OMG Girlz Don't Exist on teh Intarweb!!!!1

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There is so much truth to this story, and it is so, so sad. When I revealed that I was a girl by speaking on vent, I was suddenly treated a whole lot better by the guild. Within the next week, I was getting requests for pictures a few times a day, and when I eventually did post a picture in my guild's picture thread on our forums, it all just got worst. People literally paid me to be their "e-girlfriend," someone linked my picture on the official WoW forums and I got nonstop tells about how I must be an e-whore for linking a picture. Yeah, except it was never intended to be seen by the entire server community, it was just for the guild who I had spent months with and grown to really like. No one took me seriously anymore, they just saw me as someone who used her looks/being a girl to get ahead. It was a terrible mistake on my part to think that I was on an equal level with the guys and that me linking my picture was no worse than them linking theirs. I've come to the conclusion that it is better to just keep quiet.

Teleios:
OMG Girlz Don't Exist on teh Intarweb!!!!1

"I am a girl, but girls do not exist on the internet." Whitney 'Teleios' Butts relates her multiplayer gaming experiences, as a girl on the internet.

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I'm sensing a T*TS or GTFO in the making.

PP: WoW geeks are the geeks of all geeks as far as geeks go. they're also the largest population of 12-15 kiddies gathered around a single place on teh netz. So no wonderz it are teh pwnage over there - I've tried gowing to a WoW realm IRC channel - the topic to the channel was set at "Have fun and ignore the retards.".

PPP: Girls are still a rarity on the nets - it's somewhat linked to the fact that a girl naturally has a higher chance of developing a life and thus evading any activity related to not leaving home unless you need to shop for food and being a virgin.

clairedelune:
There is so much truth to this.......

Well I personally know one very cool girl who plays Horde on WoW (Illidan) and tends to be reaaly awesome about stuff but she's also a fellow Anon so I guess that explains things.

God I miss my IRC channel...

Wow, i just read your article, and just wow. I never knew people online could be so ignorant, stupid, immature, *rambles off on a tangent spewing words with increased ferocity*.
When i was reading it i was just in awe that real people could actually be so stupid, it beggars belief truly. I think my faith in humanity just decreased further, that's assuming i had an faith in it to begin with.
Girls, to me, are people like just like the rest of us(that's because they are lol)and as such should be treated with the exact same respect you would give your male peers. You wouldn't ask a male friend who you've never met before for their picture would you? So why think that that behaviour is acceptable with women? It's fucking disrespectful and degrading. I actually feel ashamed of guys when they do stupid shit like this, just solidifying the stereotype that we all don't believe there are girls on the internet.

I just can't understand the reasoning behind it all, out of the 6 million odd people on the world, how could they think that only guys frequent the internet.
I'm sorry i'm going to finish this post before i end up punching a wall lol.
If i ever decide to play WoW(i've never played it before)then i'll be sure to ask if you could show me the ropes.

Great article btw, made my day, it gave me a good laugh along with making me angry at the stupidity of some people(guys). Hope you've been treated better since you wrote it.

Humm...past few guilds I've been in in WoW have been headed by women, current one too. They were good guilds too, though I don't think it was due to our Guildmaster's gender. That said, alot of that stuff mentioned in the article takes place, however, we have quite a few female members, and anything like that is all done in joking manner, nothing serious, though we've had members leave because they took it too seriously. This goes for our realm too, which, maybe the fact that it's an RP/PvP realm has got something to do with it. It's a little weird, as we're all very mature when it comes to RP, but in the guild chat and 'RP' channel, it's all ASCII penises amongst serious RP discussion.

As for the rest, well, that kind of crap is off putting in most circumstances. I guess, though it's oft said, ignoring it is all you can really do. Nice article though, some of it was quite funny hehe.

Indeed, girls are not a rarity. In fact I think they make the best gamers - ability to multitask comes into its own playing games

Indeed, girls are not a rarity. In fact I think they make the best gamers - ability to multitask comes into its own playing games

No. Gender does not skill potential make.

nightfish:
Indeed, girls are not a rarity. In fact I think they make the best gamers - ability to multitask comes into its own playing games

Yeah, I'm not really sure the idea that women are better at multi-tasking then men is true.

Wouldn't it depend on what things you were juggling? For instance, if you put a baby in my girlfriends hands, I'm sure she could deal with that, while cooking up some mean pasta, and talking on the phone. Put a baby in my hands and that's all I'd be able to think about. I'd be unable to do much else. But, I'm not really great with other peoples children (and I don't have any of my own, yet.)

But, put a keyboard and mouse in front of my girlfriend and there's just no way she could type, talk, and play a video game at the same time. But I could do all that with my left hand alone!

