Zero Punctuation: Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon

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Moonlight Butterfly:

Moonlight Butterfly:

I don't find the 3DS difficult to hold but then I have tiny hands so maybe its a big hand thing.

ToastiestZombie:

OT: I see Yahtzee hasn't got the uber-comfy 3DS XL. Seriously, the XL is the best feeling handheld I've ever held, mainly because I have massive man hands.

Judging from our three experiences it does seems it's a hand size issue :p 3DS man-sized...like kleenex lol.

Well, I gotta admit the 3DS' original design was pretty terrible, if they had just smoothed out the corners and made it matte instead of plastic it would have been really good.

Moonlight Butterfly:
I'm glad he liked it. I find the gameplay really refreshing (there's not much on the market like it) and as he said Luigi is a really charming character in this.

The multiplayer is fun too.

Happy at Yahtzee's reaction :p

I don't find the 3DS difficult to hold but then I have tiny hands so maybe its a big hand thing.

Enlong:

So yeah, I'd love to see a link to that, because you have just succeeded in baffling me.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/123361-Nintendo-Announces-A-Link-to-the-Past-2

...huh.

I wonder if it's gonna keep the number title in the end. I hope not. It should a least have a subtitle to go with it.

Anyway, I wonder where it can even go as a direc sequel. I mean, in the end of A Link To The Past, Ganon's dead (not sealed, dead), the world's been wished back to peace, and Link put the Master Sword back in its seal. What is left, one wonders?

Enlong:
Anyway, I wonder where it can even go as a direc sequel. I mean, in the end of A Link To The Past, Ganon's dead (not sealed, dead), the world's been wished back to peace, and Link put the Master Sword back in its seal. What is left, one wonders?

Well, Reggie said it's an entirely new story, so i'm guessing Link'll have some new evil to fight. Either that or they'll choose to retcon the first game's story entirely.

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OT: Meanwhile, Satan sits on his throne, wondering how the hell it got so cold all of a sudden....
/obligitory

This game's actually been on my radar for a while, but I've been wrapped up in other games. I hope to be able to get it soon, because the first one was pretty awesome.

Hilarious review, BTW. Just how I like 'em: Quick, fair and leaves me sore in the end....
....
... FROM LAUGHTER! from laughter, guys.

Yahtzee, if you want a 3DS that doesn't dig into your hands, for the love of god, get an XL; I love my XL. Bigger screen than the standard 3DS all my sisters have, nicely rounded corners, and a better battery life.

OT: I may have to put this on my Christmas wish-list; any game Yahtzee has actually liked is a game I usually end up enjoying, myself. It was Yahtzees praise of XCOM that got me to buy that, after all, and perked my interest in Spec Ops: The Line. Picked up Fire Emblem: Awakening today, though, and I would be curious what his opinion of it would be; I'm liking it so far.

Oh wait, there is no confirmed title for the game yet. So it'll probably have a new title, just like each game since the first.

I figure it's likely to be similar to Spirit Tracks; a "sequel" that takes place in the same world, but generations later.

Say what you want about the WiiU, at least it doesn't look like a marrital aid *cough cough* WiiMote *cough cough*

I think his hate for most Nintendo titles came from his absolute LOATHING of the Wii. I can think of 2 titles that he liked on it, Mario Galaxy and I think No More Heroes, even though others still got rave reviews from this very site, he just couldn't stand the Wii.

This episode needed more blowjob jokes. I feel like it was just a little under the amount necessary.

I never played the GameCube version, but I have been having a really good time with this. It's kind of like a nice, low-impact sort of point-and-click adventure game. It's a great game to play when I'm in the mood for something like that. Plus it gives me an excuse other than Fire Emblem to use my 3DS.

If the 3DS is going to be Nintendo's go-to platform for resurrecting their dead franchises, then come on Big N, Startropics 3. Look, it even has a 3 at the end! You can make it big and bold on the cover to signify it's both the third game and on the 3DS on that same clever way everyone does!

JoJo:
I did have quite an affection for the original Luigi's Mansion, I may have to consider getting this one, if only in part to boost my 3DS's meagre library. Also I agree, I've held for years that Luigi is more awesome than Mario.

If you liked the original you'll like this one. That's the only reason I bought it and I have it next to me right now.

OT: Yeah, Luigi is actually pretty adorable in this one, which helps you sympathize with him. He's still accident prone too, and you kind of feel bad when he gets hurt.
The controls will piss you off a bit though.

The thing I most agreed with, the absolute pain the original DS system caused to my wrists. *insert obligatory masturbation joke*

Yahtzee has said lots of good things about Nintendo in the past. He's had nothing but praise for the Gamecube and has said that Metroid Prime, various Paper Marios, Mario Sunshine, Mario Galaxy, Wind Waker and even Twilight Princess were all good games. Stop being so surprised that he liked one of their games.

Proverbial Jon:

I bet you've never had to wring ectoplasm out of your facial hair

Well now you're just making personal assumptions about my character, Yahtzee.

