No Right Answer: Videogame That Should Be A TV Show The Most

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geier:
I'm for Fallout, the whole Fallout universe, not only FO3 (and please never FONV).
But only, when the Ghouls have no major role. We have enough Zomies in the media already.

But when forced to choose between what is given, i would take Bioshock.

you're wording makes very little sense...you say the whole universe....not only 3 and then say never to the idea of New Vegas it sounds rather contradictory....please elaborate...what would be so bad about a game set in the Mojave or one with a Ghoul as a character.

OlasDAlmighty:

Kordie:
The Fallout universe would be great for a TV show, especially on the heels of the Walking Dead. A gritty post-apocalyptic world that follows the population of a vault after it opens and tries to establish a city. You've got raiders, scavangers, traders, mercenaries, mutants, ghouls, and religious nuts all over the place! Damn you, now I want this to be a thing... Hurry up Wasteland 2, I needs me a fix.

As someone currently playing through Fallout 3 for the first time I second this. Every aspect of this idea has been done before, just not all at once. Just take the TV show Jericho, throw in some Walking Dead, add maybe a pinch of Revolution and boom you're there.

Though all three of those shows were kinda bad too.

yeah show set in the Fallout universe would be amazing with all the previously established history and everything I see no end to the potential...I think it could and should be done...Set it up as taking place before as a lead into or after one of the games....to give a sense of the time the characters could touch but not at length dwell on the stories of the games.

Batman Arkham...I mean, they made a show about Superboy and that shit went on for 10 years, so why not Batman?

Assassin's Creed would work better as a TV show because it has more cross-media experience already, with graphic novels and the movies set just before ACII and after Revelations. I don't think Mass Effect or Bioshock would work because a huge part of their stories comes from the player's decisions.

Mass Effect might work because there's way too much to contain into a movie and it would allow you to see some of the minor events that happen rather than just the big story related missions. So yeah, ME wouldn't make a bad show.

Bioshock lacks a strong lead character. It might make a decent artsy movie, but due to having a silent protagonist, TV show would be kind of difficult. Bioshock Infinite on the other hand, has a well developed lead character(That would be Elizabeth, it's really her story more than Booker's) some pretty intriguing supporting characters, a great story and action that would be an outright joy to watch, if not a little difficult to make look right in a live action show/movie. Have I mentioned I REALLY like Bioshock Infinite? Seriously, it's taking the top spot from a combined force of the original Bioshock and Shadow of the Colossus.

I'd like to think Mass Effect would work as a TV show, different but not too much and is practically done in episodes anyway with a diverse range of characters. The only problem as mentioned before is the issue of Paragon/Renegade, but I wouldn't mind having the team decide what he did too much.
As for Bioshock...... yeah no. Not enough real character interaction and Jack's so much of a blank slate. Plus the loss of the message on gamers would be a bit of a downer. And the fact as they mentioned it might be just too different from what people expect. However a series set in the Bioshock universe could work a lot better, especially if they set it in "pre-raptured Rapture", I like the idea of being shown what happens in Raptures Prime.

Mass Effect has a big enough story to adapt well enough to a TV show. Plus there's prequel/side story potential.

As for a repeat, I say go to back to the "Worst Videogame Movie" and try it regularly. Just for fun.

"...this post Lost World we live in..."

For a moment I though we were talking about Jurassic Park.

Starcraft. It's even nicely broken up into three seasons for you. Probably wouldn't bother with Brood War or SC2 though.

Other suggestion would be Syndicate but that would involve more adaptation.

I don't think Bioshock would make a good TV show. I just don't think the story lends itself to an episodic format.
Mass Effect could work, however the problem I see is that adapting it to television would involve defining Shepard as a character whereas previously Shepard's character was only defined by how the Player played the games.

Incidentally, love the new logo and layout.

Ishal:

Mass Effect, yes. But I feel like what Chris said about studios knowing what to do with it could be a huge hazard. They might try and make it into something it isn't, or something it shouldn't be.

Well to be fair, so did the people who made the game.

Honestly though, we'll see a Mass Effect movie trilogy and it will be directed by Micheal Bay, and then we will know there is a god and that he hates us.

