Escape to the Movies: The Great Gatsby

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The Great Gatsby

MovieBob takes us through the decadence that is The Great Gatsby.

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Oh I'm getting the popcorn ready for when Card goes on a homophobic tirade.

And for some reason I'm imagining Rex from Blood Dragon being in The Great Gatsby now. And it's HILARIOUS

Kinda hoped (despite knowing better)that this one contained some sort of hidden quality that would make it worth my time. Leo is cool and all but I think I am going to skip this one. Also haven't we seen the trailers for over a year by now?

I was hoping for a more meaningful film, considering I liked the book, but I suppose after the trailers, this is really all I should have expected. Oh well, I still need to go see Iron Man 3.

Aiddon:
Oh I'm getting the popcorn ready for when Card goes on a homophobic tirade.

And for some reason I'm imagining Rex from Blood Dragon being in The Great Gatsby now. And it's HILARIOUS

I think someone should organize some sort of massive LGBT event. Not a protest, no no, that is far to predictable, instead a large group needs to go/show massive support for the movie. Card would flip his lid and it would be rather amusing.

Ugh that nails on a chalkboard accent...

The movie seems interesting though, I think I will go see it this next week.

And OSC didn't really cause a PR nightmare for anyone, it was a whiny photoshop jocky that created the PR stink.

Huh, and I thought Star Trek was out in the US this week. Pity as I was hoping to see if its worth going to see for a reason other then to watch Sherlock kick the shit out of Kirk.

Ta for the review though as its a film I've been curious about for a while and I admit Leonardo Decaprio has continued to surprise me in the same way watching a 90's Tom Cruise film always does.

Danm I thougth this week was going to be Star Trek: Into Darkness (I guess that next week then).

Also when did that news of Electro apperance in the next Spiderman movie got out? (Look ok, kind of remind me more of Radioactive man look during his time in Osborn Thunderbolt team.)

Why is The Great Gatsby banned by the Geneva convention?
Because it has a hollow point :P

I really can't remember Gatsby having a real backstory besides that war medal and the fact that he knew the guy who fixed the World Series in 1919. So it's just about as empty as the trailers said it was.

You're not even trying to hide that accent anymore are you Bob?

The transfer to full Bostonian is almost complete.

And does anyone wanna tell me whether I should see the new one or just go watch the old one, specifically?

You also can't spoiler something that's required high school reading. Anybody who doesn't know the story of The Great Gatsby by this point has no excuse not to.

Baz Luhrmann is the most overrated director of all time right after Tim Burton. The editing in his movies is just downright awful and the cinematography and confusing as hell. even if the production deign is marvelous, you couldn't tell !

Also, why the hell a period movie is in 3D ?

Shameless:
Baz Luhrmann is the most overrated director of all time right after Tim Burton. The editing in his movies is just downright awful and the cinematography and confusing as hell. even if the production deign is marvelous, you couldn't tell !

Also, why the hell a period movie is in 3D ?

Because OPULENCE!
And it was the only way to give the characters depth :P

I thought Gatsby himself was supposed to be shallow. He doesn't hate the monied world. He wants to be part of it. The reason he adores Daisy is because her laugh reminds him of the clanking of money.

lacktheknack:
And does anyone wanna tell me whether I should see the new one or just go watch the old one, specifically?

You should read the book. :) The '74 film, despite its great cast, is quite lifeless.

lacktheknack:
The transfer to full Bostonian is almost complete.

And does anyone wanna tell me whether I should see the new one or just go watch the old one, specifically?

Which old one?
There have been 5 apparently. One of them was even a silent film.

For the Electro thing at the end my only complaint is that the image reminds me of Arnie from Batman, other then that I dont mind.

Still curious for the rest of the character design, the one from the comics is way over the top for a movie so its cool that they are changing it.

cyvaris:

Aiddon:
Oh I'm getting the popcorn ready for when Card goes on a homophobic tirade.

And for some reason I'm imagining Rex from Blood Dragon being in The Great Gatsby now. And it's HILARIOUS

I think someone should organize some sort of massive LGBT event. Not a protest, no no, that is far to predictable, instead a large group needs to go/show massive support for the movie. Card would flip his lid and it would be rather amusing.

I was going to put my money in for the full theater of the absurd:
Minor actor (maybe one of the kids? that'd be priceless) comes out as gay. Card flips his lid and... I dunno. Full-on absurdity would probably be disowning or trying to block the movie.

