witty?

Yes, he is witty and pretty and gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay~!

Sorry, had to make that reference. I will go into the corner now.

Daystar Clarion:
Preordered on Steam ages ago :D

Steam says it's unlocked on the 25th.

It is currently the 25th.

steam y u no let me play bioshock infinite?!

DAYSTAR!

You know the rules! No pre-ordering games. They are the evil that corrupts our youth and eats ours babies, all the while destroying the gaming industry!

CAPTCHA: Face the music.

MikeWehner:

WarpZone:
So the bad guys are normal humans just following orders, the real enemy is political corruption and cultural decay, but the protagonist has no actual ability to speak or argue and instead EVERYTHING revolves around the player leading one helpless female NPC around and shooting people in the head.

Way to advance gaming as a medium, guys. Sexist escort missions, here I come!

I can't wait for the pre-scripted cutscene where the game goes "look how racist the people in Columbia are!" by like torturing some innocent people to death or whatever, and you can't actually shoot the bad guys or do anything about it, you just have to sit there and watch it happen because GAME WON'T LET YOU!

I'm guessing they were making it an actual sequel to Bioshock until Dishonored dropped. Then they were like "OMG! A trend! Change the whole franchise! Copy that shit!"

I honestly hope I'm wrong and the game turns out to actually be good, but to date the industry hasn't given me any reason to be optimistic.

"Way to advance gaming as a medium, guys. Sexist escort missions, here I come!" It's not an escort mission, I explicitly state that it's not an escort mission in the review. You are wrong.

"you just have to sit there and watch it happen because GAME WON'T LET YOU!" You are wrong.

"I'm guessing they were making it an actual sequel to Bioshock until Dishonored dropped." You are wrong.

"I honestly hope I'm wrong" Well congrats, because you ARE wrong!

Now stop being an Amazon-esque review bomber and shut your mouth before you play the game. <3

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Capitano Segnaposto:

Daystar Clarion:
Preordered on Steam ages ago :D

Steam says it's unlocked on the 25th.

It is currently the 25th.

steam y u no let me play bioshock infinite?!

DAYSTAR!

You know the rules! No pre-ordering games. They are the evil that corrupts our youth and eats ours babies, all the while destroying the gaming industry!

CAPTCHA: Face the music.

TF2 hats have a huge amount of power over me :D

I didn't like the other two, but this looks good. Do I need to have played the others?

ccdohl:
I didn't like the other two, but this looks good. Do I need to have played the others?

Not at all. There is a tiny bit of fan service, but nothing that will confuse you. It stands completely on its own.

ccdohl:
I didn't like the other two, but this looks good. Do I need to have played the others?

But you should play BioShock (the first one, anyway) because it is brilllllllllyunnnnnnnt.

I'm wondering... Bioshock was underwater, Bioshock Infinite is up in the sky. It would only be logical for the next "Shock" game to take place in space. Perhaps in the future. With, oh, I dunno, some kind of evil AI villain. :)

Capitano Segnaposto:

VMK:
But is mr. DeWitt actually witty?

Yes, he is witty and pretty and gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay~!

Sorry, had to make that reference. I will go into the corner now.

Is this... Is this "The Producers" refference? The one with Matthew Broderick?

More OT: BTW, is there a new game+ option? Because I like those.

Susan Arendt:

ccdohl:
I didn't like the other two, but this looks good. Do I need to have played the others?

But you should play BioShock (the first one, anyway) because it is brilllllllllyunnnnnnnt.

I've heard. I actually started it, but I was put off by how the little booths would just bring me back to life over and over again when I died. Maybe I should just blaze through it on easy for the story.

VMK:
But is mr. DeWitt actually witty?

Maybe it's a Dutch name, which would make him "the white".

Wait a minute this review is too positive,not one negative was mentioned......IMPOSSIBLE Nothing on this earth can be perfect as that would mean that it has no flaws making it divine,but the game was made by humans which means if the game is divine in it perfection.....so must be the developers,but this is impossible for a human as our brains and bodies are designed in such a way that we will make mistakes,which means we can't be divine and that this game inturn can't be perfect unless,that this game must be made by gods,wait why would they make a game unless.........THIS GAME IS CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!It all makes sense target gamers who are more likely to be atheist's and convert them to Christianity,but why?.......Unless GOD needs us to believe in him in order to exist in this reality, EVERY ONE DON"T PLAY THIS GAME,by doing so you will be mind controlled by god for his sinister purposes.
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knight steel:
Wait a minute this review is too positive,not one negative was mentioned......IMPOSSIBLE Nothing on this earth can be perfect as that would mean that it has no flaws making it divine,but the game was made by humans which means if the game is divine in it perfection.....so must be the developers,but this is impossible for a human as our brains and bodies are designed in such a way that we will make mistakes,which means we can't be divine and that this game inturn can't be perfect unless,that this game must be made by gods,wait why would they make a game unless.........THIS GAME IS CHRISTIAN PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!It all makes sense target gamers who are more likely to be atheist's and convert them to Christianity,but why?.......Unless GOD needs us to believe in him in order to exist in this reality, EVERY ONE DON"T PLAY THIS GAME,by doing so you will be mind controlled by god for his sinister purposes.
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Umm.... let's see. Flaws.... ummmmmmm.

The iron sight on the pistol is kind of lame. It has a point, like a sharp point, rather than a flat top, which kind of bugged me. Some of the NPCs have the same face. You can't fly a giant dragon.

That's all I can come up with at the moment.

You said the saim thing about ME3, I don't trust your review. I'm going to wait for the independent reviewers to see if it's worth it.