I realize that's purely anecdotal, but my point is, I believe it completely depends on what tasks you're doing, and how comfortable you are with those said tasks.

Girls make fine gamers. Perfectly fine. But to say they're "better" just makes you sound like you're trying to get laid, or something. No offense.

runtheplacered:

nightfish:
Indeed, girls are not a rarity. In fact I think they make the best gamers - ability to multitask comes into its own playing games

Yeah, I'm not really sure the idea that women are better at multi-tasking then men is true.

Wouldn't it depend on what things you were juggling? For instance, if you put a baby in my girlfriends hands, I'm sure she could deal with that, while cooking up some mean pasta, and talking on the phone. Put a baby in my hands and that's all I'd be able to think about. I'd be unable to do much else. But, I'm not really great with other peoples children (and I don't have any of my own, yet.)

But, put a keyboard and mouse in front of my girlfriend and there's just no way she could type, talk, and play a video game at the same time. But I could do all that with my left hand alone!

I realize that's purely anecdotal, but my point is, I believe it completely depends on what tasks you're doing, and how comfortable you are with those said tasks.

Girls make fine gamers. Perfectly fine. But to say they're "better" just makes you sound like you're trying to get laid, or something. No offense.

None taken runtheplacered.

I understand your ideas although I was getting at the fact that in my experience women are more organised, thats why, as mentioned in previous posts a lot of (good) clans are headed by women

Amusing article,

I've always found the phrase GIRLZ DON'T EXIST ON THE INTARWEBZ to be falacious, since I know more girls who spend excessive time on the intrawebs than guys. Though I don't know as many female gamers, the ones who do game play a lot of WoW however.

what are you talking about, there are no girls on the internet. Even the girls on the porn sites are fake...*cough* not...not that I have ever been to one *looks around, closes curtain*.

that last sentence or two is obviously fake becuse I don't own a curtain. There are lots of girls on the internet, and some gamergirls but whenever there is a girl playing on live every guy instantly turns into the crocodile hunter (you know, minus the sintgray barb in his heart....what, too soon? [har-har that's a joke don't take that seriously])

"crikey! the rare GRLZ in xbox live! U never see these buggers around. They're incdredibly easy to beat (becuase they're naturaly born n00bs), and if they kick your ass they MUST be cheating...I;m going to try a cheezy pick up line and hit on this stranger that I've never met to see if she will show me her b00bs and we have hot sex0rz!!!!!1"

that's normaly how it goes. there's always that one or two guys.

Comments are TLDR.

Basically there's a number of factors to it, the first amoung them being the uncommon presence of estrogen. The internet is still predominately male with few girls and even fewer who speak out or make themselves known as girls and even fewer beyond those who are just some dude's girlfriend. When you account for the number of dudes pretending to be chicks whether it be to mess with people or to exploit them you introduce doubt in the integrity of all females. While it may seem like that should be a simple thing guys have been doing it to each other forever. All that said a double take or even a triple take is not something unreasonable and is to be expected.

Another of the factos is the number of teenagers on the internet, who natually have little or no experience with women as well as being hormonally unstable. I don't feel that this needs much explaining, these are your typical kids who freeze up talking to girls IRL and the same happens on the net. The key difference of course is that they can throw insults and denial around freely with no repercussions to escape from the 'crisis'.

"Pics or GTFO" This is an internet joke with a power level OVER 9000! It doesn't apply only to females and can be used in many situations, like a thread about Yagami Light plushies, and is of course meant as a joke by most people who use it. The only problems come in with the teenagers I mentioned above.

As brimstone mentioned just informing people that you're a girl is like a cry for attention whether you intend it that way or not. Most of the guys hit the brakes to watch whatever it is you do and naturally everything will crash if someone doesn't look where they're going. Girls and Guys are different and somewhere it's coded into genetics and society that these differences between guys and girl are to be excentuated infinitely. Things like brimstones story start rushing to the front of the male mind and it ruins the fun, thus the only thing left to do is make it so that the girl is one of the guys. Sometimes this happens in a good way and everyone gets along however usually it's easier to not take the risk and deny that the 'dude' is missing a few parts.

So what does all this boil down to? Homogeneity. The internet is made up of guys just hanging out with other guys having fun and the existence of chicks could ruin that balance. Everything is fine if the females are willing to just be one of the guys, there will be a ripple at first of course, however should they try to be a 'female of the internet' the homogeneity is broken and the fun ends. That is not to say however that the internet can only consist of females or only consist of males. In a way the guys of the internet do not have to possess testicles, as a female can easily just be one of the guys. Thus we reach my ultitmate point gender on the internet is meaningless, I can change my icon to that pink thing and have an avatar of george foreman... it simply doesn't matter. As silly as it may sound we are anonymous. We are formless. We are forever.

