Hands-On: Ryse: Son of Rome Is Xbox One Combat Devolved

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Hands-On: Ryse: Son of Rome Is Xbox One Combat Devolved

Ryse looks pretty, but the combat isn't anything you haven't played before.

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So it's pretty typical of everything Crytek does?

I'm pretty disappointed that nothing was asked about the rather sharp shift in gameplay. Last we saw, Ryse was supposed to be a Kinect game where we controlled everything with our actions.

And yet that isn't even brought up at all in this, sadly. Instead we get some pretty button-masher game, which is pretty much a dime a dozen nowadays.

This would be so much better without the PRESS A TO KILL BAD GUY prompt. This game is almost a parody of how prevalent QTEs have become in gaming.

QTE where you don't even have to press the right button?

BRILLIANT!

Hey, it's Saving Privitius Ryanomus!

I don't see much in the way of gameplay and the tech jump is less than Xbox to 360.

This could have been a great game - it still looks very good graphically and I love the setting, but the gameplay looks like complete crap. I wasn't even sure where it was set - I was under the impression that it was in Dover, but you say Germanic enemies, so I guess it must be Dover having been taken by Saxon raiders or something and then the Romans are for some reason trying to launch D-day against the British Isles.

The game looked visually impressive, and I enjoyed the art style and general feel of the game. The ability to use formations and command troops is a unique aspect, and hope that it is applied well throughout the game instead of being used once or twice.
However, I feel that having to quick time event every single enemy is a bit extraneous, as I think I saw the same animation twice, and, as this is just a trailer, imagine an entire game with the same animations.
Although I may not be buying an XboxOne, I hope they do well with the game, and wish them good luck.

Game about a Germanic tribesman fighting to save his people against a genocidal Roman invasion when?

If this is the decline of Rome then I'm pretty sure that those Roman uniforms are historically inaccurate

It's surprising how much of the game is dulled or concealed by shadow. Aside from some of the pretty particle effects in the air, you would think the creators didn't have much faith in the graphics engine.

...But this is Crytek, so that can't be the case, right?

...Unless they're really straining to tie pieces of unfinished 360 game together into something they can offer for the XBox One launch. Which would be kind of sad and unfortunate.

Other than that, yeah, very "beachhead at Normandy" in affect. And I'll second the idea that turning this into something more like a Roman-skinned Dynasty Warriors instead of a chance to show off what the Kinect could actually contribute to gameplay was a missed opportunity.

It doesn't look like a bad game, but it's hard to imagine anyone buying the XBox One solely in anticipation of getting their hands on this.

THE_MUFFIN_MAN15:
If this is the decline of Rome then I'm pretty sure that those Roman uniforms are historically inaccurate

And since when did the Germanic tribes build... multi-layered stone fortresses?

Was that a trebuchet in that tower? Why did every single legionnaire look copy pasted? Why were the shields so small? Why would they engage archers with pila? Where were they keeping them? Why would they all spread out immediately after disembarking when their army was designed to fight in formation (some general you turned out to be!)?

Gears of Rome... could have been so much better than that QTE mess.

Abomination:

THE_MUFFIN_MAN15:
If this is the decline of Rome then I'm pretty sure that those Roman uniforms are historically inaccurate

And since when did the Germanic tribes build... multi-layered stone fortresses?

Was that a trebuchet in that tower? Why did every single legionnaire look copy pasted? Why were the shields so small? Why would they engage archers with pila? Where were they keeping them? Why would they all spread out immediately after disembarking when their army was designed to fight in formation (some general you turned out to be!)?

Gears of Rome... could have been so much better than that QTE mess.

Not to mention the gladius: well known for its use as a slashing sword. Or the horrible voice over at the beginning... my god. Yes, Rome was definitely known for its freedom...

Also why is Ryse misspelled?

i find it hilariously fitting that a launch title for the xbone is about a bloated empire that brought about its own end.

Frotality:
i find it hilariously fitting that a launch title for the xbone is about a bloated empire that brought about its own end.

Good one...I enjoyed that!

Lots and lots of chocolate cookies for you.

^.^

Dimitriov:

Abomination:

THE_MUFFIN_MAN15:
If this is the decline of Rome then I'm pretty sure that those Roman uniforms are historically inaccurate

And since when did the Germanic tribes build... multi-layered stone fortresses?

