Escapist Podcast: Bonus: The Xbox One Reveal

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Bonus: The Xbox One Reveal

In this special bonus podcast, we discuss the reveal of the brand new Xbox One!

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I just want to see this become a memetic slogan for the thing:

Xbox One. Step Back. (TM)

It makes so much sense - a step back in numeric identifier, a step back in gaming functionality, and of course the infamous space requirements of the Kinect.

What episode of kitchen nightmares was everyone talking about?

More on topic: I am so far nonplussed on all these consoles, even if one could argue that they haven't really told us anything. I guess I'll just be sticking with my PC and smartphone this generation if this persists.

EmperorZuma:
What episode of kitchen nightmares was everyone talking about?

Amy's Baking Company. It must be seen to be believed, truly.

Oh man, I loved 1 vs 100, I'm with Susan, I'd totally buy this if it came back.

Also, definitely want to see more of Quantum Break, and the other new IPs.

The Dog was fantastic as well. Even has its' own Twitter account. And yeah, it is so dead. In fact, they're probably gonna make you kill it, because you have to keep extremely quiet after 'The Enemy' know that your team are in a certain area. After you and your team (including the dog) sustain rather bad injuries - possibly from an explosion, which explains how the enemies are alerted. The dog can't keep quiet and you have to kill it.

Also, I wonder if the EA Sports engine will have the same hilarious glitches

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Also, what you guys mentioned about them leaving the stuff to wow people is why I'm not writing anything off yet, unlike many other people that I have seen so far

Xbox One's announcement did not really move the needle for me...every single TV / Home entertainment feature they promoted, pretty much already exists in other forms in the living room. So what MS is basically trying to sell is Kinect functionality (which, even if it worked properly, is still awkward for most consumers) and their dashboard in lieu of SmartTV/Settop box interfaces, a Dashboard who's functionally costs $5/mo to fully use while providing nothing extra to the home experience.

Even as a sports fan...the presentation did not convince me that the Xbox 1 experience would be all that different than a PS4 version. As a football fan, Sony has a deal for NFL Sunday Ticket (rights to all games minus blackouts), MS has a deal with ESPN (rights to Monday night game only,) "Exclusive Fifa content" is vague and has almost no meaning.

That said, Depending on what the new IPs turn out to be, how they plan to distribute exclusive TV programming, and what consumer protections they decide to implement with their new installed/used game features, I could very easily turn my opinion around on the console, but for right now PS4 will be my choice when/if i decide to invest in the next generation of consoles.

PS: "it was only an hour long presentation" is not really a good excuse. They were not renting out a convention center, the presentation length and detail/information given was not restricted by any outside influences. MS said what they wanted to say, showed what they wanted to show.

Personally... I think X-Bone is the best name. I'm guessing all the articles being updated weren't covered during the release.

I have a feeling that, given the practicality, flexibility, and the control over the system, the big three aren't going to win this generation - It'll be little start-ups and small computer shops that offer deals in creating powerful affordable no-nonsense HTPCs for people, whose parts can be easily upgraded and replaced in order to keep up with increasing demands, whereas with locked consoles have to provide specs that are meant to last for the next five to ten years. And if HTPCs break down, all you have to do is drop it off at the nearest PC repair shop, compared to where you actually have to mail a broken console to the manufacturer in order to get it fixed.

Andy Shandy:
The Dog was fantastic as well. Even has its' own Twitter account. And yeah, it is so dead. In fact, they're probably gonna make you kill it, because you have to keep extremely quiet after 'The Enemy' know that your team are in a certain area. After you and your team (including the dog) sustain rather bad injuries - possibly from an explosion, which explains how the enemies are alerted. The dog can't keep quiet and you have to kill it.

Aw... Aw dude. I hope that's not the case, but in a series where you've already had do some really horrible things (Modern Warfare 2's airport scene, for example), I can totally see them making the player have to go through that.

Andy Shandy:

The Dog was fantastic as well. Even has its' own Twitter account. And yeah, it is so dead. In fact, they're probably gonna make you kill it, because you have to keep extremely quiet after 'The Enemy' know that your team are in a certain area. After you and your team (including the dog) sustain rather bad injuries - possibly from an explosion, which explains how the enemies are alerted. The dog can't keep quiet and you have to kill it.

Oh, dude, I bet you're right.

Susan Arendt:

Andy Shandy:

The Dog was fantastic as well. Even has its' own Twitter account. And yeah, it is so dead. In fact, they're probably gonna make you kill it, because you have to keep extremely quiet after 'The Enemy' know that your team are in a certain area. After you and your team (including the dog) sustain rather bad injuries - possibly from an explosion, which explains how the enemies are alerted. The dog can't keep quiet and you have to kill it.

Oh, dude, I bet you're right.

Call of Duty: Old Yeller

Still waiting on a sold line of games worth having on from either the Xbox1 or the PS4 to justify spending hundreds of dollars on. In the meantime I'll be here with my PC.
Oh by the way good job on more or less staying on topic this time guys.

EDIT:
The most interesting thing about the event for me was that they used the terms "space age tech" and "8GB of RAM" in the same conference.