OT: I own a sharp and pointy 3DS (for my sins) and to be honest I didn't give this game much of a look, having never played the original. However, Yahtzee's glowing praise is not a regular occurrence so I might just give this game a little look-see.

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That's just an Xbox 360 controller with the right analog stick and the face buttons swapped round. It's hardly evidence for Nintendo's innovation.

It's an innovation of laziness and theft, that's what it is. As for Defiance, the show's good, the game's sort of 'meh' as I heard it. I enjoyed Luigi's Mansion on the Gamecube and Luigi didn't come off as a wuss, but putting on a brave face for the challenge he had. So how did Yahtzee approve of this game and give the other Mario games crap?

C14N:
Yahtzee has said lots of good things about Nintendo in the past. He's had nothing but praise for the Gamecube and has said that Metroid Prime, various Paper Marios, Mario Sunshine, Mario Galaxy, Wind Waker and even Twilight Princess were all good games. Stop being so surprised that he liked one of their games.

Seriously, he tends to bitch around a lot about overused IPs but in general he never actually calls the games bad. Most of the times, it's actually very valid criticism filled with vitriol for comedy's sake. It's just that fanboys get their panties in a twist for even the tiniest opposing comment as if nintendo can't go wrong. Makes them fail to realize that yahtzee rarely calls the games bad.

Still, them fanboys are a bit on a high right now. I hope he reviews Fire Emblem next week to get them back to earth again.

Darth_Payn:

Proverbial Jon:

I bet you've never had to wring ectoplasm out of your facial hair

Well now you're just making personal assumptions about my character, Yahtzee.

OT: I own a sharp and pointy 3DS (for my sins) and to be honest I didn't give this game much of a look, having never played the original. However, Yahtzee's glowing praise is not a regular occurrence so I might just give this game a little look-see.

Enlong:
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That's just an Xbox 360 controller with the right analog stick and the face buttons swapped round. It's hardly evidence for Nintendo's innovation.

It's an innovation of laziness and theft, that's what it is. As for Defiance, the show's good, the game's sort of 'meh' as I heard it. I enjoyed Luigi's Mansion on the Gamecube and Luigi didn't come off as a wuss, but putting on a brave face for the challenge he had. So how did Yahtzee approve of this game and give the other Mario games crap?

Because the X-Box controller looks nothing like a GameCube controller? There is only so many standard designs for a controller that are functional. The GameCube/Xbox share the same basic format.

Did Yahtzee really have to use Wife Beater logic to express his relationship with Nintendo?

Enlong:
Oh wait, there is no confirmed title for the game yet. So it'll probably have a new title, just like each game since the first.

I figure it's likely to be similar to Spirit Tracks; a "sequel" that takes place in the same world, but generations later.

well there's a few periods of time between LttP and OoS/OoA, and between OoS/OoA and LA that aren't filled in.(after LA there is a huge timeskip but LttP/Oo?/LA link DOES make it to wherever he's going)

immediately after LttP link assists around hyrule and runs errands for the triforce (leading to him getting warped to holodrum and labrynna), and there's the short period of time after the oracle games where LA's backstory mentions him attempting to fight ganon again before setting off on the boat.

and then there's the fact that vaati is still alive in that timeline, it's possible that he manages to escape the four sword, and if the ending of LttP is to be trusted, Fi's Master Sword is never used again in that timeline (not counting the ones from the oracle games, since they are just regular swords made by ordinary smiths) so it would give us a legendary sword to use. (there's also Dethyl, the wind fish's nightmare, the final boss of LA is specifically stated to draw from link's memories, and dethyl's final form is the only creature that LttP link has never seen AT ALL, but it does look pretty similar to some of vaati's forms)

my theory is that it's either just after LttP and we deal with vaati breaking free, or just after the oracle games and ganon frees vaati, prompting link to find another way of killing ganon and starting LA

it's unlikely to be during the timeskip between LA and LoZ because during that time period, the royal family was actively using the triforce to keep the peace

Well... Pleasantly surprised indeed. I think I may finally let you off the hook for Uprising, Croshaw. I honestly thought you were gonna gloss over this without doing a review because you didn't hate it enough, like you did for Sonic Colors.

But yeah, now that you weren't a totally unreasonable prick to my March-released, 3DS-based pick for GotY. Different game in a different March in a different year, but the principle still stands. Same 3DS though. Haven't gotten an XL yet.

(And before anyone jumps on me, Portal 2 was my pick for 2011.)

Yeah, Luigi's Mansion is just a big old ball of crystalized fun. It even helped get my non-video game playing girlfriend into video games (well, after playing Jak and Daxter a whole bunch), so nevermind that "casual gaming has to be stupid mini games" cliche. Hopefully by this time next year, the Wii U has some games as good as the library the 3DS has right now.

Because Fire emblem is sold out for a fucking MONTH where I live, I think I just discovered my next game!

Darth_Payn:

It's an innovation of laziness and theft, that's what it is.

You do realise the xbox pad is based on the snes controller right?

:|

Not to mention the current consoles copying the wii's motion control...

Wow. Yahtzee enjoying a Nintendo game, haven't seen that in a while.

