Zero Punctuation: Halo 3

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Please listen, Mr. Yahtzee.

If you don't give a shit about multiplayer why did you even bother touching this game in the first place? Halo 3 is, at its core, a MULTIPLAYER game, in and out, through and through. Its de facto biggest selling point and whole reason for existence is the multiplayer aspect, which the Halo series wouldn't be even be NEAR as famous without, and the campaign mode is just this nice little story-driven game mode (which should be considered just a bonus addition) that won't make sense at all if you haven't played through the other two games.

Halo 3 was MADE for multiplayer, and that is its biggest selling point and why the Halo series has achieved more popularity than breathing. People are going to be playing the multiplayer for years, and the fact that you completely ignore the game's true purpose, the game's biggest feature of all, indeed, the very reason the game was CONCIEVED, is very disappointing.

Recently I was hanging out with my friend in his dorm, and his roommate was playing Halo 3. Naturally, since recently my Xbox died of fail, I asked him how the game was, and how it was different from Halo 2. He then proceeded to describe the additions they made to multi player and xbox live, but had failed to expound on how good the single player game was. This brought me to a crashing realization that the world was full of fucktards and spermswagglers. While I am not willing to admit that I completely shun this game, I have finally realized that You good sir, are capable of summarizing all my thoughts on video games into a hellish torrent of puns, criticisms and general silliness. So my hat is officially off to you, and your reviews, thanks for not masturbating the ego's of angry fan boys (fuck you G4).

As I'm sure someone else must have pointed out by now: This "You can't talk about it without multiplayer" malarkey is rubbish. The game is sold on its story and setting. The Master Chief is iconic because of the story everyone and his dog has apparently played, not because he's "The Doom Guy-ish looking model in that MP Bungi game". The notoriously hard marking Eurogamer (among many others) has already given it a ten when No One could possibly have assessed its multiplayer yet. So it's more than fair game.

Anyway, I'm missing a reference and it makes me feel less of a man. Who is the 'Average' guy who crops up now and then?

I love reading the reactions to Yahtzee's reviews. Once done I make a list of people who clearly lack a sense of humour. The list is really long now.

Next week I'm doing a list on idiots. Betcha the list has the same names on it :)

Hrm. I'm sure when I started reading the comments there were 3 pages. Now I'm three pages in there are 5. The trouble with reading forum threads is that it is like watching a car wreck - the same sort of horrid fascination that doesn't let you look away.

I find one of the (saddest|funniest) things about the Internet is that everyone takes everything so damned seriously... even the comedy. Learn to laugh a little people, you'll be happier and live longer. It may come as a surprise to some people, but the purpose of the Internet is not to be a rage faucet - that's what telemarketers are for.

And also, quoted for irony:

walshicus:
For a man who hadn't even heard of the Elite series until I posted about it a few minutes ago you're remarkably stuck up about video game culture.

Seminal or not, you hardly need to have been locked in a box your entire life to not have heard of Elite. I'm sure there are plenty of people who haven't heard of say Marathon or Pathways Into Darkness, both of which would have much more relevance in a Bungie thread, but that wouldn't make them ignorant of contemporary gaming issues, which is all I've really seen discussed here so far.

(Also, 'video game culture' gave me a bit of a chortle. Images sprang to mind of wrinkly old gamers taking their grandkids to the museum to see a street fighter arcade machine or a lovingly restored Amiga running an antiquated wireframe space simulator ;) I wonder if it'll ever get to the point where early video games will have the same charm [to non-gamers] as an early cave painting does to non-anthropologists.)

Edit: Oh and I have to thank whoever it was that said that 10/10 didn't necessarily mean a game was perfect. One of the few genuine laughs in this, err, discussion. Probably a good argument to move to a higher precision scale, although there are plenty of reviewers who seem happy to give out 100s too.

I'd really like to take Yahtzee home to meet my mum, I think she'd be shocked a little by him but yet would still find him strangely endearing.

