Zero Punctuation: Lego City Undercover

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Yahtzee mentioning third party games for the Wii U reminded me of how Rayman Legends was supposed to be Wii U exclusive, but Ubisoft decided be tossers and let Nintendo in the dust.

Not to mention, once I actually got the freaking thing set up, I have to say I really love the Wii U. It's fun, particularly NintendoLand and Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed.

How Yahtzee reviews a game on a Nintendo console:
1/3 of the episode is wasted on bashing Nintendo as a company
1/3 on bashing the Nintendo console
1/6 on bashing Nintendo fans
1/6 of proving that he didn't play the game for longer than 20 minutes
Every fucking time.

Well I can certainly confirm that the LEGO series as a whole seems largely geared towards parents working with their children, as that seems to be the lion's share of e-mails I get from people who read my guides, so I did feel it important to make a special note that the game was entirely single-player. Shame, really. I'm sure they could have thrown together something with a second player using a Remote and Chuck and just controlling Frank Honey or something.

Now I'm wondering if the hat and hair people get along alright.

I've pinpointed the exact reason studs annoy me. Visually I find them very distracting as they miraculously go from an in game 3d location to your 2d HUD. Makes me feel ill. Well weird.

Farther than stars:
A game with a cyborg ninja dressed in tank tops, who is also the mayor and is raising money to bring his dead mother back to life... and for all I know that is actually the real plot of "Metal Gear Rising: Revengence".

I'm fairly sure it isn't, but I'm also fairly sure that game would be awesome. It would probably be a JRPG, possibly an action adventure.

Yopaz:

AdamG3691:

There are some differences between Tri and 3U, but the same premise is there, that's the part he hates.
um, he never even got to the great jaggi...

hell I don't think he even got past the 1* urgent.

it wasn't that he didn't like grinding that he said he disliked, it's that the hardest thing he fought outside the "ohshitrun" lagiacrus fight was an aptonoth

Oh, he didn't get to the great jaggi fight? Then why has he written about it in his column?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/7635-Monster-Hunter-Tri.2

Basically this involved me smashing my shortsword against his flank over and over and over again, chipping away at his wretchedly massive amount of health for half an hour because every other weapon was so fucking slow to use that he'd jump out of the way and slap me across the chops with his tail in the time it took to swing them. This isn't even mentioning the weapon degradation system, for which someone badly deserves a mongoose up the trouser leg. Every ten hits or so (with the stupid, stupid Wiimote controls) my sword would lose sharpness, to the point that every other blow would bounce ringingly off the monster's hide as if I'd hit the thing with a fucking bamboo walking stick. So I'd have to pick between trying to get through the fight with a half-useless weapon or run off to slide a whetstone slowly along the blade with even odds whether or not the boss and all his friends come over and interrupt me with murder.
Read more at

Clearly he did fight Great Jaggi even if he didn't mention it by name, but there is an image in the article. Thank you for making it so easy to prove you wrong.

Edit: Messed up the quote

He got to the Great Jaggi. And that's exactly it.

He didn't get to the point of "grinding monster to get gear used to grind bigger monster to repeat this endless cycle", though. Great Jaggi's the first real monster.

Anyway... lukewarm on this review. I don't much like his Nintendo game reviews because they always come off as NINTNEDO game reviews.

DVS BSTrD:
Other than the Last of Us there really isn't much coming out this year to get excited about is there?
And since this is Lego I could think a more fitting Marathon to be held hostage by.
what with the detachable limbs and all

A lot of people are pretty excited about that game that really isn't about stealing multiple motor vehicles for Vendetta.

MB202:
Yahtzee mentioning third party games for the Wii U reminded me of how Rayman Legends was supposed to be Wii U exclusive, but Ubisoft decided be tossers and let Nintendo in the dust.

Yeah, a company decided to actually turn a profit by developing on consoles that people actually own. How rude of them.

3.50 - Was that a dig at Mr. Burgess there Yahtzee?

BiH-Kira:
How Yahtzee reviews a game on a Nintendo console:
1/3 of the episode is wasted on bashing Nintendo as a company
1/3 on bashing the Nintendo console
1/6 on bashing Nintendo fans
1/6 of proving that he didn't play the game for longer than 20 minutes
Every fucking time.

And how exactly do you know he didn't get to the end? I can think of several videos off the top of my head in the last few weeks where he brings up the ending/final boss for a specific reason.

I wish Lego would branch out and do more things that work with their lego characters, for example, imagine NeverDead with lego characters, casually popping your arms on and off, throwing your head down narrow passages so you can collect things, and it would be an E rated game.

Warachia:

BiH-Kira:
How Yahtzee reviews a game on a Nintendo console:
1/3 of the episode is wasted on bashing Nintendo as a company
1/3 on bashing the Nintendo console
1/6 on bashing Nintendo fans
1/6 of proving that he didn't play the game for longer than 20 minutes
Every fucking time.