The LGBT group can get behind the movie and push in support of our young hero. ;)

(No, I don't think this is going to happen, but it'd be :popcorn: for people on the outside. I'm a terrible person.)

Man, the Boston accent is really butting in more and more these days XD

I don't really mind it, but it is kind of jarring to jump between that and your broadcast voice.

I know this is only partially related to this video, but I really hate the excuse of "Well it's really old anyway" when it comes to spoilers. Just because something's old doesn't mean it isn't new to somebody out there. 10 and 20 years from now when the toddlers of today are playing Bioshock on an emulator or PSN/XBLA equivalent, the big twists that everybody today is familiar with are going to be totally new to them. And the impact of those realizations are what made those moments so amazing to us as players when we first experienced them. I think it's really degrading to think that somebody is less deserving of experiencing that same realization for themself just because they made the mistake of being born a few decades "too late." And not only degrading to the player, but to the people who made the game as well. By refusing to let these people discover for themselves the lies in Rapture, we're also systematically disarming the creators of the game from delivering the experience they intended.

In some cases spoiler warnings aren't that big of a deal (knowing the ring is going to make it to Mordor doesn't change how frighteningly outnumbered the Rohan are at Helm's Deep in the Lord of the Rings), but when it comes to MAJOR plot twists like in Bioshock, plot twists that carry an overwhelming about of the dramatic impact of the story, I think we need to not be so dismissive of them.

DVS BSTrD:

lacktheknack:
The transfer to full Bostonian is almost complete.

And does anyone wanna tell me whether I should see the new one or just go watch the old one, specifically?

Which old one?
There have been 5 apparently. One of them was even a silent film.

Oh FFS.

Anyone wanna rank these?

Maybe it's just me, but my reading of the book wasn't that Nick Carraway idolized or hero-worshipped Gatsby. In fact, I think he saw through the veneer of both "sides," seeing Gatsby as a driven but somewhat pathetic dreamer, projecting his own version of Daisy onto the completely-vapid real thing.

varmintx:

lacktheknack:
And does anyone wanna tell me whether I should see the new one or just go watch the old one, specifically?

You should read the book. :) The '74 film, despite its great cast, is quite lifeless.

There was actually a really good TV movie version made in the mid-90s with Toby Stephens, Mira Sorvino and Paul Rudd.

josemlopes:
For the Electro thing at the end my only complaint is that the image reminds me of Arnie from Batman, other then that I dont mind.

Still curious for the rest of the character design, the one from the comics is way over the top for a movie so its cool that they are changing it.

A lot of people are assuming that the blue face and LED lights in the robe are basically meant to turn Jamie Foxx into one giant bluescreen to paint special effects over. Which makes sense, and I think we can all agree that Electro's actual costume in the original Spiderman comics is horrific and laughable and needs to stay far away from any real person to actually wear it.

Leo was terrible, and that accent! It slipped so much I was reminded of Costner in Robin Hood.

Also, the book/story is about horrible, unpleasant people. They are all jerks. Making Gatsby into some kind of honorable guy misses the point entirely.

I know it is unreasonable to expect a character like electro to look exactly like he does in the comics, but what kind of redesign is that.

On the topic of Gatsby, since seeing the trailer for this in the first half of last year and it saying it would be in 3d I had basically given up on it. I also noticed that it was originally slated to be released around Christmas, so the move to the spring gives me the impression that early screenings gave the studio the impression that it wasn't quite as award worthy as they might have hoped.

Sylocat:
There was actually a really good TV movie version made in the mid-90s with Toby Stephens, Mira Sorvino and Paul Rudd.

Never seen it, but Netflix has it on DVD; maybe I'll give it a try.

cyvaris:

Aiddon:
Oh I'm getting the popcorn ready for when Card goes on a homophobic tirade.

And for some reason I'm imagining Rex from Blood Dragon being in The Great Gatsby now. And it's HILARIOUS

I think someone should organize some sort of massive LGBT event. Not a protest, no no, that is far to predictable, instead a large group needs to go/show massive support for the movie. Card would flip his lid and it would be rather amusing.

Its kind of heartbreaking given the message inherent in Enders Game, and its direct sequels about understanding and learning and live with others that the author is the way he is. its one of those 'I think people should read/see this, but I feel bad supporting him' quandries. (I usually just say borrow the book from the library)

SomebodyNowhere:
I know it is unreasonable to expect a character like electro to look exactly like he does in the comics, but what kind of redesign is that.