WafflesToo:

FACT.50:
I played through the SP campaign last week, and I was left with the same impression I had of Halo's 1 and 2... pretty graphics, dumbed down controls, recycled levels, and the most annoying online community in the fucking world.

...besides, if you DO give a damn about multiplayer there's Battlefront, 2142, and Ureal Tourniment that already do that... only better.

Don't forget Quake Wars.

PsychoJosh:
Please listen, Mr. Yahtzee.

If you don't give a shit about multiplayer why did you even bother touching this game in the first place? Halo 3 is, at its core, a MULTIPLAYER game, in and out, through and through. Its de facto biggest selling point and whole reason for existence is the multiplayer aspect, which the Halo series wouldn't be even be NEAR as famous without, and the campaign mode is just this nice little story-driven game mode (which should be considered just a bonus addition) that won't make sense at all if you haven't played through the other two games.

Halo 3 was MADE for multiplayer, and that is its biggest selling point and why the Halo series has achieved more popularity than breathing. People are going to be playing the multiplayer for years, and the fact that you completely ignore the game's true purpose, the game's biggest feature of all, indeed, the very reason the game was CONCIEVED, is very disappointing.

On the same hand, is it a good reason to shadow the solo experience?

After all, the story of Halo 3 gets pretentious and supposedly complex, with even a couple of books to back it up.
If we're not right to judge the game on its solo part considering the work they put in it, what should we do exactly?

More, would it mean that you concede that it's not that stellar?

Above all, you got to think in terms of overall market. Maybe on the console, there's nothing to beat Halo 3's MP, but just wait to see when it will have to compare to PC products.

Yep, totally agree with the (finally honest halo3) review.
Imho, HALO series = most overrated & overhyped game series ever.
The only reason why halo got rated so high is becouse all those simpleminded "console only" guys have never played a decent fps shooter on PC. Otherwise they would have known, that halo1-3 is just an average fps game compared to the standard set by fps games on PC.
And before you go and accuse me of being a PC fanboy, im not. I've played since late 80's (started on ZXSpectrum48K) and have owned pretty much every console that was out there since those times.

PsychoJosh:
Please listen, Mr. Yahtzee.

If you don't give a shit about multiplayer why did you even bother touching this game in the first place? Halo 3 is, at its core, a MULTIPLAYER game, in and out, through and through. Its de facto biggest selling point and whole reason for existence is the multiplayer aspect, which the Halo series wouldn't be even be NEAR as famous without, and the campaign mode is just this nice little story-driven game mode (which should be considered just a bonus addition) that won't make sense at all if you haven't played through the other two games.

Halo 3 was MADE for multiplayer, and that is its biggest selling point and why the Halo series has achieved more popularity than breathing. People are going to be playing the multiplayer for years, and the fact that you completely ignore the game's true purpose, the game's biggest feature of all, indeed, the very reason the game was CONCIEVED, is very disappointing.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the type of person that I despise. The type of person that has ruined the reputation of halo. This specimen is too busy thinking of imaginative new ways to scream "headshot!" to possibly comprehend a plot with any level of depth. No doubt he skipped the cutscenes, or glazed over when they appeared. Multiplayer is the game's "true purpose?", the reason the game was concieved?! That's a slap in bungie's face. Bungie has has prided itself on its immersive story-driven games since the days of Marathon and before. In fact, the game was conceived as a rts, and even after it began to take fps form, its plot was fleshed out way before the multiplayer. Hell XBL was a pipe dream back then. Ask anyone at bungie what they're more proud of, the campaign or the multiplayer, and I bet you they'd say the campaign. Yes, mp naturally has more replay value, but if you think there's more substance in a multiplayer fragfest than in the campaign, which has spawned 4 novels and a wip movie (produced by peter jackson), well that speaks volumes about you, doesn't it?

I am one of many gamers out there who simply doesn't get much out of multiplayer games or the multiplayer component of games. The exception being in a Lan setting of course. Games to me are typically a personal experience, except when I have friends over and then maybe a party experience. I am generally not interested in being informed of how I was just Pwned nor do I enjoy listening to the ranting, diatribes of the uneducated masses that seem to thrive in this make-believe online world.