And how exactly do you know he didn't get to the end? I can think of several videos off the top of my head in the last few weeks where he brings up the ending/final boss for a specific reason.

I wish Lego would branch out and do more things that work with their lego characters, for example, imagine NeverDead with lego characters, casually popping your arms on and off, throwing your head down narrow passages so you can collect things, and it would be an E rated game.

Because people who are Nintendo fans need to tell themselves Yahtzee has a massive bias. Something he himself has brought up many a time.

The problem is, Nintendo fans, is that Nintendo's consoles have done very little for core gaming in many years. That's why he, and most 'core' gamers, don't give much of a rats ass about Nintendo consoles. Handheld? sure, the DS is definitely best overall handheld (woo, now i'm going to be attacked by Sony fanboys too!). Consoles? lol, nope.

Enlong:

He got to the Great Jaggi. And that's exactly it.

He didn't get to the point of "grinding monster to get gear used to grind bigger monster to repeat this endless cycle", though. Great Jaggi's the first real monster.

Anyway... lukewarm on this review. I don't much like his Nintendo game reviews because they always come off as NINTNEDO game reviews.

He got to the part where the game is turning fun and he didn't like it. You can't accept that he's got a different opinion than me or you on the game? There is going to be grinding and he has said on numerous occasions that he doesn't like grinding. What more do you need to be convinced that he wouldn't like this game?

I am going to be immature here and accept his opinion, but you can choose to be the mature one here and take the high road and keep arguing this to the end of days.

I see no reason whatsoever why the Wii U would be difficult to develop for, when compared to the Wii.

The Wii's controller thing influenced the whole system. Even if one didn't use motion controls, the relative lack of buttons meant that a game would have to be simplified or reworked entirely if it was a port.

But the Wii U's controller has all the standard buttons. Four or so face buttons, two control sticks, two sets of shoulder buttons, and press-in buttons on the control sticks.

If a developer doesn't want to use the screen gimmick, then they can just... not use it. Save it for that off-TV play thing that people are so worked up over. It's not like the Wii, where the Classic Controller was an optional add-on that not everyone had. The button scheme on the screen controller is the same as the "pro controllers".

kailus13:

Farther than stars:
A game with a cyborg ninja dressed in tank tops, who is also the mayor and is raising money to bring his dead mother back to life... and for all I know that is actually the real plot of "Metal Gear Rising: Revengence".

I'm fairly sure it isn't, but I'm also fairly sure that game would be awesome. It would probably be a JRPG, possibly an action adventure.

You and I must have different definitions of the word 'awesome'. Personally, I use it as an antonym for 'terrible'.

lol I don't go to the gym anymore for the same reason, Yahtzee

LEGO LotR had voice acting in it, but I personally felt it got away with it cuz I love the films but still.

Yopaz:

Enlong:

He got to the Great Jaggi. And that's exactly it.

He didn't get to the point of "grinding monster to get gear used to grind bigger monster to repeat this endless cycle", though. Great Jaggi's the first real monster.

Anyway... lukewarm on this review. I don't much like his Nintendo game reviews because they always come off as NINTNEDO game reviews.

He got to the part where the game is turning fun and he didn't like it. You can't accept that he's got a different opinion than me or you on the game? There is going to be grinding and he has said on numerous occasions that he doesn't like grinding. What more do you need to be convinced that he wouldn't like this game?

I am going to be immature here and accept his opinion, but you can choose to be the mature one here and take the high road and keep arguing this to the end of days.

Huh?

No, I wasn't saying that I thought he would like the game. I was just saying that your wording for why he quit it was inaccurate. If I recall the Extra Punctuation correctly, his reasons for quitting weren't to do with endlessly grinding big monsters for gear to fight bigger monsters; all that sort of begins after the Great Jaggi. His reason for quitting seemed to be more to do with the mechanics of fighting, the extensive downtime between quests, and the time it was taking to reach interesting monsters like the Lagiacus, instead of the Great Jaggi, which is more of an overgrown minor enemy in terms of design.

Believe me, I have no illusions as to the fact that he would despise Tri U. I'm glad we're no getting that review, because it would be more of the same, on both sides.

...Wait, since when is it immature to accept someone else's opinion?

Enlong:

...Wait, since when is it immature to accept someone else's opinion?

I was hoping the sarcasm was obvious enough here.

Also my exact wording for why he quit was that this isn't his kind of game.

The only reason anybody bought this game was to justify their Wii U purchase, me included.

But running around the city trying to find all the little secrets is pretty fun, and if you're looking for something to tide you over until Pikmin 3 comes out, it's worth picking up.