Devoneaux:

Ishal:

Mass Effect, yes. But I feel like what Chris said about studios knowing what to do with it could be a huge hazard. They might try and make it into something it isn't, or something it shouldn't be.

Well to be fair, so did the people who made the game.

Honestly though, we'll see a Mass Effect movie trilogy and it will be directed by Micheal Bay, and then we will know there is a god and that he hates us.

Well thats the problem when you start a trilogy with Bioware developing it, and end with BioEAre developing it. You may agree with me, or not, but with the way EA is now and the direction they are taking, the old Bioware is gone, never to return. At least not as what it was before.

Honestly it could work, what Chris said about them expanding the arcs of the characters into episodic formats could be great.

Today's episode we have cmdr shepard going down to a planet to rescue a bunch of children being sold into slavery by batarians, his companions are wrex, mordin, and jack. Just have there be different episodes like that scattered throughout a season, they could even exist in a vacuum away from the main plot of the show. But to be honest, I don't care if anything gets made into a TV show.. and I really don't care if it gets made into a movie. I just played Bioshock:Infinte and that experience was better than the last 5 awesome movies I saw in theaters. I just think videogames are more entertaining, and they shouldn't sacrifice what they are only to be adapted to what may be a lower form of entertainment than what they are as videogames.

TV is another matter, but right now there is a big problem with TV. People see shows getting canceled all the time so they refuse to watch the first season and get invested in a show for fear of it being cancelled, and because they do this... guess what? It gets cancelled.

But seriously, Chris, Dan, Kyle. Love you guys, as soon as I saw the Big Daddy I was like "OH THEY'RE TALKING BOUT BIOSHOCK AGAIN!!!" I dig the new logo and layout.

Mass Effect would be a great show if 1) Shepard was left out of it and 2) it does not rehash the story of the games. The Mass Effect universe is amazing with great, fleshed out worlds and cultures and a huge potential for a variety of great stories. Incidentally this is what I'm hoping for in the next ME game.

Also, I think Fire Emblem would make an amazing anime. Get on it Nintendo.

geier:
I'm for Fallout, the whole Fallout universe, not only FO3 (and please never FONV).
But only, when the Ghouls have no major role. We have enough Zomies in the media already.

But when forced to choose between what is given, i would take Bioshock.

the problem with your argument against ghouls is they aren't zombies, sure they look decayed and dessicated but most don't hunger for your flesh and really even feral ghouls don't hunger for flesh per say, they are just animalistic husks of former humans, they have lost their "self" and have reverted back to base instincts. a fair number of key story points rely on ghouls in the Fallout universe and there is a good couple of ghoul followers you can get in all the games.

and really if any of the Fallout Games is MADE FOR TV ready it's gotta be New Vegas, there's enough primary secondary and side stories to delve into they could run that for 5-6 seasons easy

Huh... well personally I think you guys goofed in choosing games that might work better as movies than ongoing TV series but okay...

Oh, and why can't Chris talk about videogames anymore?

Fallout all the way. The setting/aesthetic/tone is what is key about that world, not the characters, though some are very unique.

Watch the movie Nuka Break and the first season and tell me that would not be totally badass with an expanded budget, though I love the characters of as the creators for Nuka Break really hit the tone PERFECTLY!

Mr_Terrific:
Batman Arkham...I mean, they made a show about Superboy and that shit went on for 10 years, so why not Batman?

Basically that would be Batman: The Animated Series. And it was awesome...

OT: Mass Effect all the way. Hell, ME2 is structured exactly like a TV show and easily work in that dynamic.

UberPubert:
Mass Effect would be almost too easy if it weren't for the alien cast members not being able to look very much like their in-game counterparts. Asari are even the easiest ones and their tentacle heads would still look kind of goofy as just rubber scalps and blue make-up, but almost every other species has an inhuman body type. But as far as the episodic nature and the dialogue scenes go the show practically writes itself, because the games so closely resemble your average sci-fi space opera.

Bioshock is the more intriguing idea but would nearly be impossible to make into a show while maintaining the original game's essence because Jack is such a non-character and the gameplay reflects that in that all he really does for the majority of the game is sneak, scavenge and kill things. BUT I think it could work as a big-budget miniseries that more or less follows the rise and fall of Rapture leading up to just before Jack's arrival through the perspective of a handful of it's citizens, maybe including Ryan, Fontaine, and Tenenbaum.