Merlynn:
Well,he honestly said that A) he hasn't played Halo 1 or 2 and therefore B) is not a Halo fan boy and that he C) does not care for multiplayer. He was honest. He just doesn't agree with you. He,honestly,found the game to be average at best and not the shining golden "king of all games and then some". Not everyone likes the same damn things. However,you do have to admit,as much as you disagree and think highly of Halo 3,it's still a funny review and enjoyable to watch.

Frankly,I wish you'd just wake up and realize that just because you like something doesn't mean everyone else has to validate it and agree with you. You can like something because it appeals to you. I didn't much care for Psychonauts. It was nice to play through,but I wouldn't ask people to hurt themselves if they didn't buy it. I also wouldn't much care to play it again and it's nowhere near being a favorite. Yet,I still think the Psychonauts review is funny.

You can't spend your life trying to convince people that your *opinion* is correct. It's like trying to convince people one pitcher of water is wetter than another pitcher of water. I have my preferences when it comes to games and if Yahtzee chooses to make fun of them,guess what? I'll still be playing them. Cause *I* enjoy them. I know it's hard sometimes to respect a contrary opinion from someone you respect,but it happens. And honestly,in Yahtzee's case,you should've known he'd have picked on the weaknesses of the game cause that's where the funny comes from for his ramblings. And that's why I say you're stupid. Cause you expected something completely different from what he's been doing. Which is a pretty dumb thing to do.

I really don't care who likes or dislikes Halo. I'm just calling him out on his claim of "honest opinion" because he: bashed the storyline without knowing 2/3 of it, didn't play a core feature of the game, has a vendetta against console gaming. But whatever. It's just a video game. It wasn't meant to be Macbeth. At it's core it's about running, jumping, driving, and flying around shooting things and making big explosions while hopefully having lots of fun doing it. Fer Crissakes, lighten up people.

Okay, I'm done now. I've reached my quota this week for arguing about video games.

You know, I posted here once with some disagreements about this review. However I just watched it again, taking into account that Halo isn't for everyone, something I knew anyway considering my best mate thinks World of Warcraft is the best thing since sliced sex and I find it a piece of mind-numbing tedium but somehow forgot when watching this before, and laughed. A lot.

So thanks you Yahtzee for making fun of my game of the year in a witty manner and yes, indeed showing some of the problems with it. I did indeed laugh, and now I'm going to go play it again.

Also, to the people who claim you have to had played Halo 1 and 2 to "get" Halo 3 or even revioew it, that's just an idiotic assumption. First I have a friend who never played a Halo game in his life really enjoy Halo 3, and further more, wouldn't it be a bit daft for every journalist in the world to play Halo 1 and 2 before reviewing 3? If anything the fact Halo 3 dumps you in at the deep end is probably it's biggest problem. You'll have no idea what's going on if you never played 1 and 2, but you shouldn't have to do that in order for the story to make sense. Halo 3's biggest problem, plot wise, is that it just assumes everyone who has bought it knows it's story, which is a bad thing story and game design wise. I like the Halo universe, in fact I have all 4 books on my shelf (which also contains 1984, the Godfather, Hithikers Guide to the Galaxy, American Gods and other books ranging from "art" [excuse the quotes] to low brow stuff such as a couple of Jeremy Clarksons books), yes even the horrible "The Flood." And while I enjoy it, it doesn't excuse the fact that Halo 3 just plunges people in to it with bugger all backstory for the new players.

And please remember, I like the game. [shameless plug] I'm one of those reviewers who gave it 10/10 on www.gamestyle.net [/shameless plug]

And how do you know all that,Nik? Where'd you get that information? You know it because HE FUCKING TELLS YOU IN THE DAMN REVIEW!!! Do you pay any attention at all to what's going on? He flat out said he has limited experience with the series and is going at it without the fan boy boner for it. He also clearly stated he didn't care about multiplayer. This is an indication that you probably should take his thoughts on it with a grain of salt if you don't already. It also might help to look at the sentence above the video and realize he did this review on short notice.