Playing Lego City is like eating pancakes for dinner when your dinner reservation got cancelled - a nice, stupid pick-me-up that you'll forget about in a week.

DVS BSTrD:
Other than the Last of Us there really isn't much coming out this year to get excited about is there?
And since this is Lego I could think a more fitting Marathon to be held hostage by.
what with the detachable limbs and all

GTA V. But that's pretty far down the road too. And MAAAYBE Watch Dogs if it manages to come out this year. I guess this is a good time to work on backlogs.

OT: I can't help but think Luigi's Mansion would have been a more entertaining review, since more people are likely to care about that. Maybe next week.

Yopaz:

Enlong:

...Wait, since when is it immature to accept someone else's opinion?

I was hoping the sarcasm was obvious enough here.

Also my exact wording for why he quit was that this isn't his kind of game.

Actu-

...you know what? Sure. Let's go with that.

The Comfy Chair:
Because people who are Nintendo fans need to tell themselves Yahtzee has a massive bias. Something he himself has brought up many a time.

The problem is, Nintendo fans, is that Nintendo's consoles have done very little for core gaming in many years. That's why he, and most 'core' gamers, don't give much of a rats ass about Nintendo consoles. Handheld? sure, the DS is definitely best overall handheld (woo, now i'm going to be attacked by Sony fanboys too!). Consoles? lol, nope.

You're saying Yahtzee doesn't have a bias, and that he only dislikes Nintendo consoles because they've done very little for core gaming, but that's actually the definition of a bias. It just means that he presents his own view at the expense of others.

Falseprophet:

Gameguy20100:
Wait wait wait wait Yahtzee WANTS multiplier what weird fucked up parallel universe have I stepped into!!

Yahtzee's never had a problem with local multiplayer. Just online.

Unfortunately it's not the universe where beer flows like water, cigars and pizza grow on trees, donuts rain from the sky, and women want to have sex with me by eye contact alone.
Getting back to the video, I applaud LEGO for making a game not already based on a licensed property, and hope they make more games based on their sets. Either that or I can just buy the sets themselves.
And I fear the number of the worst Simpsons episodes ever would be too much to fit in a single day.

Defeated Detective:

The Last Melon:
Well, he's a much bigger fan of Bioshock Infinite in this one than he was in his video review...

He came in defense of Bioshock Infinite's ending, a much more in-depth answer is found in his column.

I still haven't played Infinite, so I didn't read the column for fear of spoilers...

BiH-Kira:
How Yahtzee reviews a game on a Nintendo console:
1/3 of the episode is wasted on bashing Nintendo as a company
1/3 on bashing the Nintendo console
1/6 on bashing Nintendo fans
1/6 of proving that he didn't play the game for longer than 20 minutes
Every fucking time.

I especially liked the irony of him criticising Lego City's humour for being overly reliant on pop culture references and dragging jokes out for too long.

Since Yahtzee is so big on story and narrative, I'm surprised that he got through the entire review and didn't once mention or describe the plot.

Actually, on second thought, I'm not surprised.

The Last Melon:

Defeated Detective:

The Last Melon:
Well, he's a much bigger fan of Bioshock Infinite in this one than he was in his video review...

He came in defense of Bioshock Infinite's ending, a much more in-depth answer is found in his column.

I still haven't played Infinite, so I didn't read the column for fear of spoilers...

Better don't read it.
Now, just GO GET THAT GAME!
It's totally worth the price.

I feel just like Yahtzee right now. After playing BSI, Planetside 2 just bored me. Where's the story, the engaging characters, the awesome world? ;___;
Just have been lucky to notice that Dishonored was on sale and got it. Should be worthy step between extremely awesome games and the "normal" games.

The Last Melon:

Defeated Detective:

The Last Melon:
Well, he's a much bigger fan of Bioshock Infinite in this one than he was in his video review...

He came in defense of Bioshock Infinite's ending, a much more in-depth answer is found in his column.

I still haven't played Infinite, so I didn't read the column for fear of spoilers...

He knows better, it's spoiler-free.

"What was it called? The piss-shit?"

Chocolate cake. Chocolate cake and milk everywhere. Thank you, Yahtzee. I dunno, maybe because I haven't heard him mention the Wii U a lot, that was somehow unexpected.

Haaaa, seriously, the time after bioshock is quite depressing... weirdly enough, it seems like the 3DS of all things is the thing that'll keep me gaming the next few months...

well, that and steam obviously.

Also, luigi's Masion would've made for a better review

Sabin Felea:
Yahtzee asking where is the multi-player component within a game? Now I have heard them all... :))

maybe he's under the influence.

Again don't think i'm ever gonna play a lego game but fun watch.