Was that a trebuchet in that tower? Why did every single legionnaire look copy pasted? Why were the shields so small? Why would they engage archers with pila? Where were they keeping them? Why would they all spread out immediately after disembarking when their army was designed to fight in formation (some general you turned out to be!)?

Gears of Rome... could have been so much better than that QTE mess.

Not to mention the gladius: well known for its use as a slashing sword. Or the horrible voice over at the beginning... my god. Yes, Rome was definitely known for its freedom...

Also why is Ryse misspelled?

Hell if I know, but it sure keeps reminding me of League of Legends.

Honestly, this whole thing almost seems a caricature - they've certainly managed to hit every single cliche they could think of, right down to the Saving Private Ryan shout-out on the beach.

Also: those QTE slowmotion moments really are godawful. It breaks flow, forcibly reminds you that there's a controller between your will and the game, nags you to consciously think about what button to press, and generally cheapens any sense of achievement you might've had about a kill.

Looks like it would have made a pretty cool action movie...

Guess that'd explain the XBone exclusivity. The perfect platform for game designers that secretly wanted to be movie directors.

I actually quite liked the video... ..till the gameplay started.

I'm not the only one whom on screen quicktime button prompts break's immersion for am I?

God...it really is QTE: The Game.

"Helpful hints popped up to let me know an achievement was possible if I pushed a guy off a battlement for an environmental kill, and there will be hundreds of such tips on your second screen if you so desire"

Is this what passes for a game now? A set of instructions on getting more internet penis points?

So it's not ENTIRELY a QTE. Just partially.

Lovely. That makes things much better.

Ironside:
This could have been a great game - it still looks very good graphically and I love the setting, but the gameplay looks like complete crap. I wasn't even sure where it was set - I was under the impression that it was in Dover, but you say Germanic enemies, so I guess it must be Dover having been taken by Saxon raiders or something and then the Romans are for some reason trying to launch D-day against the British Isles.

Ironside:
This could have been a great game - it still looks very good graphically and I love the setting, but the gameplay looks like complete crap. I wasn't even sure where it was set - I was under the impression that it was in Dover, but you say Germanic enemies, so I guess it must be Dover having been taken by Saxon raiders or something and then the Romans are for some reason trying to launch D-day against the British Isles.

Abomination:

THE_MUFFIN_MAN15:
If this is the decline of Rome then I'm pretty sure that those Roman uniforms are historically inaccurate

And since when did the Germanic tribes build... multi-layered stone fortresses?

Was that a trebuchet in that tower? Why did every single legionnaire look copy pasted? Why were the shields so small? Why would they engage archers with pila? Where were they keeping them? Why would they all spread out immediately after disembarking when their army was designed to fight in formation (some general you turned out to be!)?

Gears of Rome... could have been so much better than that QTE mess.

Folks after my own heart. When did the germanii start building stone fortresses?

Why do game designers think that everybody after 1 A.D. had trebuchet? Why do game designers think that catapult shots were missiles? It took literally thousands of stones to bring down a wall or tower. Thousands over the course of months.

Dimitriov:
Or the horrible voice over at the beginning... my god. Yes, Rome was definitely known for its freedom...

Also why is Ryse misspelled?

They certainly did have freedoms... if you were a land-owning male Roman who had performed 20 years of military serivice.

Everyone else? Not so much... but you're not fighting for THEIR freedom, you're fighting for YOUR freedom.

It's probably trying to be cRYSEtek or something.

Woo, another hacky-slashy god of war wannabe. Where's the option to command a centry of troops, paying attention to your soldiers state of fatigue and signaling when to make the risky front line rotation? A "General" leading his troops in melee? How absurd. People been watching too much Gladiator and thinking it's a reflection of Rome.

No thanks, I'll wait until the PC Exclusive Rome 2: Total War available on Steam with all its modding support and more playable factions than just "Dude in a frilly red hat".

the design intent wasn't for combat to be like a quick-time event.

Really? Because it seems like they designed the entire combat system around QTEs...and apparently it's not even "Press X To Not Die", but rather it's "Press Any Key To Continue."

Frotality:
i find it hilariously fitting that a launch title for the xbone is about a bloated empire that brought about its own end.