I mean,if you exclude anyone from reviewing who might have a personal bias,you wouldn't have any reviewers at all simply because noone is completely unbiased. And here's another horrible thought. What if you met this pillar of infailablity and he told you Halo 3 sucked? What then? What if you only think Halo 3 is good simply because you haven't played better games or because it appeals to you personally cause you're biased FOR it? It's one thing to say he has his facts wrong. It's another to say his opinion is wrong.

Then you have Zippy's post. He's played all 3 games and he still considers Halo 3 average. Are you going to say he doesn't have his facts straight? Or do you think you can just grow a pair and realize not everyone likes what you like? If you like Halo 3,enjoy it,for whatever reason. Just don't come in here telling us we're wrong for not agreeing with you.

I'm not saying you're stupid because you disagree and think Halo 3 is awesome. I'm saying you're stupid because you apparently came here expecting glowing praise and didn't get it even though every single review Yahtzee's done has had something bad to say about every game. In all honesty,it sounds like you need validation. You need Mr. Smart Man to tell you that your opinion is justified. And you don't. You don't need Yahztee to say anything. What you need is to decide for yourself what you think of the game.

And if you want to,you can go play any of my favorite games that I've listed for 5 minutes and then come here and tell me how dumb you think they are and we can argue about that.

Merlynn:
I'm not saying you're stupid because you disagree and think Halo 3 is awesome. I'm saying you're stupid because you apparently came here expecting glowing praise and didn't get it even though every single review Yahtzee's done has had something bad to say about every game.

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I'm saying "let's bring it down a notch or two." Thanks.

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Halo3 is fun to play. It doesnt blow me away, but thats cool. Today youre not selling a game best because of its highest quality, but because it fits the lowest common denominator and does all that stuff right. Which is basically all Yahtzees said. What part of "is by no means bad" is so hard to understand?

I just hope the "This game has made me lower my standarts and i hope its proud for that" line was not meant serious :( Please Yahtzee, id really love to see more positive reviews on great games from you.

Actually, besides the usual Mano-a-Mano nerdfights (Newsflash: even if you are 100% correct, telling the other guy right in the face that he is an idiot is not going to convice him) there are alot of intelligent posts in here. Ive enjoyed reading many more healthy opinions of people that dont give their respective parties a bad reputation. Says alot about my expectations, i guess.

Merlynn:
And how do you know all that,Nik? Where'd you get that information? You know it because HE FUCKING TELLS YOU IN THE DAMN REVIEW!!! Do you pay any attention at all to what's going on? He flat out said he has limited experience with the series and is going at it without the fan boy boner for it. He also clearly stated he didn't care about multiplayer. This is an indication that you probably should take his thoughts on it with a grain of salt if you don't already. It also might help to look at the sentence above the video and realize he did this review on short notice.

I mean,if you exclude anyone from reviewing who might have a personal bias,you wouldn't have any reviewers at all simply because noone is completely unbiased. And here's another horrible thought. What if you met this pillar of infailablity and he told you Halo 3 sucked? What then? What if you only think Halo 3 is good simply because you haven't played better games or because it appeals to you personally cause you're biased FOR it? It's one thing to say he has his facts wrong. It's another to say his opinion is wrong.

Then you have Zippy's post. He's played all 3 games and he still considers Halo 3 average. Are you going to say he doesn't have his facts straight? Or do you think you can just grow a pair and realize not everyone likes what you like? If you like Halo 3,enjoy it,for whatever reason. Just don't come in here telling us we're wrong for not agreeing with you.

I'm not saying you're stupid because you disagree and think Halo 3 is awesome. I'm saying you're stupid because you apparently came here expecting glowing praise and didn't get it even though every single review Yahtzee's done has had something bad to say about every game. In all honesty,it sounds like you need validation. You need Mr. Smart Man to tell you that your opinion is justified. And you don't. You don't need Yahztee to say anything. What you need is to decide for yourself what you think of the game.