If it ever happened, I see Mass Effect looking like Stargate, and Bioshock like Grimm. I leave that to you guys whether that's a good or bad thing.

Mass Effect's almost too easy, budget considerations aside. The mission structure already sets things up for episodes and arc, with room to add in new adventures starting the supporting cast. Only real problems come in pissing people off with the various choices to be made from the games. You just know there would be bitching about Kaden vs Ashley and the like.

Bioshock might serve miniseries style. It's biggest problem is not enough material to hold for long, leading to poorly written filler or extensions. I see it like Arrow: primarily told in Rapture's past as flashes from the present as Jack goes through the ruins and seeing how things got there.

Scarim Coral:
Honestly I would of picked Fallout 3 over Bioshock as to me Bioshock seen to have a limited cast in my view when it come to being a TV show.

AS for the request, not too sure. I gonna have to look at past episodes comments that I was quite dissapointed on.

Whenever I see someone suggest Fallout for a TV show I never can quite imagine what type of show it would be, the setting and scenes seem way more suited for a movie (there are pretty decent post apoc movies out there) rather than a show.

To be OT:

As far as Mass Effect goes for some reason I'd like to see it with more of a Stargate SG1 type of feel rather than the usually suggested Startreck vibe. In SG1 you can really get the feeling that these guys are all military types and are out to do a dangerous job while still getting across the character development and backstory of the world. In Startreck it just never seemed like they were actually in the military and there never seemed to be any real danger or sense of doing something important (just my opinion, It might have something to do with the outfits though also I didn't watch much)

Bioshock seems to me like it would make a better movie, especially after seeing Jim's defense of The Wild Wild West which showed you can make crazy steampunk worlds on the bigscreen without the movie being animated.

Darth_Payn:
Assassin's Creed would work better as a TV show because it has more cross-media experience already, with graphic novels and the movies set just before ACII and after Revelations. I don't think Mass Effect or Bioshock would work because a huge part of their stories comes from the player's decisions.

Great idea actually, I never even considered AC.

It already has a deep storyline with a lot of chances for twists and betrayals and the episode structure would be easy as hell to set up with the story of the past assasins (maybe even more than one at a time) running parallel to the modern story (maybe even future stories to spice things up).

Plus the Templars just make such good villains with their limitless power, ruthless tactics, and somewhat understandable goal to try and save humanity from itself through the power of apples.

I really like this idea now that I think about it.

Fallout, Fire Emblem and, Chrono Trigger are the series that I would have picked because

Walking Dead and mad men are two popular shows as such the 50's feel to the Apocalypse would differentiate whist not alienating an audience.

Game of Thrones is a big thing, like a really big thing and this series is RIPE for the twists and turns a T.V. series based off of any of the "Continuities" could yield.

Chrono Trigger, A vaguely Science fiction TV show about traveling through time that goes from mystic fantasy to a post apocalyptic future, all trying to eventualy defeat Lavos. why Because Dr Who is kinda a big thing and Chrono Trigger could provide something close yet unique that the Doctor and friends can not.

Day of the Tentacle. It would be in a somewhat Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle format with a main villain (the Tentacles) and each episode would begin with the Tentacle(s) coming up with some dastardly plan to CONQUER THE WORLD, usually by changing history. You then have the three main characters Bernard, Hoagie and Laverne travelling through time in the Chron-o-johns to wherever the Tentacles have changed history, and of course they always come out victorious. It would be educational and exciting. Of course it would have to be a cartoon but all the better, right?

Eliwood10:
Also, I think Fire Emblem would make an amazing anime. Get on it Nintendo.

Nah, a Fire Emblem anime would never work 'cause there's a high chance they wouldn't pair Sully with Kellam and I would be having none of that because together they are both unstoppable and kawaii as ****.

I don't want to watch 30-second ads to see trivial game-talk every god-damned time!
Gaming news and speculation would draw more viewers as a typed column.

sick of this $#*%, didn't even watch.