Interesting stuff, not that I really feel concerned. I want to play games, and the presentation did not cater to an audience that plays games.
Might I ask why you didn't address the issue of Installing games on the hard drive and a fee being required for used games?

I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater yet.. but I wasn't at all impressed, and that's coming from someone who only has a 360 (and PC) this gen. I don't want an entertainment hub. I barely watch TV as it is so full blown TV integration means nothing to me. I want a gaming console. The rest of the details like no backwards compatibility, a sometimes online requirement, anti used game measures, etc. don't reallt sway me much. That sort of stuff is just the way things are, liie it or not. I just want to play games, and they bsaically didn't show me any games.

EmperorZuma:
What episode of kitchen nightmares was everyone talking about?

Crazy people, here, watch for yourself.

Really guys? You honestly think that the Xbox One has a BETTER chance than the PS4?

Didn't you hear the part where Microsoft is going to CHARGE YOU AGAIN FOR USED GAMES THAT YOU ALREADY BOUGHT?

Unless Microsoft scrapes that quickly, they do not have a snowball's chance in hell against the PS4, which btw, does NOT require you to pay again for a used game.

They totally should have called it "Xbox Three Sixty".

What I find most surprising is that I found this reveal disappointing even though I should not even care. PC Master Race, and all that.

MrCollins:
Interesting stuff, not that I really feel concerned. I want to play games, and the presentation did not cater to an audience that plays games.
Might I ask why you didn't address the issue of Installing games on the hard drive and a fee being required for used games?

snowfi6916:
Really guys? You honestly think that the Xbox One has a BETTER chance than the PS4?

Didn't you hear the part where Microsoft is going to CHARGE YOU AGAIN FOR USED GAMES THAT YOU ALREADY BOUGHT?

Unless Microsoft scrapes that quickly, they do not have a snowball's chance in hell against the PS4, which btw, does NOT require you to pay again for a used game.

Did any of us say we thought it had a better chance than the PS4? I don't recall that happening.

Also, we recorded this immediately after the live event, so the information about the fee for used games (or not fee, depending on who was saying what at what moment) hadn't come out yet. That's why we didn't address that during the discussion. Same for the info about installing on the hard drive, and the having to connect to the internet once every 24 hours. We'll address those issues in the regular weekly podcast.

Susan Arendt:

MrCollins:
Interesting stuff, not that I really feel concerned. I want to play games, and the presentation did not cater to an audience that plays games.
Might I ask why you didn't address the issue of Installing games on the hard drive and a fee being required for used games?

snowfi6916:
Really guys? You honestly think that the Xbox One has a BETTER chance than the PS4?

Didn't you hear the part where Microsoft is going to CHARGE YOU AGAIN FOR USED GAMES THAT YOU ALREADY BOUGHT?

Unless Microsoft scrapes that quickly, they do not have a snowball's chance in hell against the PS4, which btw, does NOT require you to pay again for a used game.

Did any of us say we thought it had a better chance than the PS4? I don't recall that happening.

Also, we recorded this immediately after the live event, so the information about the fee for used games (or not fee, depending on who was saying what at what moment) hadn't come out yet. That's why we didn't address that during the discussion. Same for the info about installing on the hard drive, and the having to connect to the internet once every 24 hours. We'll address those issues in the regular weekly podcast.

My mistake then. I thought you guys said something about Microsoft looking better than Sony. Also I wasn't aware that the used game news hadn't come out yet.

snowfi6916:

Susan Arendt:

MrCollins:
Interesting stuff, not that I really feel concerned. I want to play games, and the presentation did not cater to an audience that plays games.
Might I ask why you didn't address the issue of Installing games on the hard drive and a fee being required for used games?

snowfi6916:
Really guys? You honestly think that the Xbox One has a BETTER chance than the PS4?

Didn't you hear the part where Microsoft is going to CHARGE YOU AGAIN FOR USED GAMES THAT YOU ALREADY BOUGHT?

Unless Microsoft scrapes that quickly, they do not have a snowball's chance in hell against the PS4, which btw, does NOT require you to pay again for a used game.

Did any of us say we thought it had a better chance than the PS4? I don't recall that happening.

Also, we recorded this immediately after the live event, so the information about the fee for used games (or not fee, depending on who was saying what at what moment) hadn't come out yet. That's why we didn't address that during the discussion. Same for the info about installing on the hard drive, and the having to connect to the internet once every 24 hours. We'll address those issues in the regular weekly podcast.

My mistake then. I thought you guys said something about Microsoft looking better than Sony. Also I wasn't aware that the used game news hadn't come out yet.

Maybe give us a bit more benefit of the doubt next time before you start yelling, eh? ;)

Susan Arendt:

Amy's Baking Company. It must be seen to be believed, truly.

Even after seeing it, I have trouble believing it. The most well-oiled crazy train I have ever seen.

P.S-My family were huge fans of 1 vs. 100, built a whole game night around it.

while i don't expect this to be an actual issue i can totally see someones video game illiterate grand mother buying the xbox 360 over the xbox one, when asked to buy the new xbox as a gift, because of the implied first from the one. i myself don't like the name but ill holdoff final judgement until the gaming zeitgeist decides on a shorthand for it. the best i could come up with is X1.