Aaannnd poor Tomb raider is overshadowed by this pseudo-philosophical tripe

Don't get me wrong.I am sure the game is enjoyable.And moreover, i will have fun with it.But the philosophy in the bioshock series never did anything to me, honestly.And i think the series could be better off without it.Bioshock 2 had great potential (the cult of Eleanor and all) but failed miserably, it merely wallowed in it's predecessor's IDENTICAL gameplay.

Tomb Raider on the other hand is just a great cinematic survivor story, that is really touching.It will be lucky to win anything considering how each reviewer is jizzing their pants.This is saddening to me, but oh well.At least i have a good game to play.No one will ever understand what crystal dynamics has done, and how far TR itself has come.

Also "CHECK UR PULSE IF U DON"T THING TEH GAMEZZZZ IS OSUMMM???" is something i've yet to see any professional review ever say.Good job escapist.

AdrianRK:
You said the saim thing about ME3, I don't trust your review. I'm going to wait for the independent reviewers to see if it's worth it.

I said nothing about Mass Effect 3.

Also, what? I'm not a computer, I'm just a dude who plays games and happens to be lucky enough to write about them as my job. This wasn't a crowdsourced review, it's just me. Yes, it's Escapist's official review, but as far as opinions go, that's just what this is.

You're fine to want to check out any and all other reviews before making a decision, but don't jump into the thread of people discussing the review and asking questions just to tell everyone that (for whatever reason) you don't trust me.

MikeWehner:

"Way to advance gaming as a medium, guys. Sexist escort missions, here I come!" It's not an escort mission, I explicitly state that it's not an escort mission in the review. You are wrong.

"you just have to sit there and watch it happen because GAME WON'T LET YOU!" You are wrong.

"I'm guessing they were making it an actual sequel to Bioshock until Dishonored dropped." You are wrong.

"I honestly hope I'm wrong" Well congrats, because you ARE wrong!

Now stop being an Amazon-esque review bomber and shut your mouth before you play the game. <3

I watched the video again to make sure I didn't miss anything you said about Elizabeth. You talk a lot of about Elizabeth's abilities to do things like resupply and spawn in cover. You never explicitly state that it's not an Escort Mission. Maybe I should unpack what I think an "escort mission" is. An escort mission is when an NPC exists who is important to moving the plot forward, but is not a powerful combatant. This results in them dying and causing you to fail the mission unless you CONSTANTLY babysit them. Hell, even NPCs who CAN defend themselves tend to walk in front of your gun while you're trying to shoot in other games. So if you say Bioshock Infinite is avoiding this, then I say good for them. (With the caveat that non-annoying NPC AI is like enemies who use grenades intelligently. I'll believe it when I see it.) Glad I was wrong.

No contrived "you have to watch the bad guys kick the puppy and twirl their mustache, BECAUSE EMOTIONS!" moment? Glad I was wrong.

I admit the last thing I saw about Bioshock infinite prior to watching your video review was an old trailer where they show off the sky city and the lighting engine and everything is deserted and then a thing attacks the camera, so that led to the expectation that it would be like Bioshock 1 and 2 but with a sky city. Now that I stop and think about it, creating a ton of NPC dialogue and behaviors and clean clothing on all the models would take a lot of time, so it's ridiculous to think they were planning on making a destroyed city like Bioshock 1 and then changed it when Dishonored came out. So, glad I was wrong.

You can see why people would react this way, though, right? Prominent developers at industry events are explicitly telling us what we've suspected for years: that they are idiots who think polygons equals emotions. Games like Aliens: Colonial Marines are screaming "We are liars, we are liars, we are liars! Don't believe us!" every time they release another "vertical slice" bullshit video. This is the type of reaction that the entire industry is conspiring (albeit probably inadvertently) to engender.

Anyway, Kudos to you for responding the way you did. That takes guts. You're putting your credibility on the line to back up your statements. This doesn't strike me as the way a typical component of the industry hype machine would behave. Maybe you're even telling the truth. Maybe Bioshock really is some kinda transcendental emotional uber storytelling combat game.

Man, wouldn't that be nice? Honestly, I would settle for a decent first person shooter with a cool world and which doesn't trip all over itself in the gameplay. But they can't advertise that, they can't say "this game is pretty good, here's what's in it," they have to promise us the BEST GAME EVAR every single game that comes out.

So yeah. Hoping for the best. Sorry for being overly pessimistic. But you can see why my expectations would be so low, even after watching your review, right? Although I really can't think of anything you could have done differently. It's not like you could preface your review with "I know this sounds like hype, but no, the game actually IS good, honest." Actually by referencing the TV campaign you kinda sort of did do that. Didn't work. Huh.

SoMuchSpace:
Aaannnd poor Tomb raider is overshadowed by this pseudo-philosophical tripe

Don't get me wrong.I am sure the game is enjoyable.And moreover, i will have fun with it.But the philosophy in the bioshock series never did anything to me, honestly.And i think the series could be better off without it.Bioshock 2 had great potential (the cult of Eleanor and all) but failed miserably, it merely wallowed in it's predecessor's IDENTICAL gameplay.

Tomb Raider on the other hand is just a great cinematic survivor story, that is really touching.It will be lucky to win anything considering how each reviewer is jizzing their pants.This is saddening to me, but oh well.At least i have a good game to play.No one will ever understand what crystal dynamics has done, and how far TR itself has come.

Also "CHECK UR PULSE IF U DON"T THING TEH GAMEZZZZ IS OSUMMM???" is something i've yet to see any professional review ever say.Good job escapist.

The irony of this post is delicious.

Anyone else want a taste?

So very delicious...

So, does Elizabeth do everything on her own? Is there some strategy or pattern to the stuff she pulls from the Tears, is it random, or can you give her orders?

Just a small question; this one definitely looks worth a buy.

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