BiH-Kira:
How Yahtzee reviews a game on a Nintendo console:
1/3 of the episode is wasted on bashing Nintendo as a company
1/3 on bashing the Nintendo console

Maybe he will stop bashing Nintendo and their consoles when they both go back to not sucking.

1/6 on bashing Nintendo fans

Only when they stop getting amusingly mad.

1/6 of proving that he didn't play the game for longer than 20 minutes

Except for the part where he mentions being at the very end of the game and having to stop because the stupid pad has the lifespan of a mayfly.

Enlong:
I see no reason whatsoever why the Wii U would be difficult to develop for, when compared to the Wii.

The Wii's controller thing influenced the whole system. Even if one didn't use motion controls, the relative lack of buttons meant that a game would have to be simplified or reworked entirely if it was a port.

But the Wii U's controller has all the standard buttons. Four or so face buttons, two control sticks, two sets of shoulder buttons, and press-in buttons on the control sticks.

If a developer doesn't want to use the screen gimmick, then they can just... not use it. Save it for that off-TV play thing that people are so worked up over. It's not like the Wii, where the Classic Controller was an optional add-on that not everyone had. The button scheme on the screen controller is the same as the "pro controllers".

As a programmer who's worked on development of software for consoles before, I can answer this question for you. It has nothing to do with the controller. Ok, it has a little to do with the controller, but that's just the obvious part. The less obvious - but much more important - part of developing for a console is the architecture of the console. Nintendo uses it's own internally developed architecture. Think of it as the operating system. As you probably know, porting a game, for example, made on Windows to... say... a mac would be difficult. They both have keyboards, memory, hard drive space and processors that are pretty much the same, but the software governing them is very different. Similarly, consoles (until recently) have differed greatly from each other. For an example of how this affects developers, take a look at Skyrim. Since Xbox is owned by Microsoft, a company largely concerned with PC's, the infrastructure the console is build on is much more similar to a standard PC than a PS3. As such, and as most know, many more problems cropped up for PS3 users as a direct result of the difficulties the developers had porting a game created on a computer (and yes, almost all games are developed on computers, but for cross platform titles, it's a complicated process). The PS4 seems to have learned from this and is standardizing it's underlying software to be a lot more similar to the Xbox and Windows computers. The Wii U... did not. This creates problems for developers. Did that answer your question?

The Comfy Chair:

Warachia:

BiH-Kira:
How Yahtzee reviews a game on a Nintendo console:
1/3 of the episode is wasted on bashing Nintendo as a company
1/3 on bashing the Nintendo console
1/6 on bashing Nintendo fans
1/6 of proving that he didn't play the game for longer than 20 minutes
Every fucking time.

And how exactly do you know he didn't get to the end? I can think of several videos off the top of my head in the last few weeks where he brings up the ending/final boss for a specific reason.

I wish Lego would branch out and do more things that work with their lego characters, for example, imagine NeverDead with lego characters, casually popping your arms on and off, throwing your head down narrow passages so you can collect things, and it would be an E rated game.

Because people who are Nintendo fans need to tell themselves Yahtzee has a massive bias. Something he himself has brought up many a time.

The problem is, Nintendo fans, is that Nintendo's consoles have done very little for core gaming in many years. That's why he, and most 'core' gamers, don't give much of a rats ass about Nintendo consoles. Handheld? sure, the DS is definitely best overall handheld (woo, now i'm going to be attacked by Sony fanboys too!). Consoles? lol, nope.

His retort to that was "B... but I liked Paper Mario!". Liking one game from a franchise doesn't mean you don't have a bias over a whole company. LCU wasn't even developed by Nintendo, yet he feels like it's perfectly fine to spend a lot of time in his video bashing Nintendo and Nintendo fans. How would you like it if for every PC exclusive he reviewed he spent two minutes talking about how he thinks all PC owners are neckbeard losers? This whole site has an anti-Nintendo bias, for example just today the news of a brand new Zelda game wasn't posted even though it was pretty big news, when the news of an internet retailer supposedly leaking GT6 gets posted. You wouldn't see other Lego games Yahtzee has reviewed called "last resorts" and much worse because they're not on Nintendo consoles.

major_chaos:
Maybe he will stop bashing Nintendo and their consoles when they both go back to not sucking.

Still, what has this got to do with the fucking game except it being an exclusive? It's like a review of Gears of War starting off with "HAHA RED RING OF DEATH! SO MANY ADS MICROSOFT U SUCK LOL!!!!"

Only when they stop getting amusingly mad.

Meanwhile legions of Xbox and PS3 gamers call death on Platinum games when Nintendo funded Bayonetta 2. Am I allowed to call them fat neckbeard losers now? "But they mad bro!" is not a good argument.

Except for the part where he mentions being at the very end of the game and having to stop because the stupid pad has the lifespan of a mayfly.

I'll give you that.

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