Sentios - TLDR

A nicely written article there. I choose my articles quite carefully as I hate the thought of wasting my time reading something quite dull but not actually realising it until my time has already been wasted, if you're with me? This particular article was a bit of a gamble though, the title suggested some rather dull reading (from my point of view), but I was pleasantly corrected. A good read, ta muchly.

The picture thing was horrible, dont dis guy gamers as a whole for one jerk though. Anyone who wants to be your e-boyfriend is probalby someone so deprived they brag to friends about talking to a girl on the internet. Face it dont put your pic out on WoW their are wayyy to many deprieved addicts that will get jealous or want their friends to see the pic to be cool.We have girls in our guild we NEVER EVER ask them stuff like that. Was your guild the crimson dagger or something? I might remember you im,was Hop-? Girl gamers AGAIN DO NOT FLOUNCE YOUR A GIRL DEPRIEVED GUYS WILL ATTACK YOU!

Larenxis:
The internet is such a big place, I hardly ever get bothered for being a girl. At EB Games though, I was once asked "where my man is" by the clerks.

z0mg Larenxis is a gurl?!?!?!1 Just kidding but seriously I didn't know that, just assumed... well, you know how it is. Damn stereotypes...
Yeah I often find myself being ashamed of others being immature about women being gamers as well. Happened quite recently on Halo 3 matchmaking, some tard thought it might be funny to give one of our teammates 2 options: "If you're a girl show your tits, if you're a boy stop talking you little bitch." He got a sticky to the face from me after that one. Yeah sure he was my teammate but I can't stand that shit, and hate it even more if these people go unpunished.
Maybe it's not in my rights to play judge jury and executioner and the girl in question should've done something but in honor of the way my mom raised me I'll be as much as a gentleman towards girls as I can. So yes, I too am guilty of chivalrous behavior towards girls online without any other reason than them being a girl. Dunno, just seems right.

And yeah, judging by the amount of girls who posted here on teh infamus intarwebz, I'd say the myth of women not existing online has been busted.

Sennz0r:

And yeah, judging by the amount of girls who posted here on teh infamus intarwebz, I'd say the myth of women not existing online has been busted.

Can I just explain that this 'myth' is like Wrestling being fake or Santa Claus not being real. Everyone over the age of 5 knows the truth of it (I hope), but when it's spoken in 1337speak, it refers to the mythology, rather than the myth itself.

See Chuck Norris, All your base, Over 9000 etc.

I play World Of Warcraft on U.S. Ravenholt (RPPVP) and I got my girlfriend to play it with me as well. From where I come from It is awkward for girls to play video games. I really wish it wasn't becuase they are a blast to game with.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Sennz0r:

And yeah, judging by the amount of girls who posted here on teh infamus intarwebz, I'd say the myth of women not existing online has been busted.

Can I just explain that this 'myth' is like Wrestling being fake or Santa Claus not being real. Everyone over the age of 5 knows the truth of it (I hope), but when it's spoken in 1337speak, it refers to the mythology, rather than the myth itself.

See Chuck Norris, All your base, Over 9000 etc.

Sadly this is not the case, seeing that a lot of people still amaze themselves over the fact that a girl just spoke to them in a WoW server, or hundreds of guys need to see a pic before they believe they're dealing with a girl, it doesn't seem to me that the whole internet community has totally embraced reality, which is that women DO in fact play the games they play.

It's not that guys don't believe a girl is playing unless they get a picture. They're just perverts who want something else to wank over, or to determine whether or not the girl is worth "hitting on".

Or, as I imagine in some cases... it is all said in jest anyway. Sort've like how I may pop out the ole "LOL!" to a friend, because that friends knows I would never use it in a serious manner... but if I were to go into a game and do that, to me is still holds the same sarcastic tone, but to others I might look like a right diptard.

Personally I find hitting on girls online pointless. Chances are the girl I actually meet online is in another country alltogethe, usually in the U.S. or something, so what's the point? If you're that desperate try online dating at the places where people actually go to to get a partner.

It's either that or men are sceptic because they've been fooled by a guy pretending to be a girl.

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Sexist gamers are just essentially a bunch of geeks who cant take being beaten by someone without a dick. Plain and simple.

Well, no. We've gone over this with quite some detail recently, especially with 2 other threads related to females and insults. See: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.62227?page=1 ... and I can't find the other (original) one that the poll thread was based off of. I haven't actually searched for it... it's just not infront of me, and I'm feeling very lazy.

Huh...I think I met the writer of this piece for maybe 5 seconds at a developer conference back in January. The Escapist is published by a company called the Themis Group that produces a couple of publications and I didn't really key in to who I was talking to until Macris and a guy whose name started with an R realized I was press (or passing myself off as one, whatever).