The thing about Mass Effect is, it reminds me more of Babylon 5 than Star Trek.

Out of curiosity, does anyone remember the last time the drinking round won someone the match? For I do not, and I am curious. I think they've gotten too good at holding it in while drinking!

No. Let's keep it real. Bioshock would be on HBO and Mass effect would be some awful fox one off. I'm sure executives would know what to do with mass effect, they'd know how to advertise and merchandise it into the ground. Make a show about Andrew Ryan building Rapture from the ground up and the people who helped him build it and the people who eventually tore it down to what it was at the beginning of the game and I'll show you the biggest thing since whatever the hell you can't get away from at work since nobody can stop talking about it. You don't have to know a single thing about Bioshock to be compelled by it's story because it's simple and it plants human characters in an environment that has the potential to bring out the best and worst in them. Bioshock is a steam-punk sandbox of human emotion under miles of ocean and Mass Effect is 'Star-Trek Re-skinned: Spoiler, Shepard is Jesus'.

Captcha: You're Welcome

I laughed at the DS9 rant near the start. "We did that." "We did that too." "Did you even watch DS9?"

Mass Effect would easily fall into the "militant star-trek" style that was cleverly pointed out with DS9. So that's a no-brainer. It might actually be scrutinized for being unoriginal. The problem with Bioshock is that between props, makeups, and FX shots, it'd likely run into the same hurdle it hit in the film market - budget. It would be one expensive show to make and not look terrible. But if the budget was floated and it did succeed, Infinite would make a great spinoff series.

What episode to re-do?
The fast food one!
It is still one of my favorite ones :D

I would love for you guys to revisit 'this generation's Star Wars' especially post: Avengers.

I would love to see an HBO Halo series. Forward Unto Dawn while not perfect (still pretty good), proved a show in the series can work and would love to see an expansion of the concept.

I want Dan to defend Fallout 3 while Kyle takes Bioshock.

My vote for show to redo, this one. While I agree with Mass Effect being a good television show, Bioshock on the other hand would not make a good TV series, without a lot of changes. In fact I do not believe that it should have even qualified for this debate based on your number 2 qualification you set in the beginning. It does not really have a strong base of characters that demand a show. There are really only 3 strong characters in the game, but they only work as very important side characters. While those characters might be great they are really not enough for a TV series. I cant think of one TV show where there is only a single main character. So either they would have to make up some new characters or change one of those three to become a main character.

Don't get me wrong, I think the world of Bioshock has the potential to make a great TV series. It is just that TV series would have to be quite different than the game character wise.

To me, Bioshock would lend itself to being more of a movie (if we're talking strictly translating the games - story and all - to a tv show). Really they'd have to monkey around with the format and story too much to make it fit a TV series. With the exception of Infinite, the main character is often just running around by themselves, shootin' up splicers and looking for audio recordings. Really the only way they could turn it into a series would be to set it just before the shit goes down in Rapture. Show the build-up to the revolt and finally the revolt itself. You couldn't really go directly from the game's story if you're trying to make a Bioshock TV series.

[Spoiler=And considering what we find out in the ending to Bioshock (obviously this contains Bioshock Infinite ending spoilers)] We know that the story is essentially the same no matter where you place it in the Bioshock...ahem..."universes". "Constants and Variables, there's always a man, a girl, and a city." And it always ends up horribly. The problem with that as a major theme is that it means that at it's core, the plot will always be the same. This actually leads me to wonder if they'll ever make another Bioshock...the ending to Infinite was pretty damn heavy. But that's another discussion for another topic. The point is that to keep to the theme as set by Infinite's ending, even if they tried an original story like "A city built in the depths of an active volcano" or something, we'd all already know what was going to happen: guy that runs the city is going to go mad with power and eventually cause a revolution against himself.[/spoiler]

ME on the other hand could be made into a movie or a TV series. Each major mission could lend itself to an episode or two. But beyond that, since the universe of ME is so expansive, they could go completely off the rails with an original story just set in the ME universe and it would be 100% doable. They've got different races, worlds, political and economic relations between species, etc. There's so much rich material to draw from, you could do pretty much anything you wanted with it and it would still likely pull in high ratings.

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