And if you want to,you can go play any of my favorite games that I've listed for 5 minutes and then come here and tell me how dumb you think they are and we can argue about that.

Wow dude, you really need to take some anger management classes or something. Sorry I've upset you so. Now I'm really out of here before someone has an aneurism.

Just remember guys, there's a whole big wide world out there with real problems going on. Perspective people, perspective....

niktu:
Just remember guys, there's a whole big wide world out there with real problems going on. Perspective people, perspective....

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The "just lighten up" defense is one of my favorites. Banned.

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like halo 2 it feels it s rush job altho not as bad,its a just a shame so many sites are willing to forgive the weak SP campaign when sorry but SP is 60% of the game IMO if it blows no amount of MPing will "fix" the issues with it,either its sold as a solid game or a MP game with a SP training wheel campaign(like Shadow Run), Halo is "billed" as a great SP game that offers great MPing, remove the hype and you have good but short SP and strong MP side so I give it a 6 because the SP side is unfinished/unpolished that and no button mapping and other control options can make it control like a croft in trolly LOL.

I really cant say its "better" than Halo 2.

All in all its not the only FPS that came out this year or last missing polish and detail....

Ok,I'm gonna ask one question then shut up. Is anyone going to answer the "perfect game" question I posed in my first post on this thread? (page 4,second post from the top) I'd like to hear some ideas on that.

That's fine. I really don't care about single player, which is why I think that Bioshock is not worth $60, and has no replay value. If Halo 3 didn't have 4-player online co-op, I probably wouldn't have gone through it.

Also, anyone who doesn't care about multiplayer, has no friends. Being able to play with friends online is by far the best thing that's ever happened to gaming.

Not to say that SOME of his points aren't valid. And even the points that aren't valid, and are solely bawsed on opinion, are presented pretty hilariously. But a game like Halo has so many different aspects to it, and can appeal to so many different people with it's various game types, where as Bioshock, while having an extremely good and compelling campaign mode, is going to be played once, MAYBE twice, and then collect dust.

It's pretty interesting that people believe they've found their knight in shining armor to side with. As if a lemming crowd with pitchforks and boomsticks are raiding the microsoft HQ as one. But if you seriously expected a non negatory review from said attention whore then you are perpetually retarded. Yahtzee has one goal in mind, to please his fans, and he does this best by bashing the popular games that are released. Let's face it, people love to hate, it's in our genetics. Yahtzee is just catering to that sect of individuals and in essence is the only true reviewer that forgoes both sides of the coin: negative and positive aspects of a game. In this case, much like Bioshock, he's only focusing on impossible standards that simply cannot be captured by today's technological states on a console. But let's be frank, people love the console, not necessarily for the games, but for the comfort. Regardless, yahtzee's reviews are merely a one trick pony that come off as more of a joke than a substantial reflective retrospection of a game. Lastly, not to use the obligatory 'he didn't get it' cliche, but well, Yatzee doesn't understand the plot whatsoever, so how can he get excited about Halo 3?
As well, Yahtzee seems to be entrenched in the oft used hype argument. But, hype can only go so far in explaining the popularity of something. Hype can get people lined up to grab a game the day it comes out, hype can put butts in movie theater seats, hype can get people out to buy a CD they've only heard one single off of.
What hype can't do, for the most part, is account for any actual tangible enjoyment that people can experience from one of these forms of entertainment, and the subsequent rave reviews and eventual longevity of popularity that arise from that enjoyment.
In other words, hype can explain why millions of people go out and buy a game... it has a much harder time explaining who so damn many of them love the game after playing it, and eagerly run out to snatch up its sequels and spin-offs, and tell everyone they know about how much they love it.
This is because hype dissapears the moment you sit down to play. The fact that you saw a lot of commercials or read a lot of positive reviews for a game isn't going to mean **** to any but the absolute most brain dead conformist if you don't actually enjoy the game. And while I have an occasionally pretty dim view of the capacity for large groups of people to exercise independent thought, it seems to me that suggesting that the millions of people who enjoy the Halo series have all been "brainwashed" into doing so, especially given the large number of intelligent and rational and otherwise free-thinking Halo fans I have encountered over the years, is so lazy and facile and over simplistic and indicative of an inability to articulate any meaningful argument on the subject that it's barely worth responding to.
Not to mention that when someone casually dismisses Halo's popularity as nothing but hype, the simultaneous implication that they are one of the elite few who can see through Microsoft's juggernaut brainwashing machine is pretty hubristic.