I think the precise hesitation in my head for going up and chatting was the uncomfortable sensation that I was one guy in a sea of guys going up to talk with the only girl in the area, official reasons or no. It is hard to not get self-conscious or intensely aware of sexual overtones when the populations are so disproportionate. That perception the author notes, coming across as desperate, is precisely what a lot of people want to avoid.

Hi i just joined a few seconds a go to add my two pence to this discussion.

when i play online games, primary on Xbox live although i do play some PC games, i treat everyone, male of female, with respect and politlness. It only the F**Ktars who think jthat just because they play the game more, i should worship them as gods who annoy me

anyone remeber when the halo 3 beta came out? everyone was calling eatch other a noob just because their download finished 0.234581 seconds before everyone else's

anyway, i digress,
i met a female gamer on Guitar hero three once,but she also plays call of duty four, splinter cell double agent and team fortress and she can kick my ass at all of them.

i admit i'm kinda protective of her, but i think its because i'm an Englishman and a gentleman and most women seem to be unfairly targeted by the testosterone fueled meat heads that populate most severs.

lets face it, re spawning every few seconds isn't anyone's idea of fun and i want more women to play these games, they often come up with ideas the meatheads will not expect and hand us the victory. (not to mention they tone of conversations tends to improve.)

thanks for listening.

My girlfriend plays videogames=D one of the reasons I love her

More the merrier i reckon :) I play EvE and my CEO is a girl. I am fairly sure lots of girls play games very well.

It just plain pisses me off how stupid people can be. I can't stand those fucking testosterone filled fuckwods (the same way I'm not too fond of estrogen filled girls) I have no faith in humanity as a whole, but I do have faith in humans (The individual) If that makes sense.

I can see how it would be annoying to actually be a girl in the gaming community but please try to understand us guys; we have all gone through the torture of having some "girl" come up to us in an MMO and ask us out, then we have to go through the ball-busting decision process; "what if it actually is an extremely hot girl that geniuenly enjoys casual sex?!" Now, if your a guy and your not extremely commited to a relationship (aka -marrage) and your balls haven't stopped functioning properly then that kind of scenario isn't the sort of thing you turn down easily. However, to the dissapointmen of millions males, its not true. Or atleast it hardly ever is.

The amount of guys that really do pretend to be girls is sickeningly huge. Hop on a game like Runescape for 5 minuits, guarenteed you will see some typical blonde pig-taled "girl" standing around with the most revealing suit of armor on "she" could get "her" hands on shouting "need bf" with a name like "SexxxyJulyboobs2001". Its actually more common to male gamers than seeing a real girl is since, as you know, you have to go through the whole identification process just to make sure there isn't a giant penis lurking under the desk.

dmh99@hotmail.com:
More the merrier i reckon :) I play EvE and my CEO is a girl. I am fairly sure lots of girls play games very well.

Okay, while I have met and played with girls in a variety of games, EVE has not been one of them. Intriguing.

This is great, and true. Nobody seems to shake the mindset that only guys can play online. I've seen a lot of girls in many different games, (and have been brutally owned by many!). Of course, another well known fact of the internet is that way too many people are just little kids that don't know how to type anything other than text messenger chat, and throw out enough stereotypes to turn half the world against them.

Nobody seems to shake the mindset that only guys can play online

No no... we're pretty much with that. It's the females who still seem to think they don't exist. I've mentioned how much I love irony before... but... but just one more time can't hurt.

I love irony.

ErytheiaRed:
I play a proc speced warrior

This made me laugh out loud, im such a geek : (

But i think atleast in wow, there are s many girls now that im suprised anyone still think its worth writing articles about it (even though i know this article is 3 years old) im sure the populiation must be closing in on 30/70 or something, ive met/know havenoidea how many girls in game, atleas 50+(though i have had a rather long wow career), and im sure there is another 50+ that i have met/know ingame that i just dont know are girls =p Both of the raiding guilds i have been in had female guild masters (for the majority of the time i was in them.)

Eh. I honestly think I'm more likely to find girls in MMOs than FPS or RTS. There's that bit of social networking involved, but I could be talking out of my ass. The major proof of that is I was at a party recently when a few female friends of mine were at also, and the two of them along with three or four others got into an argument about which was better, Everquest or WoW. I've never played either of them. Made me laugh.
Or maybe I've just matured without ever having to deal with the problem.

well obviously someone cant be a girl irl if she doesnt post pics...duh /sarcasm

Talk about some dumb kids doing that conversation :P, i've been playing WoW for ages, and there's LOTS of girls in WoW, just in my guild we have like 5 of them, and we only have like 20 active people :P

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