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Paperboy Posts: 13 Joined: 12 Jul 2006 | I've noticed that in the past, we've had alot of permanent, big things, but now we're depending on much more numerous, smaller, and more mobile things to get the job done. We don't have big armies marching all over the place now, we have special forces and squads. We don't have big clunky phones, we have cell phones. We've got smaller private corporations going up. Same goes for entertainment I suppose. |
Paperboy Posts: 26 Joined: 12 Jul 2006 | I didn't get the whole class thing. Here in the UK I don't think the proportions of classes are changing much, and it's not really about money either. You can be working class with Sky, a widescreen telly and a PS2 or whatever. I also thought it sounded a crap future. The games were not innovative but dull and simple, mashing together gone before formulae. I like Grid Wars and Mucade, but if all games were that simple it'd be rubbish. I don't like arcade games much, or fighting games, or platformers. Personally out of the futures here this is the one I understand the least, and cannot imagine as reality. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 634 Joined: 13 Jul 2006 | An interesting bit of speculative fiction, but I have to wonder - what happens to the Internet in all this? |
Contributor Posts: 119 Joined: 11 Jul 2006 | Bob-I don't think you have the same issues facing the middle class in the US (yet), which might be why it didn't make much sense to you. In writing this, I had to balance between going on endlessly to set up the premise (which I would've done, trust me, but no one would want to read it, not even me) and getting into the meat of the article. I probably could have explained a bit better, however, I tried to write it like an Escapist piece would look in 2020, and thus hinted at plenty of documentation past to say "You're all tired of reading about this, you know what happened, so let's go," as I would if I was writing about something people were sick of hearing about today. Bongo-I assumed the Internet would largely exist in its present form, but neatly dodged "Why don't they use the Internet?" by keeping universal wireless blocked by the huge telecoms (much as it is today) and assuming it's hard to find a good wireless connection when you're sleeping at a rest stop. Basically, I assumed a stagnation in just about everything as the middle class workers quit spending money and didn't have time to innovate, since they were only working for a week or two at a time. |
Staff Emeritus Posts: 1124 Joined: 7 Jul 2006 | Interestingly enough, This came up in the New York Times today: And later on:
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Infamous Scribbler Posts: 634 Joined: 13 Jul 2006 | I'd disagree with that assertion - what is this group housing thing, if not itself a free-market solution? |
Staff Emeritus Posts: 1124 Joined: 7 Jul 2006 | It is a free-market solution, but it only solves his immediate problem: finding a place to sleep. His assertion still stands, though. Paying what he is for what he has only hurts him and helps the people providing him with the roof over his head. It's the common problem of renting vs. owning. You don't get ahead when you rent. But he's stuck doing that for any number of reasons, not the least of which being the fact baby boomers are clogging the workplace because they can't afford to retire, which, you guessed it, is a free-market problem. |
CEO & Publisher Posts: 589 Joined: 12 Nov 2002 | Joe... come back to the House of Capitalism. Ayn and I miss you. Seriously: Using the difficulty of buying housing in New York as an example of a "free market failure" is like using the price of Ferrari Enzos as an argument that today's middle class can't afford a car. Housing is expensive in Manhattan because supply is limited while demand is unlimited. Nobody "has" to live in Manhattan unless you're in Broadway or Wall Street, and in both cases, you know what you're getting in to. As for the baby boomers, I agree with you that there are generational issues at hand, but I'd put a lot more weight on medicare/social security burdens that are going to fall on your generation than any concerns of Baby Boomers "clogging" the workplace. Or, put another way, you're a hell of a lot better off with them still working then you'll be when they all retire and you get to pay for it. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 5 Joined: 11 Jul 2006 | To be fair, not even Wall Streeters need to live in Manhattan. That's what New Jersey is for. |
Editor-in-Chief Posts: 2274 Joined: 1 May 2006 | And the Broadway folk are all hippie-communists like Joe, so ... yeah. I say wall off the whole island and use it as a prison. |
Paperboy Posts: 30 Joined: 12 Jul 2006 | All the more Reason to move to Canada or the West Coast... Although, from Fletchers description I might like Broadway. |
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