Sweet, delicious irony! +1 everything to you for pointing it out. Sadly, the Roman Empire limped on for many years before finally collapsing; the same could be true of microsoft.

Anywho, the gameplay reminds me of that dull Space Marine game (the warhammer 40k one). So, yeah, if killer apps where what microsoft where planning to woo us with, I remain unconvinced. Sticking with my beautiful, controlled by me PC - and if you Microsoft fools try to take that from me, I know how to use Linux, and I'm not afraid to use it.

this is just like Crytec. pretty grapics, little substance

Now, I'm no military strategist, so maybe I'm missing something, but when approaching the archers with their seemingly infallible shield wall technique, why did they suddenly ditch that tactic half way there and expose themselves in order to hurl their spears? Wouldn't it have been more prudent to continue in the same vein until they got close enough to render their enemy's arrows useless and proceed to cut them down with the most deadly weapon at the Roman's disposal: the QTE?

Still, it often turns out the earliest games out the door at the start of a generation are hardly the most spectacular, for the most part.

Very good looking game but the QTEs in every fight are just too much. I like my combat visceral but I prefer having more control over it. Besides, I wasn't big on the Xbox One to begin with so this doesn't feel like a loss.

I'd just like to point out that expecting historical accuracy from an action game is probably asking too much.

Now expecting enjoyable gameplay, on the other hand...

I've had my fill and more of GoW clones.

Doug:

Frotality:
i find it hilariously fitting that a launch title for the xbone is about a bloated empire that brought about its own end.

Sweet, delicious irony! +1 everything to you for pointing it out. Sadly, the Roman Empire limped on for many years before finally collapsing; the same could be true of microsoft.

Anywho, the gameplay reminds me of that dull Space Marine game (the warhammer 40k one). So, yeah, if killer apps where what microsoft where planning to woo us with, I remain unconvinced. Sticking with my beautiful, controlled by me PC - and if you Microsoft fools try to take that from me, I know how to use Linux, and I'm not afraid to use it.

The difference between this and Space Marine is that Space Marine was reflective of the setting... it was actually pretty fun and didn't invole QTEs all over the place.

Looks uninteresting.

Up until they had the part where you can command a formation, that looked pretty interesting!
Though it's probably less fun than it could be.
And you probably hardly ever use it.

Despite that was the reason Rome was so good as killing.
Formations and tactics.

Oh so that's what it looks like. For some reason I was under the impression that it was going to be a first person melee combat game, maybe because of all the references to Saving Private Ryan's D-Day scene I've been seeing in regards to the demo. Combine that with the idea that the combat was like Arkham Aslyum (which isn't interesting in any game that's tried it outside of the Arkham games honestly), I was a little curious about how it'd work. That's all out the window now, I am decidedly less interested.

why do they have to have british accents?

there are italian and latin accents that doesnt sound like mario and luigi, you know...

Dimitriov:

Abomination:

THE_MUFFIN_MAN15:
If this is the decline of Rome then I'm pretty sure that those Roman uniforms are historically inaccurate

And since when did the Germanic tribes build... multi-layered stone fortresses?

Was that a trebuchet in that tower? Why did every single legionnaire look copy pasted? Why were the shields so small? Why would they engage archers with pila? Where were they keeping them? Why would they all spread out immediately after disembarking when their army was designed to fight in formation (some general you turned out to be!)?

Gears of Rome... could have been so much better than that QTE mess.

Not to mention the gladius: well known for its use as a slashing sword. Or the horrible voice over at the beginning... my god. Yes, Rome was definitely known for its freedom...

Also why is Ryse misspelled?

Also, why did they throw three of the exact same spears at the enemy? A Roman Legionary would have only had 2 pila, and the weren't uniform, mostly because the legionaries would have made them themselves.

And like others have said, I'd love to see the Germanic tribe that managed to build a medieval castle complete with catapults..... right next to the ocean. No offense to any Germanic tribesmen out there, but they were mostly still trying to make wooden walls. If this were made by a Greeks/Egyptians/Any other civilization south of Germany, Gaul, Britain, I would be willing to believe they would make a castle.

Frotality:
i find it hilariously fitting that a launch title for the xbone is about a bloated empire that brought about its own end.

I laughed. +1 Internets for you (allow 4 to 6 weeks for delivery).

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