I just might get this game, it does sound fun.

Also, I have to ask: who is that bored looking guy with the curly hair you seem to use in almost every episode?

Yahtzee liked a Nintendo game?
Also he likes Luigi more then Mario?

Holy crap am I in some sort of DC universe that has gone a route with unexpected twists?
Ether way, this was a nice video and the humor made me chuckle quite a bit :)

I'm not getting into the Mario vs Luigi thing. I've always loved both brothers.
Anyway I had a feeling Yahtzee would be all over this one like jam on toast.

Yahtzee likes Nintendo games with strong characterization and polished core mechanics?

*COUGHFIREEMBLEMAWAKENINGCOUGH*

I dunno if he'd like Fire Emblem much. Isn't he on record as not enjoying games with weapon degradation?

Then again, it's been a long while since that particular review.

Caramel Frappe:
Yahtzee liked a Nintendo game?
Also he likes Luigi more then Mario?

Holy crap am I in some sort of DC universe that has gone a route with unexpected twists?
Ether way, this was a nice video and the humor made me chuckle quite a bit :)

Watch his video of Luigi and Mario: Bowser's Inside Story.

Yahtzee liked a Nintendo game? Why are people acting like this some great revelation? He actually likes quite a few things Nintendo has done, if you've been paying attention. In fact, what I like about this review is that it's a kind of culmination of the pleasant attitude he's had toward not only Nintendo, but the Mario franchise itself.

Look, Yahtzee doesn't hate the Wii (and Wii U) because he hates Nintendo; he hates them because he thinks they're gimmicky and stupid. Yahtzee doesn't hate Smash Bros. because he hates Nintendo; he hates Smash Bros. because he thinks fighting games are shallow and uninteresting, Smash Bros. especially so. Yahtzee doesn't hate Super Mario games; he just feels they've become staid, overused nostalgia traps, however competently made. He doesn't hate Zelda games, only the new ones that don't add very much (he actually liked Wind Waker and kind of liked Twilight Princess). I could go on.

And even if he did hate Nintendo, there is ZERO evidence to suggest that he hates them as a company more than Microsoft or Sony (quite the reverse, actually). I just wish fanboys on either side would just shut up bitching about things so much. A large part of why I can't take the video game industry seriously is the fans.

On a related note, I definitely agree that Mario spinoff games are much more appealing than the mainstream titles these days. They're quirkier, more creative, got more personality, bolder art styles, better humour, more story...Hey, Nintendo, when 2nd party companies are doing Mario Bros. better than you, you're doing it wrong.

Copper Zen:
Large amounts of homoeroticism and actually praising a Nintendo game...?

Yahtzee's having a midlife crisis, I think.

Or perhaps he's just afraid of getting burned by the PS4, NextBox, and women, so the alternatives are starting to appeal to him :D

And honestly, the way things are looking, Nintendo may be my console of choice this gen. At least they still care about making game FUN. Also, great vid! I always felt bad sacrificing yoshi for double jumps. Not bad enough to stop doing it, but still felt guilty.

Completely agree with the Gamecube controller, the only controller my hands love hugging. It's a shame the Gamecube didn't get more love though I reckon that's because it was competing against a giant with an amazing library.

And funnily enough I didn't want to buy the 3DS because it's so thin and sharp.

The innuendos in this video are strong.

Glad to see you liked it Yahtzee, guess the praise this game got are quite true, which happens not very often.

You know...I'm really thinking that I should sell my Vita for a 3DS XL. I can play Zero Escape on the 3DS now, I really don't need portable Ninja Gaiden games, and I can sacrifice what Golden adds to Persona 4 in order to have Luigi's Mansion, Fire Emblem, Etrian Odyssey, SMT games, etc. Not to mention that I wouldn't need to re-purchase my regular DS library in order to play them on the 3DS. I think I'm ready to pull the trigger on this.

"They're afraid to show that Mario doesn't like peas, in case they lose the entire pea-loving demographic."

I liked the first Luigi's mansion, mostly because I've always been a fan of the ghost house levels in the regular Super Mario games. As such, it seems like this is the game for me.

"I think I see how the Nintendo flowchart works. Question 1: Are you an entirely original property? If yes, sod off!"

I'll take that as a confession that you're too lazy to go onto the 3DS' eShop then Yahtzee.

It amazes me how even when he reviews a Nintendo game he actually likes, he still manages to say something stupid that blows his credibility.

Look, Yahtzee doesn't hate the Wii (and Wii U) because he hates Nintendo; he hates them because he thinks they're gimmicky and stupid.

Only because he's proven time and again that he can't work them properly for whatever strange reason. I've had a Wii since Day 1 and can only count two or three times the controls were a problem. His complaints w/ holding the 3DS does not help to convince me either.

I can admi that Nintendo hasn't made a lot of new franchises in a while, but they're not opposed to new properties coming down he 3rd party pipe.

Which is why I'm glad for the Pro Controller, as it means that 3rd parties who don't want to deal with the tablet or wiimote don't need to.

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