Susan Arendt:

snowfi6916:

Susan Arendt:

Did any of us say we thought it had a better chance than the PS4? I don't recall that happening.

Also, we recorded this immediately after the live event, so the information about the fee for used games (or not fee, depending on who was saying what at what moment) hadn't come out yet. That's why we didn't address that during the discussion. Same for the info about installing on the hard drive, and the having to connect to the internet once every 24 hours. We'll address those issues in the regular weekly podcast.

My mistake then. I thought you guys said something about Microsoft looking better than Sony. Also I wasn't aware that the used game news hadn't come out yet.

Maybe give us a bit more benefit of the doubt next time before you start yelling, eh? ;)

Justin stated that he thought we "know" more about the Xbox One, than we know about the PS4, I think this might be where the confusion lies, When Paul said he thought they were on par, Justin said he thought the Xbox One was ahead.... You disagreed, but Justin did say that.

Did I just hear them make fun of a Star Trek Kickstarter?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/145553614/star-trek-renegades

Hello?

Meh. I already have a nondescript black box that has mandatory installations and games associated with online accounts. Honestly not seeing the appeal of this generation at all. Nothing like the entertainment and tech revolution vibe we got from the last one. Beginning to think investing in a long HDMI cable for my desktop to my TV is overall the more sound investment.

well it looks like i have to give up on gaming until the stem box comes out !!

The systems are just dropping like flies this generation.

First the PS Vita, then the Wii U, now the XBOX One. Only the Nintendo 3DS has been left standing.

Looks like we're going to hear success for only two systems this generation, the Nintendo 3DS and the Sony PlayStation.
Turns out Adam Orth isn't the only person at Microsoft who loves always on. He was just the messenger.

That was a lot of questions right there at the end, but ok.

The name does nothing for me. I know that MS is terrified that calling it the Xbox3 would make it seem less powerful than the PS4 but "One"? It is about as stupid as the Wii. Just stop putting mission statements in your name please, especially when the naming scheme has already been used by Sony (the made a remodel of the original Playstation and called it "the PSone").

Will I buy it? Right now that would be a no. While kinda neat, voice and motion control does not seem like something I need nor would use (also I have doubts about the fidelity of both of them). In fact, for me, it all comes down to exclusives. I do not think I will get both a PS4 and a Xbox One (ugh that name) so I will pick up the one with, to me, more interesting exclusives. Historically that has been the PS but lets see what MS has to offer.

And a quick question for you guys:
It seems that the best art comes from the artist fighting against restraints. This forces them to come up with more elegant and creative solutions. As Susan herself said, she just witnessed a lot of incredible creative games all trying to get the very best out of current game hardware. Do you guys think there is a danger of this creativity dying again as the restraints are lifted?

The Xbox One doesn't interest me in the least.

I don't watch enough TV or movies for this "entertainment center" ideal to pull through for me. I just want a box and a controller with which to play games.

The only thing about this announcement that's perked my ears is the supposed 15 exclusives in its first year. What was it, 8 of them are going to be new IPs? Hm, well... we'll just see how that turns out. But given that Microsoft is hellbent on making you love Kinect, and reaching to the broadest audience possible... I hold no high hopes.

I will be getting the PS4 though. Sony's earned my consumer trust (and also their exclusive IPs are the bomb-diggity).

Honestly ATM PS4 has one big thing on XBone, how easy it is to develop for. Which says to me it will probably get a lot more support from smaller companies.

That being said I play almost entirely Indie PC games or niche Handheld titles, so I guess neither really sparks my interest.

Susan Arendt:

EmperorZuma:
What episode of kitchen nightmares was everyone talking about?

Amy's Baking Company. It must be seen to be believed, truly.

Girl be right off the cray scale.

Susan Arendt:

snowfi6916:

Susan Arendt:

Did any of us say we thought it had a better chance than the PS4? I don't recall that happening.

Also, we recorded this immediately after the live event, so the information about the fee for used games (or not fee, depending on who was saying what at what moment) hadn't come out yet. That's why we didn't address that during the discussion. Same for the info about installing on the hard drive, and the having to connect to the internet once every 24 hours. We'll address those issues in the regular weekly podcast.

My mistake then. I thought you guys said something about Microsoft looking better than Sony. Also I wasn't aware that the used game news hadn't come out yet.

Maybe give us a bit more benefit of the doubt next time before you start yelling, eh? ;)

I was wondering why all the actual news about the XBoned wasn't included.

What's going to happen is all will die except the dog. We'll spend the next 2 games playing as the dog as he seeks the enemy and tennis balls.

30 minutes in, anyone going to talk about games?

WMDogma:

Aw... Aw dude. I hope that's not the case, but in a series where you've already had do some really horrible things (Modern Warfare 2's airport scene, for example), I can totally see them making the player have to go through that.

Susan Arendt:

Oh, dude, I bet you're right.

What can I say, I know my Call Of Duty.

Doesn't make me feel any less horrible for coming up with the idea though, I must say.

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