Mr. Positive:
it's barely worth responding to.

Thank heavens for that narrow margin of worth ;)

Here is what my friend said about the review on another forum:

The only valid point he made was the Marine AI.
Let's debunk some off the top of my head:
Bloom: It has errors, they are not frequent, and it is not overpowering unless you take the time to sit there, zooming on on something sitting directly under a light, in which case, you're an idiot.
Difficulty: It's based on environment. He's criticizing the game for having a variety of environments in which you fight. Some are easier to fight in, others are much more difficult.
Single Player vs. Multiplayer: More play multiplayer than those who play only campaign. Statistics are significant here, and he presents none, because such statistics contradict his own point. He's playing on ignorance.
Microsoft: He treats the game as if Microsoft made it. We'll have to excuse the complete idiocy here, as it is apparent he spent no more time caring about the factual information than he did about checking his own logic.
Been done before: No. Few of the new features have been done before, and those which have have not been done significantly better. On top of that, he fails to provide any examples. "Hey, this sucks, but I can't tell you why."
BioShock: He criticized BioShock way more than he criticized Halo 3. How do I stated logical fallacies?

Russ Pitts:

Mr. Positive:
it's barely worth responding to.

Thank heavens for that narrow margin of worth ;)

All that work and this is all you shallow ginger pube twats can muster? Ugh. I want to be flamed like a tranny hooker!

Mr. Positive:

All that work and this is all you shallow ginger pube twats can muster? Ugh. I want to be flamed like a tranny hooker!

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I'm ashamed to be a Halo fan when others (Like Mr.Positive) give us a bad name by acting immature on these forums.(I know Mr.Positive didn't directly say he is a Halo fan, but from the point of view of his original post and bias in that post suggest that he is).

I have played all three Halo games, and after watching Yahtzee's review on Halo 3 I have to agree with him. Compaired to PC FPS's, Halo is just an average game but on the console its somehow viewed as supereb due to the fact that there are few other FPS on the 360 that are relatively good (you could say Gears of War, but its more of a TPS).

These are the funniest vids I've ever seen. I came home from work and showed them all to my wife and we died laughing. Thanks you and please make more :)

Not you best review but still definately worth watching so keep up the good work...
Any chance you are willing to tell us what you had planned on reviewing until escapist asked you to review halo 3?

And to the above poster with the jeremy clarkson books... AWESOME!!!!

In america we don't get Top Gear so hooray for the internet to let me watch the upcoming season of immature grown ups doing the things i wish i could do to cars...

Fun review. If a game is being sold on the SP experience it should be assessed on that alone. The MP experience depends more on the quality of your teammates/opposition than any other factors, so really shouldn't come into it. If it features co-op one could argue that the smoothness/seamlessness of the experience should be adjudged, but again it really stands on how good the SP experience is that is of main importance (if your teammates are fucktards ..generally your screwed).

I've been enjoying Zero Punctuation for a long while and I just thought I'd chime in with my 2 cents before Yatzee gets overwhelmed with negetive feedback (the complainers are always louder then the others)

I'm a total Bioshock fanboy, played all the previous games, following the dev team's work, logs, E3 etc etc.

So Yatzee's review of it stung at first. However in the end I had to agree with almost all points. If you take a similar look at Halo 3 you'll probably find it's the same too.

What I'm trying to say is I trust Yatzee's reviews more then most gaming sites. He's not making special effort not to piss off company A or demographic B or to spin it up so he doesn't bring down the metacritic average. He's just a guy playing games and he calls it like he sees it. (in a hilarious way nonetheless)

Remember a review is actually permitted to be limited in scope, he told people straight that (to parapharase) "I've been told the multiplayer is great, however I don't care about multiplayer" so the review doesn't consider the game as an all encompasing whole, it's just a normal guy's opinion and I value that more then I value someone whose continuing job relies on keeping good ties with said companies so they can continue to land exclusives/preview code/etc.