One that's going to end up looking something like this, I'd imagine;

http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/f/f9/Maxwell_Dillon_%28Earth-1610%29_010.jpg

I realize I might get roasted alive for this, but... I hate The Great Gatsby. I understand that nearly everyone is supposed to be shallow, that we are supposed to be seeing these one-dimensional characters engaged in their pettiness and learn what sort of tragedy projecting greatness on others can be. But I found the whole exercise boring and I've never managed to wrap my head around why this book is supposed to be so great. I also understand that Jersey Shore is all about watching vapid people be pretentious and one dimensional, but I don't find that interesting either.

I realize I've probably just raised some hackles, but please let me be clear, this is all simply personal opinion and I do get that many people find the book to be engaging, entertaining and important. I simply do not, and would much rather sit down and consider critical insights of Othello rather than trudge through Gatsby's idiotic love affair with one of the least interesting and simply awful women in the history of literature.

So, the purpose behind that little tirade was to set up this next bit. Also because of personal taste, I liked Romeo and Juliette and freaking loved Moulin Rouge. It's not deep film making, but I adore the set pieces and the songs and find it all really, really entertaining. So,with all of that, I have no idea if I should go see this film. Since Movie Bob and I don't see eye to eye on either Lurhmann or The Great Gatsby, his insights, however valid, aren't helping my decision. This is of course not a criticism of him, but rather of myself.

Edit: I suppose my purpose here is to ask: Is there anyone who likes Lurhmann, and also dislikes The Great Gatsby, and has seen this film that can give me their opinion?

Kmadden2004:

SomebodyNowhere:
I know it is unreasonable to expect a character like electro to look exactly like he does in the comics, but what kind of redesign is that.

One that's going to end up looking something like this, I'd imagine;

http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/f/f9/Maxwell_Dillon_%28Earth-1610%29_010.jpg

Wrong. That's Dr. Manhattan from "The Watchmen". Kidding!

But, it has been done before. Man, I'm going to miss the green and yellow outfit.

Shameless:
Baz Luhrmann is the most overrated director of all time right after Tim Burton. The editing in his movies is just downright awful and the cinematography and confusing as hell. even if the production deign is marvelous, you couldn't tell !

Also, why the hell a period movie is in 3D ?

The reasoning is kind of meta. I read in an interview where Luhrmann talks about how Fitzgerald embraced the modern Gatsby, most notably including jazz, which was essentially the 1920s equivalent of hip hop today as far as how it's viewed by society. Incidentally that's why the music is modern as well. I haven't seen the movie myself so I don't know if it's covers or just actual anachronistic music but when you think about it, a lot of popular modern hip hop is all about partying, how rich the artist is, and how great their life is, so it does have that Gatsby spirit.

RJ Dalton:
You also can't spoiler something that's required high school reading. Anybody who doesn't know the story of The Great Gatsby by this point has no excuse not to.

It might surprise you to learn the rest of the world isn't required to study your country's literary canon.

HBaskerville:
Also, the book/story is about horrible, unpleasant people. They are all jerks. Making Gatsby into some kind of honorable guy misses the point entirely.

Have you fully read the book? I recall trying to read it in high school and finding it unbearable because all of the characters were so intensely unlikeable, but, with all the people hyping and praising it as some kind of epic, nuanced masterpiece (despite the plot sounding like a watered-down, unfulfilling Count of Monte Cristo), I have found myself questioning whether my initial assessment was just me being a teenager with too much haterade in my system or whether the main characters are all, in fact, irredeemable and unlikeable.

Not that stories about terrible people can't be worthwhile or great art, just I seem to have a serious problem with those kinds of characters in any format outside of comedy/dark comedy (see: It's Always Sunny or Peep Show).

Also, I don't know how or why, but Bob's Bahstin accent's intrusions are somehow no longer unpleasant. It's still not pleasant, but, the first time it happened pretty hard, I was one of the whiners who had to stop watching the episode because it was so grating. I'd like to imagine this is somehow Bob playing the bizarre long game of acclimating the Escapist community to Boston accents (presumably for some kind of sinister purpose).

Shameless:
Baz Luhrmann is the most overrated director of all time right after Tim Burton. The editing in his movies is just downright awful and the cinematography and confusing as hell. even if the production deign is marvelous, you couldn't tell !

Also, why the hell a period movie is in 3D ?

Sorry, was answering someone else. But now that I'm here -

Oh how I agree with you. But this is how I feel about Baz Luhrmann and Zack Snyder, who I'm sure this forum (especially this critic) loves.

Complicated hero = Sgt. Rex "Power" Colt...
I can dig it.

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