Everyone seems to be taking this as some sort of massive end-all declaration of the worth of the game. An all encompassing thing that requires graphs and charts with projected fun per hour rates. Bah! Do your friends break those out when they suggest a game to you? No! they just say "Hey, I enjoyed these parts, I didn't enjoy these parts" and honestly those are the best reviews in my opinion

Remember yatzee, for every random guy in here complaining on how techinically the bloom isn't overwhelming on a by average per texture ratio when viewed in resolution X9beta, there's thousands of people who check in every week to get some laughs and then go on their merry way. Stay the course man, your reviews are awesome the way you do it, don't buckle! =)

logpepsam:
Any chance you are willing to tell us what you had planned on reviewing until escapist asked you to review halo 3?

There's an excellent chance you'll find out next week.

Merlynn:
Ok,I'm gonna ask one question then shut up. Is anyone going to answer the "perfect game" question I posed in my first post on this thread? (page 4,second post from the top) I'd like to hear some ideas on that.

Only because you asked so nicely. :D

Simple answer is that the idea of a "perfect game" is ridiculous. The worst people out there are those that create something and are fine with it. See thousands of online comics out there that are complete trash, yet the artist tries to pimp it out like it is amazing. Those that create something, step back and nit pick what they did. At the same time, however, they should be able to recognize the good things.

Maybe I can also put it in this perspective. I play a lot of games, and I can even nitpick many of them. However, I can even enjoy the simple games despite their many flaws (see Stranglehold and Prey). Even the games I'm an absolute fanatic about, such as Gears of War, Halo and Metroid, have glaring flaws. However, a game like Bioshock is probably the closest I've ever come to calling perfect after playing it. Even so, there were many flaws I was able to point out, and so it's obviously not a perfect package. Nonetheless, the sheer level of enjoyment, all of the content put in there, and the game achieving pretty much all of its goals came close.

However, I wouldn't say if you fix those flaws then that's my perfect game. I mean, I do favor shooter games, but...I dunno. A perfect game just sounds boring, because that means nothing else will ever measure up and there's no more room for improvement. Once you have a perfect game, what more is there to look forward to?

Flaws mean that games can still get better, and that's why I'm glad to nitpick.

El Roboto:
Compaired to PC FPS's, Halo is just an average game but on the console its somehow viewed as supereb due to the fact that there are few other FPS on the 360 that are relatively good

Erm, with few exceptions, just about every major and minor FPS is being released both on PC and Xbox 360. If you, in fact, mean past games, well, some of the major ones such as Half-Life 1, Half-Life 2 and Deus Ex are also on console.

Seriously, I see no reason why consoles should be considered inferior in any way to PC's. Maybe for a game such as MechWarrior, given that a control pad just wouldn't be suitable. However, that doesn't mean my console is inferior, as there are plenty of excellent, fantastic games I've played on console that PC gamers haven't. Ever played Final Fantasy Tactics? It's like Square made that game by accident, because it's too good for them. The gameplay is phenomenal and still stands head and shoulders above other tactical JRPG's, the level of character class customization is awesome, creating unique teams from player to player, and the story is on the level with a lot of classic literature and some of the other best stories ever told(again, too good for Square). Yet it's a console game, which is treated as if it's the stupid man's gaming platform.

Are you guys seriously that closed-minded? Or, to risk being offensive, do you seriously need to justify your high costs of computer upgrades that badly in order to keep up with the latest and greatest? I may have missed out on some great PC titles, but at least I got plenty of great console ones plenty of you guys have missed out on as well.

Really, it sounds more like you're bad at gaming than you're reviewing a bad game.

Assuming they don't make him review something else like Metroid then yea i will find out in a week....

But maybe if i ask REALLY NICELY he'll tell me early.... heheh

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